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Re: Declination gets locked

Steve Salvo
 

I’m not sure of the model mount you have, but on my mount, the 900, the friction pads under the clutch locks can depress and warp, actually hindering the movement of the axis. AP has a special tool to remove the pads. This happens by over tightening the clutches.

Steve

On Mar 1, 2020, at 20:36, Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@gmail.com> wrote:

After a nights session , after unlocking the clutches it takes much strength to initially move the dec axis , have no problem to slew or track only to initiate rotation it requires an effort and then I feel it giving way and able to rotate it . Are the gears binding ? Unlikely bcos I can even feel a discrete backlash . Everything is greased as well . Pls let me know ur thoughts
Suresh



New APCC and ASCOM versions

 

The download page for the newest versions of APCC has been uploaded with the correct links. I apologize for the confusion regarding the version numbers on the webpage a couple of days ago.

 

Important: you must install the newest version of the ASCOM V2 driver v5.30.07 from https://www.gralak.com/apdriver/

 

Note that a new safety park feature requires CP4 version P02-02 or later. This version is not quite ready for release for the CP4.  We are presently testing it. This feature is functional for the GTOCP5 that is used exclusively by the Mach2.

 

Have fun!

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 


M106

steven ho
 

AP-1600AE, CDK17 &F LI16803

Finally clear skies during the new moon.


Re: Plate Solve Options for APPM - Must You Use SGP??

Bill Long
 

I believe Ray is working on getting ASTAP added, which will alleviate these issues regardless of which imaging software people are using. It will be a welcome change for sure.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 8:02 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Plate Solve Options for APPM - Must You Use SGP??
 

Voyager would be nice as well!!

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Townsend
Sent: March 1, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Plate Solve Options for APPM - Must You Use SGP??

 

Hey Ray,

I hope one day you can add another astrophotography program that can be used with APPM. I'm tired of spending downtime with SGP. Maybe N.I.N.A would be another additional option. Very impressive program with good work flow and does it all. Plate solving with N.I.N.A and freeware ASTAP is quick without hang-ups. I'm sure it will only get better in the near future.

Thanks.


MGBox V2 Astromi.ch

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 
Edited

I made a video (its my first…go easy) on the installation/use of the MGBox V2 for APPC APPM. Any errors that need correcting would be welcome. I’d like to make some more videos as time goes on to try and help with some of the mysteries with APPC (at least to meJ ) and Astrophotography in general. Baby steps J

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBs-nJlFMjQ


Re: Plate Solve Options for APPM - Must You Use SGP??

 

>>> Plate solving with N.I.N.A and freeware ASTAP is quick without hang-ups

FYI SGP uses ASTAP as well. 

if you aren't already using it i agree it's much faster



On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 8:01 PM Mark Townsend <albertawow@...> wrote:
Hey Ray,

I hope one day you can add another astrophotography program that can be used with APPM. I'm tired of spending downtime with SGP. Maybe N.I.N.A would be another additional option. Very impressive program with good work flow and does it all. Plate solving with N.I.N.A and freeware ASTAP is quick without hang-ups. I'm sure it will only get better in the near future.

Thanks.



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Plate Solve Options for APPM - Must You Use SGP??

Tony Benjamin <tonybenjamin@...>
 

Voyager would be nice as well!!

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Townsend
Sent: March 1, 2020 2:40 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Plate Solve Options for APPM - Must You Use SGP??

 

Hey Ray,

I hope one day you can add another astrophotography program that can be used with APPM. I'm tired of spending downtime with SGP. Maybe N.I.N.A would be another additional option. Very impressive program with good work flow and does it all. Plate solving with N.I.N.A and freeware ASTAP is quick without hang-ups. I'm sure it will only get better in the near future.

Thanks.


Re: Plate Solve Options for APPM - Must You Use SGP??

Mark Townsend
 

Hey Ray,

I hope one day you can add another astrophotography program that can be used with APPM. I'm tired of spending downtime with SGP. Maybe N.I.N.A would be another additional option. Very impressive program with good work flow and does it all. Plate solving with N.I.N.A and freeware ASTAP is quick without hang-ups. I'm sure it will only get better in the near future.

Thanks.


Re: Declination gets locked

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Suresh,
 
    Has the DEC always seemed a bit more sticky than the RA rotation ?
 
    I wonder if it is just because the OTA momentum is much lighter  than the counterweights,  offsetting the momentum on the RA swing. For the “same amount” of axial friction on your well greased axles, pushing the well-(fore/aft) balanced OTA, might present more friction, whereas there may be more momentum when you push the same OTA & CWTS,  about the RA axis.
 
    Once the RA direction gets going, the scope might seem easier to push further. Not the same case  rotating the tube vertically on the DEC axis, unless there is a humongous CCD camera at one end  of the balanced OTA, to add some momentum like the CWTS do , once initial DEC axle stiction is overcome.
 
    Mechanically, there should be absolutely no difference in the smoothness of either axle, once the clutch brakes are released – the gears aren’t involved at that point.
 
    Just a thought.
Joe Z.


Re: Declination gets locked

 

Hi Suresh,

yes I understand. both axis work the same re: the clutches. 

my ap1600 is also stiff/sticky regarding balancing, not sure if that's just the way it is. 



On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 6:19 PM Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:
Yes of course Brian , I’ve no issues with RA , it’s just the DEC - I  get a jammed feeling at start , the effort required is abnormal 
Suresh 


On 02-Mar-2020, at 7:37 AM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:


Hi Suresh

if you are unlocking the clutches and moving the axis, your movements are independent of the gearing, so the gears/backlash/mesh would not impact your movements in any way. 

maybe make sure you completely loosen the clutch


Brian

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 5:36 PM Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:
After a nights session , after unlocking the clutches it takes much strength to initially move the dec axis , have no problem to slew or track only to initiate rotation it requires an effort and then I feel it giving way and able to rotate it . Are the gears binding ? Unlikely bcos I can even feel a discrete backlash .  Everything is greased as well . Pls let me know ur thoughts
Suresh





--
Brian 



Brian Valente



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Declination gets locked

Suresh Mohan
 

Yes of course Brian , I’ve no issues with RA , it’s just the DEC - I  get a jammed feeling at start , the effort required is abnormal 
Suresh 


On 02-Mar-2020, at 7:37 AM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:


Hi Suresh

if you are unlocking the clutches and moving the axis, your movements are independent of the gearing, so the gears/backlash/mesh would not impact your movements in any way. 

maybe make sure you completely loosen the clutch


Brian

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 5:36 PM Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:
After a nights session , after unlocking the clutches it takes much strength to initially move the dec axis , have no problem to slew or track only to initiate rotation it requires an effort and then I feel it giving way and able to rotate it . Are the gears binding ? Unlikely bcos I can even feel a discrete backlash .  Everything is greased as well . Pls let me know ur thoughts
Suresh





--
Brian 



Brian Valente


LMDAP4567 vs SBDAPB

sroberts84
 

Hello,
Hoping to get some confirmation for the following, please::

Is the SBDAP riser block set required to mount rings for an AP 130mm f6 StarFire EDFS to the LMDAP4567 dovetail plate?

Thanks..,

S Roberts



Re: Declination gets locked

 

Hi Suresh

if you are unlocking the clutches and moving the axis, your movements are independent of the gearing, so the gears/backlash/mesh would not impact your movements in any way. 

maybe make sure you completely loosen the clutch


Brian

On Sun, Mar 1, 2020 at 5:36 PM Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:
After a nights session , after unlocking the clutches it takes much strength to initially move the dec axis , have no problem to slew or track only to initiate rotation it requires an effort and then I feel it giving way and able to rotate it . Are the gears binding ? Unlikely bcos I can even feel a discrete backlash .  Everything is greased as well . Pls let me know ur thoughts
Suresh





--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Declination gets locked

Suresh Mohan
 

After a nights session , after unlocking the clutches it takes much strength to initially move the dec axis , have no problem to slew or track only to initiate rotation it requires an effort and then I feel it giving way and able to rotate it . Are the gears binding ? Unlikely bcos I can even feel a discrete backlash . Everything is greased as well . Pls let me know ur thoughts
Suresh


New SkyAlert ASCOM driver

Yves Laroche
 

Hi all,

For those of you using SkyAlert (https://interactiveastronomy.com) has a cloud detector, they just release their new ASCOM driver.

If your unit has barometric pressure sensor, it could be a great add-on for APCC (Settings --> Environmental Settings) to get that valuable data to help correct for refraction in real time.

Regards,
Yves 


Re: APCC v1.8.0.2/3 Standard and Pro available for download (WAS: Re : [ap-gto] APCC Pro version 1.8.0.0)

Yves Laroche
 

Hi Ray,

You might think that I was a little bit confused yesterday...

I was at the observatory in doing updates and found that the ASCOM driver had an update (popup message) so updated the driver.  Check also with APCC just in case but nothing.  Decided to visit the Astro-Physics web site and saw that there was an APCC update (1.8.0.0) but unable to download and let you know on this forum.  I was able to download later on (popup message) but was intrigued why you never sent a message to this group as usual.

From one of your answer to Bill Long today I noticed the previous post he sent you about the message titled APCC v1.8.0.2/3 Standard and Pro available for download.

I never received a post titled APCC v1.8.0.2/3 Standard and Pro available for download.until today so was more confused.

In login to Groups.io I just saw what was the problem.  Yesterday, I never received messages that was written from you even from Bill Long so never knew that ASCOM/APCC were updated.

Here are the messages that were never sent to me
https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/message/68652
https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/message/68654 from Bill Long
https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/message/68651

It's very weird that Groups.io filtered out message from you.  Just let you know...

Best regards,
Yves




Le 29/02/20 20:07, Yves Laroche <yves.laroche@...> a écrit :
Tonight my beta version of APCC detects version 1.8.0.3. 

Thanks Ray !!!

Regards,
Yves



Le 29/02/20 16:36, Yves Laroche <yves.laroche@...> a écrit :
Hi Marj, Roland, Ray,

The Astro-Physics web site is referring to APCC version 1.8.0.0 (February 27, 2020) but linked to APCC 1.7.1.5.

My beta version 1.7.2.5 didn't detect the update...


Regards,
Yves


Re: AP V2 ASCOM driver v5.30.07 available for download

Worsel
 

Ray

New driver andnew  APCC Pro both installed and functional without issue.

Thanks!

Bryan


Re: Pdf in french and APCC v1.8.0.x

Dominique Durand
 
Edited

Thanks Ray,
For the installation of V1.8.0.2 APCC-Std, I did several tests with file deletion, I finally disabled my AntiVirus (Kapersky) and it worked So OK and it allowed me to see the Park5 was well included.
OK to wait for Majr's agreement and thanks for Pempro.
I can't wait to test my mach2 ...


Re: Balancing the scope

Steven
 

Wayne, if you use a cheap electronic luggage scale, like a fish scale but with a readout into one decimal place, you can do a really precision job on the balancing, and even if you want to make it heavier on the east, you can measure and determine it very accurately and quickly.

Steve
NZ


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Wayne Hixson via Groups.Io <wayneh9026@...>
Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2020 11:00 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Balancing the scope
 

Hi Brian, welcome. I’m on my 4th A-P mount over the past 18 years and love them. Passed the first three on to friends and they’re still running like clockwork. Mach 2 (my FINAL mount 😀) on the way. 

the clutches are a bit stiff, so that’s normal. Others may have suggestions, but I just loosen the bolts maybe 2-3 turns and then adjust the weights/scope position so a gentle shove in both directions on each axis moves them about the same distance. I haven’t found a need to be more accurate than that. Another method I’ve heard is to use a fish scale and adjust the positions to equalize the pull required to move the scope. 


Good luck and enjoy the mount. 

Wayne


Re: Pdf in french and APCC v1.8.0.x

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Dominique,

Even though I authored APCC, it is an Astro-Physics product so I will need to ask Marj at Astro-Physics about posting the translations. Either Marj or I will contact you privately about that.

Regarding a PEMPro translation of the help file or any documentation I am okay with you posting that publicly. Thank you for asking!

I'll also check on the absence of Park 5 in the manual. Park 5 is supported by both the driver and APCC even if that is not specified in the manual. The manual has been an effort authored by several people at A-P and me, so I am sure it just was forgotten.

While waiting for my Mach2 I have the standard APCC version and I tried to switch to a new version, but
protecting my PC systematically deletes the setup file when I want to update.
Do you mean your virus checker is deleting the file? If so, which virus checker are you using? I'm sure it's a false alarm. That can happen when a new version of a product comes out that has not been used by many other users yet.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dominique Durand via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 9:10 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Pdf in french and APCC v1.8.0.x

Hi Ray,
We have in our small community of French-speaking astram undertook to translate into French the various useful
manuals in order to more easily use our Astro-Physics materials. Personally I did this APCC-Pro (And update for
version v1.8.0.x) and with another passionate PEMPRO V2. We want to share it with other Astram users of AP
equipment and software that you have developed. We would like to know if we have your agreement to make
them available on the AstroSurf site in our specific Astro-Physics group.
I can of course send you well on these translations so that you take note of them before a possible wider
distribution.

There is a new park 5 which I do not find indicated in the pdf of APCC V1.8.0.x.

While waiting for my Mach2 I have the standard APCC version and I tried to switch to a new version, but
protecting my PC systematically deletes the setup file when I want to update.

Regards
Dominique
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Hi Ray, Nous avons dans notre petite communauté d'astram francophone entreprit de traduire en francais les
divers modes d'emploi utiles afin de plus facilement utiliser nos materiels Astro-Physics. Personnellement j'ai fait
celui APCC-Pro (Et mise à jour pour la version v1.8.0.x) et avec un autre passionné PEMPRO V2. Nous avons
envie d'en faire profiter d'autres Astram utilisateur de materiel AP et des logiciels que tu as developpés. Nous
souhaitons savoir si nous avons ton accord pour les mettre à disposition sur le site AstroSurf dans notre groupe
spécifique Astro-Physics. Je peux bien sur t'envoyer bien sur ces traductions pour que tu en prenne
connaissance avant une éventuelle plus large diffusion. Il y a un nouveau park 5 que je ne retrouve pas indiqué
dans le pdf d'APCC V1.8.0.x. Dans l'attente de ma Mach2 j'ai la version APCC standard et j'ai essayé de passer
en nouvelle version, mais la protection de mon Pc supprime systématiquement le fichier setup lorsque je veux
faire la mise à jour. Regards Dominique




Traductions de Hi Ray, Nous avons dans notre petite communauté d'astram francophone entreprit de traduire en
francais les divers modes d'emploi utiles afin de plus facilement utiliser nos materiels Astro-Physics.
Personnellement j'ai fait celui APCC-Pro (Et mise à jour pour la version v1.8.0.x) et avec un autre passionné
PEMPRO V2. Nous avons envie d'en faire profiter d'autres Astram utilisateur de materiel AP et des logiciels que
tu as developpés. Nous souhaitons savoir si nous avons ton accord pour les mettre à disposition sur le site
AstroSurf dans notre groupe spécifique Astro-Physics. Je peux bien sur t'envoyer bien sur ces traductions pour
que tu en prenne connaissance avant une éventuelle plus large diffusion. Il y a un nouveau park 5 que je ne
retrouve pas indiqué dans le pdf d'APCC V1.8.0.x. Dans l'attente de ma Mach2 j'ai la version APCC standard et
j'ai essayé de passer en nouvelle version, mais la protection de mon Pc supprime systématiquement le fichier
setup lorsque je veux faire la mise à jour. Regards Dominique
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francais les divers modes d'emploi utiles afin de plus facilement utiliser nos materiels Astro-Physics.
Personnellement j'ai fait celui APCC-Pro (Et mise à jour pour la version v1.8.0.x) et avec un autre passionné
PEMPRO V2. Nous avons envie d'en faire profiter d'autres Astram utilisateur de materiel AP et des logiciels que
tu as developpés. Nous souhaitons savoir si nous avons ton accord pour les mettre à disposition sur le site
AstroSurf dans notre groupe spécifique Astro-Physics. Je peux bien sur t'envoyer bien sur ces traductions pour
que tu en prenne connaissance avant une éventuelle plus large diffusion. Il y a un nouveau park 5 que je ne
retrouve pas indiqué dans le pdf d'APCC V1.8.0.x. Dans l'attente de ma Mach2 j'ai la version APCC standard et
j'ai essayé de passer en nouvelle version, mais la protection de mon Pc supprime systématiquement le fichier
setup lorsque je veux faire la mise à jour. Regards Dominique
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Exemples de Hi Ray, Nous avons dans notre petite communauté d'astram francophone entreprit de traduire en
francais les divers modes d'emploi utiles afin de plus facilement utiliser nos materiels Astro-Physics.
Personnellement j'ai fait celui APCC-Pro (Et mise à jour pour la version v1.8.0.x) et avec un autre passionné
PEMPRO V2. Nous avons envie d'en faire profiter d'autres Astram utilisateur de materiel AP et des logiciels que
tu as developpés. Nous souhaitons savoir si nous avons ton accord pour les mettre à disposition sur le site
AstroSurf dans notre groupe spécifique Astro-Physics. Je peux bien sur t'envoyer bien sur ces traductions pour
que tu en prenne connaissance avant une éventuelle plus large diffusion. Il y a un nouveau park 5 que je ne
retrouve pas indiqué dans le pdf d'APCC V1.8.0.x. Dans l'attente de ma Mach2 j'ai la version APCC standard et
j'ai essayé de passer en nouvelle version, mais la protection de mon Pc supprime systématiquement le fichier
setup lorsque je veux faire la mise à jour. Regards Dominique

Synonymes de Hi Ray, Nous avons dans notre petite communauté d'astram francophone entreprit de traduire en
francais les divers modes d'emploi utiles afin de plus facilement utiliser nos materiels Astro-Physics.
Personnellement j'ai fait celui APCC-Pro (Et mise à jour pour la version v1.8.0.x) et avec un autre passionné
PEMPRO V2. Nous avons envie d'en faire profiter d'autres Astram utilisateur de materiel AP et des logiciels que
tu as developpés. Nous souhaitons savoir si nous avons ton accord pour les mettre à disposition sur le site
AstroSurf dans notre groupe spécifique Astro-Physics. Je peux bien sur t'envoyer bien sur ces traductions pour
que tu en prenne connaissance avant une éventuelle plus large diffusion. Il y a un nouveau park 5 que je ne
retrouve pas indiqué dans le pdf d'APCC V1.8.0.x. Dans l'attente de ma Mach2 j'ai la version APCC standard et
j'ai essayé de passer en nouvelle version, mais la protection de mon Pc supprime systématiquement le fichier
setup lorsque je veux faire la mise à jour. Regards Dominique
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