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Re: Plate solving with SGP, AP900 Mount and APCC

John Kazanas
 

Hi Brian,

I tend to take a series of images slowly shifting the scope and rotating the camera. When I am happy with this, I take a short exposure, plate solve this, and ask SGP to centre there.

When I return at a later night, I simply open the last image I took, plate solve again ask SGP to centre. It all works fine but it's slight offset.

I am 100% it use to work fine - not sure what I changed, or whether one of the updates changed something which I need to change back in either APCC or SGP or both.

John Kazanas.


Re: Plate solving with SGP, AP900 Mount and APCC

 

John - How are you creating your target? If you are using SGP’s framing and mosaic wizard, I’ve noticed problems like this in the past few releases. I’ve seen when the image is brought up in F&MW it is oddly offset by about that amount.

 

Brian

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Kazanas
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:15 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Plate solving with SGP, AP900 Mount and APCC

 

Thanks Ray,

I have posted in SGP forumns but have not had a response.

I should better explain the issue - I normally take a reference image once I have framed the object correctly, plate solve (this works) and then ask SGP to centre here. But it's always off in RA/Dec by 10-15% of the frame height/width after it the scope is centred.

So the plate solving is fine - it's just that the scope does not then centre correctly. But again, from the net searching I have been doing, this may be related to the EPOCH settings or something else that I have done in correctly.

Clear skies,

John Kazanas.


Re: Plate solving with SGP, AP900 Mount and APCC

John Kazanas
 

Thanks Ray,

I have posted in SGP forumns but have not had a response.

I should better explain the issue - I normally take a reference image once I have framed the object correctly, plate solve (this works) and then ask SGP to centre here. But it's always off in RA/Dec by 10-15% of the frame height/width after it the scope is centred.

So the plate solving is fine - it's just that the scope does not then centre correctly. But again, from the net searching I have been doing, this may be related to the EPOCH settings or something else that I have done in correctly.

Clear skies,

John Kazanas.


Re: CP4 Problem

Robert Berta
 
Edited

Some things to check.....

What ambient temperature were you in? Some regulated power supplies don't like very cold temperatures.
Are you using any sort of cable extension between the power supply and the CP4 box other than the stock power cable? Unlike AC, DC has a lot of voltage drop over distance....also need heavier gauge wire at longer distances.
You said you also tried running from a battery. Assuming it was a good battery and only using the AP supplied power cable and no additional extension cable it should work fine.
I noted you were running dew heaters....by any chance were they on the same power supply? They should be on another power supply. As they cycle on and off they may cause spurious spikes causing all kinds of problems.


Re: CP4 Problem

Mike Dodd
 

On 1/15/2020 4:47 PM, fjk5146 wrote:
The mount is
powered by an Alinco DM-330MVT 30A regulated power supply at a voltage
of 13.8V. My new mount was working flawlessly until last night.
I don't know if this is relevant or helpful, but I had terrible results with an Alinco DM330MV (no T) powering my AP1200. I use the same model supply for my amateur radio station, and it works flawlessly, but in the observatory it tripped the GFCI on multiple nights. It even tripped the GFCI after a few hours on two occasions while connected only to a 20-watt resistor drawing 1 amp -- No AP1200 connection at all.

I looked carefully at the instruction sheet that came with the supply, and buried in it, I discovered the operating temperature range is VERY limited -- essentially room-temperature +/- a little bit.

I concluded the DM330MV is not suitable in an observatory environment, and replaced it with a Mean Well 15V 7A power supply <https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mean-Well-LRS-100-15-105W-15V-7A-Single-Output-Switchable-Power-Supply:/112267760381?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649>

I added a plastic shield to prevent shock from the exposed 120V terminals, and also to (hopefully) minimize condensation on the electronics: <http://astronomy.mdodd.com/observatory.html#PowerSupply>

So far, so good. I have had zero problems in 8-10 imaging sessions during cold weather.

FWIW.

--
Mike

Mike Dodd
Louisa County, Virginia USA
http://astronomy.mdodd.com


Re: CP4 Problem

Roland Christen
 


I disconnected the power and motor cable from the CP4.
As soon as you disconnect the motor cables from the CP4, it will sense that the motors are not working and will give you a yellow light. That is normal. The motors must be connected for the servo to sense a properly functioning mount, otherwise it will assume that one of the two motors has stalled and will indicate such with a yellow light.

Whether a power supply is rated at 30 amps or 3 amps makes zero difference. You could have 1000 amp supply and still get a low voltage situation at the input to the servo. This can come from a poor connection at the supply pins or because of excess distance between power supply and mount servo. What's important is NOT the voltage at the supply pins, but what is the voltage at the CP4. If there is a poor connection at the power supply pins, you can easily have a couple of volt drop in the line going to the CP4 and still read 13.7 at the power supply pins.

We have seen a similar situation where the power supply was very robust but the mount would not work. The power wire was very long and snaked under a carpet from across the room in the customer's observatory. When the supply was moved close to the mount, everything worked fine. The problem in this case was a large voltage drop between the power supply that was placed far away and the mount servo. Although the power supply pins were at 13.8 volts, the voltage had dropped more than 5 volts when measured at the pins of the mount servo.

Roland Christen


-----Original Message-----
From: fjk5146 <fredjkeller@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jan 15, 2020 3:47 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 Problem

I experienced an issue with my CP4 controller last night.  My AP1100 arrived in October and was installed on a permanent pier in our observatory a week later.  I initialize the mount with a computer running SGP and the latest Astro-Physics ASCOM driver.  The mount is powered by an Alinco DM-330MVT 30A regulated power supply at a voltage of 13.8V.  My new mount was working flawlessly until last night. 

Last night I powered up the mount and opened SGP and connected to the mount through the ASCOM driver.  I unparked the mount and slewed to Deneb to make sure everything was working.  I then re-parked the mount and  left the mount parked with the power on.  I left the power on because I wanted the dew heaters to warm everything before I started imaging.   Around sunset I went back to the observatory and issued an UNPARK command.  The software indicated the mount had unparked.  I then tried to move the mount using the slew buttons on the ASCOM driver panel.  When I did this I was getting a low voltage indication flashing in the ASCOM panel when trying to move the mount.  I took a volt meter and checked the voltage being feed to the mount and I measured 13.7 Volts.  My 30 Amp power supply supplies power to two piers in our observatory..  The AP1100 the other pier  was working fine. 

I then checked the CP4 on the new AP1100 and the LED was yellow.  I disconnected the power and motor cable from the CP4.  I then reconnected just the power connector and still had a yellow LED.  My next step was to disconnect the CP4 from the observatory power supply and connect it to one of the battery boxes I use for portable operation.  I turned on the battery box and still had a Yellow LED indicator.  At this point I got a spare CP3 controller that I had and replaced the CP4 with the CP3.  The mount powered up and worked fine with the CP3 controller.   I imaged the rest of the evening using the CP3 controller.

At the end of the evening, I shutdown the mount and re-installed the CP4 controller.  When I powered it on everything was working normally.  I had a RED LED and the mount would move without giving a low voltage error.

Does anyone have any idea why I might have been getting the low voltage error even though the voltage was measured at 13.7V ?

Thanks in advance,

Fred

--
Fred Keller
Gold Creek Observatory
Martinsville, IN


CP4 Problem

fjk5146
 

I experienced an issue with my CP4 controller last night.  My AP1100 arrived in October and was installed on a permanent pier in our observatory a week later.  I initialize the mount with a computer running SGP and the latest Astro-Physics ASCOM driver.  The mount is powered by an Alinco DM-330MVT 30A regulated power supply at a voltage of 13.8V.  My new mount was working flawlessly until last night. 

Last night I powered up the mount and opened SGP and connected to the mount through the ASCOM driver.  I unparked the mount and slewed to Deneb to make sure everything was working.  I then re-parked the mount and  left the mount parked with the power on.  I left the power on because I wanted the dew heaters to warm everything before I started imaging.   Around sunset I went back to the observatory and issued an UNPARK command.  The software indicated the mount had unparked.  I then tried to move the mount using the slew buttons on the ASCOM driver panel.  When I did this I was getting a low voltage indication flashing in the ASCOM panel when trying to move the mount.  I took a volt meter and checked the voltage being feed to the mount and I measured 13.7 Volts.  My 30 Amp power supply supplies power to two piers in our observatory..  The AP1100 the other pier  was working fine. 

I then checked the CP4 on the new AP1100 and the LED was yellow.  I disconnected the power and motor cable from the CP4.  I then reconnected just the power connector and still had a yellow LED.  My next step was to disconnect the CP4 from the observatory power supply and connect it to one of the battery boxes I use for portable operation.  I turned on the battery box and still had a Yellow LED indicator.  At this point I got a spare CP3 controller that I had and replaced the CP4 with the CP3.  The mount powered up and worked fine with the CP3 controller.   I imaged the rest of the evening using the CP3 controller.

At the end of the evening, I shutdown the mount and re-installed the CP4 controller.  When I powered it on everything was working normally.  I had a RED LED and the mount would move without giving a low voltage error.

Does anyone have any idea why I might have been getting the low voltage error even though the voltage was measured at 13.7V ?

Thanks in advance,

Fred

--
Fred Keller
Gold Creek Observatory
Martinsville, IN


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Dale Ghent
 

As said several times before, this is a firmware update for the existing keypad. This is *not* a new keypad design. See Marj's email to this list on Dec. 29 2019 for full details.

The only physical change to the keypad is an optional replacement key pad membrane that has the focuser and reticle brightness adjustment buttons relabeled for use with new firmware features. The CP4/CP5, which this firmware update will only work with, discontinued the focuser control and reticle brightness adjustment features of previous control panel models so those physical buttons have been drafted for use with the new features of the firmware update rather than continue to be unused.

On Jan 15, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Greg Salyer <astronutcase@...> wrote:

Can we hear a bit about this new keypad? Is it a firmware upgrade to the existing hardware or something totally new? Is it usable in daylight as well as night conditions? I know there’s been a lot of discussions in this forum about new keypad functions and assumed it was targeted at the CP4 but I didn’t know it was a new product.

Greg

On Jan 15, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Marj Christen <marj@...> wrote:


Just to clarify. The CP4 version that will be required for the keypad has not been released yet.

Clear Skies,

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Rd
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:08 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

The new keypad requires a CP4, will not work with the CP3.
In order to take full advantage of all the new keypad features, the CP4 will need the latest software download which is quick and easy to do over the internet.

Roland



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Berta <biker123@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Roland....I have both a 900 CP3 and 1100 mount with CP4. Once the keypad is updated to this new version will it still work with the CP3 box? Both CP 3 and 4 and hand controller are already updated t the latest version of firmware.


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Greg Salyer
 

Can we hear a bit about this new keypad? Is it a firmware upgrade to the existing hardware or something totally new? Is it usable in daylight as well as night conditions? I know there’s been a lot of discussions in this forum about new keypad functions and assumed it was targeted at the CP4 but I didn’t know it was a new product.

Greg

On Jan 15, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Marj Christen <marj@...> wrote:



Just to clarify. The CP4 version that will be required for the keypad has not been released yet.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:08 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

 

The new keypad requires a CP4, will not work with the CP3.

In order to take full advantage of all the new keypad features, the CP4 will need the latest software download which is quick and easy to do over the internet.

 

Roland

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Berta <biker123@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Roland....I have both a 900 CP3 and 1100 mount with CP4. Once the keypad is updated to this new version will it still work with the CP3 box? Both CP 3 and 4 and hand controller are already updated t the latest version of firmware.


Re: OT Equipment insurance

Stuart <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Mike, echoing what Steven said - for sure go through a broker who will be able to shop around. Specific points per your first e-mail:

I took pics of EVERYTHING. I supplied receipts for stuff I bought new; e-mail / paypal correspondence for stuff bought used.
I too screen captures of equivalent items for sale on Astromart if the items were no longer available new and included those.
I put all the detail in a spreadsheet plus the screen captures, mailed it to my broker and asked for e-mail confirmation that it was a) received and b) what they needed to PROMISE that my stuff was insured per my policy.

One thing that came out right away was that my home owner insurance covered cameras, bikes etc until I mentioned how much I paid for said camera gear and bikes at which point the broker yelled Whoa!!! and I was told that kids bikes and basic cameras were included but my stuff for sure NOT included under a basic homeowners policy. So they added a "Jewelry" rider that covers cameras and expensive stuff above the threshold of the homeowner's plan.


On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 20:31, Mike Shade <mshade@q.com> wrote:

Thanks, looking into that option.  I am rural, might be a bit of a challenge, but will try.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steven Steven
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] OT Equipment insurance

 

Hi Mike,

 

I use a well-established Insurance Broker for ALL my insurance including astronomy, IT, aircraft, as well as household, buildings and personal/accident, etc. A broker has access to many different insurers and can explain their policies and how to make claims, what they'll need, etc. That is the way to do it. Insurance companies direct cannot be relied on unless you happen to really be in the know how they do things, and if you should have a claim, a broker will ascertain that you get the best service, and better sleep. Premium costs are not much higher - an unpaid claim can exceed anything you could pay in premiums.

 

Steve

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Shade <mshade@q.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2020 7:09 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] OT Equipment insurance

 

I am having a bit of a problem with my insurance company.  Like many I have a few telescopes, mounts, and associated equipment.  I was told that the equipment was covered under the "personal property" section of my policy and I increased my coverage a year ago to cover the estimated value.  My wife offered recently that I double check to make sure since the equipment is in an observatory on the property.

 

My insurance company agent is not helpful.  They are wanting appraisals, receipts, pictures, descriptions, maybe an inspection and possibly security measures for the observatory.  I asked who would be able to appraise said equipment.  Silence.  I know what some of the current cost is for some of it as it is still being produced.  However, some of it is no longer being produced (like my 1200GTO mount).  As I have been doing this for 45 years, I have a pretty good idea as to value.  I also offered that some was purchased private party, no receipts or they are long gone, or it was say 12 years ago.  They are not helping to solve a problem they created and I am getting somewhat frustrated.

 

So, how do people insure equipment?  I don't need to know who has what or the value, just how is specific equipment covered.

 

Thanks for any useful information.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

 


--

Stuart
http://www.astrofoto.ca/stuartheggie/


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

 

Just to clarify. The CP4 version that will be required for the keypad has not been released yet.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 3:08 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

 

The new keypad requires a CP4, will not work with the CP3.

In order to take full advantage of all the new keypad features, the CP4 will need the latest software download which is quick and easy to do over the internet.

 

Roland

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Berta <biker123@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Roland....I have both a 900 CP3 and 1100 mount with CP4. Once the keypad is updated to this new version will it still work with the CP3 box? Both CP 3 and 4 and hand controller are already updated t the latest version of firmware.


Re: Plate solving with SGP, AP900 Mount and APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Hi John,

I have tried to change to J2000 in both the SGP Plate solver parameters and in APCC but still no luck - or
should SGP be J2000 and APCC as JNow?
There is no setting in APCC to use J2000.0. APCC is always using local apparent.

Are you using APCC Standard, or Pro? If Pro, are you using APPM for modeling?

Assuming you are using APCC Pro and trying to build a model:

In APPM settings menu, turn on Settings->Plate Solved Images->Save failed Solves only. This will save any failed images for later inspection. In APPM when doing a pointing run you can double click any failed line to bring up a view of the failed image in the default FITS viewer on your computer. Inspect the image for quality problems like focus, trailing, lack of stars (i.e. clouds), etc.

The only real plate solve setting(s) you can supply to SGPro in APPM are X/Y image scale, and that should not change unless you change the camera (pixel size), or telescope (focal length), or if you add/remove a focal reducer, field flattener, or barlow (focal length). So, once you get a known good plate solve you can turn off the option in APPM to "Refine image scale from next solved image".

That said, if plate solves are failing you should enable "Try All-Sky Plate Solving if available" in APPM. If a plate solve fails then APPM will try again using the option to search the entire sky.

Lastly,in APPM try enabling "Use last plate solve's offset as hint for next plate solve". This can significantly reduce plate solve time because any RA/Dec offset from the previous good plate solve will be added to the next plate solves' RA/Dec.

Of course all of the above only applies when using APPM. If you are just using SGPro then you will need to look at its settings. In that case you might want to ask on the Main Sequence forum, as these parameters are relevant to all scopes and mount types, not just APCC/APPM.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Kazanas
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 4:37 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Plate solving with SGP, AP900 Mount and APCC

Hi everyone,

I have an AP900 mount and use the AP APCC software to control it as well as SGP.

I cannot get SGP to plate solve correctly any more and I always seem to by off by about 10-15% of the
Width/Height of the image in both Dec and RA. Luckily I bookmark my star guide position in PHD2 and can
manually return to the same position.

I have tried to change to J2000 in both the SGP Plate solver parameters and in APCC but still no luck - or
should SGP be J2000 and APCC as JNow?

Can someone using APCC and an AP mount advise on what the settings should be in APCC and SGP?

Appreciate it.

Clear skies,


John Kazanas


Plate solving with SGP, AP900 Mount and APCC

John Kazanas
 

Hi everyone,

I have an AP900 mount and use the AP APCC software to control it as well as SGP.

I cannot get SGP to plate solve correctly any more and I always seem to by off by about 10-15% of the Width/Height of the image in both Dec and RA. Luckily I bookmark my star guide position in PHD2 and can manually return to the same position.

I have tried to change to J2000 in both the SGP Plate solver parameters and in APCC but still no luck - or should SGP be J2000 and APCC as JNow?

Can someone using APCC and an AP mount advise on what the settings should be in APCC and SGP?

Appreciate it.

Clear skies,


John Kazanas


Re: OT Equipment insurance

Mike Shade
 

Thanks, looking into that option.  I am rural, might be a bit of a challenge, but will try.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steven Steven
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 5:20 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] OT Equipment insurance

 

Hi Mike,

 

I use a well-established Insurance Broker for ALL my insurance including astronomy, IT, aircraft, as well as household, buildings and personal/accident, etc. A broker has access to many different insurers and can explain their policies and how to make claims, what they'll need, etc. That is the way to do it. Insurance companies direct cannot be relied on unless you happen to really be in the know how they do things, and if you should have a claim, a broker will ascertain that you get the best service, and better sleep. Premium costs are not much higher - an unpaid claim can exceed anything you could pay in premiums.

 

Steve

 


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Shade <mshade@q.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2020 7:09 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] OT Equipment insurance

 

I am having a bit of a problem with my insurance company.  Like many I have a few telescopes, mounts, and associated equipment.  I was told that the equipment was covered under the "personal property" section of my policy and I increased my coverage a year ago to cover the estimated value.  My wife offered recently that I double check to make sure since the equipment is in an observatory on the property.

 

My insurance company agent is not helpful.  They are wanting appraisals, receipts, pictures, descriptions, maybe an inspection and possibly security measures for the observatory.  I asked who would be able to appraise said equipment.  Silence.  I know what some of the current cost is for some of it as it is still being produced.  However, some of it is no longer being produced (like my 1200GTO mount).  As I have been doing this for 45 years, I have a pretty good idea as to value.  I also offered that some was purchased private party, no receipts or they are long gone, or it was say 12 years ago.  They are not helping to solve a problem they created and I am getting somewhat frustrated.

 

So, how do people insure equipment?  I don't need to know who has what or the value, just how is specific equipment covered.

 

Thanks for any useful information.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

 


Re: OT Equipment insurance

Mike <wildwood7711@...>
 

Make sure you get replacement coverage!


On Tuesday, January 14, 2020, 06:19:59 PM CST, Steven Steven <steven447@...> wrote:


Hi Mike,

I use a well-established Insurance Broker for ALL my insurance including astronomy, IT, aircraft, as well as household, buildings and personal/accident, etc. A broker has access to many different insurers and can explain their policies and how to make claims, what they'll need, etc. That is the way to do it. Insurance companies direct cannot be relied on unless you happen to really be in the know how they do things, and if you should have a claim, a broker will ascertain that you get the best service, and better sleep. Premium costs are not much higher - an unpaid claim can exceed anything you could pay in premiums.

Steve


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Shade <mshade@q.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2020 7:09 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] OT Equipment insurance
 

I am having a bit of a problem with my insurance company.  Like many I have a few telescopes, mounts, and associated equipment.  I was told that the equipment was covered under the "personal property" section of my policy and I increased my coverage a year ago to cover the estimated value.  My wife offered recently that I double check to make sure since the equipment is in an observatory on the property.

 

My insurance company agent is not helpful.  They are wanting appraisals, receipts, pictures, descriptions, maybe an inspection and possibly security measures for the observatory.  I asked who would be able to appraise said equipment.  Silence.  I know what some of the current cost is for some of it as it is still being produced.  However, some of it is no longer being produced (like my 1200GTO mount).  As I have been doing this for 45 years, I have a pretty good idea as to value.  I also offered that some was purchased private party, no receipts or they are long gone, or it was say 12 years ago.  They are not helping to solve a problem they created and I am getting somewhat frustrated.

 

So, how do people insure equipment?  I don't need to know who has what or the value, just how is specific equipment covered.

 

Thanks for any useful information.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

 


Re: OT Equipment insurance

Steven
 

Hi Mike,

I use a well-established Insurance Broker for ALL my insurance including astronomy, IT, aircraft, as well as household, buildings and personal/accident, etc. A broker has access to many different insurers and can explain their policies and how to make claims, what they'll need, etc. That is the way to do it. Insurance companies direct cannot be relied on unless you happen to really be in the know how they do things, and if you should have a claim, a broker will ascertain that you get the best service, and better sleep. Premium costs are not much higher - an unpaid claim can exceed anything you could pay in premiums.

Steve


From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Shade <mshade@q.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 January 2020 7:09 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: [ap-gto] OT Equipment insurance
 

I am having a bit of a problem with my insurance company.  Like many I have a few telescopes, mounts, and associated equipment.  I was told that the equipment was covered under the "personal property" section of my policy and I increased my coverage a year ago to cover the estimated value.  My wife offered recently that I double check to make sure since the equipment is in an observatory on the property.

 

My insurance company agent is not helpful.  They are wanting appraisals, receipts, pictures, descriptions, maybe an inspection and possibly security measures for the observatory.  I asked who would be able to appraise said equipment.  Silence.  I know what some of the current cost is for some of it as it is still being produced.  However, some of it is no longer being produced (like my 1200GTO mount).  As I have been doing this for 45 years, I have a pretty good idea as to value.  I also offered that some was purchased private party, no receipts or they are long gone, or it was say 12 years ago.  They are not helping to solve a problem they created and I am getting somewhat frustrated.

 

So, how do people insure equipment?  I don't need to know who has what or the value, just how is specific equipment covered.

 

Thanks for any useful information.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

 


OT Equipment insurance

Mike Shade
 

I am having a bit of a problem with my insurance company.  Like many I have a few telescopes, mounts, and associated equipment.  I was told that the equipment was covered under the "personal property" section of my policy and I increased my coverage a year ago to cover the estimated value.  My wife offered recently that I double check to make sure since the equipment is in an observatory on the property.

 

My insurance company agent is not helpful.  They are wanting appraisals, receipts, pictures, descriptions, maybe an inspection and possibly security measures for the observatory.  I asked who would be able to appraise said equipment.  Silence.  I know what some of the current cost is for some of it as it is still being produced.  However, some of it is no longer being produced (like my 1200GTO mount).  As I have been doing this for 45 years, I have a pretty good idea as to value.  I also offered that some was purchased private party, no receipts or they are long gone, or it was say 12 years ago.  They are not helping to solve a problem they created and I am getting somewhat frustrated.

 

So, how do people insure equipment?  I don't need to know who has what or the value, just how is specific equipment covered.

 

Thanks for any useful information.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

 


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Roland Christen
 

The new keypad requires a CP4, will not work with the CP3.
In order to take full advantage of all the new keypad features, the CP4 will need the latest software download which is quick and easy to do over the internet.

Roland



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Berta <biker123@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jan 14, 2020 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Roland....I have both a 900 CP3 and 1100 mount with CP4. Once the keypad is updated to this new version will it still work with the CP3 box? Both CP 3 and 4 and hand controller are already updated t the latest version of firmware.


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Robert Berta
 

Roland....I have both a 900 CP3 and 1100 mount with CP4. Once the keypad is updated to this new version will it still work with the CP3 box? Both CP 3 and 4 and hand controller are already updated t the latest version of firmware.


Re: Cleanly forcing the driver to exit: WAS:: RE: [ap-gto] Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Jerome A Yesavage
 

Thanks Ray, I have made note of this.  Since your last comment and my checking of that advanced setting, has been opening and closing properly. 

The code snippet is helpful anyhow as it is another piece of programming know-how to archive. 

I'll be posting a few more questions as we are fine-tuning the system. 

Thanks again,

JY