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Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

George
 

Jack,

 

Follow Ray’s advice to a “T”…he is the software guru.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 10:19 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

 

George,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?

Jack Huerkamp


moderated Re: Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Yesterday more people died from falling down stairs than from Coronavirus


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Charles Thompson via Groups.Io <cthomp97@...>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:56:03 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature
 
Please be careful and don't touch anything. Carry hand sanitizer and stay away from people! You all riding the bus worries me. Take care and safe travels!


Thanks,
Charles

Sent from mobile device.


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From: "uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io" <chris1011@...>
Date: 3/16/20 1:34 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

We're flying back tomorrow. I don't anticipate any problems. Ohare is a breeze, get off the plane, head for the bus and we are on the way home. There are no lines coming out of Ohare, it's a straight shot to the Rockford bus.
 
Rolando
 
 
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From: M Hambrick <mhambrick563@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Mar 15, 2020 3:29 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Time to enjoy astronomy and nature

Thanks Marj Good advice.

Are you and Roland still in Hawaii ?

They were showing the immigration lines in Chicago this morning on the news. The wait is several hours long. Fortunately, when you come home you will not have to go through immigration, but the airport will likely be a circus. On the upside, I expect that after the initial rush of people trying to get into the country from the EU, things will slow down a lot. Your biggest risk will be that they cancel your flight due to lack of travelers. I suppose if you are going to get stuck somewhere I can't think of a better place than Hale Lalani Hoku.

I count myself very lucky. I was scheduled to fly home from Germany on Saturday, but decided on Wednesday to fly home a day early. Luckily I did this a few hours before they announced the travel ban, and I got home OK with surprisingly little problems. I am currently in self-quarantine for 2 weeks.
 
Daleen is planning to ship my upgraded 180 EDT on Monday. If the weather cooperates I hope to spend some time outside with my scope during my quarantine.


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Ray Gralak
 

Jack,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?
No, the config folders are kept in a completely different folder so they won't be affected by uninstalling or even deleting APCC.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 8:19 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

George,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Failed meridian flip with AP1100, APCC Pro, and SGP #APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Luca,

I downloaded your files. Thank you!

Unfortunately I won’t be able to look at them until later today but I will get back to you as soon as possible.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luca Marinelli
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 5:28 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Failed meridian flip with AP1100, APCC Pro, and SGP #APCC

Last night my imaging session was aborted when SGP issues a failed meridian flip error due to the the telescope
being on the West side of the pier before and after the flip. I have reported the issue on the SGP forum but I
wanted to make sure that this is not due to an error in configuration of meridian limits in APCC Pro. The mount is
a AP1100 CP4 running APCC Pro 1.8.0.5 with meridian limits setup as in the attached screenshot.

I have uploaded the logs here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ygq207dnm0ue8f/ApccZip-Luca_Marinelli-2020-03-16-081248.zip?dl=0

Thank you for any suggestions you may be able to provide.

Best,

Luca


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Ray Gralak
 

Jack,

You might have moved APCC to a different folder as the installer will overwrite the old version.

First, uninstall all instances of APCC from add/remove folders.

Then download the free "Everything" search tool from voidtools at this link: https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/ . It will quickly find any file(s) on your computer that match a file or pattern you enter. BTW, do not rely on Windows Search to do the same thing as it is buggy on Windows 10.

Type "AstroPhysicsCommandCenter.exe" in Everything's search bar to find all instances of that file and delete the contents of those folders.

Then reinstall APCC Standard V1.8.0.4.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 7:36 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Bryan,

I just went to the observatory and started the computer. In checking the installed apps, only APCC V1.8.0.4 is
installed. However, there were two shortcuts listed for APCC. One called up V1.8.0.4 and the other called up
V1.6.0.4. So obviously BOTH versions are installed although only the latest is listed. I deleted the shortcut for
V1.6.0 4; however, I would like to clean up the HDD. How would I go about removing the remnants of V1.6.0.4?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Jack Huerkamp
 

George,

If I do this, won't the remocal also eliminate my virtual ports and I will have to then recreate them?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Mach2 and APCC last night

Wayne Hixson
 

Excellent report Terri. We had a pretty clear night, but it was fairly breezy, still got better than 0.6" over 4 hours and a low target. I also use APCC meridian limits but in my case it's to cause a flip early. My "postage stamp" observatory on my eastern back deck is partially under my eaves of my house and the mount tracks under the eaves before the meridian. If I flip an hour or so before the meridian i can track over the eaves and get 3 extra hours. I use Voyager software to run everything and it handles centering, guider calibration and control, and focusing so I can sleep a bit - although I do get up just to check every once in a while! Really love the mount so far.

Wayne


Failed meridian flip with AP1100, APCC Pro, and SGP #APCC

Luca Marinelli
 

Last night my imaging session was aborted when SGP issues a failed meridian flip error due to the the telescope being on the West side of the pier before and after the flip. I have reported the issue on the SGP forum but I wanted to make sure that this is not due to an error in configuration of meridian limits in APCC Pro. The mount is a AP1100 CP4 running APCC Pro 1.8.0.5 with meridian limits setup as in the attached screenshot. 

I have uploaded the logs here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ygq207dnm0ue8f/ApccZip-Luca_Marinelli-2020-03-16-081248.zip?dl=0

Thank you for any suggestions you may be able to provide.

Best,

Luca


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

George
 

Jack,

 

Use Windows uninstall to remove APCC and then download a fresh copy and install.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 9:36 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

 

Bryan,

I just went to the observatory and started the computer.  In checking the installed apps, only APCC V1.8.0.4 is installed.  However, there were two shortcuts listed for APCC.  One called up V1.8.0.4 and the other called up V1.6.0.4.  So obviously BOTH versions are installed although only the latest is listed.  I deleted the shortcut for V1.6.0 4; however, I would like to clean up the HDD.  How would I go about removing the remnants of V1.6.0.4?

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Mach2 and APCC last night

Dean Jacobsen
 

On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 07:14 AM, Terri Zittritsch wrote:
The mount was a pure pleasure.  I was able to achieve .5 arc second tracking at 35 degrees above the southern horizon, over my house, and was able to keep it sub .8s at around 23 degrees above the horizon, about as low as I can go and don't typically get to image this low.
Good to hear that things are going good.

I expect that as you fine tune the parameters of the guiding software and you move to targets higher in the sky you will see substantially better guiding results.  My relatively low tech 900GTOCP3 consistently guides better than than 0.5" RMS in each axis over 4 or 5 hour runs as reported in the PHD2 logs.  0.5" RMS is a "bad" seeing night or I am low in the southern sky.  Other nights are much better. Some of my recent logs show <0.35" RMS for each axis over 4+ hour runs [interrupted for meridian flips].

The ability to get tighter guiding and faster settling times after dithers [required with my camera] is the reason I sprung for a new mount.
--
Dean Jacobsen
http://astrophoto.net/wp/ 
Image Gallery - http://astrophoto.net/wp/image-gallery/
Astrobin - https://www.astrobin.com/users/deanjacobsen/ 


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Jack Huerkamp
 

Bryan,

I just went to the observatory and started the computer.  In checking the installed apps, only APCC V1.8.0.4 is installed.  However, there were two shortcuts listed for APCC.  One called up V1.8.0.4 and the other called up V1.6.0.4.  So obviously BOTH versions are installed although only the latest is listed.  I deleted the shortcut for V1.6.0 4; however, I would like to clean up the HDD.  How would I go about removing the remnants of V1.6.0.4?

Jack Huerkamp


Mach2 and APCC last night

Terri Zittritsch
 
Edited

Finally a clear dark sky (not a hazy moon filled sky with clear spots) and I was able to use the mach2 from 8pm until around 2:30am (just before mooonrise).    The mount was a pure pleasure.  I was able to achieve .5 arc second guiding at 35 degrees above the southern horizon, over my house, and was able to keep it sub .8s at around 23 degrees above the horizon, about as low as I can go and don't typically get to image this low.      Later in the evening, or rather early in the morning, I went back to a higher target nearer the zenith and went to a sub .5 guiding.    I don't think I lost any frames all night due to guiding.    

The other thing I enjoyed was using APCC as the control center to make use of the meridian limits, which I created earlier with the interactive APCC meridian limits editor.   The process of creating the limits was easier than my interpretation from the manual.    The mount started both of my targets with weight-up, without any added thinking or setup on my part once the meridian limits were in place.   For me it's the east limits that I can make most use of to avoid an meridian flip.   More a time saver than anything else since it avoids an extra plate solve, focusing.   

Thought I'd provide a positive update since I originally said the results weren't as expected.

Also, on polar aligning, don't know what happened on my original testing, utilizing polemaster for polar alignment.  On subsequent nights I've used polemaster I've gotten pretty good results of an arc minute or better accuracy to the pole. 

Terri


Re: Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

George
 

Tony,

 

You’re most welcome.   Enjoy!

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Benjamin
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 5:51 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

 

Thank George,

 

I set that up now. J

 

 

Tony

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of George
Sent: March 15, 2020 1:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

 

Tony,

 

APCC has a Home tab where you can establish a Home position.   All you have to do is click the Home button and you are fixed.  

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Benjamin
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 9:40 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mount Not Going To Park Position 3?

 

Hi Peter,

Thanks. I'll give that a go - I was hoping that there would be something more automated for this - but I guess having AE's would solve this issue?


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Worsel
 

Jack

A simple 'fix' would be to just the delete the icon, then create a new link based on the 1.8 executable.  I had to do that for the taskbar icon which I use rather than Start menu icons

Bryan


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Jack,

Is it possible that the icon on the start menu is linked to V1.6 even though V1.8 is installed? I would have
assumed that upgrading V1.6 to V1.8 would link the start menu icon to V1.8.
The installer installs the executable over the old version, so if the old version (V1.6) was not shut down completely then V1.8 will not be able to copy over the existing version. I just tried this myself this morning and you will see warning messages from the installer if that happened. The installer worked correctly when I tested it and the correct version (V1.8.0.4) gets downloaded. The version number is in the executable itself, not the link. So, unless you copied the executable to a new folder there should not be two links.

One possibility is that your antivirus software is preventing the installation. Kaspersky seems to be the worst at that.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 6:21 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Ray,

I started APCC from the icon on my start menu and saw that an update was available. I downloaded the update,
shut down APCC and installed the update. I then clicked on the APCC icon on the start menu and it indicated
that the latest version was installed. I used the latest version to control the mount. I shut down the computer and
closed up the observatory. Later last night, I went back out, started the computer and clicked on the APCC icon in
the start menu. V1.6... started. I repeated the steps to upgrade the program, started APCC and V1.8... started. I
used it to control the mount. Before retiring for the night, I shut down APCC, restarted it and V1.6... had returned.

Is it possible that the icon on the start menu is linked to V1.6 even though V1.8 is installed? I would have
assumed that upgrading V1.6 to V1.8 would link the start menu icon to V1.8.

I will go out and search the installed programs to see if both versions of APCC are installed.

Yours truly,

Jack Huerkamp


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Jack Huerkamp
 

Ray,

I started APCC from the icon on my start menu and saw that an update was available.  I downloaded the update, shut down APCC and installed the update.  I then clicked on the APCC icon on the start menu and it indicated that the latest version was installed.  I used the latest version to control the mount.  I shut down the computer and closed up the observatory.  Later last night, I went back out, started the computer and clicked on the APCC icon in the start menu.  V1.6... started.  I repeated the steps to upgrade the program, started APCC and V1.8... started.  I used it to control the mount.  Before retiring for the night, I shut down APCC, restarted it and V1.6... had returned. 

Is it possible that the icon on the start menu is linked to V1.6 even though V1.8 is installed?  I would have assumed that upgrading V1.6 to V1.8 would link the start menu icon to V1.8.

I will go out and search the installed programs to see if both versions of APCC are installed.

Yours truly,

Jack Huerkamp


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Jack Huerkamp
 

Brian,

I will go out to the observatory and check to see if I have both versions installed.  I naturally assumed that when I was prompted to upgrade from V1.6 to 1.8, the old version would be removed and replaced with the current one.  That is how most of my other software upgrades function.

I will let you know what I discover.

Thanks,

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Black Bar Across Image (ML16200)

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 

Hi AJ,

Thanks, I'll give that a go :)

Tony


Re: APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Jack,

Brian's advice is correct. Please check add/remove programs in Windows to make sure that you don't have APCC installed twice.

Also, APCC's check for updates just provides a link to download the installer. After you download V1.8.0.4 you will need to shutdown APCC and run the installer. If you didn't do that all you did was download V1.8.0.4 but V1.6.0.4 was still installed!

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jack Huerkamp
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 7:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC V1.8.0.4 Upgrade

I have APCC Standard V1.6.0.4 installed on my computer and today I updated to V1.8.0.4. I ran the mount, looked
at the Sun, shut down everything and tonight I went back to my observatory. When I started APCC it said a new
version was available (V1.8.0.4) and when I checked the version I had on my computer, it was back to V1.6.0.4.
Somehow the newly installed version got erased. So I reinstalled V1.8.0.4, connected the mount to SkyTools, had
the program guide me to several targets and then I shut everything down. Before closing up I restarted APCC -
again it was at V1.6.0.4.

How do I get the current version to not get removed after shutting down the program? This is getting annoying!

Jack Huerkamp


Re: Black Bar Across Image (ML16200)

A J Trotta
 

I am late to this discussion so I apologize if this has already been suggested. I have an Sbig 8300 stf . I had the same problem with light frames . Sbig suggested I delete the driver and re install .  Problem solved and has not recurred.

Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App



------ Original Message ------

From: Bill Long
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Sent: March 15, 2020 at 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Black Bar Across Image (ML16200)

Okay. That is odd. How is the camera being powered?


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2020 3:52 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Black Bar Across Image (ML16200)
 
So far, I have only seen it with Light Frames. I ran a fresh set of Bias/Darks and no sign of the black bar. 

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