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Re: Mach2 and APCC last night

Terri Zittritsch
 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 11:07 AM, Wayne Hixson wrote:
Excellent report Terri. We had a pretty clear night, but it was fairly breezy, still got better than 0.6" over 4 hours and a low target. I also use APCC meridian limits but in my case it's to cause a flip early. My "postage stamp" observatory on my eastern back deck is partially under my eaves of my house and the mount tracks under the eaves before the meridian. If I flip an hour or so before the meridian i can track over the eaves and get 3 extra hours. I use Voyager software to run everything and it handles centering, guider calibration and control, and focusing so I can sleep a bit - although I do get up just to check every once in a while! Really love the mount so far.
Hi Wayne, I had one of those two nights before, in fact very breezy.   So breezy it blew my computer shelter/crate right off the table while I was holding my laptop adjusting guide camera focus.    I didn't notice the mount with scope being too effected by the breeze (stowaway),  skies that night were not great and most of my shots have haze/halos around the bright stars, so probably going to toss them if the halos don't get rejected in processing.     Given how few clear nights we have i just hate to throw frames away!      That's pretty good to keep .6 arc seconds over 4 hours.   I was almost there on my second target last night but a moonrise stopped my progress as well as a need to get up for work today, even though we're working from home I still do a lot of video conferences and need to at least appear non-catatonic.  

My meridian flipping is the same as yours, an early flip so I don't get a flip during imaging (it doesn't matter all that much since I plate solve and pixinsight handles alignment and processing just fine), but it saves precious imaging time.   One of my targets flipped less than an hour early but the real test was my second target which flipped more than 2 hours early... no issues whatsoever.    So basically stayed the same orientation, weight on the west side the entire session, scope on the east side of the pier.     The object didn't pass the meridian until a little before 2am after starting at 11pm.

Terri





moderated Re: Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Lawrence Lopez
 

Astro images will have fewer contrails.


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 12:28 PM David via Groups.Io <phrosty5=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
This cavalier attitude is what will kill many people, and shows your astounding lack of understanding of epidemiology.  Avoiding others is paramount right now.  



On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:48 AM, thefamily90 Phillips <thefamily90@...> wrote:

Yesterday more people died from falling down stairs than from Coronavirus


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Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:56:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature
 
Please be careful and don't touch anything. Carry hand sanitizer and stay away from people! You all riding the bus worries me. Take care and safe travels!


Thanks,
Charles

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-------- Original message --------
From: "uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io" <chris1011@...>
Date: 3/16/20 1:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

We're flying back tomorrow. I don't anticipate any problems. Ohare is a breeze, get off the plane, head for the bus and we are on the way home. There are no lines coming out of Ohare, it's a straight shot to the Rockford bus.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 15, 2020 3:29 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Thanks Marj Good advice.

Are you and Roland still in Hawaii ?

They were showing the immigration lines in Chicago this morning on the news. The wait is several hours long. Fortunately, when you come home you will not have to go through immigration, but the airport will likely be a circus. On the upside, I expect that after the initial rush of people trying to get into the country from the EU, things will slow down a lot. Your biggest risk will be that they cancel your flight due to lack of travelers. I suppose if you are going to get stuck somewhere I can't think of a better place than Hale Lalani Hoku.

I count myself very lucky. I was scheduled to fly home from Germany on Saturday, but decided on Wednesday to fly home a day early. Luckily I did this a few hours before they announced the travel ban, and I got home OK with surprisingly little problems. I am currently in self-quarantine for 2 weeks.
 
Daleen is planning to ship my upgraded 180 EDT on Monday. If the weather cooperates I hope to spend some time outside with my scope during my quarantine.


moderated Re: Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

David
 

This cavalier attitude is what will kill many people, and shows your astounding lack of understanding of epidemiology.  Avoiding others is paramount right now.  



On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:48 AM, thefamily90 Phillips <thefamily90@...> wrote:

Yesterday more people died from falling down stairs than from Coronavirus


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Thompson via Groups.Io <cthomp97@...>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:56:03 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature
 
Please be careful and don't touch anything. Carry hand sanitizer and stay away from people! You all riding the bus worries me. Take care and safe travels!


Thanks,
Charles

Sent from mobile device.


-------- Original message --------
From: "uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io" <chris1011@...>
Date: 3/16/20 1:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

We're flying back tomorrow. I don't anticipate any problems. Ohare is a breeze, get off the plane, head for the bus and we are on the way home. There are no lines coming out of Ohare, it's a straight shot to the Rockford bus.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 15, 2020 3:29 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Thanks Marj Good advice.

Are you and Roland still in Hawaii ?

They were showing the immigration lines in Chicago this morning on the news. The wait is several hours long. Fortunately, when you come home you will not have to go through immigration, but the airport will likely be a circus. On the upside, I expect that after the initial rush of people trying to get into the country from the EU, things will slow down a lot. Your biggest risk will be that they cancel your flight due to lack of travelers. I suppose if you are going to get stuck somewhere I can't think of a better place than Hale Lalani Hoku.

I count myself very lucky. I was scheduled to fly home from Germany on Saturday, but decided on Wednesday to fly home a day early. Luckily I did this a few hours before they announced the travel ban, and I got home OK with surprisingly little problems. I am currently in self-quarantine for 2 weeks.
 
Daleen is planning to ship my upgraded 180 EDT on Monday. If the weather cooperates I hope to spend some time outside with my scope during my quarantine.


Re: Mach2 and APCC last night

Terri Zittritsch
 

Hi Dean, thanks..   It's a very quiet and confidence inspiring piece of equipment.. if that makes sense.     I have to admit that my knowledge of how to make guiding sing isn't consistent with how many years I've been doing this, but then I don't get to do this night night after night; I get to do this what seems like a hand full of nights a year.    I'm hoping to learn more, and maybe now with a piece of equipment that doesn't add too much color, I'll be able to focus on learning to tune the guiding parameters for the current sky conditions versus having to also account for the idiosyncrasies and imperfections of the mount.

T


moderated Re: Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Dale Ghent
 

[citation needed]

On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:48 AM, thefamily90 Phillips <thefamily90@hotmail.com> wrote:

Yesterday more people died from falling down stairs than from Coronavirus

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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Thompson via Groups.Io <cthomp97=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:56:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Please be careful and don't touch anything. Carry hand sanitizer and stay away from people! You all riding the bus worries me. Take care and safe travels!


Thanks,
Charles

Sent from mobile device.


-------- Original message --------
From: "uncarollo2 <chris1011@aol.com> via Groups.Io" <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: 3/16/20 1:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

We're flying back tomorrow. I don't anticipate any problems. Ohare is a breeze, get off the plane, head for the bus and we are on the way home. There are no lines coming out of Ohare, it's a straight shot to the Rockford bus.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@gmail.com>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 15, 2020 3:29 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Thanks Marj Good advice.

Are you and Roland still in Hawaii ?

They were showing the immigration lines in Chicago this morning on the news. The wait is several hours long. Fortunately, when you come home you will not have to go through immigration, but the airport will likely be a circus. On the upside, I expect that after the initial rush of people trying to get into the country from the EU, things will slow down a lot. Your biggest risk will be that they cancel your flight due to lack of travelers. I suppose if you are going to get stuck somewhere I can't think of a better place than Hale Lalani Hoku.

I count myself very lucky. I was scheduled to fly home from Germany on Saturday, but decided on Wednesday to fly home a day early. Luckily I did this a few hours before they announced the travel ban, and I got home OK with surprisingly little problems. I am currently in self-quarantine for 2 weeks.

Daleen is planning to ship my upgraded 180 EDT on Monday. If the weather cooperates I hope to spend some time outside with my scope during my quarantine.


Re: Failed meridian flip with AP1100, APCC Pro, and SGP #APCC

Luca Marinelli
 

Thank you very much, Ray!


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

George
 

Jack,

 

Follow Ray’s advice to a “T”…he is the software guru.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

 

George,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?

Jack Huerkamp


moderated Re: Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Yesterday more people died from falling down stairs than from Coronavirus


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Thompson via Groups.Io <cthomp97@...>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:56:03 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature
 
Please be careful and don't touch anything. Carry hand sanitizer and stay away from people! You all riding the bus worries me. Take care and safe travels!


Thanks,
Charles

Sent from mobile device.


-------- Original message --------
From: "uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io" <chris1011@...>
Date: 3/16/20 1:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

We're flying back tomorrow. I don't anticipate any problems. Ohare is a breeze, get off the plane, head for the bus and we are on the way home. There are no lines coming out of Ohare, it's a straight shot to the Rockford bus.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 15, 2020 3:29 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Thanks Marj Good advice.

Are you and Roland still in Hawaii ?

They were showing the immigration lines in Chicago this morning on the news. The wait is several hours long. Fortunately, when you come home you will not have to go through immigration, but the airport will likely be a circus. On the upside, I expect that after the initial rush of people trying to get into the country from the EU, things will slow down a lot. Your biggest risk will be that they cancel your flight due to lack of travelers. I suppose if you are going to get stuck somewhere I can't think of a better place than Hale Lalani Hoku.

I count myself very lucky. I was scheduled to fly home from Germany on Saturday, but decided on Wednesday to fly home a day early. Luckily I did this a few hours before they announced the travel ban, and I got home OK with surprisingly little problems. I am currently in self-quarantine for 2 weeks.
 
Daleen is planning to ship my upgraded 180 EDT on Monday. If the weather cooperates I hope to spend some time outside with my scope during my quarantine.


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Ray Gralak
 

Jack,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?
No, the config folders are kept in a completely different folder so they won't be affected by uninstalling or even deleting APCC.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 8:19 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

George,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Failed meridian flip with AP1100, APCC Pro, and SGP #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Luca,

I downloaded your files. Thank you!

Unfortunately I won’t be able to look at them until later today but I will get back to you as soon as possible.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luca Marinelli
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 5:28 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Failed meridian flip with AP1100, APCC Pro, and SGP #APCC

Last night my imaging session was aborted when SGP issues a failed meridian flip error due to the the telescope
being on the West side of the pier before and after the flip. I have reported the issue on the SGP forum but I
wanted to make sure that this is not due to an error in configuration of meridian limits in APCC Pro. The mount is
a AP1100 CP4 running APCC Pro 1.8.0.5 with meridian limits setup as in the attached screenshot.

I have uploaded the logs here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ygq207dnm0ue8f/ApccZip-Luca_Marinelli-2020-03-16-081248.zip?dl=0

Thank you for any suggestions you may be able to provide.

Best,

Luca


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Ray Gralak
 

Jack,

You might have moved APCC to a different folder as the installer will overwrite the old version.

First, uninstall all instances of APCC from add/remove folders.

Then download the free "Everything" search tool from voidtools at this link: https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/ . It will quickly find any file(s) on your computer that match a file or pattern you enter. BTW, do not rely on Windows Search to do the same thing as it is buggy on Windows 10.

Type "AstroPhysicsCommandCenter.exe" in Everything's search bar to find all instances of that file and delete the contents of those folders.

Then reinstall APCC Standard V1.8.0.4.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:36 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Bryan,

I just went to the observatory and started the computer. In checking the installed apps, only APCC V1.8.0.4 is
installed. However, there were two shortcuts listed for APCC. One called up V1.8.0.4 and the other called up
V1.6.0.4. So obviously BOTH versions are installed although only the latest is listed. I deleted the shortcut for
V1.6.0 4; however, I would like to clean up the HDD. How would I go about removing the remnants of V1.6.0.4?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Jack Huerkamp
 

George,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Mach2 and APCC last night

Wayne Hixson
 

Excellent report Terri. We had a pretty clear night, but it was fairly breezy, still got better than 0.6" over 4 hours and a low target. I also use APCC meridian limits but in my case it's to cause a flip early. My "postage stamp" observatory on my eastern back deck is partially under my eaves of my house and the mount tracks under the eaves before the meridian. If I flip an hour or so before the meridian i can track over the eaves and get 3 extra hours. I use Voyager software to run everything and it handles centering, guider calibration and control, and focusing so I can sleep a bit - although I do get up just to check every once in a while! Really love the mount so far.

Wayne


Failed meridian flip with AP1100, APCC Pro, and SGP #APCC

Luca Marinelli
 

Last night my imaging session was aborted when SGP issues a failed meridian flip error due to the the telescope being on the West side of the pier before and after the flip. I have reported the issue on the SGP forum but I wanted to make sure that this is not due to an error in configuration of meridian limits in APCC Pro. The mount is a AP1100 CP4 running APCC Pro 1.8.0.5 with meridian limits setup as in the attached screenshot. 

I have uploaded the logs here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ygq207dnm0ue8f/ApccZip-Luca_Marinelli-2020-03-16-081248.zip?dl=0

Thank you for any suggestions you may be able to provide.

Best,

Luca


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

George
 

Jack,

 

Use Windows uninstall to remove APCC and then download a fresh copy and install.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

 

Bryan,

I just went to the observatory and started the computer.  In checking the installed apps, only APCC V1.8.0.4 is installed.  However, there were two shortcuts listed for APCC.  One called up V1.8.0.4 and the other called up V1.6.0.4.  So obviously BOTH versions are installed although only the latest is listed.  I deleted the shortcut for V1.6.0 4; however, I would like to clean up the HDD.  How would I go about removing the remnants of V1.6.0.4?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Mach2 and APCC last night

Dean Jacobsen
 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 07:14 AM, Terri Zittritsch wrote:
The mount was a pure pleasure.  I was able to achieve .5 arc second tracking at 35 degrees above the southern horizon, over my house, and was able to keep it sub .8s at around 23 degrees above the horizon, about as low as I can go and don't typically get to image this low.
Good to hear that things are going good.

I expect that as you fine tune the parameters of the guiding software and you move to targets higher in the sky you will see substantially better guiding results.  My relatively low tech 900GTOCP3 consistently guides better than than 0.5" RMS in each axis over 4 or 5 hour runs as reported in the PHD2 logs.  0.5" RMS is a "bad" seeing night or I am low in the southern sky.  Other nights are much better. Some of my recent logs show <0.35" RMS for each axis over 4+ hour runs [interrupted for meridian flips].

The ability to get tighter guiding and faster settling times after dithers [required with my camera] is the reason I sprung for a new mount.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Jack Huerkamp
 

Bryan,

I just went to the observatory and started the computer.  In checking the installed apps, only APCC V1.8.0.4 is installed.  However, there were two shortcuts listed for APCC.  One called up V1.8.0.4 and the other called up V1.6.0.4.  So obviously BOTH versions are installed although only the latest is listed.  I deleted the shortcut for V1.6.0 4; however, I would like to clean up the HDD.  How would I go about removing the remnants of V1.6.0.4?

Jack Huerkamp


Mach2 and APCC last night

Terri Zittritsch
 
Edited

Finally a clear dark sky (not a hazy moon filled sky with clear spots) and I was able to use the mach2 from 8pm until around 2:30am (just before mooonrise).    The mount was a pure pleasure.  I was able to achieve .5 arc second guiding at 35 degrees above the southern horizon, over my house, and was able to keep it sub .8s at around 23 degrees above the horizon, about as low as I can go and don't typically get to image this low.      Later in the evening, or rather early in the morning, I went back to a higher target nearer the zenith and went to a sub .5 guiding.    I don't think I lost any frames all night due to guiding.    

The other thing I enjoyed was using APCC as the control center to make use of the meridian limits, which I created earlier with the interactive APCC meridian limits editor.   The process of creating the limits was easier than my interpretation from the manual.    The mount started both of my targets with weight-up, without any added thinking or setup on my part once the meridian limits were in place.   For me it's the east limits that I can make most use of to avoid an meridian flip.   More a time saver than anything else since it avoids an extra plate solve, focusing.   

Thought I'd provide a positive update since I originally said the results weren't as expected.

Also, on polar aligning, don't know what happened on my original testing, utilizing polemaster for polar alignment.  On subsequent nights I've used polemaster I've gotten pretty good results of an arc minute or better accuracy to the pole. 

Terri


Re: Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

George
 

Tony,

 

You’re most welcome.   Enjoy!

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Benjamin
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 5:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

 

Thank George,

 

I set that up now. J

 

 

Tony

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of George
Sent: March 15, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

 

Tony,

 

APCC has a Home tab where you can establish a Home position.   All you have to do is click the Home button and you are fixed.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Benjamin
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

 

Hi Peter,

Thanks. I'll give that a go - I was hoping that there would be something more automated for this - but I guess having AE's would solve this issue?


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Worsel
 

Jack

A simple 'fix' would be to just the delete the icon, then create a new link based on the 1.8 executable.  I had to do that for the taskbar icon which I use rather than Start menu icons

Bryan

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