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Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

Mike Shade
 

Good to see feedback.  Not sure what your mount/imaging system is but a good test might be to see what the mount does unguided for a worm cycle...with PEC on and PEC off (you have a good PEC curve right?).  My 1600 it is a 382" period.  Asking a mount to go unguided for 20 minutes (1200 seconds), unless you have a very low resolution system is asking a lot and you will likely get some RA drift, or other errors (mirror flop, component sag, dragging cables, and optical aberrations caused by seeing variations to name a few) and this is not unexpected.  See what it does for a worm cycle.

 

Mike J. Shade

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2020 4:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Bad images _Bouncing stars

 

This is a follow up to my "Bouncing Stars" post. I imaged the next night (with and without guiding) for 1200 sec exposures. The images were fine (round stars) no zig-zag patterns or elongated stars. I did notice a slight oblong effect in the unguided image. Looking at  PHD2 graphics it appears I have some drift in RA that I must correct. All my RA corrections were on the same side of the graph.I believe that signifies an RA drift ? Looking at my PHD2 log from night one I see a frequent occurrence of "guide star lost" either for low SNR or low Star mass. I assume that losing the guide star for long periods means large sudden corrections and the "bouncing" I described. In any case I am attributing the primary cause of the problem to the guiding software either due to a settings error or poor selection of guide star. I will work on a solution with PHD2. Definitely not a mount problem as proved by last nights test. If anyone has a proven set of PHD2 settings i would appreciate getting them.

Thanks for your responses.   


Re: Bad images _Bouncing stars

John Thompson <jbtgolfer@...>
 

This is a follow up to my "Bouncing Stars" post. I imaged the next night (with and without guiding) for 1200 sec exposures. The images were fine (round stars) no zig-zag patterns or elongated stars. I did notice a slight oblong effect in the unguided image. Looking at  PHD2 graphics it appears I have some drift in RA that I must correct. All my RA corrections were on the same side of the graph.I believe that signifies an RA drift ? Looking at my PHD2 log from night one I see a frequent occurrence of "guide star lost" either for low SNR or low Star mass. I assume that losing the guide star for long periods means large sudden corrections and the "bouncing" I described. In any case I am attributing the primary cause of the problem to the guiding software either due to a settings error or poor selection of guide star. I will work on a solution with PHD2. Definitely not a mount problem as proved by last nights test. If anyone has a proven set of PHD2 settings i would appreciate getting them.

Thanks for your responses.   


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Frank Widmann
 

Rick,

I elected to keep the mini PC on the stationary side because I connect it to the GTOCP4 via a serial cable. I also connect other stationary items like the Astromi.ch GPS/Environmental sensor, and a field monitor I keep in the cabinet with a wireless mouse and keypad for at the scope work for work at the scope.

Frank


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Rick Socarras
 

Wade,

Thankyou.  Great Idea.  Although I'm still surprised by how many cables we need to deal with.  The Mach 2 will need to have 2 power connections...mount at 24V and all else at 12V.  I can't wait to figure out how all this comes together for me.  I just ordered the Rigriunner to help keep things as neat as possible.  Next stop is a case!  Thanks again for sharing.

Rick


Re: Guider exposure times?

Worsel
 

Mike

I almost always use 4 seconds with no delay between guider exposures.  I have tinkered with up to 10 seconds and delays up to 20 seconds, but keep getting the best performance in terms of star quality and low RMS with 4 seconds and zero delay.

OAG, 2500 mm F.L., full frame DSLR

YMMV

Bryan


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Charles Thompson
 

I really enjoy using the Pocket Power box and the Ultimate Power box V2. However, when I got my Pocket Power box last year it lasted a month before two of the power outputs quit working and my Ultimate V2 that came a few months ago didn't work right it if the box. They were quick to replace them but I've heard many quality control issues from friends that also use them. I had to reflow the solder joints on the Pocket box because the solder joints were cold and loose.  I couldn't fix the UPBv2 because it was the USB3 controller. They sent me a replacement board quickly and it has worked for several months not without issue. 

Honestly, there isn't another all in one solution that I could find so I'm sticking with them! Initially I made all my money back from the purchase by selling 3 of my Moonlite focus motor controllers. 

Hope that helps!



Thanks,
Charles

Sent from mobile device.


-------- Original message --------
From: W Hilmo <y.groups@...>
Date: 5/1/20 10:35 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

I like it quite a lot.  It replaces three other pieces of gear:  an Optec FocusLynx, a DewBuster and a USB hub.  I also like that it’s easy to mount to the top rail on the scope.  It allows me to use software to turn the power ports and USB ports on and off from the computer.  It also reports the amount of current that is in use.

 

The one thing that I’ve run into is that it is pretty sensitive to how the cables are routed.  When I first set it up, and had all of the cable nicely bundled together on the side of the OTA.  When I had it all tidied up, the main imaging camera was pretty unstable.  That’s why the cables are all loose in the image.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 8:29 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Wade how do you like that pegasus powerbox?

 

i've been curious about it, but it's a little pricey and i don't need the focus motor controller.

 

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:18 AM W Hilmo <y.groups@...> wrote:

I have a small form factor PC (a Core i5) installed in an Apache case, along
with a RigRunner, an Ethernet hub and a wireless router.  I also have a
Pegasus Astro Ultimate PowerBox V2 mounted to the top dovetail plate on my
OTA.  The Ultimate PowerBox runs the focuser and dew heaters, and provides a
USB hub for the main and guide cameras.  I have one power cable and one USB
3 cable that run through the AP1600.

I have no cable snags because most of the cabling rides on the OTA and I
have just the two cables running through the mount.  For setup and take
down, I have just the above 4 connections to plug in.  And when I want to go
portable, I can take the OTA and Apache case along with my AP1100 and use
the same setup.

When I want to image, I carry the Apache case out to the mount and attach
the two through-the-mount cables to the computer.  I then attach the
Ethernet and power cables from the CP4.  At home, I have the wireless router
configured as a bridge to my how wireless network.  In the field, I have the
wireless router configured to run as a hotspot.   I run the whole thing by
using Remote Desktop to connect to the computer from a laptop, a tablet, or
another PC, depending on whether I am home or in the field. 

This would work great with a Mach2.  The only difference would be that I
would use the Mach2's power and USB routing instead of running my own cables
through the mount.  I was inspired to change my setup to work like above
after looking at the Mach2 at Advanced Imaging Conference.  That was a neat
setup with two refractors mounted side-by-side with an Ultimate PowerBox
between them.  Prior to doing it this way, I mounted the PC, the RigRunner,
the wireless router, etc. on a plywood board.  I strapped the board to the
pier and ran all the cables through the mount.  The way that I'm doing it
now is much cleaner and easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank
Widmann via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:58 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Rather than put a mini pc on the moving side of my AP 1600. I mount a
Startech 7-port industrial USB and a Rig Runner power distribution and run
two cables through the mount. I house an industrial mini PC and two power
supplies, one for the mount and one for the accessories, in a waterproof
cabinet. I use Belkin Wemo wireless switched outlets to turn power on and
off. I run the mini PC headless from my office using Windows Remote Desktop.


Frank








 

--

Brian 

 

 

 

Brian Valente


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

W Hilmo
 

I assume that you are looking for each of the components that are running from that power supply.  If so, I have:

 

AP1600GTO CP4

Pegasus Ultimate PowerBox v2 (which supplies power to the dew heaters and Optec focus motor)

QSI 690wsg-8

Starlight Xpress Ultrastar

Ethernet hub and wireless router

 

The total power draw when imaging is between 3 and 4 amps.  I sometimes image with my C14 as well.  The larger dew heater on that scope pulls about an extra 1 amp over the 8”.

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Hambrick via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 8:51 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Nice Wade ! When you are set up at home what are you running off of the Powewerx power supply ?

Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
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Re: AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC

Dan Simpson
 

Hi All,
Original poster here, I got together, virtually, with my local computer guy. We tracked the problem down to a faulty network switch. Happened to have a replacement and everything is up and running as before.

My network configuration was fine. 

Thanks to all for your help,
Dan

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 6:49 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:
The error bits that APCC and the driver show originate from the CP4, so if there is an error try power cycling the CP4. Also, there is a separate button in the driver to clear errors. See the help file for more information.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


> -----Original Message-----
> From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Yves Laroche
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:35 PM
> To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>
> I really understood the meaning.  Just to be sure you're not thinking it was a UDP problem.
>
> Another thing I noticed...I got many errors because the motors were not plugged to the CP4 as they should.  The
> View Error(s) button within APCC is still there even if I pressed the Clear Errors button.  Also the big yellow
> window from the ASCOM driver still there.
>
> If I disconnect the ASCOM driver and connect it again, the same error rise again.  Is it a normal behaviour?
> Thanks!
>
> Best regards,
> Yves
>
> Le 28/04/20 19:03, Ray Gralak <groups3@...> a écrit :
>
>       Hi Yves,
>
>       Thanks for the additional data point!
>
>       I didn't mean  to imply using UDP is universally bad. In most cases there are no issues with using UDP,
> but it is possible for UDP packets to be dropped or sent out of order, which can cause problems. And specifically
> because there were issues I could not reproduce I wanted Steve to try using TCP instead.
>
>       -Ray Gralak
>       Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>       Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
>       Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>
>
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Yves Laroche
>       > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 3:52 PM
>       > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >
>       > Hi Ray,
>       >
>       > FYI, I have exactly the same setup as Steve (1200GTO, CP4 (latest firmware), latest ASCOM/APCC
> updates)
>       > and everything is working well with UDP.  Always use UDP protocol. Just tested with my GTOCP4
> without motors
>       > and no problem.  Even watched Steve's video to be sure...  Unchecked Auto-Connect and did see
> nothing.
>       >
>       > Regards,
>       > Yves
>       >
>       > Le 28/04/20 17:48, Ray Gralak <groups3@...> a écrit :
>       >
>       >  APCC polls the CP4 once every 5 seconds for that particular status, so it can take up to that long to
>       > display in the user interface. However,  the actual park status changes immediately in the CP4.
>       >
>       >  -Ray Gralak
>       >  Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>       >  Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
>       >  Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>       >
>       >
>       >  > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly
>       >  > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:42 PM
>       >  > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  >
>       >  > I did change to TCP and it worked. What I'm looking at now is I saw it initialize the mount the first
> time,
>       >  > disconnected, waited a bit, reconnected and no initializing that time. Cycled power and same result
> but I
>       > did see
>       >  > unpark become active shortly afterwards. Is that normal?
>       >  >
>       >  > -Steve
>       >  >
>       >  >
>       >  > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray Gralak
>       >  > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:35 PM
>       >  > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  >
>       >  > You power cycled and the mount APCC could not unpark your mount using TCP?
>       >  >
>       >  > If so, please attach the APCC log file so I can see what happened.
>       >  >
>       >  > -Ray Gralak
>       >  > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>       >  > Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
>       >  > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>       >  >
>       >  >
>       >  > > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
>       >  > > Of Steve Reilly
>       >  > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:29 PM
>       >  > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > Done and done with same results. The UDP setting was used by Howard
>       >  > > when we had problems with the system. That’s beyond my paygrade and
>       >  > > seeing how all was working the other night with APCC out of the picture I didn’t want to lose any
> more
>       > imaging
>       >  > time as we’ve had dismal weather the past few months.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > The screen shot is what I see when I opened Initialize Settings.
>       >  > > Already set as you said. And you can clearly see auto connect for the ASCOM driver is unchecked.
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > -Steve
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
>       >  > > Gralak
>       >  > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:18 PM
>       >  > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > Steve,
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > You can edit the initialize settings from APCC's Settings tab like in this screen shot:
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > Make sure unpark from last park is configured. Also, don't forget to
>       >  > > uncheck Auto-Connect in the AP V2 Deiver group box!
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > Then power cycle the mount.
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > The purpose of the apps being disconnected is so there is only one log
>       >  > > file to look at. I don't care if you have ACP running as long as the ASCOM driver is not connected to
>       > APCC.
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > -Ray Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
>       >  > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>       >  > >
>       >  > > Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
>       >  > >
>       >  > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
>       >  > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf
>       >  > > > Of Steve Reilly
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:10 PM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Well if I could initialize the mount I would but I get a notice that
>       >  > > > it can not initialize the mount unless RA=0 and
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > DEC=90. The mount is parked where it always is at Park4.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ray
>       >  > > > Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:50 PM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Steve,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > You're making things way too complicated. Can you shut down all
>       >  > > > those apps and try APCC by itself. I've said
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > this many times before do NOT connect APCC to the AP V2 driver for these tests!
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Do you unpark as part of the mount initialization? If not, setup
>       >  > > > APCC to do that with the ASCOM driver NOT
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > connected. Also, use TCP instead of UDP because commands can be lost
>       >  > > > using UDP and for the purpose of
>       >  > > this
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > test we want to be sure no commands are lost.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Shut the mount off, then power it on.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > APCC should initialize and unpark the mount. Let's see a video of that?
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > -Ray Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
>       >  > > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On
>       >  > > > > Behalf
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Of Steve Reilly
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:28 PM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Ray,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > From our earlier email I had said that I could not unpark using
>       >  > > > > APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > and that still holds true today. I did install both the newest
>       >  > > > > APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > versions and ASCOM driver this afternoon and repeated the test. I
>       >  > > > > had done this test before and after
>       >  > > updates
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > today. To clear up any misunderstanding what I did I used Bandicam to record the tests.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > The same results so I just uploaded the newest versions test as
>       >  > > > > they
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > both have the same results. I can park when unparked but I can not
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > unpark in APCC under any circumstances I know of. I can park and
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > unpark at will with the driver. I can park in APCC after it's
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > unparked. See this video
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ev8cnm27a56hq1/bandicam%202020-04-28%2
>       >  > > > > 015-
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > 54-01-424.avi?dl=0>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > I hope this sheds some light on the issue. If I did something
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > incorrect please advise. Also as a point of interest I disabled
>       >  > > > > APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > from my startup script for ACP Expert and have been able to image
>       >  > > > > where with it not so much as it hangs
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > waiting on a mount response to parking/unparking which can affect if my roll off roof closes or not.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Maybe my driver configuration? But that works by itself….
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > -Steve
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
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>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of
>       >  > > > > Ray
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 1:38 PM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Hi Dan,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Had
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > So, the problem is not with the CP4 or the software, but likely your connection.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the
>       >  > > > > > adapter
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > This is going to require you to learn a little about networking
>       >  > > > > and
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > your home router. That's going to be up to you to do that research.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > :-)
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > That said, I suggest you follow what I suggested to Jack in a post
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > yesterday. That is put your computer and CP4 on your local LAN and
>       >  > > > > configure your home router to use
>       >  > > DHCP
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > (usually they are set that way by default).
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Then APCC should be able to find your CP4 and communicate correctly.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > One caveat... when using DHCP the router may assign a different IP
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > address to the CP4 each time the CP4 is power on.  If you don't
>       >  > > > > want
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > to use the Find CP4/5 button in APCC when that happens then I
>       >  > > > > suggest
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > you configure your router to provide the CP4 with a static IP
>       >  > > > > address. This will reserve that IP address for the
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > CP4 and it won't change as long as you use that router.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > -Ray Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro <https://www.astro-
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > physics.com/apcc-pro>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <https://www.ccdware.com>  Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
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>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Of Dan Simpson
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 9:39 AM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Hi Ray,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > I did try using a USB cable yesterday but got no response from the mount.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > I was finally able to try a serial/USB FTDI adapter this morning.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Had
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > to track one down from a friend. This setup is connecting. and seems to be working properly!
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > I would prefer to keep my original connection setup as the
>       >  > > > > > adapter
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > presents some cable snag issues. Is there anything else I can try?
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Thanks,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Dan
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
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>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020, 9:30 PM Ray Gralak <groups3@...
>       >  > > > > > <mailto:groups3@...
>       >  > > <mailto:groups3@...%20%3cmailto:groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...
> <mailto:groups3@...>  <mailto:groups3@...
>       > <mailto:groups3@...> > > > wrote:
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >
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>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             Dan,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             It sounds like you may have a network problem. So,
>       >  > > > > > did
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > you try the
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > alternative I suggested? That is connecting APCC via its USB or
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > serial port? If that works, or doesn't work,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > helps isolate the problem.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             -Ray Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > <https://www.ccdware.com>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
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>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>  [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:46 PM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via
>       >  > > > > > APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Hi Ray,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > I guess my first question would be: what changed?
>       >  > > > > > I
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > can't remember
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > the last time I dug into the network settings.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > I've been using this exact same setup (GTOCP4,
>       >  > > > > > Cat5e,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > couple of
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > network switches and a dual NIC) for well over
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > a year.  Again, I did nothing, consciously, to change it.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > In order to simplify things I've run a single
>       >  > > > > > straight
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Cat5e cable
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > between the mount and the computer. I also
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > disconnected the two other Cat5e cables just to be sure.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > The one thing that changed right away is that
>       >  > > > > > clicking
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > the Find
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > button in the APCC Connection window shows the
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > mount is available. However, I still cannot Unpark
>       >  > > > > > the
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > mount with
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > either the APCC button or the ASCOM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > V2
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > button.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > I tried Unparking with both programs using the
>       >  > > > > > Last Park and Park 4 (my keypad needs an
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > upgrade).
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > No
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > response.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > I also tried to first Park and then Unpark. Again, no response.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Reconnecting the Internet-RigRunner cable - to the
>       >  > > > > > motherboard port - caused the connection to
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > fail.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Reconnecting the Digital Logger cable did not affect the connection.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Your video lasted a lot longer than my test. I
>       >  > > > > > can,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > apparently,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > connect the mount to APCC and AP V2 but I am
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > not able to use that connection in any meaningful way.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > I've again left some images in my Dropbox folder.
>       >  > > > > > They
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > show the LAN
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > settings and what happened when I tried
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Parking and Unparking. Hopefully, there might be a clue there.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Scree
>       >  > > > > > n%20
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Captures.zip?dl=0
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/ihmtigiyzllsmmk/APCC%20Simpson%20Screen
>       >  > > > > %20C
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > aptures.zip?dl=0>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > Thanks,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 8:44 AM Ray Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > <groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...
>       >  > > <mailto:groups3@...%20%3cmailto:groups3@... <mailto:groups3@...
> <mailto:groups3@...>  <mailto:groups3@...
>       > <mailto:groups3@...> > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > wrote:
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       Dan,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       One more thought...
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       if there is a router on your LAN with an internet connection, what is the subnet of
>       > the LAN
>       >  > you
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > are
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > using?
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > (eg. 192.168.1.0)
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       If the CP4 is setup to accept a DHCP address it should be provided one by your
>       > router. It
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > shouldn't
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > need to
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > be on the 169.254.1.x LAN.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       -Ray Gralak
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-
>       > physics.com/apcc-pro
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       Author of PEMPro V3:  https://www.ccdware.com <https://www.ccdware.com>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > -----Original Message-----
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
>       > [mailto:main@ap-
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > gto.groups.io
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io> ] On Behalf Of Dan Simpson
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 6:57 AM
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io>
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 won't unpark via APCC
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Ray,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Thanks for the video. I was unaware of the Find feature in the Connection box
>       > which is
>       >  > very
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > nice.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Unfortunately, when I click on the Find button the window pops up but does
> not
>       > show any
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > connection
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > options.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > I've attached a snip.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Power is definitely on, Cat5e cable is blinking. Keypad is on.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > I also tried eliminating a couple of network switches with a straight run
> between
>       > the
>       >  > > computer
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > and
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > the
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > mount, but
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > no joy.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Closing the Find window and clicking on Mount Connect shows the mount as
>       > Parked,
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Tracking=Zero but
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > the
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > APCC Unpark button is non-functional.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > I went ahead and connected the AP V2 ASCOM Driver and tried Unpark.
> Again,
>       > the
>       >  > Mount
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > Info
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Park
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > shows
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Unparked for a moment but quickly reverts to Parked.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > I tried connecting TheSkyX and found I could connect and perform a
> successful
>       > goto.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > I tried Parking with TSX and it sent the mount to the Park position but the slew
>       > message
>       >  > > said
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > Parking
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > and never
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > went to Parked. TSX remained frozen in this state.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > So, what I believe is wrong is the GTOCP4 unit is hosed. There seems to be a
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > communication
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > issue
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > where it is not
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > reporting or recording the current state. It may be something in the firmware or
> it
>       > may be
>       >  > a
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > physical
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > problem. All of
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > this is way beyond my pay grade. I think I need to contact AP directly and try
> to
>       > work
>       >  > > through
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > this
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > > with
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             > them. Do
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > you think that is a reasonable conclusion?
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Thanks for all the time and help.
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > Dan
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > >
>       >  > >
>       >  > > > > >             >       > On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 3:46 PM Dan Simpson via


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

Nice Wade ! When you are set up at home what are you running off of the Powewerx power supply ?

Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

W Hilmo
 

I am pretty sure that it is.  I just went out and measured and the column is 24”.  The bottom of the AP1600 is about 32” above the ground.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Charles Thompson via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 8:32 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Thanks for the picture!  Is that the 24" portable pier?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Charles

 

Sent from mobile device.

 

 

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From: W Hilmo <y.groups@...>

Date: 5/1/20 10:22 AM (GMT-06:00)

Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

I just uploaded a picture of the setup to my Astrobin gallery:

 

https://www.astrobin.com/gtynd2/

 

-Wade

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Jacobsen
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 7:37 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Yes, it would be interesting to see a picture.  Sounds like a nice setup.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

W Hilmo
 

I like it quite a lot.  It replaces three other pieces of gear:  an Optec FocusLynx, a DewBuster and a USB hub.  I also like that it’s easy to mount to the top rail on the scope.  It allows me to use software to turn the power ports and USB ports on and off from the computer.  It also reports the amount of current that is in use.

 

The one thing that I’ve run into is that it is pretty sensitive to how the cables are routed.  When I first set it up, and had all of the cable nicely bundled together on the side of the OTA.  When I had it all tidied up, the main imaging camera was pretty unstable.  That’s why the cables are all loose in the image.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 8:29 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Wade how do you like that pegasus powerbox?

 

i've been curious about it, but it's a little pricey and i don't need the focus motor controller.

 

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:18 AM W Hilmo <y.groups@...> wrote:

I have a small form factor PC (a Core i5) installed in an Apache case, along
with a RigRunner, an Ethernet hub and a wireless router.  I also have a
Pegasus Astro Ultimate PowerBox V2 mounted to the top dovetail plate on my
OTA.  The Ultimate PowerBox runs the focuser and dew heaters, and provides a
USB hub for the main and guide cameras.  I have one power cable and one USB
3 cable that run through the AP1600.

I have no cable snags because most of the cabling rides on the OTA and I
have just the two cables running through the mount.  For setup and take
down, I have just the above 4 connections to plug in.  And when I want to go
portable, I can take the OTA and Apache case along with my AP1100 and use
the same setup.

When I want to image, I carry the Apache case out to the mount and attach
the two through-the-mount cables to the computer.  I then attach the
Ethernet and power cables from the CP4.  At home, I have the wireless router
configured as a bridge to my how wireless network.  In the field, I have the
wireless router configured to run as a hotspot.   I run the whole thing by
using Remote Desktop to connect to the computer from a laptop, a tablet, or
another PC, depending on whether I am home or in the field. 

This would work great with a Mach2.  The only difference would be that I
would use the Mach2's power and USB routing instead of running my own cables
through the mount.  I was inspired to change my setup to work like above
after looking at the Mach2 at Advanced Imaging Conference.  That was a neat
setup with two refractors mounted side-by-side with an Ultimate PowerBox
between them.  Prior to doing it this way, I mounted the PC, the RigRunner,
the wireless router, etc. on a plywood board.  I strapped the board to the
pier and ran all the cables through the mount.  The way that I'm doing it
now is much cleaner and easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank
Widmann via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:58 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Rather than put a mini pc on the moving side of my AP 1600. I mount a
Startech 7-port industrial USB and a Rig Runner power distribution and run
two cables through the mount. I house an industrial mini PC and two power
supplies, one for the mount and one for the accessories, in a waterproof
cabinet. I use Belkin Wemo wireless switched outlets to turn power on and
off. I run the mini PC headless from my office using Windows Remote Desktop.


Frank








 

--

Brian 

 

 

 

Brian Valente


Re: Mach2 Status Update

Cheng-Yang Tan
 

Hi Karen,
   I just signed up :)

Thanks!

cytan

On Friday, May 1, 2020, 09:52:24 AM CDT, Karen Christen <karen@...> wrote:


Hello Cytan,

 

We were in the middle of the second run of Mach2s when Illinois went into shutdown.  Many of the parts are already machined, some have gone through anodizing, and some electronics are assembled.  But that’s where it stands until we can get our production folks back into the building.  I think it’s safe to say that if you sign up on the list now, you’ll have a year to save up.  J

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 8:32 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Status Update

 

Hi Karen,

  This is probably too soon to ask, but when do you think the next batch will be made? I’m seriously thinking of buying one and would like to know the approximate wait time if I put myself on the list. If it’s more than a year, that’ll be enough time to save up :)

 

cytan


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 8:06 PM, Karen Christen <karen@...> wrote:

Hello Dean,

 

The short answer to your question is: no.  The IL Governor has extended the Stay-at-Home order for another month with very few alterations.  The primary changes include allowing some parks to re-open, retail stores may now process online orders for pick-up or delivery, and garden centers may open (assumedly as a potential source of food).  But manufacturing, specifically for non-essential items, remains prohibited. 

 

Our office folks and some production staff will continue to do what they can at home, and the rest will remain out of the shop and not working.  Roland, Marj, and I are working 65-75 hours per week to do all we are able here at the shop.  We appreciate everyone’s patience.

 

Karen Christen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Jacobsen
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 7:45 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Status Update

 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 07:54 AM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:

We are busy assembling and shipping. I have people doing sub-assemblies at home and I am doing all final assembly and testing here. There are mounts going out pretty much every day now.

I see that Illinois is opening up the stay at home order a bit. Will you be affected in a positive way?
 
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Charles Thompson
 

Thanks for the picture!  Is that the 24" portable pier?





Thanks,
Charles

Sent from mobile device.


-------- Original message --------
From: W Hilmo <y.groups@...>
Date: 5/1/20 10:22 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

I just uploaded a picture of the setup to my Astrobin gallery:

 

https://www.astrobin.com/gtynd2/

 

-Wade

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Jacobsen
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 7:37 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Yes, it would be interesting to see a picture.  Sounds like a nice setup.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Wade how do you like that pegasus powerbox?

i've been curious about it, but it's a little pricey and i don't need the focus motor controller.

On Fri, May 1, 2020 at 6:18 AM W Hilmo <y.groups@...> wrote:
I have a small form factor PC (a Core i5) installed in an Apache case, along
with a RigRunner, an Ethernet hub and a wireless router.  I also have a
Pegasus Astro Ultimate PowerBox V2 mounted to the top dovetail plate on my
OTA.  The Ultimate PowerBox runs the focuser and dew heaters, and provides a
USB hub for the main and guide cameras.  I have one power cable and one USB
3 cable that run through the AP1600.

I have no cable snags because most of the cabling rides on the OTA and I
have just the two cables running through the mount.  For setup and take
down, I have just the above 4 connections to plug in.  And when I want to go
portable, I can take the OTA and Apache case along with my AP1100 and use
the same setup.

When I want to image, I carry the Apache case out to the mount and attach
the two through-the-mount cables to the computer.  I then attach the
Ethernet and power cables from the CP4.  At home, I have the wireless router
configured as a bridge to my how wireless network.  In the field, I have the
wireless router configured to run as a hotspot.   I run the whole thing by
using Remote Desktop to connect to the computer from a laptop, a tablet, or
another PC, depending on whether I am home or in the field. 

This would work great with a Mach2.  The only difference would be that I
would use the Mach2's power and USB routing instead of running my own cables
through the mount.  I was inspired to change my setup to work like above
after looking at the Mach2 at Advanced Imaging Conference.  That was a neat
setup with two refractors mounted side-by-side with an Ultimate PowerBox
between them.  Prior to doing it this way, I mounted the PC, the RigRunner,
the wireless router, etc. on a plywood board.  I strapped the board to the
pier and ran all the cables through the mount.  The way that I'm doing it
now is much cleaner and easier.

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Frank
Widmann via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 8:58 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Rather than put a mini pc on the moving side of my AP 1600. I mount a
Startech 7-port industrial USB and a Rig Runner power distribution and run
two cables through the mount. I house an industrial mini PC and two power
supplies, one for the mount and one for the accessories, in a waterproof
cabinet. I use Belkin Wemo wireless switched outlets to turn power on and
off. I run the mini PC headless from my office using Windows Remote Desktop.


Frank










--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

W Hilmo
 

I just uploaded a picture of the setup to my Astrobin gallery:

 

https://www.astrobin.com/gtynd2/

 

-Wade

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dean Jacobsen
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 7:37 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

 

Yes, it would be interesting to see a picture.  Sounds like a nice setup.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Mach2 Status Update

Karen Christen
 

Hello Cytan,

 

We were in the middle of the second run of Mach2s when Illinois went into shutdown.  Many of the parts are already machined, some have gone through anodizing, and some electronics are assembled.  But that’s where it stands until we can get our production folks back into the building.  I think it’s safe to say that if you sign up on the list now, you’ll have a year to save up.  J

Karen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 1, 2020 8:32 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Status Update

 

Hi Karen,

  This is probably too soon to ask, but when do you think the next batch will be made? I’m seriously thinking of buying one and would like to know the approximate wait time if I put myself on the list. If it’s more than a year, that’ll be enough time to save up :)

 

cytan


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Thursday, April 30, 2020, 8:06 PM, Karen Christen <karen@...> wrote:

Hello Dean,

 

The short answer to your question is: no.  The IL Governor has extended the Stay-at-Home order for another month with very few alterations.  The primary changes include allowing some parks to re-open, retail stores may now process online orders for pick-up or delivery, and garden centers may open (assumedly as a potential source of food).  But manufacturing, specifically for non-essential items, remains prohibited. 

 

Our office folks and some production staff will continue to do what they can at home, and the rest will remain out of the shop and not working.  Roland, Marj, and I are working 65-75 hours per week to do all we are able here at the shop.  We appreciate everyone’s patience.

 

Karen Christen

AP

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dean Jacobsen
Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 7:45 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Status Update

 

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 07:54 AM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:

We are busy assembling and shipping. I have people doing sub-assemblies at home and I am doing all final assembly and testing here. There are mounts going out pretty much every day now.

I see that Illinois is opening up the stay at home order a bit. Will you be affected in a positive way?
 
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


--
Karen Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Dean Jacobsen
 

Yes, it would be interesting to see a picture.  Sounds like a nice setup.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Rick Socarras
 

This setup sounds really great.  Can you share a picture of your Apache case and it's contents.  I'm starting to really love that idea.  In fact, I think my plan is to copy your setup exactly!  


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Rick Socarras
 

The keypad was not shipped with my order.  I assume the final software has not been released.


Re: Mach 2 Best Practice with PC #Mach2GTO

Rick Socarras
 

Frank,

Thankyou.  The Mach 2 has a USB and power running through it so I need to figure out if below the mount or the moving side is best.  I'm also running headless with an industrial PC that runs at 12V.  The moving part will have a PegasusAstro Powerbox with all the USBs and additional power breakouts.  I like the WEMO switch idea.  I also agree with Windows Remote Desktop as it just works.

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