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Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

It's going to have to be another evening... I've been up since 5am and need to get up again tomorrow early.

Post a screen shot of the model window you just opened to reload the PNT file (the one with the scatter chart). I'll look for it in the morning.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of jypeng@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Hi Ray,
I reloaded the pnt file and still saw those big numbers. Please login the teamview to see this issue.
id : 1 925 328 252 password : 373dau
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

jypeng@...
 

Hi Ray,
I reloaded the pnt file and still saw those big numbers. Please login the teamview to see this issue.
id :  1 925 328 252    password : 373dau
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

Jian,

Click the "Model" button on the Pointing model tab. In the pointing model window that opens you can load a pointing model from the File menu.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:41 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Hi Ray,
I saw it. Can you show me how to load the PNT file to APCC pro model?
I checked the manual, and couldn't find how to?

Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

jypeng@...
 

Hi Ray,
I saw it. Can you show me how to load the PNT file to APCC pro model?
I checked the manual, and couldn't find how to?

Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng


Re: Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

 

>>> .can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??


i thought AP mount + AE + unguided + good pointing model = APCC



On Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 10:11 PM Steven Steven <steven447@...> wrote:
Hey Tony,

If you want to go unguided, try ATrack, get in touch with Craig Young on this forum for details. It works a treat! Doesn't use a guidescope or guider, easy as pie and VERY accurate!

Steve


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2020 12:18 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?
 
Hi,

I've been putting together my imaging train for my C11 and have hit a snag. The QHYOAG will be hitting the back of the LiteCrawler using the backfocus of the 146mm. I can't see anyway around this except for:

  • a guidescope (flexure issue;
  • a new camera with minimal backfocus (the ML16200 I'm using eats up 21mm - maybe the ASI6200??); or
  • go unguided.
So far, going unguided seems to be the most reasonable solution. Question is...at 2800mm and with AE's...can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

Steven
 

HI Tony,

Get Craig on:

craig.young.m8@...

and send me a private email and I'll send you the User Guide, or Craig would likely gladly send it. A very helpful guy.

KR

Steve


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2020 1:19 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?
 

Hi,

 

Can’t find anything online about it. Do you have a link?

 

Tony

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steven Steven
Sent: June 11, 2020 10:11 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

 

Hey Tony,

 

If you want to go unguided, try ATrack, get in touch with Craig Young on this forum for details. It works a treat! Doesn't use a guidescope or guider, easy as pie and VERY accurate!

 

Steve

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2020 12:18 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

 

Hi,

I've been putting together my imaging train for my C11 and have hit a snag. The QHYOAG will be hitting the back of the LiteCrawler using the backfocus of the 146mm. I can't see anyway around this except for:

  • a guidescope (flexure issue;
  • a new camera with minimal backfocus (the ML16200 I'm using eats up 21mm - maybe the ASI6200??); or
  • go unguided.

So far, going unguided seems to be the most reasonable solution. Question is...at 2800mm and with AE's...can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??


Re: Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

Roland Christen
 


can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??
As long as your mirror doesn't flop, I believe 10 minutes will work ok. If you have any random flexure in the optical train, it may not work.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 11, 2020 11:18 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

Hi,

I've been putting together my imaging train for my C11 and have hit a snag. The QHYOAG will be hitting the back of the LiteCrawler using the backfocus of the 146mm. I can't see anyway around this except for:

  • a guidescope (flexure issue;
  • a new camera with minimal backfocus (the ML16200 I'm using eats up 21mm - maybe the ASI6200??); or
  • go unguided.
So far, going unguided seems to be the most reasonable solution. Question is...at 2800mm and with AE's...can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??


Re: Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 

Hi,

 

Can’t find anything online about it. Do you have a link?

 

Tony

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steven Steven
Sent: June 11, 2020 10:11 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

 

Hey Tony,

 

If you want to go unguided, try ATrack, get in touch with Craig Young on this forum for details. It works a treat! Doesn't use a guidescope or guider, easy as pie and VERY accurate!

 

Steve

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2020 12:18 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

 

Hi,

I've been putting together my imaging train for my C11 and have hit a snag. The QHYOAG will be hitting the back of the LiteCrawler using the backfocus of the 146mm. I can't see anyway around this except for:

  • a guidescope (flexure issue;
  • a new camera with minimal backfocus (the ML16200 I'm using eats up 21mm - maybe the ASI6200??); or
  • go unguided.

So far, going unguided seems to be the most reasonable solution. Question is...at 2800mm and with AE's...can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??


Re: Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

Steven
 

Hey Tony,

If you want to go unguided, try ATrack, get in touch with Craig Young on this forum for details. It works a treat! Doesn't use a guidescope or guider, easy as pie and VERY accurate!

Steve


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
Sent: Friday, 12 June 2020 12:18 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?
 
Hi,

I've been putting together my imaging train for my C11 and have hit a snag. The QHYOAG will be hitting the back of the LiteCrawler using the backfocus of the 146mm. I can't see anyway around this except for:

  • a guidescope (flexure issue;
  • a new camera with minimal backfocus (the ML16200 I'm using eats up 21mm - maybe the ASI6200??); or
  • go unguided.
So far, going unguided seems to be the most reasonable solution. Question is...at 2800mm and with AE's...can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

Jian,

 

There are huge numbers in the boxes on your screen shot. Your PNT file looks bad.

 

As I said, attach the PNT file in case it is different than what's in your zip file. When I load your PNT file from the zip you provided I don't see those crazy values. Here's what I see with the same file.

 

 

-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

 

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of jypeng@...

> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 9:49 PM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

>

> Hi Ray,

> It is very easy to recreate the lockup problem.

> 1. Start APCC pro, connect to Mount, connect to ASCOM

> 2. Use AP V2 driver to slew the telescope.

> 3. I can see the APCC pro locked up after a minute. Mount slew back to Park 3.

> See the attached image after I tried to slew to NE.

> I can setup teamview for you to look at my setup. It is cloudy now.

> Thanks,

> Jian Yuan Peng

>


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

jypeng@...
 

Hi Ray,
It is very easy to recreate the lockup problem.
1. Start APCC pro, connect to Mount, connect to ASCOM
2. Use AP V2 driver to slew the telescope.
3. I can see the APCC pro locked up after a minute. Mount slew back to Park 3.
See the attached image after I tried to slew to NE.
I can setup teamview for you to look at my setup. It is cloudy now. 
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng


Going Unguided With a Long FL Scope?

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 

Hi,

I've been putting together my imaging train for my C11 and have hit a snag. The QHYOAG will be hitting the back of the LiteCrawler using the backfocus of the 146mm. I can't see anyway around this except for:

  • a guidescope (flexure issue;
  • a new camera with minimal backfocus (the ML16200 I'm using eats up 21mm - maybe the ASI6200??); or
  • go unguided.
So far, going unguided seems to be the most reasonable solution. Question is...at 2800mm and with AE's...can I expect to go 10 min or longer unguided with AE's and a good pointing model??


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

Jian,

There were two PNT files in your zip file. The first has only 2 points, but the other has 30 points, and loads fine in APCC.

I slewed around parked, unparked, but I could not get APCC to lockup.

Usually when someone thinks APCC has "locked up" there is actually a message box window behind another window that is waiting for you to click it.

I suggest you turn off the "Keep window on top" options on APCC, the driver, APPM, etc. This will enable those pop-up windows to be seen.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of jypeng@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:15 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Hi Ray,
I had successfully run two small-map twice when I unchecked "Precess J2000 to JNow", and consistently
failed (only first two points solved) when it was checked.
It seems to me that this option makes a big difference for my setup. The help file stated
"When plate solving catalogues typically use J2000.0 coordinates. If this option is checked (recommended)
then APPM will precess plat-solved coordinates to JNow(the current epoch). APPC can handle J2000.0 and
JNow coordinates so enabling this option is optional. However, when enabled it might be easier to analyze
pointingndata in a third party program, like Excel."
If my understanding correctly, when this option checked, then APPM sends JNow coordinates to PlateSolve
app. If unchecked, then APPM sends J2000 to the PlateSolve app.
I was able to run twice with the unchecked option.
Anyway, I don't care about running with the checked option and failed to plate solved the points after the third
point.
The most important object is that I don't want APCC pro hanging (which you didn't answer for me yet) when I
enable the point model with the data corrected from APPM with the unchecked option. The APCC application
stops working when I enable the Pointing/Tracking Correction. I can't close the APCC Pro window at all.

The summary: (Please comment)
1. Users can run APPM with uncheck "Precess J2000 to JNow" option to generate the pointing model for
APCC. Pro. Right?
2. APCC Pro should be run without any issues with the model generated with unchecking "Precess J2000 to
JNow" option when enabling Tracking/Pointing Correction. Right?
If the abovementioned two statements are accurate, Could you please help me to find out why APCC Pro app
is hanging on my system when I enable the pointing model?
So, we don't spend time on plate solving. I have a model loaded in the point model and I want to use it.
Let me know whether I need to upload more log files for you.
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng



On/ Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 06:00 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:


Did you find out why APPM could plate solve all of the points when I unchecked "Precess J2000
to JNow"?

I forgot to answer this. Probably what happened is that you finally got a good plate solve, thus the
others solved.

The previous solves failed because of one bad solve which skewed the coordinates. That was not
APPM's fault. APPM only reports what the plate solve reports back to it.


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

Jiang,

Can you attach the PNT file that hangs APCC to a message here? It should be easy to figure out if I have that file.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of jypeng@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:15 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Hi Ray,
I had successfully run two small-map twice when I unchecked "Precess J2000 to JNow", and consistently
failed (only first two points solved) when it was checked.
It seems to me that this option makes a big difference for my setup. The help file stated
"When plate solving catalogues typically use J2000.0 coordinates. If this option is checked (recommended)
then APPM will precess plat-solved coordinates to JNow(the current epoch). APPC can handle J2000.0 and
JNow coordinates so enabling this option is optional. However, when enabled it might be easier to analyze
pointingndata in a third party program, like Excel."
If my understanding correctly, when this option checked, then APPM sends JNow coordinates to PlateSolve
app. If unchecked, then APPM sends J2000 to the PlateSolve app.
I was able to run twice with the unchecked option.
Anyway, I don't care about running with the checked option and failed to plate solved the points after the third
point.
The most important object is that I don't want APCC pro hanging (which you didn't answer for me yet) when I
enable the point model with the data corrected from APPM with the unchecked option. The APCC application
stops working when I enable the Pointing/Tracking Correction. I can't close the APCC Pro window at all.

The summary: (Please comment)
1. Users can run APPM with uncheck "Precess J2000 to JNow" option to generate the pointing model for
APCC. Pro. Right?
2. APCC Pro should be run without any issues with the model generated with unchecking "Precess J2000 to
JNow" option when enabling Tracking/Pointing Correction. Right?
If the abovementioned two statements are accurate, Could you please help me to find out why APCC Pro app
is hanging on my system when I enable the pointing model?
So, we don't spend time on plate solving. I have a model loaded in the point model and I want to use it.
Let me know whether I need to upload more log files for you.
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng



On/ Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 06:00 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:


Did you find out why APPM could plate solve all of the points when I unchecked "Precess J2000
to JNow"?

I forgot to answer this. Probably what happened is that you finally got a good plate solve, thus the
others solved.

The previous solves failed because of one bad solve which skewed the coordinates. That was not
APPM's fault. APPM only reports what the plate solve reports back to it.


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Dean Jacobsen
 


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

Jiang,

Since I posted last have you followed any on my settings?

If my understanding correctly, when this option checked, then APPM sends JNow coordinates to PlateSolve
app. If unchecked, then APPM sends J2000 to the PlateSolve app.
Incorrect. The setting simply shows what plate solve coordinates will be stored in the PNT file. Here's what the help says:

Precess J2000 to JNow: When checked the plate-solved coordinates are converted to JNow when stored in the log file, which might be useful for debugging purposes.

The most important object is that I don't want APCC pro hanging (which you didn't answer for me yet) when I
enable the point model with the data corrected from APPM with the unchecked option. The APCC application
stops working when I enable the Pointing/Tracking Correction. I can't close the APCC Pro window at all.
I don't know why that would happen. I will look into it but I don't have an answer for you now.

But you really want that option enabled for highest accuracy. The historical calculation of precession may not be as accurate as saving the precessed J2000 coordinates that returned are from the plate solves.

I have used wider field (Traveler 105mm/F6 and 130GTX) refractors as well as longer focal length (180EDT F9) refractors on my 1100AE and 1200 mounts. I don't have the plate solve problems you had. However, I think if you follow the settings guidelines I suggested I think you won't have problems.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of jypeng@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 7:15 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Hi Ray,
I had successfully run two small-map twice when I unchecked "Precess J2000 to JNow", and consistently
failed (only first two points solved) when it was checked.
It seems to me that this option makes a big difference for my setup. The help file stated
"When plate solving catalogues typically use J2000.0 coordinates. If this option is checked (recommended)
then APPM will precess plat-solved coordinates to JNow(the current epoch). APPC can handle J2000.0 and
JNow coordinates so enabling this option is optional. However, when enabled it might be easier to analyze
pointingndata in a third party program, like Excel."
If my understanding correctly, when this option checked, then APPM sends JNow coordinates to PlateSolve
app. If unchecked, then APPM sends J2000 to the PlateSolve app.
I was able to run twice with the unchecked option.
Anyway, I don't care about running with the checked option and failed to plate solved the points after the third
point.
The most important object is that I don't want APCC pro hanging (which you didn't answer for me yet) when I
enable the point model with the data corrected from APPM with the unchecked option. The APCC application
stops working when I enable the Pointing/Tracking Correction. I can't close the APCC Pro window at all.

The summary: (Please comment)
1. Users can run APPM with uncheck "Precess J2000 to JNow" option to generate the pointing model for
APCC. Pro. Right?
2. APCC Pro should be run without any issues with the model generated with unchecking "Precess J2000 to
JNow" option when enabling Tracking/Pointing Correction. Right?
If the abovementioned two statements are accurate, Could you please help me to find out why APCC Pro app
is hanging on my system when I enable the pointing model?
So, we don't spend time on plate solving. I have a model loaded in the point model and I want to use it.
Let me know whether I need to upload more log files for you.
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng



On/ Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 06:00 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:


Did you find out why APPM could plate solve all of the points when I unchecked "Precess J2000
to JNow"?

I forgot to answer this. Probably what happened is that you finally got a good plate solve, thus the
others solved.

The previous solves failed because of one bad solve which skewed the coordinates. That was not
APPM's fault. APPM only reports what the plate solve reports back to it.


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

jypeng@...
 

Hi Ray,
I had successfully run two small-map twice when I unchecked  "Precess J2000 to JNow", and consistently failed (only first two points solved) when it was checked.
It seems to me that this option makes a big difference for my setup. The help file stated 
"When plate solving catalogues typically use J2000.0 coordinates. If this option is checked (recommended) then APPM will precess plat-solved coordinates to JNow(the current epoch). APPC can handle J2000.0 and JNow coordinates so enabling this option is optional. However, when enabled it might be easier to analyze pointingndata in a third party program, like Excel."
If my understanding correctly, when this option checked, then APPM sends JNow coordinates to PlateSolve app. If unchecked, then APPM sends J2000 to the PlateSolve app.
I was able to run twice with the unchecked option.
Anyway, I don't care about running with the checked option and failed to plate solved the points after the third point.
The most important object is that I don't want APCC pro hanging (which you didn't answer for me yet) when I enable the point model with the data corrected from APPM with the unchecked option. The APCC application stops working when I enable the Pointing/Tracking Correction. I can't close the APCC Pro window at all.

The summary: (Please comment)
1. Users can run APPM with uncheck "Precess J2000 to JNow" option to generate the pointing model for APCC. Pro. Right?
2. APCC Pro should be run without any issues with the model generated with unchecking "Precess J2000 to JNow" option when enabling Tracking/Pointing Correction. Right?
If the abovementioned two statements are accurate, Could you please help me to find out why APCC Pro app is hanging on my system when I enable the pointing model?
So, we don't spend time on plate solving. I have a model loaded in the point model and I want to use it.
Let me know whether I need to upload more log files for you.
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng



On/ Thu, Jun 11, 2020 at 06:00 PM, Ray Gralak wrote:

Did you find out why APPM could plate solve all of the points when I unchecked "Precess J2000 to JNow"?
I forgot to answer this. Probably what happened is that you finally got a good plate solve, thus the others solved.

The previous solves failed because of one bad solve which skewed the coordinates. That was not APPM's fault. APPM only reports what the plate solve reports back to it.


Re: Mach1 Grease kit were? is it hiding on the site?

Roland Christen
 

Hi Ron,

A. Call the office for a grease kit. It is not on the website.

B. Your Mach1 has the latest gearbox, which is not the instructions that are posted on our website for gearbox removal. below are some pictures to help you remove the gearbox.
1 - back the worm off via the lever on the side of the gearbox. Make sure you have the scope in park3 so it does not swing wild when you back the worm off.
2 - remove the 4 screws holding the back cover on
3 - down inside the gearbox under the two holes as shown, there are 2 Allen Head screws. They are captive. You loosen them completely and then you can lift the gearbox off the mount.
4 - the worm can then be cleaned. You can even plug it back into your CP3 and turn it at slewing speeds with the E-W buttons.








Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

Did you find out why APPM could plate solve all of the points when I unchecked "Precess J2000 to JNow"?
I forgot to answer this. Probably what happened is that you finally got a good plate solve, thus the others solved.

The previous solves failed because of one bad solve which skewed the coordinates. That was not APPM's fault. APPM only reports what the plate solve reports back to it.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:30 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Jian,

Polar Alignment is very good done with SharpCap and PHD2 Drift alignment. I used AP ASCOM driver for
Okay, make sure you follow the setup directions in APCC's help file. SGPro has two different sets of plate
solve parameters. One for internal SGPro use, and one for external applications. If you didn't set up for
external plate solving then you are probably just getting bad solves as demonstrated with an error of 825 arc-
minutes..

The plate solve on SGPro is OK, but failed at APPM.
Which means you probably setup external plate solving.

Please also follow the suggestions I gave on your next try. :-)

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Hi Ray,
Polar Alignment is very good done with SharpCap and PHD2 Drift alignment. I used AP ASCOM driver for
imaging before I went to sleep in the past 2 nights and got PHD2 RMS total about 0.5 or less. The pointing
with AP ASCOM driver only is dead on every time which target was always on the chip.
My telescope is TEC 160FL with 0.9 FRC. See my APPM setting in the attached image,
Did you find out why APPM could plate solve all of the points when I unchecked "Precess J2000 to JNow"?
Can you see the image 1 in my previous message? The plate solve on SGPro is OK, but failed at APPM.
It seems to me that the fourth point in the attached image 1, The coordinates between Run windows,
PlateSolve 2.29, and SGPro Plate Solve were not matched at all (don't make sense for me). For example, I
saw the fourth point plate solve failed, then I stopped the APPM run, and went to SGPro and right-click the
image to plate solve. The RA/DEC Hints were matched on Run table, but not on the PlateSolve 2.29's
Staring
RA/Dec.
Any idea?
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng


Re: APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Ray Gralak
 

Jian,

Polar Alignment is very good done with SharpCap and PHD2 Drift alignment. I used AP ASCOM driver for
Okay, make sure you follow the setup directions in APCC's help file. SGPro has two different sets of plate solve parameters. One for internal SGPro use, and one for external applications. If you didn't set up for external plate solving then you are probably just getting bad solves as demonstrated with an error of 825 arc-minutes..

The plate solve on SGPro is OK, but failed at APPM.
Which means you probably setup external plate solving.

Please also follow the suggestions I gave on your next try. :-)

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


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Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:07 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM plate solve failure and then APCC stopping working

Hi Ray,
Polar Alignment is very good done with SharpCap and PHD2 Drift alignment. I used AP ASCOM driver for
imaging before I went to sleep in the past 2 nights and got PHD2 RMS total about 0.5 or less. The pointing
with AP ASCOM driver only is dead on every time which target was always on the chip.
My telescope is TEC 160FL with 0.9 FRC. See my APPM setting in the attached image,
Did you find out why APPM could plate solve all of the points when I unchecked "Precess J2000 to JNow"?
Can you see the image 1 in my previous message? The plate solve on SGPro is OK, but failed at APPM.
It seems to me that the fourth point in the attached image 1, The coordinates between Run windows,
PlateSolve 2.29, and SGPro Plate Solve were not matched at all (don't make sense for me). For example, I
saw the fourth point plate solve failed, then I stopped the APPM run, and went to SGPro and right-click the
image to plate solve. The RA/DEC Hints were matched on Run table, but not on the PlateSolve 2.29's Staring
RA/Dec.
Any idea?
Thanks,
Jian Yuan Peng

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