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Re: Keypad Double Star Catalog

Wayne Hixson
 

It would be nice to search by separation. Not sure if that’s feasible in a keypad app though. Thought I’d ask. 😄


On Feb 20, 2020, at 10:32 AM, thefamily90 Phillips via Groups.Io <thefamily90@...> wrote:


The Cambridge double star atlas, first edition by James Mullaney lists 2,000+ double stars

The Cambridge double star atlas, second edition by Bruce MacEvoy lists 2500 binary stars BUT leaves out any doubles not truly binary which means leaving out some Showpiece Doubles.

My bias would be the first edition by Mullvany, as it is an atlas of Double Stars.

If you would prefer an atlas of Binary Stars then the second edition by MacEvoy.

If you could combine both, then great.

Jim



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Kent10 <kent.moore@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:23:33 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Keypad Double Star Catalog
 
New double star catalogues would be awesome.  The 2 I use the most to find double stars are the Bayer Stars and Flamsteed Stars.  Some of the Bayer Stars are already easy to find on the keypad but if I recall the list is not complete.  Thanks so much for doing this!


Re: Guider settings

Roland Christen
 

Each time that you change the guide scope or set up new you first must run a calibration run in PHD2. It's also a good idea to use the Guiding Assistant in PHD2 if you are not sure of what is happening. It will tell you all the vital information about how your mount is reacting.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Feb 20, 2020 12:11 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Guider settings

Yesterday after having found that guiding worsens my stars . Scope at present is just a 135 mm Samyang lens And qhy 193 M / finder scope 175 mm And lodestar gibbing me  3.67 asp/9.14 asp( guidescope ) . Could this be the reason why my guided results are poor when compared to unguided ?
Suresh !!



Re: Keypad Double Star Catalog

thefamily90 Phillips
 

The Cambridge double star atlas, first edition by James Mullaney lists 2,000+ double stars

The Cambridge double star atlas, second edition by Bruce MacEvoy lists 2500 binary stars BUT leaves out any doubles not truly binary which means leaving out some Showpiece Doubles.

My bias would be the first edition by Mullvany, as it is an atlas of Double Stars.

If you would prefer an atlas of Binary Stars then the second edition by MacEvoy.

If you could combine both, then great.

Jim



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Kent10 <kent.moore@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 1:23:33 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Keypad Double Star Catalog
 
New double star catalogues would be awesome.  The 2 I use the most to find double stars are the Bayer Stars and Flamsteed Stars.  Some of the Bayer Stars are already easy to find on the keypad but if I recall the list is not complete.  Thanks so much for doing this!


Re: Keypad Double Star Catalog

Kent10
 

To answer some of your other questions.  I would use these a lot, probably almost every night.  I live in Flagstaff and I use my Tec 200FL practically every night and I view lots of doubles.  Until I bought the AP 1100 mount I was using a Nexus DSC with my Tec 180 on a DM-6 mount and I enjoyed the Bayer and Flamsteed Catalogues the most, the reason being that these are easy to remember the names and the numbers.  I used Struve once in a while and SAO and WDS sometimes but rarely.


Re: Keypad Double Star Catalog

Kent10
 

New double star catalogues would be awesome.  The 2 I use the most to find double stars are the Bayer Stars and Flamsteed Stars.  Some of the Bayer Stars are already easy to find on the keypad but if I recall the list is not complete.  Thanks so much for doing this!


Re: Keypad Double Star Catalog

thefamily90 Phillips
 

Oh, and a catalog that lists doubles by constellation not just by RA.


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of thefamily90 Phillips <thefamily90@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 12:08:18 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Keypad Double Star Catalog
 
I am a big double star observer and would buy a new keypad just to get a larger double star catalogue than the one presently on the keypad. I have 5”, 8” and 10” scopes on Mach1, AP 900 Goto and 1200 Goto mounts.

So, I would be interested in anything with the exception of the Washington catalogue with tens of thousands of doubles listed. That would be, in my opinion, going from a catalogue that is too small to one too large, so large in fact that most of us would go to a smaller catalogue to pick out the double to observe before going to the HUGE list (Washington) to find the double. It would take significant time to find the double to use the Goto to find it. Larger catalogue with a couple thousand doubles NOT one with tens of thousands. Just my opinion.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Liam Plybon <liam@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 11:23:53 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Keypad Double Star Catalog
 
Hello Astronuts,

Along with the number of great additions to the keypad software you have been hearing about from Roland, we are trying to implement new object catalogs as well. One thing that we had in the past was selections from the ADS (Aitken Double Star) catalog. We have been kicking around the idea of either a new double star catalog or replacing ADS, but it is hard to know what double star catalog our users would use the most. This is where you come in; what double star database would you add if it was up to you? Let us know, and help us pick a catalog! Tell us:

  • What catalog you would add,
  • Why this catalog is the best,
  • And how often you would use it in the keypad!
--

Liam Plybon

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com


Re: Keypad Double Star Catalog

thefamily90 Phillips
 

I am a big double star observer and would buy a new keypad just to get a larger double star catalogue than the one presently on the keypad. I have 5”, 8” and 10” scopes on Mach1, AP 900 Goto and 1200 Goto mounts.

So, I would be interested in anything with the exception of the Washington catalogue with tens of thousands of doubles listed. That would be, in my opinion, going from a catalogue that is too small to one too large, so large in fact that most of us would go to a smaller catalogue to pick out the double to observe before going to the HUGE list (Washington) to find the double. It would take significant time to find the double to use the Goto to find it. Larger catalogue with a couple thousand doubles NOT one with tens of thousands. Just my opinion.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Liam Plybon <liam@...>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 11:23:53 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] Keypad Double Star Catalog
 
Hello Astronuts,

Along with the number of great additions to the keypad software you have been hearing about from Roland, we are trying to implement new object catalogs as well. One thing that we had in the past was selections from the ADS (Aitken Double Star) catalog. We have been kicking around the idea of either a new double star catalog or replacing ADS, but it is hard to know what double star catalog our users would use the most. This is where you come in; what double star database would you add if it was up to you? Let us know, and help us pick a catalog! Tell us:

  • What catalog you would add,
  • Why this catalog is the best,
  • And how often you would use it in the keypad!
--

Liam Plybon

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com


Keypad Double Star Catalog

 

Hello Astronuts,

Along with the number of great additions to the keypad software you have been hearing about from Roland, we are trying to implement new object catalogs as well. One thing that we had in the past was selections from the ADS (Aitken Double Star) catalog. We have been kicking around the idea of either a new double star catalog or replacing ADS, but it is hard to know what double star catalog our users would use the most. This is where you come in; what double star database would you add if it was up to you? Let us know, and help us pick a catalog! Tell us:

  • What catalog you would add,
  • Why this catalog is the best,
  • And how often you would use it in the keypad!
--

Liam Plybon

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com


Re: How critical is balance ?

 

Suresh

 

I help out over at the PHD forums, I encourage you to post your guidelogs and description of your problem there

 

Here are some details on how to get help there: https://openphdguiding.org/getting-help/

 

 

Thanks

 

Brian

 

portfolio https://www.brianvalentephotography.com/

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Suresh Mohan
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 7:23 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How critical is balance ?

 

Phd is my guiding program 



On 20-Feb-2020, at 7:20 PM, Lawrence Lopez <lawlopez3@...> wrote:



Might be locked on to a hot pixel.  What guider program are you using ?

 

If so might need dark frames or hot and/or cold pixel removal.

 

 

Then again what do i know.

 

 

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 12:24 AM Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:

I found the culprit ; the 10 min unguided has no drift !! So I need to re look at the guiding parameters !
Suresh
> On 19-Feb-2020, at 10:52 AM, Suresh Mohan via Groups.Io <drsureshmohan=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi ,
> I’m using a Mach 1 mount , my gear at present is just a qhy183 M with a Samyang 135 mm lens , I’m presently shooting sh2 308 . I’m wel polar aligned with no DEC drift . I’m noticing a tiny trail only  in RA only after it crosses the meridian . However I balance east heavy only with the cw bar horizontal . Should I offset it a little more than the existing east heavy position  ?
> Thanks
> Suresh
>
>
>



Re: How critical is balance ?

Suresh Mohan
 

Phd is my guiding program 


On 20-Feb-2020, at 7:20 PM, Lawrence Lopez <lawlopez3@...> wrote:


Might be locked on to a hot pixel.  What guider program are you using ?

If so might need dark frames or hot and/or cold pixel removal.


Then again what do i know.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 12:24 AM Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:
I found the culprit ; the 10 min unguided has no drift !! So I need to re look at the guiding parameters !
Suresh
> On 19-Feb-2020, at 10:52 AM, Suresh Mohan via Groups.Io <drsureshmohan=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi ,
> I’m using a Mach 1 mount , my gear at present is just a qhy183 M with a Samyang 135 mm lens , I’m presently shooting sh2 308 . I’m wel polar aligned with no DEC drift . I’m noticing a tiny trail only  in RA only after it crosses the meridian . However I balance east heavy only with the cw bar horizontal . Should I offset it a little more than the existing east heavy position  ?
> Thanks
> Suresh
>
>
>




Re: How critical is balance ?

Lawrence Lopez
 

Might be locked on to a hot pixel.  What guider program are you using ?

If so might need dark frames or hot and/or cold pixel removal.


Then again what do i know.


On Thu, Feb 20, 2020, 12:24 AM Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:
I found the culprit ; the 10 min unguided has no drift !! So I need to re look at the guiding parameters !
Suresh
> On 19-Feb-2020, at 10:52 AM, Suresh Mohan via Groups.Io <drsureshmohan=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi ,
> I’m using a Mach 1 mount , my gear at present is just a qhy183 M with a Samyang 135 mm lens , I’m presently shooting sh2 308 . I’m wel polar aligned with no DEC drift . I’m noticing a tiny trail only  in RA only after it crosses the meridian . However I balance east heavy only with the cw bar horizontal . Should I offset it a little more than the existing east heavy position  ?
> Thanks
> Suresh
>
>
>




Guider settings

Suresh Mohan
 

Yesterday after having found that guiding worsens my stars . Scope at present is just a 135 mm Samyang lens And qhy 193 M / finder scope 175 mm And lodestar gibbing me 3.67 asp/9.14 asp( guidescope ) . Could this be the reason why my guided results are poor when compared to unguided ?
Suresh !!


Re: How critical is balance ?

Suresh Mohan
 

I found the culprit ; the 10 min unguided has no drift !! So I need to re look at the guiding parameters !
Suresh

On 19-Feb-2020, at 10:52 AM, Suresh Mohan via Groups.Io <drsureshmohan=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


Hi ,
I’m using a Mach 1 mount , my gear at present is just a qhy183 M with a Samyang 135 mm lens , I’m presently shooting sh2 308 . I’m wel polar aligned with no DEC drift . I’m noticing a tiny trail only in RA only after it crosses the meridian . However I balance east heavy only with the cw bar horizontal . Should I offset it a little more than the existing east heavy position ?
Thanks
Suresh



Re: Mach2 Update?

Lawrence Lopez
 

I looked at the Mach2.
I have been waiting for it and missed it !!!


On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:59 PM Dominique Durand via Groups.Io <dom33.durand=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 08:43 PM, George wrote:

Does this mean that I can take my time with the manual!?!   <VBG>

 

Regards,

 

George


But yes George  ..and then send the mounts ... we will manage since it seems that now everything is automatic.

Regards

Dominique


Re: Mach2 Update?

Dominique Durand
 
Edited

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 08:43 PM, George wrote:

Does this mean that I can take my time with the manual!?!   <VBG>

 

Regards,

 

George


But yes George  ..and then send the mounts ... we will manage since it seems that now everything is automatic.

Regards

Dominique


Re: Mach2 Update?

George
 

Does this mean that I can take my time with the manual!?!   <VBG>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of B Briggs via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 1:38 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Update?

 

YES it is George's and Rolando's fault that you/we are are getting such suburb service and equipment.  It is worth the wait to get things correct the first time 1111111111111
Burton  


Re: Mach2 Update?

B Briggs
 

YES it is George's and Rolando's fault that you/we are are getting such suburb service and equipment.  It is worth the wait to get things correct the first time 1111111111111
Burton  


Re: Mach2 Update?

George
 

<G>

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick Socarras
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 1:01 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Update?

 

Once again...

It's George's fault!  


Re: Mach2 Update?

Rick Socarras
 

Once again...

It's George's fault!  


Re: Mach2 Update?

Wayne Hixson
 

All right nobody call George for Tech Support until the Mach2 ships! 😀


On Feb 19, 2020, at 10:10 AM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011@...> wrote:


George is working feverously to finish the manual.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Jacobsen <deanjacobsen@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Feb 19, 2020 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach2 Update?

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 09:24 AM, Dominique Durand wrote:
I wish I could already study the Mach2 manual, but where do we find it?
This is where AP publishes the manuals and docs for current products:

https://astro-physics.info/index.htm?tech_support/tech_support

I have been watching there for the Mach2 manual and also the GTOCP5 manual and the manual for the new keypad revision.

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