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Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Steve,
 
    Out  of curiosity - how long did it take between your filling out the TV claim form, until TeamViewer staff got around to re-instating you?
 
    Also, did you ever figure out how their AI program made its mistake in your use?
 
    I strongly suspect that in my case, it confused my Win-10 being logged into - with my permission - by Microsoft tech support investigating a problem I had reported. Four different members of their team used their commercial LogMeIn program for this, about 6 or 8 times over the course of two months, so maybe the TV AI app can’t distinguish between “incoming and outgoing initiations”  of such use, even by other competing programs. It just knows that “some business entity” was used in my PC. Perhaps that is why the Chat Line clerk asked me if I had ever used TeamViewer from an internet cafe, or even while visiting some business office, If so, then the AI is far too sensitive and doesn’t discriminate someone using TV in the field, while perhaps just waiting in a lobby  for an appointment.
In my case, neither was true – but Microsoft was permitted to control my PC, without restrictions.
 
    I also notice that perhaps in recent TV version updates, TeamViewer “Extras” option check marked setting to have TV drop back into the Win Task Bar when idle or closed down, “cannot be unchecked”, in the Free version. That setting is active and grayed out. This must be how their AI is sniffing on our PC activity, even when we are NOT logged in using TeamViewer. Very sneaky.
The paid versions wouldn’t need that option to always be on, and can be unchecked by such commercial users, since TeamViewer doesn’t care then.
 
    The other possibility is that (some) programs like LogMeIn (etc.) which compete with TV, may find TV on a customer’s PC, and “purposely leave” tell-tail trash behind,  of their “commercial login”,  for TV to discover and subsequently ban the Free user – thus rewarding themselves with a potential new customer for their own program app.
 
Joe
 

From: sreilly24590@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:27 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior
So as expected I received an email from TV this morning :

Thank you very much for sending your self-declaration of personal use to us.
 
We have successfully reset the TeamViewer ID you submitted via the form provided earlier, and we acknowledge that you are using TeamViewer for personal use only.
 
With your signed declaration, we took additional steps to make sure your TeamViewer ID remains reset.”

And it goes on to say that it can be revoked if they detect commercial usage….

Steve


Re: When will Mach2 available to order?

Dale Ghent
 

There are A-P mounts in the field that are approaching 25 years of use without ever seeing such components needing replacement. If you take care of your mount, it will take care of you and you will not have a reason to be worried about such things.

/dale

On Aug 15, 2019, at 2:06 AM, Suresh Mohan Neelmegh drsureshmohan@gmail.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



Marj ,
Would that mean you would run out of spares for mach 1 ? Eg gearbox or worm ?
Suresh

Sent from my iPhone

On 15-Aug-2019, at 9:15 AM, Marj marj@astro-physics.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hello,

We are well into production and will be notifying people very soon. I’ll post up to this list when we start sending out the notification emails. We’ll have more info at that time.



The Mach1 will be discontinued.



Clear Skies,



Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com



From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 1:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] When will Mach2 available to order?





Dear AP.

Can you let us know when will Mach2 available to order or sending notification to people who signed up your notification list? And will Mach1 still available for sale or it will discontinued?

Thank you.




Re: When will Mach2 available to order?

Suresh Mohan
 

Marj ,
    Would that mean you would run out of spares for mach 1 ? Eg gearbox or worm ?
Suresh


On 15-Aug-2019, at 9:15 AM, Marj marj@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hello,

We are well into production and will be notifying people very soon. I’ll post up to this list when we start sending out the notification emails. We’ll have more info at that time.

 

The Mach1 will be discontinued.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 1:11 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] When will Mach2 available to order?

 

 

Dear AP.

Can you let us know when will Mach2 available to order or sending notification to people who signed up your notification list? And will Mach1 still available for sale or it will discontinued?

Thank you.


Re: AP Jog Utility & TheSky 6

 

Please go to our website, click on Software Updates and select GTOCP4. You will find a link to revisions on that page.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:03 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: AP Jog Utility & TheSky 6

 

 

Ray, sorry, after further investigation I determined it was user error ;-) What else is new?

 

However, I decided to check the CP4 firmware upgrade.

 

The process is convoluted and scary. We all know what happens if something goes wrong in the middle of a firmware upgrade. I have been searching for documentation on the revisions or what the upgrade changes are. If it doesn't look worth it, I don't want to wade into that 12 page process of upgrading.

 

Is there a revision history somewhere?

 


Re: When will Mach2 available to order?

 

Hello,

We are well into production and will be notifying people very soon. I’ll post up to this list when we start sending out the notification emails. We’ll have more info at that time.

 

The Mach1 will be discontinued.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 1:11 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] When will Mach2 available to order?

 

 

Dear AP.

Can you let us know when will Mach2 available to order or sending notification to people who signed up your notification list? And will Mach1 still available for sale or it will discontinued?

Thank you.


When will Mach2 available to order?

popkrab
 

Dear AP.

Can you let us know when will Mach2 available to order or sending notification to people who signed up your notification list? And will Mach1 still available for sale or it will discontinued?

Thank you.


Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior

Steve Reilly
 

So as expected I received an email from TV this morning :

 

Thank you very much for sending your self-declaration of personal use to us.
 
We have successfully reset the TeamViewer ID you submitted via the form provided earlier, and we acknowledge that you are using TeamViewer for personal use only.
 
With your signed declaration, we took additional steps to make sure your TeamViewer ID remains reset.”

 

 

And it goes on to say that it can be revoked if they detect commercial usage….

 

Steve

 

From: ap-gto@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 11:58 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior

 

 

I've used TightVNC for a decade plus with no sniffing/clouds/harassment.

Michael Fulbright

On 8/13/19 11:40 AM, george.labelle@... [ap-gto] wrote:

 

The problem with RealVNC (free version) is that it is "Cloud" based only. I'd rather have a direct connect over local lan, mainly because I'm in a rural area (at 4,100 ft ;-) and ISP is over uW with data metering.

 

While I agree $100 for Win10Pro doesn't seem like much, there's still the danger and hassle of having to upgrade the whole OS. 

 

And the question wasn't answered - do you need Pro on both host and controller?

 


Re: RAPAS calibration questions

Roland Christen
 

let's see if I can help with some of your questions:

To align the reticle in the vertical direction, there is no need whatsoever to level the mount. Place Polaris on the center of the reticle, then move the altitude axis up or down so that the star moves up and down on the reticle line. You will see right away if the star stays on the reticle line or not. If not, then loosen the nut holding the eyepiece and turn it slightly until the star traces exactly on the reticle line as you run the altitude axis up and down. Once you have accomplished that, simply tighten the setscrew and you have a calibrated reticle.

Parallax will be reduced or eliminated when Polaris and the reticle are both at the same focus point. First thing is to exactly focus the reticle by turning the eyepiece focusing collar, ignoring the star for the moment. Once that is accomplished, set the Rapas into the mount and look to see if Polaris is also sharp. If not, then do not attempt to focus it via the eyepiece, rather do it by loosening the front scope tube and turning it in or out until Polaris is also sharp on the reticle. It's a bit of trial and error, but once you have that fixed the parallax should be completely gone.

Depending on how fussy you want to be with polar alignment, you may want to do a drift alignment once with your mount and use that to set your Rapas to a good alignment for future use. For portable setups I normally don't fuss that much and I don't do precise polar alignment since I guide anyway. If you are anywhere close to the pole guiding gets rid of the last little bit of drift and you should be able to do imaging at high precision. For a permanent setup I take lots of time, usually an entire evening to precisely polar align.

Rolando



----Original Message-----
From: Derek kirthgersenwall@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sun, Aug 11, 2019 6:07 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] RAPAS calibration questions



Dear RAPAS users,

I purchased a RAPAS along with a Mach1 from the final run last year. 

Whilst PA is good enough for visual GoTos, placing the target within a 2.14 degree FOV:
either my refractor's orthogonality is off, or
I need to calibrate the RAPAS, since I can't seem to achieve more precise placement.

My questions:
1. I was looking at realigning the RAPAS' reticle's north south orientation before attempting to calibrate RAPAS with a polemaster, PEMpro or similar.
(Calibration may well just confirm that RAPAS is aligned and the problem is elsewhere).

The line of travel of polaris within RAPAS along the altitude axis is definitely a bit askew relative to the reticle. 

I've levelled the mount to the best of my ability using the bubble level on the Mach1, but I imagine just eyeballing it isn't sufficient to get it perfectly level east-west.
Perhaps I'm confused, but it's not clear how I can disambiguate between lack of perfect east-west levelling of the mount vs. misalignment of the RAPAS reticle.
As the RAPAS manual states, "be sure that your mount is level east-west". 
Should I purchase a more precise, long bubble level to be certain before rotating the reticle? Any recommendations if so?

Also, over on ThatWebSite, some posters claim that the illuminator arm can torque the reticle out of position, even if the single reticle attachment screw is snug.
If this is possible, are there any simple precautions I can take to avoid that?

2. Parallax
I've tried to follow the directions to ensure that the focal plane of the stars coincides with the focal plane of the reticle image, but I still see Polaris shift relative to the reticle as my viewing angle changes.
For folks who have done this, do you use a Bahtinov mask, possibly with a jig, to ensure that Polaris is precisely focussed? I have a couple of large masks, I can try those with the RAPAS I suppose.

3. I do have a Polemaster, but I think one of the search hits on ap-gto suggested that attaching one to the Mach1 (I hear ADM has a suitable adapter) is not recommended.
I purchased the Mach1+RAPAS for "adventure astronomy", i.e. travelling to dark sites without a computer, so I don't want to use the polemaster, sharpcap or similar on a regular basis, beyond RAPAS calibration. Is drift alignment the definitive method if I do need to calibrate the RAPAS?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions/corrections,
Derek
P.S.:The Mach1 is a joy, an exemplar should probably be installed in a museum of industrial design!




Re: 16 bit Fits image of M13 uploaded (Re: New file uploaded to ap-gto)

Roland Christen
 

Switching filters may require re-focusing also.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: mike.hambrick@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sat, Aug 10, 2019 8:35 am
Subject: Re: 16 bit Fits image of M13 uploaded (Re: [ap-gto] New file uploaded to ap-gto)



Thanks for posting the image Roland.

I still have to improve my focusing technique. I am getting better but I am not quite there yet. You mentioned checking the focus as the scope cools down, do you also check or have to adjust the focus when you switch filters ?


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "chris1011@... [ap-gto]"
To:        ap-gto@...
Date:        08/09/2019 12:14 PM
Subject:        16 bit Fits image of M13 uploaded (Re: [ap-gto] New file uploaded to ap-gto)
Sent by:        ap-gto@...




 
I uploaded a raw 16 bit Fits image to the files section of one of the M13 exposures. I had to crop it to about 1/2 the field because Yahoo does not allow more than 10mb images to be loaded. Full size Fits is 16mb. Image was taken with the 180F9 refractor with Quad TCC at F7.2, image scale about 0.89 arc sec per pixel.

I always limit my exposures to prevent the brightest parts of the object from saturating. In this case the brightest parts of M13, the core, is at about 32,000 ADU.

I hope this answers your questions about what the scope should be able to do. You can stretch the image to reveal any of the data you choose.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Fri, Aug 9, 2019 12:06 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] New file uploaded to ap-gto

Hello,

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  Description : M13 120 sec exposure QSI683WSG camera, AP180F9 EDF refractor at F7.2. 0.89 arc sec per pixel. Image is cropped due to download limits.

You can access this file at the URL:
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Re: Remote desktop software weird behaviour

lacour.morten
 

As already stated. Google remote desktop works fine. Have yet to experience a failed connection.

Morten


Re: RAPAS calibration questions

Robert Berta
 

Do you have a camera....if so use PEMPRO which came with your mount. That will get a very accurate polar alignment. After that you adjust the RAPAS to agree. 

If you have orthogonality issues you can check and fix that using the method in the mount owners manual. Since you have a refractor that is easier than  a SCT or similar that might have mirror flop or flexture.

Bottom line....if you are looking for the mount after a good alignment to precisely dead-center every GOTO object it isn't going to do it. Things like refraction, etc. enter into the problem. You can find software that will map the sky by entering many objects and that will help but this takes time and if you move the mount/telescope you have to redo it. 

I can't help you as far as the alignment of the reticle. I don't quite understand your description of what is going on.  You may want to check the RAPAS instructions again.

And most important....are you using the app that tells you where Polaris is located on the RAPAS? It is important to make sure the app is getting a GPS alignment for your location/time. When working correctly the app will show the RA/DEC for your location. If it doesn't show your indicator for Polaris will be wrong. You can see this when you first open the app....usually it will show Polaris in one position, but after it links up with the GPS the Polaris position will change to the correct position. 

In my case I was pleasantly surprised that after a good PEMPRO Polar Alignment on my 1100, it agreed with my RAPAS with no compensation required so that shows the accuracy of machining at Astro Physics.


Re: Remote desktop software weird behaviour

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks Joel,
 
    I will definitely give ANYDESK a trial flight. Appreciate your advice and experience with it.
 
Joe


Re: Remote desktop software weird behaviour

Joseph Beyer <jcbeyer@...>
 

The developments with TeamViewer have been a bit disturbing on every level.  I've used TeamViewer for several years to remote into my mount PC from my Mac in the house.  TV has worked great but I haven't used it lately so suspect I'm on borrowed time before I receive a message regarding suspected commercial use.  I will change the connection to use the IP address from the local computer but given what has already been stated it's not likely to stave off the inevitable. 

Many of the options that have been proposed in this thread are PC specific and won't work for those of us on multiple platforms.  I need to check out the Chrome app and see if it will readily take the place of TV.  It seems to be the most logical choice for cross platforms.  I'd pay a reasonable one time fee for a stable functional program but loathe paying a subscription for anything.

Joe




On Tuesday, August 13, 2019, 10:17:15 AM PDT, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] wrote:


 

Hi Ross,
 
    You are indeed right in what you say, comparing the seemingly minor outlay for something like TeamViewer – but it is a matter of principle. A $100 here, then more $100’s  for some other support items. How many PC software subscriptions are we all, especially seniors on fixed dwindling incomes - willing to pay, for various things, and each one triggers  yet another monthly or annual payment, digging into our credit card or bank. Easy to eventually build up many hundreds of dollars for such “recurring minor” expenses, for which, while essential are not used that often. The various  $100’s for subscriptions won’t break the Bank – THEY rarely do, before they break us.
 
    Meanwhile, an AP mount or an AP scope is a once in a lifetime, much treasured purchase, using hard earned retirement money saved over decades, to be spent only “on fulfilling Dreams of yesterday’s Tomorrows”.
TeamViewer and other such “tools” aren’t as nearly important or even essential, in comparison to owning any AP product.
 
Joe
 
From: Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:57 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Remote desktop software weird behaviour
 


https://www.amazon.com/Headless-Display-Emulator-Headless-1920x1080-generation/dp/B06XT1Z9TF

Honestly, if you own an AP mount then spending 100 bucks on software really cannot break the bank :).

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 7:28 AM, Wayne wayneh9026@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

Ross, what do you mean by dummy video plugs?


On Aug 13, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Windows remote desktop is only good on a LAN. On a LAN it's by far the better product. I use dummy video plugs in my (3) remote computers so that I can use dual screens when imaging. Much easier on my aging eyes to not have to peer at small stuff on a screen.

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 1:39 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
Windows Remote Desktop. Free. Works great. Requires Windows Pro on the target machine.
 

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups..com mailto:ap-gto@... on behalf of marfig1970@... [ap-gto] mailto:ap-gto@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 12:03 AM
To: ap-gto@... mailto:ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Remote desktop software weird behaviour
 
 
I also have the same problem, they seem to be new TV policies (or malfunctioning algorithm).
 
In any case I have been testing RealVNC with good results. I have also heard very good reviews about Google Chrome Remote Desktop. Both for free.
 
 
 
 


Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior

Joe Zeglinski
 

Ross,
 
    I was wondering if the AI is collecting info and counting how many times an outside program is “providing support” to us as a non-commercial user. Then, when the count reaches a threshold of intolerance, your next use of a web browser, gives the TeamViewer local PC AI program to upload its stats to TV head office in Germany.
 
    If you never use the laptop to connect to the internet, then your idea of restricting TV use to the LAN might be fine. It may also require you to change the OPTIONS Setting  “Allow LAN connections” – to ACCEPT EXCLUSIVELY”. Otherwise, the bare “ACCEPT” option, still allows TV head office AI direct connection, even as you are restricting yourself to the LAN (inclusively), for the backyard telescope.
 
    One other thing I just discovered about TeamViewer Banishment.
It is still possible to use TV from a different PC in the house, to reach other ID numbers of family PC’s, since the other in-house TV has a different ID number. However, I found that “the person I was trying to reach” when I got hit, was also “tagged” by the TV AI sniffer, at the same time. That remote PC could login to my other PC and its TV, but I still could not login to the original remote session ID, even from a different PC. So, when the AI locks out the initiating PC, it also affects incoming TV connections on the remote PC – in effect harming two systems at the same time – the banned initiator/helper and the helped person at the other end, trying to be reached.
That (local ?) AI really is nasty.
 
Joe


Re: Remote desktop software weird behaviour

Ross Salinger <rgsalinger@...>
 

What I'm saying is that in the specific use case of this Windows upgrade, it's a one time expense that will last for 5-10 years. I agree that annual subscription fees (I'm retired as well) eat into your income. One time expenses, as you say are quite another thing.

Right now I have exactly zero PC subscriptions in play. I'm happy with the versions that I have and happy with my equipment and I'm standing pat. That's just me.

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 10:14 AM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

Hi Ross,
 
    You are indeed right in what you say, comparing the seemingly minor outlay for something like TeamViewer – but it is a matter of principle. A $100 here, then more $100’s  for some other support items. How many PC software subscriptions are we all, especially seniors on fixed dwindling incomes - willing to pay, for various things, and each one triggers  yet another monthly or annual payment, digging into our credit card or bank. Easy to eventually build up many hundreds of dollars for such “recurring minor” expenses, for which, while essential are not used that often. The various  $100’s for subscriptions won’t break the Bank – THEY rarely do, before they break us.
 
    Meanwhile, an AP mount or an AP scope is a once in a lifetime, much treasured purchase, using hard earned retirement money saved over decades, to be spent only “on fulfilling Dreams of yesterday’s Tomorrows”.
TeamViewer and other such “tools” aren’t as nearly important or even essential, in comparison to owning any AP product.
 
Joe
 
From: Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:57 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Remote desktop software weird behaviour
 


https://www.amazon.com/Headless-Display-Emulator-Headless-1920x1080-generation/dp/B06XT1Z9TF

Honestly, if you own an AP mount then spending 100 bucks on software really cannot break the bank :).

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 7:28 AM, Wayne wayneh9026@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

Ross, what do you mean by dummy video plugs?


On Aug 13, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Windows remote desktop is only good on a LAN. On a LAN it's by far the better product. I use dummy video plugs in my (3) remote computers so that I can use dual screens when imaging. Much easier on my aging eyes to not have to peer at small stuff on a screen.

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 1:39 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
Windows Remote Desktop. Free. Works great. Requires Windows Pro on the target machine.
 

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups..com mailto:ap-gto@... on behalf of marfig1970@... [ap-gto] mailto:ap-gto@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 12:03 AM
To: ap-gto@... mailto:ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Remote desktop software weird behaviour
 
 
I also have the same problem, they seem to be new TV policies (or malfunctioning algorithm).
 
In any case I have been testing RealVNC with good results. I have also heard very good reviews about Google Chrome Remote Desktop. Both for free.
 
 
 
 


Re: Remote desktop software weird behaviour

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Ross,
 
    You are indeed right in what you say, comparing the seemingly minor outlay for something like TeamViewer – but it is a matter of principle. A $100 here, then more $100’s  for some other support items. How many PC software subscriptions are we all, especially seniors on fixed dwindling incomes - willing to pay, for various things, and each one triggers  yet another monthly or annual payment, digging into our credit card or bank. Easy to eventually build up many hundreds of dollars for such “recurring minor” expenses, for which, while essential are not used that often. The various  $100’s for subscriptions won’t break the Bank – THEY rarely do, before they break us.
 
    Meanwhile, an AP mount or an AP scope is a once in a lifetime, much treasured purchase, using hard earned retirement money saved over decades, to be spent only “on fulfilling Dreams of yesterday’s Tomorrows”.
TeamViewer and other such “tools” aren’t as nearly important or even essential, in comparison to owning any AP product.
 
Joe
 

From: Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 10:57 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Remote desktop software weird behaviour
 


https://www.amazon.com/Headless-Display-Emulator-Headless-1920x1080-generation/dp/B06XT1Z9TF

Honestly, if you own an AP mount then spending 100 bucks on software really cannot break the bank :).

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 7:28 AM, Wayne wayneh9026@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

Ross, what do you mean by dummy video plugs?


On Aug 13, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Windows remote desktop is only good on a LAN. On a LAN it's by far the better product. I use dummy video plugs in my (3) remote computers so that I can use dual screens when imaging. Much easier on my aging eyes to not have to peer at small stuff on a screen.

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 1:39 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
Windows Remote Desktop. Free. Works great. Requires Windows Pro on the target machine.
 

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I also have the same problem, they seem to be new TV policies (or malfunctioning algorithm).
 
In any case I have been testing RealVNC with good results. I have also heard very good reviews about Google Chrome Remote Desktop. Both for free.
 
 
 
 


Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior

Michael Fulbright <mike.fulbright@...>
 

I've used TightVNC for a decade plus with no sniffing/clouds/harassment.

Michael Fulbright

On 8/13/19 11:40 AM, george.labelle@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

The problem with RealVNC (free version) is that it is "Cloud" based only. I'd rather have a direct connect over local lan, mainly because I'm in a rural area (at 4,100 ft ;-) and ISP is over uW with data metering.


While I agree $100 for Win10Pro doesn't seem like much, there's still the danger and hassle of having to upgrade the whole OS. 

And the question wasn't answered - do you need Pro on both host and controller?


Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior

Ross Salinger <rgsalinger@...>
 

The "pro" upgrade just unlocks the features on my machine - it's a license upgrade, not a whole new OS. Double check me but I've done this a couple of times and that's my memory of the process.

I've used Teamviewer where there is no internet, just my own tiny router, and it worked just fine so I'm not sure that when used on a LAN that any data is flowing over to TV's servers.

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 8:40 AM, george.labelle@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

The problem with RealVNC (free version) is that it is "Cloud" based only. I'd rather have a direct connect over local lan, mainly because I'm in a rural area (at 4,100 ft ;-) and ISP is over uW with data metering.


While I agree $100 for Win10Pro doesn't seem like much, there's still the danger and hassle of having to upgrade the whole OS. 

And the question wasn't answered - do you need Pro on both host and controller?


Re: Remote desktop software weird behavior

George LaBelle
 

The problem with RealVNC (free version) is that it is "Cloud" based only. I'd rather have a direct connect over local lan, mainly because I'm in a rural area (at 4,100 ft ;-) and ISP is over uW with data metering.

While I agree $100 for Win10Pro doesn't seem like much, there's still the danger and hassle of having to upgrade the whole OS. 

And the question wasn't answered - do you need Pro on both host and controller?


Re: Remote desktop software weird behaviour

Ross Salinger <rgsalinger@...>
 

I don't know what an "eagle" is but I have only tested it with TV . With Windows RD you don't need it. I use it on two systems right now. I keep my planetarium on one screen with the guide graph at the bottom and the rest of the "stuff" on the other screen. Oddly I cannot get it to work on a "shuttle" PC that I use with the AP1600 that I run for a bunch of people. Can't figure out why.

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 8:21 AM, Wayne wayneh9026@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

Thanks! I didn’t know such things existed. My Eagle has 2 HDMI ports, I’m thinking this will let me mirror the 2 screens on the Eagle to the 2 screens on my inside PC?


On Aug 13, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

https://www.amazon.com/Headless-Display-Emulator-Headless-1920x1080-generation/dp/B06XT1Z9TF

Honestly, if you own an AP mount then spending 100 bucks on software really cannot break the bank :).

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 7:28 AM, Wayne wayneh9026@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

Ross, what do you mean by dummy video plugs?


On Aug 13, 2019, at 7:01 AM, Ross Salinger rgsalinger@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Windows remote desktop is only good on a LAN. On a LAN it's by far the better product. I use dummy video plugs in my (3) remote computers so that I can use dual screens when imaging. Much easier on my aging eyes to not have to peer at small stuff on a screen.

Rgrds-Ross

On 8/13/2019 1:39 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
Windows Remote Desktop. Free. Works great. Requires Windows Pro on the target machine. 


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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Remote desktop software weird behaviour
 
 
I also have the same problem, they seem to be new TV policies (or malfunctioning algorithm).

In any case I have been testing RealVNC with good results. I have also heard very good reviews about Google Chrome Remote Desktop. Both for free.