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Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Robert Chozick <rchozick@...>
 

I have a 900 and that is only 22 pounds. Maybe the 1100 is too heavy also but 42 for the Mach 2 is definitely too heavy.   I could manage the Mach 1 weight but much prefer the single axis 900 weight. 

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 1:39 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


The Mach1 was the same weight as the RA axis of the 1100 mount ~ 28 lb. So why do you think the 1100 was much more portable than the Mach1?

If we could somehow split the Mach2 so that the heaviest part is less than 30lb, is that worthwhile?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

No stated limit. Whatever falls somewhere in between the two items.  I generally do not ever pick up anything heavy. My back is not great.   

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 1:18 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


What's the max weight you would carry?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

I have a 900 and I think the ability to split the axis for lower weight to carry makes a 900 or 1100 much more portable than the Mach 1 or 2. One of the reasons I changed from the Mach 1 to my 900 was because the Mach 1 was too heavy for me to carry.   I wish the Mach 2 was made with a split axis. For that reason I could never own a Mach 2. 

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Bill Long
 

This is great news that there will be more Stowaways! :) 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:35 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
 
Go for the encoders.

The 92's will be more and more available as time goes on. I plan another run after #3 is finished (unless the virus gets me).

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 11:34 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices


Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Ken Murfitt
 

If I may say so - when I weigh my MACH1 GTO and 1100 RA (no encoders) both 2018 models-

The MACH1 GTO is 31 lbs

The 1100 GTO RA is 27lbs

This is why I like the 1100 so much - it's actually a bit easier to set up (less bulky and lighter) though it takes a bit longer to do so due to the DEC axis (which is even lighter than RA)


Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Bill Long
 

The Mach 1 is very portable. :) 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 11:39 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
 
The Mach1 was the same weight as the RA axis of the 1100 mount ~ 28 lb. So why do you think the 1100 was much more portable than the Mach1?

If we could somehow split the Mach2 so that the heaviest part is less than 30lb, is that worthwhile?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

No stated limit. Whatever falls somewhere in between the two items.  I generally do not ever pick up anything heavy. My back is not great.   

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 1:18 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


What's the max weight you would carry?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

I have a 900 and I think the ability to split the axis for lower weight to carry makes a 900 or 1100 much more portable than the Mach 1 or 2. One of the reasons I changed from the Mach 1 to my 900 was because the Mach 1 was too heavy for me to carry.   I wish the Mach 2 was made with a split axis. For that reason I could never own a Mach 2. 

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Roland Christen
 

School is maybe a bad idea. Teachers don't stay after school in the dark. It probably won't be used.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:27 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

That is a great suggestion. I have also thought about donating it to a local school. Only bad thing is I kept the pier to use with my 1100 mount.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?

Eric Dreher <ericpdreher@...>
 

Thank you, Roland.  I will be disabling DEC Comp this evening.

Eric


Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Roland Christen
 

The Mach1 was the same weight as the RA axis of the 1100 mount ~ 28 lb. So why do you think the 1100 was much more portable than the Mach1?

If we could somehow split the Mach2 so that the heaviest part is less than 30lb, is that worthwhile?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:25 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

No stated limit. Whatever falls somewhere in between the two items.  I generally do not ever pick up anything heavy. My back is not great.   

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 1:18 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


What's the max weight you would carry?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

I have a 900 and I think the ability to split the axis for lower weight to carry makes a 900 or 1100 much more portable than the Mach 1 or 2. One of the reasons I changed from the Mach 1 to my 900 was because the Mach 1 was too heavy for me to carry.   I wish the Mach 2 was made with a split axis. For that reason I could never own a Mach 2. 

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



Re: AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?

Roland Christen
 

I never found Dec compensation to help in guiding. As the scope points further north the RA guide command is increased to compensate for the cosine of the Dec angle. But it is really not a good idea. Theoretically if you get to the pole, the cosine of the angle is zero and the amount of RA compensation is infinite. At that point the amount of motion sent to the mount would be infinite (error/0 = infinite). Even at 60 degrees Dec the error sent to the mount in Ra will be twice what was measured by the guide software. The errors produced by RA as you get further north toward the pole actually decrease anyway so there is no need to boost the response to the mount via the cosine multiplier.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Dreher <ericpdreher@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:19 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?

On that subject, Roland would you also disable Dec Compensation for guiding in PHD2 for a Mach1GTO as well?  To be clear, I am not referring to backlash compensation which I don't use.

Thank you.

Eric


Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

That is a great suggestion. I have also thought about donating it to a local school. Only bad thing is I kept the pier to use with my 1100 mount.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...


Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Robert Chozick <rchozick@...>
 

No stated limit. Whatever falls somewhere in between the two items.  I generally do not ever pick up anything heavy. My back is not great.   

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 1:18 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011@...> wrote:


What's the max weight you would carry?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

I have a 900 and I think the ability to split the axis for lower weight to carry makes a 900 or 1100 much more portable than the Mach 1 or 2. One of the reasons I changed from the Mach 1 to my 900 was because the Mach 1 was too heavy for me to carry.   I wish the Mach 2 was made with a split axis. For that reason I could never own a Mach 2. 

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Roland Christen
 


That is EXACTLY how I got my first scope!
Brilliant minds think alike!

By the way, a scope and mount could launch another amateur astronomer, a hobby that is getting more and more grey. Ant it would get a kid off of those damnable twitter phones for a while, to enjoy one of nature's most beautiful reality shows.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:02 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

That is EXACTLY how I got my first scope!

A Sears 60mm refractor on an Alt-Az mount. 50 years ago I mowed their lawn for an entire summer to get that scope.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:57 AM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.
Give it to a local kid who is just starting out in astronomy. That, and a scope you are no longer using. Have him/her mow your lawn as payment ;^))

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick=arlanxeo.com@groups.io>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



Re: AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?

Eric Dreher <ericpdreher@...>
 

On that subject, Roland would you also disable Dec Compensation for guiding in PHD2 for a Mach1GTO as well?  To be clear, I am not referring to backlash compensation which I don't use.

Thank you.

Eric


Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Roland Christen
 

What's the max weight you would carry?

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Chozick via groups.io <rchozick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 1:13 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

I have a 900 and I think the ability to split the axis for lower weight to carry makes a 900 or 1100 much more portable than the Mach 1 or 2. One of the reasons I changed from the Mach 1 to my 900 was because the Mach 1 was too heavy for me to carry.   I wish the Mach 2 was made with a split axis. For that reason I could never own a Mach 2. 

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Robert Chozick <rchozick@...>
 

I have a 900 and I think the ability to split the axis for lower weight to carry makes a 900 or 1100 much more portable than the Mach 1 or 2. One of the reasons I changed from the Mach 1 to my 900 was because the Mach 1 was too heavy for me to carry.   I wish the Mach 2 was made with a split axis. For that reason I could never own a Mach 2. 

Robert 


On Apr 23, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



--
Brian  



Brian Valente
portfolio brianvalentephotography.com  [nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]




Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Christopher Erickson
 

That is EXACTLY how I got my first scope!

A Sears 60mm refractor on an Alt-Az mount. 50 years ago I mowed their lawn for an entire summer to get that scope.

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 7:57 AM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.
Give it to a local kid who is just starting out in astronomy. That, and a scope you are no longer using. Have him/her mow your lawn as payment ;^))

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick=arlanxeo.com@groups.io>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices


--
Brian  



Brian Valente
portfolio brianvalentephotography.com  [nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]



Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Roland Christen
 


I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.
Give it to a local kid who is just starting out in astronomy. That, and a scope you are no longer using. Have him/her mow your lawn as payment ;^))

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Hambrick via groups.io <mike.hambrick@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Michael Hambrick <mike.hambrick@...>
 

Thanks Bill. I do love my 1100 mount, and will likely never sell it.

I had a similar dilemma a couple years ago when I posed a question to George whether to get a better mount (I was using an A-P 800 at the time), or to get a better camera. He advised me to sell my 800 mount and get the 1100. That was very good advice and I have never regretted the decision to get the mount.

As you mentioned in your previous post, it often turns out that the financial controller releases more funds later on. This is exactly what happened before. I bought the 1100GTO mount, and then about a year later she let me upgrade my camera.

Isn't it funny how most of the financial controllers are female ? I know that at least for my case I would probably be broke if I were the financial controller :>)

I still have the old 800 mount that I need to figure out what I am going to do with it.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Bill Long" <bill@...>
To:        "main@ap-gto.groups.io" <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Date:        2020-04-23 12:25 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
Sent by:        main@ap-gto.groups.io




Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on.




From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent:
Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To:
main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject:
Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



--
Brian  



Brian Valente
portfolio brianvalentephotography.com  [nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]




Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Roland Christen
 

Go for the encoders.

The 92's will be more and more available as time goes on. I plan another run after #3 is finished (unless the virus gets me).

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 11:34 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices


Re: AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?

Roland Christen
 

Yes, remove the Dec compensation. In fact i would remove it in both. The further you go north the more overcompensated Ra guiding becomes.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Shade <mshade@q.com>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2020 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?

One additional question...I am using Maxim 5.18 to guide the 1600GTO through the CDK 17.  As I understand it, Maxim has built in declination compensation (I am also using an Optec Gemini rotating focuser).  I also use ACP to run everything.  ACP also has guiding declination.  Curious if the declination compensation in ACP is not needed and might be causing some conflict with Maxim with RA guiding.  Reason is that I get ever so slightly out of round stars in the E/W direction, just a few pixels but enough to notice (.63"/pixel).  Always in the E/W direction.  I suspect a guiding issue as this system will do a 5 minute unguided image near the zenith with round stars so I am not suspecting polar alignment, PEC curve issues, gear mesh.
 
I did bump the minimum move in Maxim from .01" to .02", might need to go a light bit more perhaps.
 
Mike J. Shade
Mike J. Shade Photography:
 
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
 
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org
 
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Shade
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 5:53 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?
 
OK, thanks...will try that and see how it goes.
 
Mike J. Shade
Mike J. Shade Photography:
 
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
 
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org
 
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 4:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?
 
With my 17" astrograph and 1600 mount I have used .02sec mostly. Max move is .5 sec.
 
Rolando
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Shade <mshade@q.com>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Apr 22, 2020 5:46 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] AP 1600 minimum move/MAXIM?
Have a first generation 1600GTO/Planewave CDK 17/SBIG STL6303E camera, permanent observatory setup.  Guiding with the internal guider on the camera, ST237 chip.  Main imaging scale .63"/pixel unbinned, guider binned 3X3, guiding at 1X sidereal.
 
Curious as to what folks have found to be a useful minimum move setting in Maxim for guiding (I'm still using V5.18) with a 1600?
 
Using ASCOM to guide, not the guider relays.  ACP runs the whole show. 
 
Looking for what folks have found to be a starting point.  Seeing here tends to run about 2", sometimes a bit better, sometimes a bit worse.
 
Thanks...
 
Mike J. Shade
Mike J. Shade Photography:
mshadephotography.com
 
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
 
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org


Re: Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway

Bill Long
 

Do not sell the 1100! It is the best mount A-P makes for all around use IMHO. VERY portable, excellent and spacious cabling system, support for encoders, high weight capacity, and the list just goes on and on. 



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of dvjbaja <jpgleasonid@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 10:22 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Which to Choose; Absolute Encoders or 92 mm Stowaway
 
Guess I'm really odd.  In over 40 years of imaging, I've never needed a mount with absolute encoders and I have had a wee bit of success with my images.  Always go for the gold!  The Telescope!  Sell your 1100, get the Mach 2.  Problem solved. In fact, that's my decision. I have a new 1100 but if the Mach 2 has the load bearing capability as described, it's smaller size would make life a little easier.    ;-)  

J. Gleason.  

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:12 AM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
I guess i am the odd one out - i would pick the encoders

you have some great scopes there, time to put them to even better use!

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:34 AM M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
I am somewhere on the waiting list for one of the 92 mm Stowaway refractors, and I currently own an 1100GTO mount without absolute encoders. Someday, lady luck may finally shine her light on me and I will get notified that there will be a Stowaway available for me to order. I am also seriously thinking about upgrading my 1100 mount with the absolute encoders. The financial controller at my house tells me that I have to pick between the scope or the mount upgrade. I would be interested to hear comments from the other members which they would choose. I do almost exclusively imaging, and I already own two nice refractors; a recently upgraded Astro-Physics 180EDT, and a Tele-Vue NP101is. Choices. Choices



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