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Re: APPM error message

Peter Bresler
 

Here are various screen shots of appm and sgp. I do have Teamviewer and Internet access at the computer that controls the scope (which I now am at), so you could take over the whole thing!

The scope is in an observatory; rain clouds have moved in, which may be here for several day. On PST here.

Peter


Re: Power Supply for Imaging at Remote Locations

Joel Short
 

Allen,
You're right that a battery has a certain rated capacity (40AH in your example), but a lead acid battery should not be discharged less than 50% on a regular basis or it will greatly reduce the longevity of the battery exponentially.  That means that same 40AH lead acid battery has a usable capacity of 20AH.  By contrast, a LiFePO4 battery can be discharged 95% on a regular basis, so a 40AH LiFePO4 battery has a usable capacity of 38AH, nearly double the lead acid battery with the same rated capacity.  And, that LiFePO4 battery can be used far longer (charging cycles) than a lead acid type.  
joel

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 4:48 PM Allen Ruckle <aruckle@...> wrote:
Joel,  
      A 40 ah battery of any type has a useable capacity of 40 ah.  The greatest benefit of the lithium battery is reduced weight .  The equipment powered from the battery can be the determining factor in the full use of the total rated battery capacity.  The equipment will stop working 

Allen Ruckle
Project Manager 
Southland Electric inc.


Re: Power Supply for Imaging at Remote Locations

Allen Ruckle
 

Joel,  
      A 40 ah battery of any type has a useable capacity of 40 ah.  The greatest benefit of the lithium battery is reduced weight .  The equipment powered from the battery can be the determining factor in the full use of the total rated battery capacity.  The equipment will stop working 

Allen Ruckle
Project Manager 
Southland Electric inc.



On Nov 21, 2019, at 5:58 AM, Joel Short <buckeyestargazer@...> wrote:


If you can afford it, LiFePO4 batteries are the way to go.  Traditional lead acid batteries shouldn't be discharged more than 50%; LiFePO4 batteries can be discharged to about 90% so you can a lot of capacity with the same amp hour rating.  They are also significantly lighter and easier to carry around.  I have an 80AH LiFePO4 battery and built a nice box for it based on an Apache 3800 case found at Harbor Freight.  This battery will power my whole setup for about 11hrs and discharge 70%.
joel
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:47 AM <mhambrick563@...> wrote:
Hi to All

Up until now, all of my imaging has been dome from my back yard where I have a reliable source of 110 VAC power. I am starting to investigate what is required to run everything off of 12V deep cycle batteries, and I would like to get some input from other users who do a lot of imaging from remote locations (or maybe California :>)) where there is no reliable source of power.

My imaging system is pretty typical of what most users have; Mount (1100GTO), Camera (SBIG STXL16200 with filter wheel), Dew heaters, Laptop, Electronic focuser, and Icron Ranger. I can easily imagine that such a system might require three separate batteries.

How are other users managing this ?


Re: WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

W Hilmo
 

For what it’s worth, I have had no trouble with the WiFi.

 

I have two use cases, visual and imaging.

 

When I am imaging, I have my laptop connected to the mount via Ethernet, but I have on occasion connected my iPhone to the CP4’s access point and done some ad-hoc control with SkySafari.  This is a fairly rare scenario, since my sessions are typically run either by CCDAP or SGP.  But it has always worked.

 

When I am doing visual work, I initialize the mount with the keypad, and then connect either my iPhone or iPad to the CP4’s access point and use SkySafari. In this scenario, I leave the device connected to the CP4 all night long.  I occasionally put the device (iPhone or iPad) to sleep while connected, and it always reconnects immediately when it wakes.

 

I’m sorry that there is nothing here to help the people who are having issues (and I know someone personally who is having disconnect problems that he’s not been able to resolve; I think that he’s given up on the wireless).  But I wanted to toss it out there as a data point that not everyone is having the problem.

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Howard Hedlund
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 2:05 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

 

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The problem we are having is a general inability to reproduce the issue.   George and I both have iPhones.  I also have an iPad Pro.  Liam has an Android phone as does our engineer.  All of us have Sky Safari (among other astro-software) on our devices.  We also all have laptops - both PC and Mac.  None of us can find a way to reliably reproduce the dropout issue here in house.

 

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Re: WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

Howard Hedlund
 

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 06:01 PM, Donald Rudny wrote:
Is AP investigating this issue?
We are most certainly investigating this.  The problem we are having is a general inability to reproduce the issue.   George and I both have iPhones.  I also have an iPad Pro.  Liam has an Android phone as does our engineer.  All of us have Sky Safari (among other astro-software) on our devices.  We also all have laptops - both PC and Mac.  None of us can find a way to reliably reproduce the dropout issue here in house.

For my own setup, My iPhone will disconnect from the mount if left idle for a while, but it reconnects immediately every time without a hitch as soon as I wake it up.  Same with the iPad Pro.

Liam suggested that we might want to investigate changing the WiFi channel in use.  We have done that here and it neither created nor solved the issue, but we haven't had the issue to begin with.  I would love it if any of you who are experiencing this dropout issue might try changing the channel in the Advanced WiFi page of the GTOCP4's internal web page. (Factory default is Ch. 3.)  Remember that changes will require a power-cycle of the GTOCP4 to take effect.  Let us know what you find - good or bad.  


Re: APPM error message

Howard Hedlund
 

On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 07:23 AM, Peter Bresler wrote:
If the software will not perform for the function for which I bought it, and I cannot get adequate support I am going to ask for a refund.
Peter, you are getting direct support from the software author.  Nevertheless, maybe I can be of further assistance.  



Please provide screenshots of the two tabs shown above as requested. 
Do you have Teamviewer on the mount's controlling PC?


Roland shows details on the new Mach2 in his personal observatory on the Big Island. #Mach2GTO #Absolute_Encoders

Christopher Erickson
 

Here are some more pics of the Mach2GTO, for your entertainment.

https://ap-gto.groups.io/g/main/album?id=213170

I made a few amateurish vids as well and will share the links after I edit them a bit and upload to YouTube.


Re: APPM error message

Steve Reilly
 

Peter at this point it’s a user’s error issue as it’s well established that the software works. But again, it would help immensely if you quoted the emails you’re replying to.

 

-Steve

 

 

From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Bresler via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 10:24 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM error message

 

That is not what he said. I tried last night with a ZWO 294 MC and had the same problem. At this point I wasted $250 for Pro. If the software will not perform for the function for which I bought it, and I cannot get adequate support I am going to ask for a refund.


Re: APPM error message

Peter Bresler
 
Edited

I set it to FIT and that did not solve the problem. I tried last night with a ZWO 294 MC and had the same problem. At this point I wasted $250 for Pro. If the software will not perform for the function for which I bought it, and I cannot get adequate support I am going to ask for a refund.


Re: WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

Donald Rudny
 

Is AP investigating this issue?  I have had occasional drops with my iPad and SkySafari won’t reconnect unless I reboot the CP4.  The iPad is still connected to the CP4 WiFi, but when I disconnect and reconnect it asks for the password and if I put it in, it won’t connect, so I park the scope with APCC and re-power the system and everything is good.  It is a rare occasional event, but my friend who has a Mach 1 and 1100 has frequent drops with the same symptoms.  I think he reported it to AP and they told him it was something with his system.  He just hard wires it now.  With all these reports, I’m not buying that it’s other things.  There must be something going on with the CP4.

Don

Don Rudny
P.O. Box 106
Pepeekeo, HI 96783-0106

312-209-5870

On Nov 25, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Robert Berta <biker123@...> wrote:

I have both the original SkyFi and also the latest version 3. The difference is the original used AdHoc wireless which wasn't supported with most Android devices but Iphone/Ipad worked. The latest version no longer uses AdHoc wireless so works great with Android....and over longer distances also. I use with Sky Safari with both a Samsung 7s phone and a Samsung tablet both running Android.
I still wish AP could get their CP4 wireless to work correctly.  I added a 1100 CP4 to my 900 CP3 for my observatory in the Summer of 2016. The wireless capability was one of the main plus points for going that way but sadly hasn't worked out. 
As noted in one of the my posts above....I have tested the AP CP4 extensively with Howard's suggestions and it didn't cure the problem. Oh well........


Re: WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

Kent10
 

I have the old Asus Nexus 7,  I'll have to give it a try.  I have been using the AP keypad but the database is somewhat limited and so I would like to get Sky Safari working too.


How to run Sky Safari on a Windows 10 PC

Robert Berta
 

COOL TIP ALERT:  I found that there is a free app called XePlayer (Google to find)  for Windows 10 PCs. It allows me to run any Android app flawlessly on a Win 10 PC. I use it to run Sky Safari Pro on my PC....it runs the mount via wireless (SkyFi)  with no issues other than I can't point the lap top at the sky to see what is there since the PC doesn't have a compass. The app creates a partition that is Android....just load any app from Play Store in it and runs great. All files are invisible to the PC file explorer. You need to also download a file viewer Android App from the PLAY STORE if you want to see those files. That free app was designed to run Android game apps on PCs but it works for any Android app. 
It is great that now I can run both imaging capture program and SkyFi from one computer instead of having to use a tablet or cell phone for the planetarium program and the image capture program (Maxim DL) from another laptop. 


Re: WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

Robert Berta
 

This will work with Ipad or Iphone but will NOT work with most Android Tablets or Phones since Android does not support AdHoc wireless with the exception of older ASUS Android tablets. The latest Sky/Fi 3 uses an improved wifi and now works fine with Android devices such as my Samsung Phone and Tablet. The settings you mentioned are the correct ones for either setup. The newer SkyFi also can be used at much longer distances and also has on board USB support for mounts that use that such as latest Celestron and Ioptron (which I also use). 


Re: WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

Kent10
 

Thanks Robert.  I didn't know that.  I use Android.  I am going to try my old SkyFi and if that doesn't work I will consider version 3 or should I get an ipad instead.  Unless someone figures out how to get the CP4 wifi to work consistently :o)


Re: WiFi Dropout Solution for Smart Devices (Sky Safari etc.) #WiFi

Robert Berta
 

I have both the original SkyFi and also the latest version 3. The difference is the original used AdHoc wireless which wasn't supported with most Android devices but Iphone/Ipad worked. The latest version no longer uses AdHoc wireless so works great with Android....and over longer distances also. I use with Sky Safari with both a Samsung 7s phone and a Samsung tablet both running Android.
I still wish AP could get their CP4 wireless to work correctly.  I added a 1100 CP4 to my 900 CP3 for my observatory in the Summer of 2016. The wireless capability was one of the main plus points for going that way but sadly hasn't worked out. 
As noted in one of the my posts above....I have tested the AP CP4 extensively with Howard's suggestions and it didn't cure the problem. Oh well........


Re: APPM error message

Bill Long
 

Ray wrote the software, if he says it wont work with DLSR RAW file format, its a safe bet that he's right.



From: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io> on behalf of Peter Bresler via Groups.Io <PABresler@...>
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:42 AM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io <main@ap-gto.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] APPM error message
 
The dark frame issue is a possibility...I will try unchecking.


Re: APPM error message

Konstantin von Poschinger
 

Hi Peter,

have you tried take an image with your setup and then to solve it in the Pinpoint setup in APPM?

Konstantin

Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.11.2019 um 18:42 schrieb Peter Bresler via Groups.Io <PABresler@...>:

The dark frame issue is a possibility...I will try unchecking.


Re: APPM error message

Peter Bresler
 

The dark frame issue is a possibility...I will try unchecking.


Re: APC exit stops tracking

Ray Gralak
 

When I exit APCC the mount tracking stops. How can that be prevented?
It's not recommended because it's a safety feature, but you can do that by disabling Safety Park.

BTW, the mount does not stop tracking immediately, but will stop within the Safety Park time interval, which defaults to 1 minute. You can set it for a longer duration if needed.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


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From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of drgert1 via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 12:11 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: [ap-gto] APC exit stops tracking

Hi All,

When I exit APCC the mount tracking stops. How can that be prevented?

Thanks,
Gert


APC exit stops tracking

drgert1
 

Hi All,

When I exit APCC the mount tracking stops. How can that be prevented?

Thanks,
Gert