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Unguided imaging with Mach2

Roland Christen
 

Hello Astro geeks,

I had a window of opportunity to image just before Christmas with reasonable temps where i wasn't freezing my fingertips.
I did a better polar alignment and ran a very quick model with just 3 points. One was on a star near NGC7331 and the other two points were on either side about 1 hour apart. The object was 3 hours past the meridian in the West, so with no guiding and no model there was some drifting in both Ra and Dec (Dec is up in the image). The first picture shows closeup of the center and you can see the egg shape after a 5 min exposure (no guide, no model):

To be continued


Re: GTO CP3 Problem

pepineus
 

Hi, good evening here,

Thanks for the advice Roland, I will take your advice seriously about the CP4, even thought my mount is an oldie AP900. With regards to my problem, do you think I could solve it by upgrading the chip to the latest V2 unit? should I also change the serial chip as others are suggesting? 

I have checked the subtitution instructions for the ROM, and I feel I could do it myself, but I wonder if this will solve my problem. Anyway, I will open the CP3 unit and check which chip type is in there.

Thanks Christopher, Don for chiming in. Renan, the serial-USB adapter I am using was purchased from AP some yeras ago, I own 2 units and checked them both, seem to work fine.

As I said, will look inside and report back.

Josep


Re: Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Ray Gralak
 

George had me uncheck the Auto-Conf and check the Auto-Connect. Seems to work better with both checked.
What works better? Connecting APCC to the driver does nothing but keep the driver running even if there are no clients using the driver.

Any reason why not?
When APCC is connected to the driver when no ASCOM clients are using the driver it just wastes disk space for both (APCC and the driver) logs.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerome A Yesavage
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 12:58 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Thanks Ray,

George had me uncheck the Auto-Conf and check the Auto-Connect. Seems to work better with both checked.
Any reason why not?

Seems you need this to automatically connect with various components that start in APC

Comms 21 and 22 came back after I rebooted the machine.

JY


Re: Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Jerome A Yesavage
 

Thanks Ray,

George had me uncheck the Auto-Conf and check the Auto-Connect.  Seems to work better with both checked.  Any reason why not? 

Seems you need this to automatically connect with various components that start in APC

Comms 21 and 22 came back after I rebooted the machine. 

JY


Re: Mach1 - remove/reinstall motor

Roland Christen
 

First remove the right hand screw along with the washer. This loosens the tension on the spring. Next remove the left hand screw and washer. Now pull the gearbox away from the worm wheel.

When you re-assemble the gearbox, start with the left hand screw+ washer, and place the spring under that screw first. Then attach the right hand screw + washer and make sure that the spring is under that screw.

NOTE: When you re-assemble the gearbox onto the mount be sure to always place the washers under the two screws.

If you fail to use the washers, the screws might end up going too far into the housing and make contact with the underside of the worm wheel.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Pierre Henrotay <Pierre.Henrotay@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Dec 27, 2019 11:42 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Mach1 - remove/reinstall motor

to put it simple : which is which (might sound stupid, but...) ?


Re: Mach1 - remove/reinstall motor

Pierre Henrotay
 

to put it simple : which is which (might sound stupid, but...) ?


Mach1 - remove/reinstall motor

Pierre Henrotay
 

Dear,

I have Mach1 mount, bought end 2007. So the earliest model.
I am thinking of regreasing the mount and look at the various documents available.

One of these is named

Removing and Re-installing the Motor / Gearbox on your Mach1GTO (07-30-08) - PDF Document - For all Mach1GTO mounts produced prior to July 2014 (serial # M10670)..

and can be found here

https://astro-physics.info/tech_support/mounts/mach1gto/gearbox-off-on.pdf

The document refers to RIGHT and LEFT bolts but I am not 100 % sure of which is which.
The text says: "the bolt near the reduction gearbox" as being RIGHT
but also "the one that would have been closest to the cable connection"
If this last sentence refers to the DIN (?) connector, this seems to be contradicting.
Can someone clarify please ?

Regards to all,
Pierre


Re: Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Joe Zeglinski
 

Jerome,
 
    Visit the FTDI website, the company who makes the serial/USB adapter chips for various adapter brands. There is a Windows utility that you can use to re-assign FTDI serial ports addresses to whatever number you need. Very handy.
FTDI Com Port Assignment:
 
    Easiest way to assign – or reassign - an FTDI serial COM port address  to whatever port number you need it to be, or see what ports are already assigned, without messing with Device Manager, etc.
 
    Also, handy – a Win-XP & Win-8/10  Com Port Monitor  desktop “ GADGET” utility.
 
    I use both, very handy. Even though GADGETS are no longer (officially) supported in Win-10, this one works, if you install Microsoft’s GADGET conversion fix, which you might be offered as a warning/pop-up. No problem.
 
    However, if your adapter uses a PROLIFIC chip instead, sorry, my sympathies with that choice.
 
Joe Z.
 
 

From: Jerome A Yesavage
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 12:03 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports
 
Hi,

I have a Mach1 with the latest APCC.  The mount is on Comm 5 via USB and George had me set up two virtual Ports at 21 and 22.  I am using ACP and the virtual ports do not connect automatically.  It appears I have lost them and I now have Comm 6 and 7.  The Mount connects to the USB Port, but the AP Virtual drivers do not, automatically or manually.  I tried to delete the virtual ports and that does not work either. 

Any suggestions on this as nobody is in the office for a couple days, just had to rebuild the system....

Happy New Year,

JY


Re: Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Ray Gralak
 

The mount is on Comm 5 via USB and George had me set up two virtual
Ports at 21 and 22. I am using ACP and the virtual ports do not connect automatically. It appears I have lost them
and I now have Comm 6 and 7. The Mount connects to the USB Port, but the AP Virtual drivers do not,
automatically or manually. I tried to delete the virtual ports and that does not work either.
It doesn't matter which COM ports are used for the virtual ports if you set the APCC connect configuration as in the attached screenshot.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerome A Yesavage
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 9:03 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Hi,

I have a Mach1 with the latest APCC. The mount is on Comm 5 via USB and George had me set up two virtual
Ports at 21 and 22. I am using ACP and the virtual ports do not connect automatically. It appears I have lost them
and I now have Comm 6 and 7. The Mount connects to the USB Port, but the AP Virtual drivers do not,
automatically or manually. I tried to delete the virtual ports and that does not work either.

Any suggestions on this as nobody is in the office for a couple days, just had to rebuild the system....

Happy New Year,

JY


Cannot Seem to Keep the Same Virtual Ports

Jerome A Yesavage
 

Hi,

I have a Mach1 with the latest APCC.  The mount is on Comm 5 via USB and George had me set up two virtual Ports at 21 and 22.  I am using ACP and the virtual ports do not connect automatically.  It appears I have lost them and I now have Comm 6 and 7.  The Mount connects to the USB Port, but the AP Virtual drivers do not, automatically or manually.  I tried to delete the virtual ports and that does not work either. 

Any suggestions on this as nobody is in the office for a couple days, just had to rebuild the system....

Happy New Year,

JY


Re: GTO CP3 Problem

Don Anderson
 

Josep
As Chris pointed out, you can replace the Serial chip quite easily. They are relatively cheap. Maybe at the same time, you might consider upgrading the CP3 firmware to Rev V. Installing the chips is quite easy to do. Check the AP website on the cost. You or a tech savvy friend should have no problem doing it.  

Don Anderson


On Thursday, December 26, 2019, 10:55:39 a.m. MST, Christopher Erickson <christopher.k.erickson@...> wrote:


In my CP3's the serial driver chip (MAX238CNG)  that connects directly to the two serial ports is socketed so if the chip is damaged by static electricity or such, it can be replaced by the user. Nobody else but AP sockets their driver chips! AP is awesome!

If you decide to order a new chip (or four) and install it yourself, maybe take an extra moment to review your setup and try to figure out how the chip was damaged by ESD and how to prevent it from happening again.

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:15 AM Renan Van De Wyngard <renanvdw@...> wrote:

Josep,

 

Did you try with a different serial-usb adapter? (FTDI chip)

 

 

From: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io
Sent: jueves, 26 de diciembre de 2019 13:58
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO CP3 Problem

 

We can fix the CP3 so it will work again. However, it is old technology and you may want to invest in the CP4 which has all new software and will allow new features to be loaded via an internet connection.

 

Rolando

 

-----Original Message-----
From: pepineus <tromouse@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 6:25 am
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO CP3 Problem

Dear AP friends,

I am the owner of a AP900 GTO CP3 mount and a GT130 OTA. I waited in the long-line for many years to get the GT, and I use it mainly for imaging. The APM is a different story, I purchased it second hand from a guy who was working offshore near my hometown in Barcelona. After I purchased this mount almost all my problems with previous mounts went away. From the very first day, I noticed the upper serial port did not seem to work (could not find a COM port working for it). However the lower port did seem to work nicely: at a ceratin COM, the AP driver detected the CP3 "Rev I" unit.

However in the last couple of years I found the driver got hung up and my imaging runs were frequently ruined. I discarded software problems by setting up a different computer and trying different Microsoft OS (W7, W10). I am using SkyX, Maxim DL, and CCD Commander. The hung ups always look the same: I can attest this by checking the Windows Task administrator, where the AP Driver is shown as "not responding". I have tried again many times to search for the upper serial port, but is does not seem to respond. This has become a serious limitation now. I recently discovered that the lower port might present its own limitations, and I wonder if this might be reason behing what I am experiencing.

I recently purchased a CP2 unit for little money, which I will try. Given the basic things I am nowadays doing, I believe it will suffice, but I am wondering if AP will service my CP3 unit, and if it would, if it is really worth it. I would actually purchase the CP4, but it is a more relevant investment, this is something I might eventually do.

If you have read so far, thanks. Hopefully I will soon get the CP2 I just got,

Merry Christmas and wish you a great new year,

Josep M.

 


Re: GTO CP3 Problem

Christopher Erickson
 

In my CP3's the serial driver chip (MAX238CNG)  that connects directly to the two serial ports is socketed so if the chip is damaged by static electricity or such, it can be replaced by the user. Nobody else but AP sockets their driver chips! AP is awesome!

If you decide to order a new chip (or four) and install it yourself, maybe take an extra moment to review your setup and try to figure out how the chip was damaged by ESD and how to prevent it from happening again.

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
   

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 7:15 AM Renan Van De Wyngard <renanvdw@...> wrote:

Josep,

 

Did you try with a different serial-usb adapter? (FTDI chip)

 

 

From: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io
Sent: jueves, 26 de diciembre de 2019 13:58
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO CP3 Problem

 

We can fix the CP3 so it will work again. However, it is old technology and you may want to invest in the CP4 which has all new software and will allow new features to be loaded via an internet connection.

 

Rolando

 

-----Original Message-----
From: pepineus <tromouse@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 6:25 am
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO CP3 Problem

Dear AP friends,

I am the owner of a AP900 GTO CP3 mount and a GT130 OTA. I waited in the long-line for many years to get the GT, and I use it mainly for imaging. The APM is a different story, I purchased it second hand from a guy who was working offshore near my hometown in Barcelona. After I purchased this mount almost all my problems with previous mounts went away. From the very first day, I noticed the upper serial port did not seem to work (could not find a COM port working for it). However the lower port did seem to work nicely: at a ceratin COM, the AP driver detected the CP3 "Rev I" unit.

However in the last couple of years I found the driver got hung up and my imaging runs were frequently ruined. I discarded software problems by setting up a different computer and trying different Microsoft OS (W7, W10). I am using SkyX, Maxim DL, and CCD Commander. The hung ups always look the same: I can attest this by checking the Windows Task administrator, where the AP Driver is shown as "not responding". I have tried again many times to search for the upper serial port, but is does not seem to respond. This has become a serious limitation now. I recently discovered that the lower port might present its own limitations, and I wonder if this might be reason behing what I am experiencing.

I recently purchased a CP2 unit for little money, which I will try. Given the basic things I am nowadays doing, I believe it will suffice, but I am wondering if AP will service my CP3 unit, and if it would, if it is really worth it. I would actually purchase the CP4, but it is a more relevant investment, this is something I might eventually do.

If you have read so far, thanks. Hopefully I will soon get the CP2 I just got,

Merry Christmas and wish you a great new year,

Josep M.

 


Re: GTO CP3 Problem

Renan
 

Josep,

 

Did you try with a different serial-usb adapter? (FTDI chip)

 

 

From: uncarollo2 <chris1011@...> via Groups.Io
Sent: jueves, 26 de diciembre de 2019 13:58
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO CP3 Problem

 

We can fix the CP3 so it will work again. However, it is old technology and you may want to invest in the CP4 which has all new software and will allow new features to be loaded via an internet connection.

 

Rolando

 

-----Original Message-----
From: pepineus <tromouse@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 6:25 am
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO CP3 Problem

Dear AP friends,

I am the owner of a AP900 GTO CP3 mount and a GT130 OTA. I waited in the long-line for many years to get the GT, and I use it mainly for imaging. The APM is a different story, I purchased it second hand from a guy who was working offshore near my hometown in Barcelona. After I purchased this mount almost all my problems with previous mounts went away. From the very first day, I noticed the upper serial port did not seem to work (could not find a COM port working for it). However the lower port did seem to work nicely: at a ceratin COM, the AP driver detected the CP3 "Rev I" unit.

However in the last couple of years I found the driver got hung up and my imaging runs were frequently ruined. I discarded software problems by setting up a different computer and trying different Microsoft OS (W7, W10). I am using SkyX, Maxim DL, and CCD Commander. The hung ups always look the same: I can attest this by checking the Windows Task administrator, where the AP Driver is shown as "not responding". I have tried again many times to search for the upper serial port, but is does not seem to respond. This has become a serious limitation now. I recently discovered that the lower port might present its own limitations, and I wonder if this might be reason behing what I am experiencing.

I recently purchased a CP2 unit for little money, which I will try. Given the basic things I am nowadays doing, I believe it will suffice, but I am wondering if AP will service my CP3 unit, and if it would, if it is really worth it. I would actually purchase the CP4, but it is a more relevant investment, this is something I might eventually do.

If you have read so far, thanks. Hopefully I will soon get the CP2 I just got,

Merry Christmas and wish you a great new year,

Josep M.

 


Re: GTO CP3 Problem

Roland Christen
 

We can fix the CP3 so it will work again. However, it is old technology and you may want to invest in the CP4 which has all new software and will allow new features to be loaded via an internet connection.

Rolando

-----Original Message-----
From: pepineus <tromouse@...>
To: main <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Dec 25, 2019 6:25 am
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO CP3 Problem

Dear AP friends,

I am the owner of a AP900 GTO CP3 mount and a GT130 OTA. I waited in the long-line for many years to get the GT, and I use it mainly for imaging. The APM is a different story, I purchased it second hand from a guy who was working offshore near my hometown in Barcelona. After I purchased this mount almost all my problems with previous mounts went away. From the very first day, I noticed the upper serial port did not seem to work (could not find a COM port working for it). However the lower port did seem to work nicely: at a ceratin COM, the AP driver detected the CP3 "Rev I" unit.

However in the last couple of years I found the driver got hung up and my imaging runs were frequently ruined. I discarded software problems by setting up a different computer and trying different Microsoft OS (W7, W10). I am using SkyX, Maxim DL, and CCD Commander. The hung ups always look the same: I can attest this by checking the Windows Task administrator, where the AP Driver is shown as "not responding". I have tried again many times to search for the upper serial port, but is does not seem to respond. This has become a serious limitation now. I recently discovered that the lower port might present its own limitations, and I wonder if this might be reason behing what I am experiencing.

I recently purchased a CP2 unit for little money, which I will try. Given the basic things I am nowadays doing, I believe it will suffice, but I am wondering if AP will service my CP3 unit, and if it would, if it is really worth it. I would actually purchase the CP4, but it is a more relevant investment, this is something I might eventually do.

If you have read so far, thanks. Hopefully I will soon get the CP2 I just got,

Merry Christmas and wish you a great new year,

Josep M.


Re: GTO CP3 Problem

pepineus
 

In case it helps, this is what I could retrieve from the log in the AP drivers after the problem occurs,

399994 2019-12-25 19:59:19.948:            ASCOM: Info      : GET AtPark = False
399995 2019-12-25 19:59:19.972:            ASCOM: Info      : GET RightAscension = 1.58305555555556
399996 2019-12-25 19:59:19.972:            ASCOM: Info      : GET Declination = 30.7602777777778
399997 2019-12-25 19:59:19.973:            ASCOM: Info      : GET SideOfPier = West
399998 2019-12-25 19:59:19.974:            ASCOM: Info      : GET Tracking = True
399999 2019-12-25 19:59:19.974:           Driver: Info      : CommandString TX=':GD#'
400000 2019-12-25 19:59:20.481:        Telescope: Warning   : Retransmits: 15
400001 2019-12-25 19:59:20.481:           Driver: Error     : CommandString: NO Response or bad response: ':GD#', Response='' -> Retrying!
400002 2019-12-25 19:59:20.492:            ASCOM: Info      : GET Slewing = False


GTO CP3 Problem

pepineus
 

Dear AP friends,

I am the owner of a AP900 GTO CP3 mount and a GT130 OTA. I waited in the long-line for many years to get the GT, and I use it mainly for imaging. The APM is a different story, I purchased it second hand from a guy who was working offshore near my hometown in Barcelona. After I purchased this mount almost all my problems with previous mounts went away. From the very first day, I noticed the upper serial port did not seem to work (could not find a COM port working for it). However the lower port did seem to work nicely: at a ceratin COM, the AP driver detected the CP3 "Rev I" unit.

However in the last couple of years I found the driver got hung up and my imaging runs were frequently ruined. I discarded software problems by setting up a different computer and trying different Microsoft OS (W7, W10). I am using SkyX, Maxim DL, and CCD Commander. The hung ups always look the same: I can attest this by checking the Windows Task administrator, where the AP Driver is shown as "not responding". I have tried again many times to search for the upper serial port, but is does not seem to respond. This has become a serious limitation now. I recently discovered that the lower port might present its own limitations, and I wonder if this might be reason behing what I am experiencing.

I recently purchased a CP2 unit for little money, which I will try. Given the basic things I am nowadays doing, I believe it will suffice, but I am wondering if AP will service my CP3 unit, and if it would, if it is really worth it. I would actually purchase the CP4, but it is a more relevant investment, this is something I might eventually do.

If you have read so far, thanks. Hopefully I will soon get the CP2 I just got,

Merry Christmas and wish you a great new year,

Josep M.


Re: Happy Holidays from Astro-Physics!

Wayne Hixson
 

Merry Christmas to the extended Astro-Physics family!

Wayne


On Dec 24, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Harley Davidson <astrocnc@...> wrote:

 MERRY CHRISTMAS
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On 12/24/2019 6:23 PM, Marj Christen wrote:
All of us at Astro-Physics wish you and your families a very happy holiday season! We very much appreciate your support and friendship over the years and look forward to 2020.

Our office will be closed on these dates during this holiday season: December 24, 25, 31 and January 1.
--
Marj Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Happy Holidays from Astro-Physics!

Harley Davidson
 

MERRY CHRISTMAS


On 12/24/2019 6:23 PM, Marj Christen wrote:
All of us at Astro-Physics wish you and your families a very happy holiday season! We very much appreciate your support and friendship over the years and look forward to 2020.

Our office will be closed on these dates during this holiday season: December 24, 25, 31 and January 1.
--
Marj Christen
Astro-Physics


Happy Holidays from Astro-Physics!

 

All of us at Astro-Physics wish you and your families a very happy holiday season! We very much appreciate your support and friendship over the years and look forward to 2020.

Our office will be closed on these dates during this holiday season: December 24, 25, 31 and January 1.
--
Marj Christen
Astro-Physics


Re: Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

dvjbaja
 

Yes, fast and reliable, free. 



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy Note9, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Steve Reilly <sreilly24590@...>
Date: 12/24/19 7:37 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

Has anyone tried Chrome Remote Desktop? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-remote-desktop/gbchcmhmhahfdphkhkmpfmihenigjmpp

 

Just curious…

 

-Steve

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Bresler via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:03 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Off Topic - repetitive TeamViewer Screw-ups

 

Aren't there various other programs that permit remote computer access? Companies have used these to troubleshoot my computer. One that comes to mind is Fastsupport? I know there are others. Probably not free, but may be worth the price.

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