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Re: Benefits of MG Box V2

Worsel
 

Wayne

If you have APCC Pro, see section 5.17 in the manual for some of the benefits.

Bryan


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Thanks Rolando! I will call George tomorrow. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 5:03 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Testing Park3 is definitely a good idea. For any new startups I generally run the mount thru all park positions before going to any object.
 
If Venus coordinates are correct, then something else is wrong. Probably not battery or database. I suggest getting in touch with George at AP and having him advise some other tests. You could very easily have one of your settings of time, date, location wrong, something that isn't obvious to you but may be to a second person. It's happened to me when I had the clock set to 3 o-clock, forgetting that it should have been 15:00 hours.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 10:50 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

I would still perform the easy test of sending it to park 3 to see what happens.


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 10:38 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Okay - have confirmed that I have the right Lat/Long and the keypad has the right values for , say, Venus but claims it is below the horizon when I issue the slew command via the keypad. That's after confirming it is in Park 4 and knows it is in Park 4. 

So ... new battery (I have one in hand that I ordered, worried about this happening) and reload the db?


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 15:03, Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Thanks Rolando. I will check that too. Just got home. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
bring up an object but before sending it there press the < button to see the object data. If it looks wrong, it could be that your keypad battery has died and you will need to re-load the database plus put in a new battery.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/
--

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Benefits of MG Box V2

Wayne Hixson
 

Ray, Rolando -

What features of the MG Box V2 does APCC or other A-P hardware/software take advantage of? Such as GPS or barometric information 

Wayne


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Roland Christen
 

Testing Park3 is definitely a good idea. For any new startups I generally run the mount thru all park positions before going to any object.
 
If Venus coordinates are correct, then something else is wrong. Probably not battery or database. I suggest getting in touch with George at AP and having him advise some other tests. You could very easily have one of your settings of time, date, location wrong, something that isn't obvious to you but may be to a second person. It's happened to me when I had the clock set to 3 o-clock, forgetting that it should have been 15:00 hours.
 
Rolando
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 10:50 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

I would still perform the easy test of sending it to park 3 to see what happens.


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 10:38 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Okay - have confirmed that I have the right Lat/Long and the keypad has the right values for , say, Venus but claims it is below the horizon when I issue the slew command via the keypad. That's after confirming it is in Park 4 and knows it is in Park 4. 

So ... new battery (I have one in hand that I ordered, worried about this happening) and reload the db?


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 15:03, Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Thanks Rolando. I will check that too. Just got home. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
bring up an object but before sending it there press the < button to see the object data. If it looks wrong, it could be that your keypad battery has died and you will need to re-load the database plus put in a new battery.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/
--

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

I did that and it went correctly to Park 3. Should have mentioned that. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:50 PM Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
I would still perform the easy test of sending it to park 3 to see what happens.



-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 10:38 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Okay - have confirmed that I have the right Lat/Long and the keypad has the right values for , say, Venus but claims it is below the horizon when I issue the slew command via the keypad. That's after confirming it is in Park 4 and knows it is in Park 4. 

So ... new battery (I have one in hand that I ordered, worried about this happening) and reload the db?


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 15:03, Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Thanks Rolando. I will check that too. Just got home. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
bring up an object but before sending it there press the < button to see the object data. If it looks wrong, it could be that your keypad battery has died and you will need to re-load the database plus put in a new battery.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Christopher Erickson
 

I would still perform the easy test of sending it to park 3 to see what happens.


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 10:38 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Okay - have confirmed that I have the right Lat/Long and the keypad has the right values for , say, Venus but claims it is below the horizon when I issue the slew command via the keypad. That's after confirming it is in Park 4 and knows it is in Park 4. 

So ... new battery (I have one in hand that I ordered, worried about this happening) and reload the db?


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 15:03, Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Thanks Rolando. I will check that too. Just got home. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
bring up an object but before sending it there press the < button to see the object data. If it looks wrong, it could be that your keypad battery has died and you will need to re-load the database plus put in a new battery.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Okay - have confirmed that I have the right Lat/Long and the keypad has the right values for , say, Venus but claims it is below the horizon when I issue the slew command via the keypad. That's after confirming it is in Park 4 and knows it is in Park 4. 

So ... new battery (I have one in hand that I ordered, worried about this happening) and reload the db?


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 15:03, Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Thanks Rolando. I will check that too. Just got home. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
bring up an object but before sending it there press the < button to see the object data. If it looks wrong, it could be that your keypad battery has died and you will need to re-load the database plus put in a new battery.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Thanks Rolando. I will check that too. Just got home. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:01 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
bring up an object but before sending it there press the < button to see the object data. If it looks wrong, it could be that your keypad battery has died and you will need to re-load the database plus put in a new battery.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Roland Christen
 

bring up an object but before sending it there press the < button to see the object data. If it looks wrong, it could be that your keypad battery has died and you will need to re-load the database plus put in a new battery.
 
Rolando
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Mar 12, 2020 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Gregg, I will check that. Great suggestion. 

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:45 PM Gregg Ruppel <ruppel0709@...> wrote:
Stuart:
Make sure that the driver has the correct Longitude; I seem to recall having a similar problem when moving my AP900 to a new location and the longitude kept reverting to East instead of West.  I think I had to rename the location and save with a power off.
Clear skies,

Gregg
Visit my astronomy & astrophotography site
http://www.greggsastronomy.com/
On 3/12/2020 9:25 AM, Stuart wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 


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Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Gregg Ruppel
 

Stuart:
Make sure that the driver has the correct Longitude; I seem to recall having a similar problem when moving my AP900 to a new location and the longitude kept reverting to East instead of West.  I think I had to rename the location and save with a power off.
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On 3/12/2020 9:25 AM, Stuart wrote:

All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


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Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Interesting possibility. I woke up in the night thinking that very thing but confirmed this morning that I'm indeed using Park 4. (I started using Park 1 with tracking off with the same result and then switched to Park 4).


On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 13:06, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:
Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


--

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http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Christopher Erickson
 

Try sending it to Park 3 and see where it goes. Maybe you have misremembered Park 4...


-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 6:25 AM Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Dumb(?) question re start-up of my AP900GTO CP4

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

All - my AP900GTO CP4 has been idle for over a year and with power OFF. I am putting it back into operation and am having a weird time getting the scope to find targets (like at all).
  • When I power up, the hand controller signals that I am set to EXT and to hit MENU to use the hand controller. I do that.
  • Then it prompts for my Location (I only have one): I select '1' and GOTO
  • I checked the Lat/Long and it is my home location. I adjusted it very slightly as the mount is in a slightly different location than it was).
  • I checked the Time and Date and they were off by a few days (odd?) - I corrected them both.
  • At this point, I loosen both clutches fully, signal I want the mount to go to Park 4 and hold the mount while it whirs away and when it is done, I use a bubble level to position it in Park 4. I tighten the clutches gently, issue a second Park 4 command, check the level then lock in down firmly (hand tightening only of course)
THEN the weird part: I hit menu till I'm at the top menu, I select Object then pick some object I know is up in the sky (I'm in a dome shielded from any risk of pointing at the sun and the scope is covered anyway). Let's pick Venus for example (tho it failed on the moon when the moon was up also). In most cases the hand controller declares the object I can see naked eye (Venus, the Moon, Betelgeuse, ...) is below the horizon. Or it slews and slews way off the target.

Is it possible my hand controller db is corrupted from the long time powered down? 

--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Mach1 Unable to Find Home Position Suddenly

Mikko Viljamaa
 

Correct, Home = Park 3. And yes, none of the position values or time changed after the re-installation but for some reason the issue is gone at least for now.


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Re: Notified!😍 #mach2gto #Mach2GTO

Terri Zittritsch
 

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 02:44 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> wrote:
You should be able to get polar alignment good enough and keep it so with a solid tripod. Once aligned, I have not seen a tripod change the polar alignment.
 
Good polar alignment for imaging should result in Dec drift of 1 arc sec per 10 minutes at the meridian. If you also drift align the RA at the zenith, you should then also get 1 arc sec or better drift in 10 minutes for up to 2 hours on either side of the zenith. In PHD2 you can monitor your drift using the Trend Lines. You can then make tiny adjustments to the Alt and Az while watching the trend Lines and eventually zero in on perfect PA. Do the Azimuth first until the Dec line becomes flat - ignore the RA. Then tweak the Altitude until the RA line becomes flat. Do it on an overhead star. You might have to iterate a couple of times to get both Trend lines flat for at least 5 minutes. 
 
Thank you Rolando, I will give it a try next time I'm out.  You know, whenever I setup, I wonder just how stable things are.   My tripods by themselves are generally stable    But if for instance, a tripod foot settles 1mm, this can result in a 4 arc minute change in the polar pointing (referring to C. Woodhouse in the Astrophotography manual), I haven't done the calculations myself to validate this, but seems reasonable given the minuet changes required to get polar aligned (present incredibly poor accuracy aside).   Now that I've looked into it a bit, seems many people get amazingly good polar alignment results and not sure why mine is off so much (indicating as much as 5 minutes off the pole) when I am very careful in the process.     And just thinking about what it's doing, I'm not sure what could drive the inaccuracy except an incorrect refractive compensation.    In any case, some work for me to do.   Thanks again.


Re: Mach1 Unable to Find Home Position Suddenly

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Mikko,

I'm glad the problem is solved but I don't think that re-installing the driver had anything to do with that. The driver has fixed Hour angle/Declination positions for the park positions which would not have changed by reinstalling the driver.

BTW, when you say "Home Position", did you mean "Park Position"? With APCC you can define a home position but the AP V2 ASCOM driver doesn't have a "find home" feature.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mikko Viljamaa
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 5:00 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 Unable to Find Home Position Suddenly

Just an update. I "played" with the mount today and more I slew it, the further it missed the home position. Then I
uninstalled and reinstalled the driver and the problem disappeared. I slew it half a dozen times and every time it
returned home correctly. Go figure...


- Mikko


Re: Mach1 Unable to Find Home Position Suddenly

Mikko Viljamaa
 

Just an update. I "played" with the mount today and more I slew it, the further it missed the home position. Then I uninstalled and reinstalled the driver and the problem disappeared. I slew it half a dozen times and every time it returned home correctly. Go figure...


- Mikko

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