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Re: AP1100 GTO question

Roland Christen
 

You're asking the wrong guy since I don't know what the Paramount pier looks like.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Shailesh Trivedi <strivedi@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 2:10 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP1100 GTO question

Roland,

Following up on the flat surface adapters, I see three options

1. 119FSA - > https://www.astro-physics.com/119fsa
2.119FP  https://www.astro-physics.com/119fp
3. 119FSA-FP https://www.astro-physics.com/119fsa-fp

If I want an option to use my Paramount MX 10 inch permanent pier to mount the AP1100 or a Mach2, which option should I choose?

Shailesh


Re: AP1100 GTO question

Shailesh Trivedi
 

Roland,

Following up on the flat surface adapters, I see three options

1. 119FSA - > https://www.astro-physics.com/119fsa
2.119FP  https://www.astro-physics.com/119fp
3. 119FSA-FP https://www.astro-physics.com/119fsa-fp

If I want an option to use my Paramount MX 10 inch permanent pier to mount the AP1100 or a Mach2, which option should I choose?

Shailesh


Re: AP1100 GTO question

Shailesh Trivedi
 

Thank you Roland, Brian, dvjbaja, Dean.

Shailesh


Re: AP1100 GTO question

Roland Christen
 


1. Can I use Tpoint from Software Bisque to create a pointing model for the AP1100 or do I need to upgrade to APCCPro?
2. Will the Losmandy HD tripod be able to handle the TEC 180FL on the AP1100? (38lbs scope + about 15lb cameras accessories + the mount ofcourse).
3. Is there a way I can mount the AP1100 on a Paramount MX permanent pier via an adapter?
1) yes, you can use T-Point. However you cannot use their Pro-Track feature for unguided imaging. APCC Pro does have this feature and many more.
2) Yes, the HD tripod is very rugged.
3) We have flat surface adapters that can be drilled to fit just about any pier or tripod.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Shailesh Trivedi <strivedi@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [ap-gto] AP1100 GTO question

I recently purchased an AP1100 from a user who got it from AP in the April batch (thanks to Astromart). This comes with the Losmandy HD tripod. I am expecting the mount (+ cws) next week.

I am also about to get a TEC 180FL next week (it has been shipped by Yuri), so I am excited to give the AP1100 a spin.

I am new to AP mounts and this one does not have AE, and comes with APCC (not pro), I have a Paramount MX and associated The SkyX with Tpoint etc.

I have three questions:

1. Can I use Tpoint from Software Bisque to create a pointing model for the AP1100 or do I need to upgrade to APCCPro?
2. Will the Losmandy HD tripod be able to handle the TEC 180FL on the AP1100? (38lbs scope + about 15lb cameras accessories + the mount ofcourse).
3. Is there a way I can mount the AP1100 on a Paramount MX permanent pier via an adapter?

Shailesh


Re: AP1100 GTO question

 

Regarding the question about Tpoint versus APCC, I highly recommend going with APCC. Not only will you get an improved pointing model but you will also get an improved tracking model which is pretty critical in my opinion. We have an AP 1600 with absolute encoders and are doing unguided imaging at nearly 3000 mm focal length and it’s essential

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:04 AM Shailesh Trivedi <strivedi@...> wrote:
I recently purchased an AP1100 from a user who got it from AP in the April batch (thanks to Astromart). This comes with the Losmandy HD tripod. I am expecting the mount (+ cws) next week.

I am also about to get a TEC 180FL next week (it has been shipped by Yuri), so I am excited to give the AP1100 a spin.

I am new to AP mounts and this one does not have AE, and comes with APCC (not pro), I have a Paramount MX and associated The SkyX with Tpoint etc.

I have three questions:

1. Can I use Tpoint from Software Bisque to create a pointing model for the AP1100 or do I need to upgrade to APCCPro?
2. Will the Losmandy HD tripod be able to handle the TEC 180FL on the AP1100? (38lbs scope + about 15lb cameras accessories + the mount ofcourse).
3. Is there a way I can mount the AP1100 on a Paramount MX permanent pier via an adapter?

Shailesh

--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: AP1100 GTO question

Dean Jacobsen
 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 09:03 AM, Shailesh Trivedi wrote:
I have three questions:

1. Can I use Tpoint from Software Bisque to create a pointing model for the AP1100 or do I need to upgrade to APCCPro?
2. Will the Losmandy HD tripod be able to handle the TEC 180FL on the AP1100? (38lbs scope + about 15lb cameras accessories + the mount ofcourse).
Yes, as John has said the Losmandy HD tripod is a nice solid tripod.  I use one. 

3. Is there a way I can mount the AP1100 on a Paramount MX permanent pier via an adapter?
Yes, you will need an Astro-Physics 119FSA - > https://www.astro-physics.com/119fsa

We have a 48" Software Bisque pier with an AP1100 bolted onto it using the 119FSA at our observatory.  You just have to drill down through the top of the SB pier and attach the flat surface adapter with bolts and nuts or drill and tap a threaded hole.
 
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: AP1100 GTO question

dvjbaja
 

My ap 180 f7 rides on my 1100 and losmandy hd tripod no problem.  3, 18lb weights, plus rings, saddle, dovetail plates, finder, diagonal. 20 ethos, no problem.   I like the losmandy hd for the flexibility it offers with my other telescope configurations. 

Jg



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-------- Original message --------
From: Shailesh Trivedi <strivedi@...>
Date: 7/4/20 9:04 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] AP1100 GTO question

I recently purchased an AP1100 from a user who got it from AP in the April batch (thanks to Astromart). This comes with the Losmandy HD tripod. I am expecting the mount (+ cws) next week.

I am also about to get a TEC 180FL next week (it has been shipped by Yuri), so I am excited to give the AP1100 a spin.

I am new to AP mounts and this one does not have AE, and comes with APCC (not pro), I have a Paramount MX and associated The SkyX with Tpoint etc.

I have three questions:

1. Can I use Tpoint from Software Bisque to create a pointing model for the AP1100 or do I need to upgrade to APCCPro?
2. Will the Losmandy HD tripod be able to handle the TEC 180FL on the AP1100? (38lbs scope + about 15lb cameras accessories + the mount ofcourse).
3. Is there a way I can mount the AP1100 on a Paramount MX permanent pier via an adapter?

Shailesh


AP1100 GTO question

Shailesh Trivedi
 

I recently purchased an AP1100 from a user who got it from AP in the April batch (thanks to Astromart). This comes with the Losmandy HD tripod. I am expecting the mount (+ cws) next week.

I am also about to get a TEC 180FL next week (it has been shipped by Yuri), so I am excited to give the AP1100 a spin.

I am new to AP mounts and this one does not have AE, and comes with APCC (not pro), I have a Paramount MX and associated The SkyX with Tpoint etc.

I have three questions:

1. Can I use Tpoint from Software Bisque to create a pointing model for the AP1100 or do I need to upgrade to APCCPro?
2. Will the Losmandy HD tripod be able to handle the TEC 180FL on the AP1100? (38lbs scope + about 15lb cameras accessories + the mount ofcourse).
3. Is there a way I can mount the AP1100 on a Paramount MX permanent pier via an adapter?

Shailesh


Re: #Mach2GTO - Can It Handle TEC 180FL? #Mach2GTO

Roland Christen
 

How much else will you be adding to the scope? guide scope, camera, other peripherals?

Rolando



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From: tranathi via groups.io <tranathi@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jul 4, 2020 2:22 am
Subject: [ap-gto] #Mach2GTO - Can It Handle TEC 180FL?

I know many had suggested that the 1100gto to be the best candidate for the TEC 180FL refractor. However, I have checked AP’s website spec sheet for Mach2GTO mount and it does look like the TEC 180FL is within range - both in weight & dimension. I’m not really a big fan of mount overkill idea nor ready to drop $15k for a mount. So, my question is, can the MACH2GTO handle TEC 180FL at ease without any concern for longterm effect/issue? Per TEC’s website, the 180FL OTA should be very close to 40 pounds.


Re: #Mach2GTO - Can It Handle TEC 180FL? #Mach2GTO

jimmyjujames
 

1314 keystrokes follow
 
In some cases the length is more important than the weight.
 
Example:
 
Need a broomstick or something light, strong and a few feet long
Put a 10 or 20 pound counter weight on a horizontal broomstick so you can slide weigh close to you.
Hold arms out horizontal holding broomstick level with ground and counter weight close to hands.
 
Notice the torque on your shoulders to keep broomstick level with ground.
 
Slide counter weight out a foot from your hands
 
Notice the torque on your shoulders has increased to keep broomstick level with ground.
 
Slide counter weight out another foot from your hands
 
Notice the torque on your shoulders has increased to keep broomstick level with ground.
 
If the weight is too large or the distance from shoulders to weight is too long,
 you will eventually not be able to keep the broomstick and weight level with the ground.
The Torque on your shoulders is too much for your shoulders' muscles.
 
In this example your shoulders are your mounts' worm and worm-wheel.
 
Torque is a static and linear force and zeroed out if balanced.
 
Moment of Inertia (resistance to change in speed or direction) varies with
the distance squared from worm.
 
Length of scope can be more important than the weight of scope.
 
Jimmy
As always I may be wrong again.
 


Lowering an Advanced Telescope Systems (ATS) Portable Telescope Pier

Harley Davidson
 

Hey guys

I lowered my ATS tripod by 4.750". This is how I did it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iJErJox8tw

Have a happy & safe 4th!

tony




#Mach2GTO - Can It Handle TEC 180FL? #Mach2GTO

tranathi@...
 

I know many had suggested that the 1100gto to be the best candidate for the TEC 180FL refractor. However, I have checked AP’s website spec sheet for Mach2GTO mount and it does look like the TEC 180FL is within range - both in weight & dimension. I’m not really a big fan of mount overkill idea nor ready to drop $15k for a mount. So, my question is, can the MACH2GTO handle TEC 180FL at ease without any concern for longterm effect/issue? Per TEC’s website, the 180FL OTA should be very close to 40 pounds.


Re: SatelliteTracker is now SkyTrack

jimmyjujames
 

1811 keystrokes follow
 
I have not tried SkyTrack.
SkyTrack has a 30 day free trial then $9 one time.

https://www.heavenscape.com/index.html

SkyTrack says it has variable speed tracking available with Ascom.
If SkyTrack's Ascom variable speed tracking works with Astro-Physics mounts
 then that sound very promising.
 
Most of my ISS movies were recorded with the original SatelliteTracker v2.51 direct connect with no Ascom.
First movie was hand guided.
 
Recently cleaned mirrors on my home assembled 10'' Newtonian f4.5 and have been slow to reassemble.
 
I select ''LX200 Compatible interface'' in v2.51 to connect to my 900GTO.

The 900GTO has 0 problems tracking through zenith.
 My cheaper mount can't track fast enough, leap-frogs through zenith and
 then a meridian flip at the worst time when the ISS is closest.
 
 With the 900GTO I set the meridian flip point to the western horizon and
 can track SW horizon-zenith-NE horizon with no meridian flip.
 Starting with scope upside down and pointing at SW horizon.
 
 The meridian delay option is why I purchased my 900GTO back in 2011.
 
I know some members want to record the ISS and see those gaps between the solar panels.
I do hope SkyTrack works with Ascom and Astro-Physics mounts.
 
Show us your gaps!
 
Looking forward to seeing more pictures and movies of the ISS with Astro-Physics Scopes.
 
Note:
Most of the night passes are invisible due to ISS in the shadow of Earth before it gets to my backyard.
 
All daylight passes over my backyard are visible and brighter due to EarthShine.
 
If I have good polar alignment and find the ISS in daylight,
 the 900GTO easily keeps the ISS on screen with Joystick in a 17x13 arc-min FOV.
 
Jimmy
33.6N, 88.6W
My ISS movies
http://www.jimmyjujames.com/
Wisdom comes to those who seek it.
 


Re: SatelliteTracker is now SkyTrack

myrussellm
 

Hi Jimmy

Most impressed with your space station shots, really good work. I spent a few years with analysis of high speed tracking cameras in Woomera Australia for missile tracking. In those days a computer was blonde or brunette, yes they were ladies using Comptometers for data reduction.

Current setup is AP1200 with AP178 or AP130 visual work, was thinking to use the APCC as my computer is a Mac. Do have a fairly old windows XP machine and was thinking to try Skytrack before going down the path of APCC Pro.
With your experience do you have comments on this approach.

Kind regards Mike 
Ararat Australia
 


Re: Drift aligning with the nearly-full rig #Mach2GTO #Polar_Alignment

Roland Christen
 

Nice setup!

Rolando



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To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jul 2, 2020 3:18 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Drift aligning with the nearly-full rig #Mach2GTO #Polar_Alignment

With a bright moon and clear skies, I spent the July 1-2 evening drift aligning at a remote Wisconsin state park site to accurately configure the RAPAS with the Mach2. This was the first time I had the C925 and guide scope in the field on the Mach2. My guide scope of choice is actually a 25-year-old Nikon 300mm f/4 ED lens.

Also, I was able to use Sky Safari via WiFi to run the mount in conjunction with TheSky running the Mach2 on a laptop via RS-232. This worked long as I connected to and initialized the mount via RS-232 and APCC first.

While waiting for the hand controller to be shipped, it was a big help for me to have the Sky Safari  app to nudge the drift star back onto the crosshairs by using my iPhone. That green streak of light under the telescope is a firefly trail.

Ernie


Drift aligning with the nearly-full rig #Mach2GTO #Polar_Alignment

ernie.mastroianni@...
 

With a bright moon and clear skies, I spent the July 1-2 evening drift aligning at a remote Wisconsin state park site to accurately configure the RAPAS with the Mach2. This was the first time I had the C925 and guide scope in the field on the Mach2. My guide scope of choice is actually a 25-year-old Nikon 300mm f/4 ED lens.

Also, I was able to use Sky Safari via WiFi to run the mount in conjunction with TheSky running the Mach2 on a laptop via RS-232. This worked long as I connected to and initialized the mount via RS-232 and APCC first.

While waiting for the hand controller to be shipped, it was a big help for me to have the Sky Safari  app to nudge the drift star back onto the crosshairs by using my iPhone. That green streak of light under the telescope is a firefly trail.

Ernie


Re: APCC PRO upgrade from Standard

Keith Olsen
 

Excellent.  Thank you Joe!  :)  

Keith


Re: APCC PRO upgrade from Standard

Joseph Beyer
 

Keith,

When I upgraded earlier this year all my settings from APCC standard were carried over to the Pro version.  Installation was straight forward.

Joe

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:08 AM Keith <keitholsen@...> wrote:
I don't know where else to ask this question so I came here.

Is the APCC Pro upgrade a new seperate application or does it overlay the Standard version and keep the settings from the Standard Version?

Thanks,

Keith


Re: How to remove MACH1 (spring loaded) gearbox. Instructions show two lock down screws on the back of the box. My 2.5 year old mach1 does not have those 2 screws.How do I remove it to inspect the worm?

fd@...
 

I bought a new Mach1GTO in October 2017.  SN 10971. It has 2 screws in each motor box.

See the third photo in this set on IMGUR.  Also see my comment on IMGUR about needing a lot of torque to loosen those screws.

--
Mach1GTO and GTOCP4 on permanent pier


APCC PRO upgrade from Standard

Keith Olsen
 

I don't know where else to ask this question so I came here.

Is the APCC Pro upgrade a new seperate application or does it overlay the Standard version and keep the settings from the Standard Version?

Thanks,

Keith

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