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ENOUGH ON TEAM VIEWER

Mike Shade
 

Seriously, how many hundred messages are needed on this?  Enough already.

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 

 


Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

dvjbaja
 

Chrome Remote is great. 

Jg



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note9, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Dale Ghent <daleg@...>
Date: 12/30/19 12:18 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups


Gosh, this thread had turned into another take on Groundhog Day. Someone will make yet another complaint about TeamViewer, then there will be 10-15 follow-ups of affirmations and mentions of who uses what as a replacement for TeamViewer. I think the topic is quite well-settled now. TV sucks; use something else as there are a plethora of options; move on.


> On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
>
> We use teamviewer and anydesk as alternates/backups
>
> i didn't know google had a remote option as well, that looks interesting
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:24 AM Joe Zeglinski <J.Zeglinski@...> wrote:
> Eric,
>
>     I tried replacing TeamViewer with TightVNC, but didn’t want to mess with the target site router’s settings, every time I added someone that I help.
>
>     Also, presently trying ANYDESK as a TV replacement – but the major problem there is that there is no way to limit communications,  just to the local WiFi wireless LAN. It requires sending screen data all the way to Germany and back, just to talk to my BACKYARD telescope laptop.
> TeamViewer has the handy option to accept connections exclusively (or in addition) to the local WiFi.
>
>     Wish ANYDESK had this option, since I don’t want to degrade screen speed going all the way across the planet, and relying on all the internet conection problems, and signal drop-outs,  just to watch my mouse cursor move ! Local WiFi connection is far more reliable.
>
>     Is there any other (free license), remote desktop program, that provides a local WiFi connection to the telescope, as TV does?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> --
> Brian
>
>
>
> Brian Valente
> portfolio brianvalentephotography.com
>





Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

Dale Ghent
 

Gosh, this thread had turned into another take on Groundhog Day. Someone will make yet another complaint about TeamViewer, then there will be 10-15 follow-ups of affirmations and mentions of who uses what as a replacement for TeamViewer. I think the topic is quite well-settled now. TV sucks; use something else as there are a plethora of options; move on.

On Dec 30, 2019, at 2:34 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:

We use teamviewer and anydesk as alternates/backups

i didn't know google had a remote option as well, that looks interesting

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:24 AM Joe Zeglinski <J.Zeglinski@...> wrote:
Eric,

I tried replacing TeamViewer with TightVNC, but didn’t want to mess with the target site router’s settings, every time I added someone that I help.

Also, presently trying ANYDESK as a TV replacement – but the major problem there is that there is no way to limit communications, just to the local WiFi wireless LAN. It requires sending screen data all the way to Germany and back, just to talk to my BACKYARD telescope laptop.
TeamViewer has the handy option to accept connections exclusively (or in addition) to the local WiFi.

Wish ANYDESK had this option, since I don’t want to degrade screen speed going all the way across the planet, and relying on all the internet conection problems, and signal drop-outs, just to watch my mouse cursor move ! Local WiFi connection is far more reliable.

Is there any other (free license), remote desktop program, that provides a local WiFi connection to the telescope, as TV does?

Joe




--
Brian



Brian Valente
portfolio brianvalentephotography.com


Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

steve.winston@...
 

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:24 AM, Joe Zeglinski wrote:
Is there any other (free license), remote desktop program, that provides a local WiFi connection to the telescope, as TV does?
If you're on Windows 10 Pro then remote desktop works well.  I recently switched to it from TV for my local obs.


Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

 

We use teamviewer and anydesk as alternates/backups

i didn't know google had a remote option as well, that looks interesting 

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 11:24 AM Joe Zeglinski <J.Zeglinski@...> wrote:
Eric,
 
    I tried replacing TeamViewer with TightVNC, but didn’t want to mess with the target site router’s settings, every time I added someone that I help.
 
    Also, presently trying ANYDESK as a TV replacement – but the major problem there is that there is no way to limit communications,  just to the local WiFi wireless LAN. It requires sending screen data all the way to Germany and back, just to talk to my BACKYARD telescope laptop.
TeamViewer has the handy option to accept connections exclusively (or in addition) to the local WiFi.
 
    Wish ANYDESK had this option, since I don’t want to degrade screen speed going all the way across the planet, and relying on all the internet conection problems, and signal drop-outs,  just to watch my mouse cursor move ! Local WiFi connection is far more reliable.
 
    Is there any other (free license), remote desktop program, that provides a local WiFi connection to the telescope, as TV does?
 
Joe



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

Joe Zeglinski
 

Eric,
 
    I tried replacing TeamViewer with TightVNC, but didn’t want to mess with the target site router’s settings, every time I added someone that I help.
 
    Also, presently trying ANYDESK as a TV replacement – but the major problem there is that there is no way to limit communications,  just to the local WiFi wireless LAN. It requires sending screen data all the way to Germany and back, just to talk to my BACKYARD telescope laptop.
TeamViewer has the handy option to accept connections exclusively (or in addition) to the local WiFi.
 
    Wish ANYDESK had this option, since I don’t want to degrade screen speed going all the way across the planet, and relying on all the internet conection problems, and signal drop-outs,  just to watch my mouse cursor move ! Local WiFi connection is far more reliable.
 
    Is there any other (free license), remote desktop program, that provides a local WiFi connection to the telescope, as TV does?
 
Joe


Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

Eric Coles
 

I have had continuous issues with TeamViewer and have given up.

Currently I use Chrome Remote Desktop and it works seamlessly. My backup is AnyDesk. My backup-backup is to call the techs at the remote site. :-)


Re: Driver/APCC Updates

 

Steve

FYI you can use a change tracker to be notified via email if anything on a page has changed. There are many out there but i use visualping - it's free for a limited number of web pages and checks

I find these are great for tracking new version updates on various software platforms i use

Brian


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Worsel
 

Brian

THANKS as well!



Bryan


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

 

I talked with Ray at AIC and he informed me he has been tweaking APPM so that he can get upwards of 20 min unguided exposures, and is working towards longer unguided

of course, mileage varies depending on pixel scale, etc. but it was pretty clear to me it's an area of interest and effort for Ray


On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 8:32 AM Worsel via Groups.Io <bryancashion=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
As I understand the APCC info, APPM only works with APCC-Pro (I have Standard and it has been GREAT!).  APPM is a module that just allows APCC-Pro to talk to one of several external plate solvers.  I model and plate solve now with Cartes du Ciel and Astrotortilla, BUT I do require guiding to get tight stars.  Hence, the drift correction functionality is of most interest.

I would upgrade to APCC_Pro, IF that allows unguided imaging even without AE.

Bryan



--
Brian 



Brian Valente


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Worsel
 

THANKS!


Bryan


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Roland Christen
 


IF that allows unguided imaging even without AE.
Unguided imaging is possible if you have a good PE curve that eliminates periodic error down to 1 arc sec. levels. When we test our mounts, typically we can get the 1100/1600 down below 1 arc sec., the mach1 is not quite that low but close. So it will depend on your scope's focal length, the exposure time, your pixel scale etc. These will determine whether you get reasonably round stars.

Unguided imaging can actually be better than guided in some instances, especially in Dec since there will not be any backlash effect. Dec will slowly move as required by the model and never reverse direction or overshoot or oscillate about the center point.

The practical exposure time will depend on pixel scale.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Worsel via Groups.Io <bryancashion@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Dec 30, 2019 10:33 am
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

As I understand the APCC info, APPM only works with APCC-Pro (I have Standard and it has been GREAT!).  APPM is a module that just allows APCC-Pro to talk to one of several external plate solvers.  I model and plate solve now with Cartes du Ciel and Astrotortilla, BUT I do require guiding to get tight stars.  Hence, the drift correction functionality is of most interest.

I would upgrade to APCC_Pro, IF that allows unguided imaging even without AE.

Bryan


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Worsel
 

As I understand the APCC info, APPM only works with APCC-Pro (I have Standard and it has been GREAT!).  APPM is a module that just allows APCC-Pro to talk to one of several external plate solvers.  I model and plate solve now with Cartes du Ciel and Astrotortilla, BUT I do require guiding to get tight stars.  Hence, the drift correction functionality is of most interest.

I would upgrade to APCC_Pro, IF that allows unguided imaging even without AE.

Bryan


Re: Off topic question

Terri Zittritsch
 

A non-optical professional opinion is to send back to ES to have them readjust and align.   They have been pretty responsive for me.    I had an adjustable cell 102mm, one of their first, and thought I could make it better by adjusting it ...  Mine was the very original version with radial adjustments on 2 of 3 lenses, versus newer ones with front adjustments for what seems like tilt for the entire cell.   It was beyond my ability.    Not sure which one yours is.    

best,
Terri


Off topic question

Suresh Mohan
 

A friend of mine has an explore scientific Ed 80 which developed fungus on the inside , he removed the front two elements ( third is deeper and untouched ) applied Bausch & Lomb fungus remover and glass looks clean . After putting back the lenses and spacers the stars look like comets . How to rectify the problem
Thanks in advance
Suresh


Hand controller failed me

Suresh Mohan
 

After monsoon ( about 3 months )we went for a drive to a dark site. The HC let me down and wouldn’t let me input my location even after several re start . Ran the mount thro laptop . Came back home opened hc , simply removed and re inserted the coiled cable connection and now seems to work well . Maybe it’s time to order another cable
Suresh


Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Joseph Beyer
 

Lots of good information here.  It sounds like setting up and running APPM before imaging is straight forward.  Since Pinpoint is one of the listed plate solving programs used by APPM is it possible to use Voyager as the camera control program?  Looks like I'd need to go camera shopping tho... 

Joe 

On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 2:09 PM uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io <chris1011=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
This is a keypad software upgrade to make the keypad more versatile. APCC/APPM is already fully versatile, no need to upgrade it.

APCC has its own modeling capability in APPM which is more powerful for all-sky modeling. It is also faster because it is basically hands-off automatic. You set the program up, walk away and come back in 1/2 hour, 45 minutes, and you have an all-sky model which then gives you pointing, drift correction, etc.

With the keypad version we are trying to plug a gap for those who have rudimentary equipment, maybe just a digital camera and no guider, no computer, or just limited extraneous apps that show where the mount is pointing using an app on your smartphone via wifi. Yes, you can also use the keypad tracking and pointing functions with a laptop, a planetarium program and image capture (Maxim DL or PHD2).

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: Worsel via Groups.Io <bryancashion=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Dec 29, 2019 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: Upgrade to new keypad version (was RE: [ap-gto] Unguided imaging with Mach2) #Keypad

Are the new modelling/drift control capabilities only available via the new hand control or will they somehow be available via APPC or AP driver?  I do not have a hand control.

Bryan

1100 GT (non-AE)


Anyone looking to downsize? My Mach1 for your 1100 (partial trade).

Tyrel Smith
 

Hello all. I know it's a long shot, but just curious if anyone is looking to downsize their mount and consider a partial trade of my Mach 1 (CP3-V2) for your 1100. I have 1.875" counterweight shaft upgrade on the Mach1, so a swap would be pretty simple and limited to just the core necessities (just head and cables, head and control box, etc.). I don't have to have CP4. Shoot me a message if interested. I wanted to try this approach before setting up an ad on AM and CN.

Cheers,

Ty


Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

r1300rs
 

I’ve been using Real VNC for many years, better screen cast than team viewer.


Re: Driver/APCC Updates

 

I have updated the website links. The ASCOM driver link goes directly to Ray’s webpage and the released version is current.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Steve Reilly
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:32 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Driver/APCC Updates

 

I was looking at the AP website to see if they carried over the notification announcements like they did with the old site and noticed that the Software update page is outdated. It lists and older ASCOM driver and version of APCC. Just saying…Is the notification page still in existence? If not, is there a new run of Stowaways headed out door anytime soon?

 

 

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