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Re: OT: Has my guide camera died?

Roland Christen
 


In all my years of guiding with MaxIm, I have never witnessed an
instance where the guide star subframe does not contain the selected
star. To me, that points to something in the camera related to the
SUBFRAME not working right.
Yes, that's happened to me. I finally closed down Maxim and restarted it and the problem disappeared. I don't think it's the camera, it happened on my Lodestar guider, and that camera has always worked properly.

Roland


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dodd mike@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Fri, May 31, 2019 12:37 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] OT: Has my guide camera died?

Suddenly I'm having autoguiding problems with my AP1200 and MaxIm DL
6.19, and I'm wondering if my ST-402 guide camera has gone south.

I asked about this in the MaxIm forum, but I will appreciate any
thoughts or opinions from the experts here as well.

I use a separate 60mm f/5 guide scope with an SBIG ST-402 camera.
Differential flexure is not an issue. This setup has guided the mount
well since 2007, including in my new observatory until a couple of
weeks ago.

The ST-4 autoguider cable is nearly new, and I cleaned with naptha the
contacts on both RJ plugs and the contacts in the mating female sockets
on the camera and the AP1200.

The AP1200 is permanently installed on a 12" concrete pier,
well-aligned. Everything worked fine over the fall and spring.

The problem is that sutoguider corrections aren't applied in one
direction on the X axis, and the MaxIm tracking error graph displays a
gradual drift on that axis. I thought this might be caused by cables
snagging, but after rearranging the pier equipment for no snags, the
drift persists. I can't autoguide at all.

The latest problem is, now the selected guide star does not appear in
MaxIm's guide star subframe after I click Track. That part was working
fine a couple of nights ago, now it isn't.

Specifically: I exposed a full frame with stars visible. I moused-over a
bright star until I found the highest ADU. I clicked that point, and
those coordinates appeared in MaxIm. I clicked Track, and the subframe
appeared. But that subframe contained only noise -- no star!

I repeated this five times with the same result - no guide star in the
subframe. Then I gave up for the night.

Could my ST-402 camera might be malfunctioning? Every autoguider
calibration in MaxIm succeeds, with a perfect L-plot on the full frame,
which tells me the full frame is working and the AP1200 is responding to
all four correction commands. Sound right?

In all my years of guiding with MaxIm, I have never witnessed an
instance where the guide star subframe does not contain the selected
star. To me, that points to something in the camera related to the
SUBFRAME not working right.

What do you think? Time for a new guide camera?

Thanks for all opinions. I'm stumped.

----
Mike

Mike Dodd
Louisa County, Virginia USA


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OT: Has my guide camera died?

Mike Dodd
 

Suddenly I'm having autoguiding problems with my AP1200 and MaxIm DL 6.19, and I'm wondering if my ST-402 guide camera has gone south.

I asked about this in the MaxIm forum, but I will appreciate any thoughts or opinions from the experts here as well.

I use a separate 60mm f/5 guide scope with an SBIG ST-402 camera. Differential flexure is not an issue. This setup has guided the mount well since 2007, including in my new observatory until a couple of weeks ago.

The ST-4 autoguider cable is nearly new, and I cleaned with naptha the contacts on both RJ plugs and the contacts in the mating female sockets on the camera and the AP1200.

The AP1200 is permanently installed on a 12" concrete pier, well-aligned. Everything worked fine over the fall and spring.

The problem is that sutoguider corrections aren't applied in one direction on the X axis, and the MaxIm tracking error graph displays a gradual drift on that axis. I thought this might be caused by cables snagging, but after rearranging the pier equipment for no snags, the drift persists. I can't autoguide at all.

The latest problem is, now the selected guide star does not appear in MaxIm's guide star subframe after I click Track. That part was working fine a couple of nights ago, now it isn't.

Specifically: I exposed a full frame with stars visible. I moused-over a bright star until I found the highest ADU. I clicked that point, and those coordinates appeared in MaxIm. I clicked Track, and the subframe appeared. But that subframe contained only noise -- no star!

I repeated this five times with the same result - no guide star in the subframe. Then I gave up for the night.

Could my ST-402 camera might be malfunctioning? Every autoguider calibration in MaxIm succeeds, with a perfect L-plot on the full frame, which tells me the full frame is working and the AP1200 is responding to all four correction commands. Sound right?

In all my years of guiding with MaxIm, I have never witnessed an instance where the guide star subframe does not contain the selected star. To me, that points to something in the camera related to the SUBFRAME not working right.

What do you think? Time for a new guide camera?

Thanks for all opinions. I'm stumped.

----
Mike

Mike Dodd
Louisa County, Virginia USA
http://astronomy.mdodd.com


Re: 1600 worm cycle

mogollonobs
 

Hello Mike,

I believe the cycle is 6.4 minutes.

Keith


Re: Quick update on testing the Mach2 imaging and the Stowaway visual

Dean Jacobsen
 


---In ap-gto@..., <chris1011@...> wrote :

Rolando wrote:

I can't wait to get some of these mounts out in the hands of you amateurs. Whether beginner or expert, you will find this mount to be the cat's.

@Rolando,

Well, I have been planning on getting one for the observatory to replace my 2009 AP900 [even though the 900 works perfectly].  So, ... hurry up!  ;-)

Dean Jacobsen


1600 worm cycle

Mike Shade
 

What is the worm cycle of a 1600 mount?...was is 5 minutes...?

 

Thanks...

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 


Quick update on testing the Mach2 imaging and the Stowaway visual

Roland Christen
 

Hi Astronuts,

After an entire month of very bad weather here in the Midwest, we finally had a break in the clouds. The month of May had a record rain and on all but 2 days there was rain. Nevertheless, I had 2 chances to observe with the Stowaway and one chance tonight to do some imaging.

The more I use the Mach2 the more I'm a believer! This is an awesome mount. I have my 130GTX with QSI camera and Quad TCC. The Stowaway is on top. What I usually do is power up the mount, connect SkyX and slew to a known star. Couple days ago i went to Izar which is a 2.8 arc sec double. The sun was not quite set, but i could see the star in my 4.8mm Nagler as a lovely perfect little pearl with faint companion. A really beautiful sight. The Mach2 is so accurate that the star appears in the Nagler eyepiece every time I send the mount there. It doesn't matter if i start from a park or any random position, the star always appears in the same place. I can loosen the clutches, swing the mount around to any place, do a bit of balancing, tighten the clutches and slew back to the object and have it right back exactly where it was before.

In the Stowaway in late twilight bright stars are perfectly little round orbs with one faint diffraction ring. I can see why people love their small refractors, stars look like they're supposed to, even if the seeing is not perfect.

Once twilight ended, I sent the scope to M101 to do some imaging while testing PHD guiding. While transparency is poor (heavy moisture in the air) the seeing tonight is reasonably tight, a 4 out of 5. PHD2 is doing a good job keeping the guide star within a radius of 0.5 arc seconds over several hours time period. RMS guide error is running between 0.15 and 0.28 arc sec. The 10 minute exposures of M101 show stars of 1.1 - 1.3 pixels which is just under 2 arc sec. FWHM. Some of the best I've seen this season. The stars are perfectly round. I will post some results tomorrow

I can't wait to get some of these mounts out in the hands of you amateurs. Whether beginner or expert, you will find this mount to be the cat's.

Rolando  
(gotta go close up the observatory, clouds are moving in).


Re: APCC RA not synchronized with SGP RA

carlos49gib@...
 

Morning Ray, thanks for replying will do this weekend when I go to my observatory site in Spain.

ps..Carlos will be fine


Re: ActivX Issue

Ray Gralak
 

APSetup: Error when trying to create 'AstroPhysics V2. Telescope':
Cannot create ActiveX component.
That indicates that the driver is not installed correctly. This is not a problem with the driver, but something with your computer prevented the driver from installing (i.e. updating the registry). There have been a lot of problems over the past year with Windows 10 updates that have caused problems. One of those updates might have caused this issue.

You might try going into Windows Control panel and removing the AP V2 ASCOM driver (and make sure multiple versions are not installed). Then, reboot your computer and reinstall v5.20.09. You shouldn't need to but it wouldn't hurt to right-click the installer and selecting "run as administrator".

BTW, do not install an earlier version of the driver than 5.20.09, as some versions won't work optimally with APCC v1.7.x.x.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 11:11 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ActivX Issue



Ray,

I'm also getting this message:

APSetup: Error when trying to create 'AstroPhysics V2. Telescope': Cannot create ActiveX component.


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@gralak.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, May 26, 2019 10:57 am
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] ActivX Issue



Hi David,

You are not providing much info (e.g., the driver version, Windows version, are you outside the U.S?). So... try
deleting your ASCOM settings file.

You may also try reinstalling the driver if that doesn't fix the problem. If that doesn't help, then you'll need to
provide more information as there can be many reasons for that error.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 10:33 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] ActivX Issue



All, I am getting the following messages when I click the AP V2 driver button in APCC:

Error opening AP V2 ASCOM driver
Cannot create ActiveX component

and then I get:

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

I would appreciate any help!

Thank you

Dave Fabrizio






Re: APCC RA not synchronized with SGP RA

Ray Gralak
 

Carlos/Charles (which is it?),

Can you place a screen shot into the files section showing APCC, the AP V2 ASCOM driver, and SGPro's window showing the 2 hour discrepancy in RA?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 1:50 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC RA not synchronized with SGP RA



SGP RA shows that the mount/telescope has not been synchronized with APCC RA by at lease two hours, I am
currently setting up my new Dome and still to make the polar and stars alignments but already completed the
APCC setup and as well the AP mount setup, I am using a GPS with APCC for location etc, and in SGP i am
using the same parameters as the current setup I have with 10micron 1000 mount obviously the changes in SGP
to fit this new setup.

Its weir given that SGP obtains the telescope data when you connect to the mount, so any suggestion of why this
difference will be appreciated.

I am using all the latest updates on all software, the mount is a AP1100.

Thanks

Carlos


APCC RA not synchronized with SGP RA

carlos49gib@...
 

SGP RA shows that the mount/telescope has not been synchronized with APCC RA by at lease two hours, I am currently setting up my new Dome and still to make the polar and stars alignments but already completed the APCC setup and as well the AP mount setup, I am using a GPS with APCC for location etc, and in SGP i am using the same parameters as the current setup I have with 10micron 1000 mount obviously the changes in SGP to fit this new setup.

Its weir given that SGP obtains the telescope data when you connect to the mount, so any suggestion of why this difference will be appreciated.

I am using all the latest updates on all software, the mount is a AP1100.

Thanks

Carlos


Re: ActivX Issue

David Fabrizio
 

Thank you for that suggestion.


On May 26, 2019, at 11:55 AM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Normally when I get the ActiveX component error, it means that one or more of the programs needs to be run once in Admin mode to register components w Windows. I'd try running all the participating software that way, close them, reopen them normally then see what happens. But also, "what Ray said".


On Sun, 26 May 2019 at 13:33, David Fabrizio DavFab@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

All, I am getting the following messages when I click the AP V2 driver button in APCC:

Error opening AP V2 ASCOM driver
Cannot create ActiveX component

and then I get:

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

I would appreciate any help!

Thank you

Dave Fabrizio



Re: ActivX Issue

Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Dave, did you see my reply re running all programs once in Admin mode? I am sure I see that "Active X" error whenever I install software under Windows and forget to do that the first time. Running in Admin installs components that are not installed when running the normal way.


On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 18:06, David Fabrizio DavFab@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Ray,

 I tried reinstalling the latest AP V2 ASCOM Driver v5.20.09. I reinstalled APCC v1.7.1.0. I'm using Windows 10.


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sun, May 26, 2019 10:57 am
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] ActivX Issue

 
Hi David,

You are not providing much info (e.g., the driver version, Windows version, are you outside the U.S?). So... try deleting your ASCOM settings file.

You may also try reinstalling the driver if that doesn't fix the problem. If that doesn't help, then you'll need to provide more information as there can be many reasons for that error.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 10:33 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: [ap-gto] ActivX Issue
>
>
>
> All, I am getting the following messages when I click the AP V2 driver button in APCC:
>
> Error opening AP V2 ASCOM driver
> Cannot create ActiveX component
>
> and then I get:
>
> Run-time error '13':
> Type mismatch
>
> I would appreciate any help!
>
> Thank you
>
> Dave Fabrizio
>
>
>
>


Re: which adaptor for polemaster: universal mount oradaptor for ap 900

Renan
 

Not quite, this is what Qiu says, it is requiered only if you use atmospheric refraction option which I do no use.

Renan

Re: Polemaster facing East?
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 08:04:17 am »
Yes, this is for the atmospheric refraction calibration. If you use this function you need to fact to east.

Best regards,
Qiu Hongyun
Logged
Qiu Hongyun


From: cytan299@yahoo.com [ap-gto]
Sent: martes, 28 de mayo de 2019 16:05
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: which adaptor for polemaster: universal mount oradaptor for ap 900

 
Hi Tony,
   I just saw your videos. Unfortunately, I think you missed something important: the USB connector on the Polemaster must be oriented to the *left* when you look at it towards the south. Here's the relevant part from the manual (2nd page)

With your mount in the park position (weights down, telescope pointing up), stand to the north of the mount facing south. Insert the quick install plate into the base mount adapter ensuring that the USB socket faces to the left (east). This position aligns the PoleMaster’s sensor correctly and makes azimuth and altitude adjustments during polar alignment ...


cytan


Re: which adaptor for polemaster: universal mount or adaptor for ap 900

Cheng-Yang Tan
 

Hi Tony,
   I just saw your videos. Unfortunately, I think you missed something important: the USB connector on the Polemaster must be oriented to the *left* when you look at it towards the south. Here's the relevant part from the manual (2nd page)

With your mount in the park position (weights down, telescope pointing up), stand to the north of the mount facing south. Insert the quick install plate into the base mount adapter ensuring that the USB socket faces to the left (east). This position aligns the PoleMaster’s sensor correctly and makes azimuth and altitude adjustments during polar alignment ...


cytan


Re: help with restablishing gtocp4 remote connection

Jason Zicherman
 

so I found username and password documentiaon. I hooked up the cp4 via usb to my computer and to a battery and went to the linked website.

I got the following error.

No mount on IP address or COM port, or initialization failed.  Script error in line 4, postion 0.

I am guessing that I did not change the DHCP properly.

I will call ap tomorrow but not sure how they will be able to help me remotely.

Jason


Re: help with restablishing gtocp4 remote connection

Eric Dreher
 

If you can't find your documentation, they have your information at A-P.  Just call them Tuesday if necessary.


Re: ActivX Issue

Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Normally when I get the ActiveX component error, it means that one or more of the programs needs to be run once in Admin mode to register components w Windows. I'd try running all the participating software that way, close them, reopen them normally then see what happens. But also, "what Ray said".


On Sun, 26 May 2019 at 13:33, David Fabrizio DavFab@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

All, I am getting the following messages when I click the AP V2 driver button in APCC:

Error opening AP V2 ASCOM driver
Cannot create ActiveX component

and then I get:

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch

I would appreciate any help!

Thank you

Dave Fabrizio


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