Re: Erratic parking of the mount
One of my personal rules is that I never recalibrate or sync any GOTO mount on solar system objects. The orbital calcs are always complex and positional errors are the rule, not the exception.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020, 8:20 AM Donald Rudny <mkea13800@...> wrote:
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Re: Erratic parking of the mount
Donald Rudny
Hi Bruce,
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Just saw this and agree that it’s probably your re-aligning or recal when you are in different parts of the sky. I noticed that even when I use APCC to initiate. When I would start another session and pick start from position 3, alignment was off. What I needed to pick was “last parked”. I could see from the marks on the axes that the park 3 position was off a little. Once I used last park, it worked perfectly. Unfortunately, SkySafari has limited choices for initiating and unparking. You would need to reset your park 4 position each new session unless you didn’t re-align during the prior one. One thing you could try is to realign on a star near the park 4 position before you shut down. That would be low in the southern sky. That should at least get the next startup closer. Don Rudny
On Feb 13, 2020, at 7:54 AM, Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...> wrote:
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Re: Erratic parking of the mount
Bruce Donzanti
Great- good to understand what is probably causing this and that a solution is forthcoming.
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Thank you
On Feb 13, 2020, at 12:05 PM, uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011@...> wrote:
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PEMProV3 error message
Ted Mickle
Ray, I've used PEMProV3 from with APCC Pro in the past without difficulty but now am encountering an error message when attempting to access the CCDWare website, check for updates, etc from within APCC Pro/PEMProV3: "Unable to open browser: access to path "C:\Users\Documents\CCDWare\PEMProV3\temp.htm" is denied Also, when I attempt to acquire data, set the image scale, etc, I encounter this error message: "Failure to write mount definitions: Access to path is denied" My guess is that a configuration has changed somewhere in Windows 10 -- any suggestions to remedy are welcome. Thanks, Ted
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Re: Erratic parking of the mount
Roland Christen
Usually, this is fine but every now and then I noticed the scope does not park in position 4 exactly as it should (i.e., the RA axis is slightly off level). All sky positions are calculated from the previous object that you did a Recal on. That includes park positions. If the last object that you Recal on is off by 1 degree when you pressed Recal, then every object that you go to including all park positions will also have that 1 degree error.
Your errant Recal could be the result of an error on your part or deliberate if you wanted to center a nebulous object and then did a recal on it. What you might think was the center might not be the center as defined in the database, so that throws off everything else following that move.
We are working on changing the way parks are generated so that they are not affected by errant recals or syncs. The software will be available for the CP4 and will be standard in the Mach2 CP5 controllers.
Rolando
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From: Bruce Donzanti <donza2735@...> To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Thu, Feb 13, 2020 5:42 am Subject: [ap-gto] Erratic parking of the mount In my permanent setup, I use SkySafari 6 Pro as my planetarium program to slew my AP1100 with no issues (connected to the GTOCP4 via RS232). It parks and unparks from position 4 with no issues. I also use PHD2 for guiding by linking it as required to the mount to my capture and live viewing software (SGPro or SharpCap) which are connected to mount via USB with no issues. However, I have had random problems with shutting down the system. I first park the scope using SkySafari 6 Pro and then close PHD2 followed by the capture software. Usually, this is fine but every now and then I noticed the scope does not park in position 4 exactly as it should (i.e., the RA axis is slightly off level). I can't seem to figure out what is the cause as it is very infrequent but annoying as it misaligns the scope for the next time I startup Skysafari 6 Pro to slew to an object (i.e., the mount is lost and I need to realign). Any thoughts as to what is going on? Is my shutdown sequence wrong?
Bruce
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Re: Erratic parking of the mount
Bruce Donzanti
Hi Ray
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Sorry- what I meant by manual was re-aligning using SkySafari and not un-clutch it. Thanks for the follow-up and the other possible reasons for this. I just wanted to confirm that I was not doing anything obviously wrong. Bruce
On Feb 13, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Ray Gralak <groups3@gralak.com> wrote:
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Re: Erratic parking of the mount
Ray Gralak
Hi Bruce,
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If you mean that you manually un-clutch and center a target, then yes, that can cause the park position to be offset a little. This is nothing to worry about though. It doesn't mean there is anything wrong with your mount or setup. A pointing offset can be caused by a number things including polar alignment error, non-perpendicularity of the optical axis, flexure, refraction, etc. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver
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Re: Erratic parking of the mount
Bruce Donzanti
Hi Ray Almost 100% no slippage. Everything tight and well balanced before beginning a session. I do manually realign to center some objects at times but that is it. Could that be the cause? However, I have not noticed any consistent pattern or trend.
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 7:09 AM Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote: Hi Bruce,
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Re: Erratic parking of the mount
Ray Gralak
Hi Bruce,
Usually, this is fine but every now and then I noticed the scope does not park in position 4 exactly as it should (i.e.,A couple things come to mind: 1. Are you sure the clutches are not slipping? 2. Were any RECALs performed, either manually or via plate solves? They can slightly change the effective mechanical position of the park positions. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Erratic parking of the mount
Bruce Donzanti
In my permanent setup, I use SkySafari 6 Pro as my planetarium program to slew my AP1100 with no issues (connected to the GTOCP4 via RS232). It parks and unparks from position 4 with no issues. I also use PHD2 for guiding by linking it as required to the mount to my capture and live viewing software (SGPro or SharpCap) which are connected to mount via USB with no issues. However, I have had random problems with shutting down the system. I first park the scope using SkySafari 6 Pro and then close PHD2 followed by the capture software. Usually, this is fine but every now and then I noticed the scope does not park in position 4 exactly as it should (i.e., the RA axis is slightly off level). I can't seem to figure out what is the cause as it is very infrequent but annoying as it misaligns the scope for the next time I startup Skysafari 6 Pro to slew to an object (i.e., the mount is lost and I need to realign). Any thoughts as to what is going on? Is my shutdown sequence wrong?
Bruce
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Re: Ascom problem
George
Check your computer’s Device Manager for the COM Port. Be sure that all secondary programs are connecting to the V2 driver (AstroPhysics GTO V2 Mount).
Regards,
George
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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Martyn
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 2:07 AM To: main@ap-gto.groups.io Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Ascom problem
Hi Suresh, On 12/02/2020 05:49, Suresh Mohan wrote:
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Re: Ascom problem
Martyn
Hi Suresh,
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It sounds like the ASCOM driver is just set to the wrong com port. Try setting the driver to com1 and see if it connects, if not set to com2 etc. My mount ended up being on com7. Martyn
On 12/02/2020 05:49, Suresh Mohan
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In com 3 I get : no mount found , at the same time works with phd etc
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Re: Ascom problem
Ray Gralak
In com 3 I get : no mount found , at the same time works with phd etcMake sure none of your applications is running "as administrator". This will start another separate instance of the ASCOM driver which won't be able to connect if the first instance is already connected. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: APPM Remove Scope Question
Ray Gralak
I have a permanent pier and scope setup using a AP1100 Mount and AP130mm scope. My question is, if I removeI do this all the time. If you place the scope back in about the same position the model will work well from night to night. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: APPM and CCDSOFT
Ray Gralak
Bryan,
Is there information somewhere that provides guidance on good/fair/poor values for Pointing Correction Status andThere are no good/bad values per se. All of the terms are in arc-seconds. What is more important is how well pointing terms as a whole model the telescope setup and how consistent pointing is. For instance, if the scope's rings, or adapter from scope to camera, have some play then there might be some randomness in pointing accuracy as well as some additional error in the model itself. -Ray Gralak Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver -----Original Message-----
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Re: Ascom problem
Cheng-Yang Tan
That is very strange ... AP ASCOM driver allows multiple programs to talk to it. I have PHD2, Cartes du Ciel and APT talking to the AP ASCOM driver. Are you sure you have set APT to talk to AP ASCOM? Which program says that "no mount found in com3"? It sounds like it is from AP ASCOM. If that's the case, then you have not set up AP ASCOM correctly. cytan
On Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 11:49:13 PM CST, Suresh Mohan <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:
In com 3 I get : no mount found , at the same time works with phd etc On 12-Feb-2020, at 9:10 AM, Cheng-Yang Tan via Groups.Io <cytan299@...> wrote:
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Re: Ascom problem
Suresh Mohan
In com 3 I get : no mount found , at the same time works with phd etc
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On 12-Feb-2020, at 9:10 AM, Cheng-Yang Tan via Groups.Io <cytan299@...> wrote:
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Re: APPM Remove Scope Question
Roland Christen
I have done a number of such changes back and forth with different tube assemblies even. The pointing does not seem to be affected. Not to any degree that i can tell.
Rolando
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From: Mark Townsend <albertawow@...> To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 11, 2020 11:17 pm Subject: [ap-gto] APPM Remove Scope Question I have a permanent pier and scope setup using a AP1100 Mount and AP130mm scope. My question is, if I remove my scope from the rings and then replace it again will my pointing model still be accurate? Will the slight movement from the rings felt ruin my model?
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APPM Remove Scope Question
Mark Townsend
I have a permanent pier and scope setup using a AP1100 Mount and AP130mm scope. My question is, if I remove my scope from the rings and then replace it again will my pointing model still be accurate? Will the slight movement from the rings felt ruin my model?
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