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Re: APCC Standard v1.8.2.0 and APCC Pro v1.8.2.1

Worsel
 

Ray

There are several of us that have made the same observation in this thread about the lack of notification.  That reduces the likelihood of MS or AV being the cause.  What info can we provide to help suss this out?

One common factor may be APPC Pro versus Standard, which strikes me as odd, since they likely use the same mechanism.

P.S.  What is your process for getting feedback, if the users do not know about the new build?

Bryan


Re: Dumb question about APPM

Dean Jacobsen
 

Aha!  Very cool.  I will definitely give it a trial run in the garage.  Thanks Ray.
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Re: Dumb question about APPM

Ray Gralak
 

Dean,

A few more tips:

* If you want to see the order of the plate solves, enable the "Show Order" checkbox. You can animate the point order by clicking the "animate" button. This is just purely a visual display. You don't need to be connected to the mount or a camera.

* If you want to do a daytime test of APPM connected to the mount, on APPM's "Run" tab enable the "Skip Plate Solves (for Testing)" check box.

* If you want to test plate solves in the daytime, select "NASA SkyView (Internet)" for the camera type. APPM will pull an image from the Nasa SkyView website at the mount's current RA/Dec and with the correct image scale, which can be configured on the Plate Solve Settings tab. Of course then make sure to uncheck the option to skip plate solves! :-)

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Jacobsen
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 9:15 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb question about APPM

Thanks for the pointers Ray. I will definitely use the horizon limits feature.
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Re: APCC Standard v1.8.2.0 and APCC Pro v1.8.2.1

Ray Gralak
 

Perhaps there is another mechanism to check for updates within APCC that doesn't use any .net protocols. For
example, from my experience, PEMPro always alerts me when there are available updates.
PEMPro and APCC use exactly the same mechanism which leads me to believe, at least in your case, either Windows firewall or your AV program is blocking APCC.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 8:33 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Standard v1.8.2.0 and APCC Pro v1.8.2.1

Hi Ray,
Perhaps there is another mechanism to check for updates within APCC that doesn't use any .net protocols. For
example, from my experience, PEMPro always alerts me when there are available updates.

cytan

On Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:28:51 PM CDT, Jerome Allison <jallison@...> wrote:


Hi Ray,

I'm glad you're still updating APCC, but I wish you would announce the new versions here or anywhere.

From another user's problem, I happened to find out today that there is a new 1.8.3.1 version.

Along with others, my install of APCC never alerts to a new version. All I ever get is:

"You are running this version of APCC: 1.8.2.1" (whatever version it might be)
"The latest version of APCC is:"
(BLANK LINE)
"OK" button

I hope you will try to inform those of us in this situation.

Jerome


Re: APCC Standard v1.8.2.0 and APCC Pro v1.8.2.1

Ray Gralak
 

I'm glad you're still updating APCC, but I wish you would announce the new versions here or anywhere.
I won't always announce every build immediately. It depends on the criticality of the build and if I would like to get feedback first before announcing it. I may even skip announcing a version if it looks like another needs to be released soon.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerome Allison
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 8:29 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC Standard v1.8.2.0 and APCC Pro v1.8.2.1

Hi Ray,

I'm glad you're still updating APCC, but I wish you would announce the new versions here or anywhere.

From another user's problem, I happened to find out today that there is a new 1.8.3.1 version.

Along with others, my install of APCC never alerts to a new version. All I ever get is:

"You are running this version of APCC: 1.8.2.1" (whatever version it might be)
"The latest version of APCC is:"
(BLANK LINE)
"OK" button

I hope you will try to inform those of us in this situation.

Jerome


Re: Dumb question about APPM

Dean Jacobsen
 

Thanks for the pointers Ray.   I will definitely use the horizon limits feature.
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Re: Dumb question about APPM

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Dean,

 

> So, for the purpose of collecting measurement points, is there any need to set the Min. Altitude to anything less than

> 45 degrees or maybe 40 degrees?

 

No, there isn't.

 

> With the Min. Altitude selector set to 40 degrees, the medium map default points are significantly less than with the

> selector off [57 vs. 155].

 

You can increase the density of either RA or Dec points by changing the "Declination Spacing" and "Right Ascension Spacing" sliders. You can create quite dense models very easily by decreasing the spacing of either of these.

> The only exception to my usual practice is where I am imaging high in the north where I may start objects 1/2 hour

> earlier than 45 degrees altitude.

 

If you create Horizon limits in APCC, APPM can use them if you enabled the "Use APPCC Horizon Limits".

 

Below is a screen shot with these items highlighted. Notice in the map that I have elected to use my Horizon limits so APPM requires both the Min Altitude (31 degrees in this case), and the horizon limits to define points.

 

 

-Ray Gralak

Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro

Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com

Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Jacobsen

> Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 8:13 AM

> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io

> Subject: [ap-gto] Dumb question about APPM

>

> I'm reading the APCC/APPM manual and setting up the software for a trip out to the observatory next week where I

> will try to get pointing and tracking correction enabled on the Mach2 for the first time.

>

> I was wondering about settings in the measurement points tab of APPM...

>

> Because of light pollution domes to the east and the west, I only start imaging when my object is at least 45 degrees

> high in the eastern sky and I never follow the object below 45 degrees altitude in the western sky.

>

> So, for the purpose of collecting measurement points, is there any need to set the Min. Altitude to anything less than

> 45 degrees or maybe 40 degrees?

>

> With the Min. Altitude selector set to 40 degrees, the medium map default points are significantly less than with the

> selector off [57 vs. 155].

>

> The only exception to my usual practice is where I am imaging high in the north where I may start objects 1/2 hour

> earlier than 45 degrees altitude.

> --

> Dean Jacobsen

> http://astrophoto.net/wp/  <http://astrophoto.net/wp/>

> Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/

> Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/  <https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/>


Re: NGC5371 and surrounding galaxies

Sébastien Doré
 

Focal length has nothing to do with how long to do unguided. Unguided depends on how well your model is made and how much drift you are willing to accept in your image. 

Rolando, I'm not sure I'm getting this right. I'm probably missing something about the modeling part here... Please enlighten me.

I thought the "amount of drift I'm willing to accept" was the amount of recorded signal (pixels) that is "offset" in the frame due to the mount's (in)ability to accurately track an object,(isn't it why we usually guide ?) which is also related to the image scale, which in turn relates to the focal length of the telescope...

So I'm not sure how two scopes with different focal lengths would lead to the same amount of drift in an unguided sub of the same exposure time (all other parameters being equal). Seems to me that the more focal length, the more drift (pixel offsets over time) I get, wether it's caused by PE (which I understand is not an issue with AE) or bad PA.

Sorry if my question seems silly, I'm a kind of "advanced newbie in astrophotography" as I like to call myself... 😉


Regards,

Sebastien


Dumb question about APPM

Dean Jacobsen
 

I'm reading the APCC/APPM manual and setting up the software for a trip out to the observatory next week where I will try to get pointing and tracking correction enabled on the Mach2 for the first time.

I was wondering about settings in the measurement points tab of APPM...

Because of light pollution domes to the east and the west, I only start imaging when my object is at least 45 degrees high in the eastern sky and I never follow the object below 45 degrees altitude in the western sky.

So, for the purpose of collecting measurement points, is there any need to set the Min. Altitude to anything less than 45 degrees or maybe 40 degrees?

With the Min. Altitude selector set to 40 degrees, the medium map default points are significantly less than with the selector off [57 vs. 155].

The only exception to my usual practice is where I am imaging high in the north where I may start objects 1/2 hour earlier than 45 degrees altitude.
--
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http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: APCC Pro Documentation

 

You can use this link to get it:

http://www.apastrosoftware.com/apcc_download/APCC_Pro_Setup_1.8.3.1.exe

I had to take a guess at it, but the similarity to the 1.8.2.1 version address worked.

Jerome


Re: APCC Standard v1.8.2.0 and APCC Pro v1.8.2.1

Cheng-Yang Tan
 

Hi Ray,
   Perhaps there is another mechanism to check for updates within APCC that doesn't use any .net protocols. For example, from my experience, PEMPro always alerts me when there are available updates.

cytan

On Friday, June 5, 2020, 10:28:51 PM CDT, Jerome Allison <jallison@...> wrote:


Hi Ray,

I'm glad you're still updating APCC, but I wish you would announce the new versions here or anywhere. 

From another user's problem, I happened to find out today that there is a new 1.8.3.1 version.  

Along with others, my install of APCC never alerts to a new version.  All I ever get is:

"You are running this version of APCC: 1.8.2.1"    (whatever version it might be)
           "The latest version of APCC is:"
                       (BLANK LINE)
                         "OK" button

I hope you will try to inform those of us in this situation.

Jerome


Re: APCC Standard v1.8.2.0 and APCC Pro v1.8.2.1

 

Hi Ray,

I'm glad you're still updating APCC, but I wish you would announce the new versions here or anywhere. 

From another user's problem, I happened to find out today that there is a new 1.8.3.1 version.  

Along with others, my install of APCC never alerts to a new version.  All I ever get is:

"You are running this version of APCC: 1.8.2.1"    (whatever version it might be)
           "The latest version of APCC is:"
                       (BLANK LINE)
                         "OK" button

I hope you will try to inform those of us in this situation.

Jerome


Re: Mount is "lost"

Michael Hamburg
 

Thanks to all who replied with their experiences. Weather permitting, I will give PHD2's drift align function to get PA.
Michael 


Re: Mount is "lost"

Leszek
 

The nice part about AP900 and Mach2 is the fact that you can order the polemaster with the AP adaper that allows you to screw it in directly into the mount (picture from AP web site)


APCC Pro Documentation

M Hambrick
 

I downloaded the latest version of APCC Pro (1.8.2.1) from the web site along with the help file, but I see several posts on the forum refering to version 1.8.3.1. Will the newer version be made available from the web site soon ?


Re: Mount is "lost"

Peter Nagy
 

I also use Sharp Cap Pro with PoleMaster. The software just could not be any easier!!!!!

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/PoleMaster-on-A-P1100GTO/

My mount is the first run of A-P1100GTO. The two placeholder bolts were part of the motor gear box. Newer mounts do not have placeholder bolts anymore.

Peter


Re: Mount is "lost"

 

I'm already not going back to the polemaster app!

the main problem i found with polemaster is that it's just not that accurate. around 30 arcsec but with my main camera/ota and sharpcap i can usually get 5-10arcsec

On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 12:47 PM Leszek <leszek@...> wrote:
A word of caution though.  Once you try sharpcap with polemaster you will never go back to the QHY polemaster app. :)  I only use the polemaster app on my android phone if I'm in a remote location without my computer.



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: NGC5371 and surrounding galaxies

J. Belden
 

Exactly what I expected.  Like the difference between a real Rolex watch vs a knockoff, you can see the micro stepping if you look close enough.

Joe


Re: Mount is "lost"

Bill Long
 

I have only used SharpCap Pro via my main imaging camera, but it does work exceptionally well. Here is a snip of the model properties from APCC on the last model I built using the 1100AE with nothing more than SharpCap Pro alignment. 




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Leszek <leszek@...>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:47 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount is "lost"
 
A word of caution though.  Once you try sharpcap with polemaster you will never go back to the QHY polemaster app. :)  I only use the polemaster app on my android phone if I'm in a remote location without my computer.


Re: Mount is "lost"

Leszek
 

A word of caution though.  Once you try sharpcap with polemaster you will never go back to the QHY polemaster app. :)  I only use the polemaster app on my android phone if I'm in a remote location without my computer.

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