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Re: Meridian Flip Function

raypalmer77
 

Thanks Ray / Mike.

Ray my Losmandy could flip via the hand controller, probably why I am so used to the functionality and ease of having it preinstalled with the mount firmware. I don't think I have ever needed to flip during an imaging session with my AP mount though because it tracks beautifully through the Meridian, however its only during setup that I need to flip the mount, but I guess I need to do that more often than not which brings me here.  

I note that on my GTOCP3 box there are two RS232 plugs at the bottom left. Is it advisable to use the spare one for APCC and keep the TheSkyX in the other one which is already installed? Or do I need to run the The SkyX and Maxdome II through APCC? 

Thanks

Ray 


Re: Meridian Flip Friendly Feedback

raypalmer77
 

Cheers Ray, I couldn't see my new post and thought the thread may have expired (or something to that effect). 

Ray


Re: Meridian Flip Friendly Feedback

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Ray,

I put the below message in my previous post regarding meridian flip
functionality but it doesn't seem to work properly. I think the thread
is now closed.
I don't think there is a concept of closing a thread under Yahoo Groups. Yahoo Groups sometimes delays messages for long periods of time for no apparent reason.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

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To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
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Hi Group -




I put the below message in my previous post regarding meridian flip functionality but it doesn't seem to work
properly. I think the thread is now closed. Basically the below message was in response to how to get a meridian
flip function either via the hand controller or through software and not by performing a work around by changing the
settings to trick the mount.



Hi Group,



Thanks for all these answers. Mike Dodd, I already have the SkyX so I checked your comment but I'm told on the
Bisque forums that the meridian flip function was only for Paramounts (unless I am missing something). Can I
check if you have this feature on your AP mount in the SkyX please?



Also for those in the thread. The meridian flips I do are not for unattended imaging or observing meridian flips. The
flips I want to perform could be for an annoying tree, or that the observatory slit is not complementing the current
angle of imaging, it could simply be better access or safer for the inside of my observatory like getting the scope
away from the door, or simply be better for my neck, or to avoid an annoying neighbors light, etc. These are the
types of flips I do. None of those things should require me to figure out where my telescope is pointing, input new
imaginary meridian flip limits and then stand and wait for the mount to hit those imaginary limits, that approach is
totally inefficient.



There are dozens of reasons why an instantaneous meridian flip may be required and none of those reasons are
dangerous to anyone really (because these are flips done when I am standing at my mount).



These types of flips I want to do are non-imaging and non-visual flips, but simply setting up flips, and should not
really incur me needing to change the meridian settings for when the mount decides to flip (I need to keep those
settings exactly where they are).



But a simple command on the hand controller (as per all my other previous mounts) would be super helpful
gentlemen (and ladies of course). The GTO1600 mount is brilliant but I constantly find myself having to simply slew
to the other side of my pier to get a good angle for what I am shooting at (or a myriad of other reasons as outlined
above). The meridian flip feature is a staple of most mounts, if not all mounts out there, with a simple command.



No one wants to change the actual flip points, because that is a completely different reason for flipping and I do not
want those changed, they are perfect. I like the current meridian flip settings where they are, and don't feel having
to fiddle with those trying to trick a great mount into flipping is a professional approach. Meridian flips are an
incredibly important and very common feature on other mounts.



I think in my previous thread regarding meridian flips, it is automatically inferred by some of the responders that
meridian flips are only for imaging or visual, but as shown above, there are dozens of other reasons why someone
would want to flip instantaneously when they are not imaging or doing any visual (for me, during setups is when I
want to flip).



I currently shoot through Maxim DL and have the SkyX which slews my scope around and controls my dome. I
also use PhD guiding and CCD inspector during imaging with network software so I can monitor my dome from
inside my house whilst I image (5 programs that run whilst I am imaging). However I really don't want to have
another program running on my PC that really doesn't need to be there (its not money, I just like to keep things
streamlined, and a whole new program that may or may not mess with my current setup for a single meridian flip
feature that I may use once at the beginning of the night during setup seems cumbersome). Does this mean if I get
APCC for its meridian flip feature that I cannot use the SkyX to control the mount and dome? Or does the SkyX go
through APCC? Can APCC handle closed loop slews from the SkyX, etc? Even if so, it just feels like a very
cumbersome way to flip a mount as opposed to a simple command from the hand controller. Compounded by the
fact that all other mount manufacturers have a simple flip button that can do it. And let's be honest, you guys are
AP, one of the best (from my extensive experience), you really should have this feature installed.



Anyway, that is my friendly feedback. I really hope we can get a "workable" solution, as opposed to a "workaround"
solution for this great mount. It's the only thing missing from your mounts IMHO.



Thanks again for your time and any feedback or solutions (where I don't have to trick the mount into flipping) are
very welcome.



Regards



Ray


Re: Meridian Flip Function

Mike Dodd
 

On 3/5/2019 3:08 AM, raypalmer@thecosmicartgallery.com [ap-gto] wrote:


Hi Group,

Mike Dodd, I already have the SkyX so I
checked your comment but I'm told on the Bisque forums that it was only
for Paramounts (unless I am missing something). Can I check if you have
this feature on your AP mount in the SkyX please?
The SkyX manual states on page 390: "Click the Flip Mount Now button to slew the telescope to the opposite side of the pier and still point to the same object. This can be convenient when a German equatorial mount is pointing to an object near the meridian and the telescope is on the west side of the pier."

I do not see that button on the Telescope tab set up for an AP1200. The manual says nothing about it being available for Paramounts.

So I don't have a clue. Sorry for the misdirection.

--
Mike

Mike Dodd
http://astronomy.mdodd.com
Louisa County, Virginia USA


Re: Meridian Flip Function

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Ray,

Thanks for all these answers. Mike Dodd, I already have the SkyX so I
checked your comment but I'm told on the Bisque forums that it was only
for Paramounts (unless I am missing something). Can I check if you have
this feature on your AP mount in the SkyX please?
APCC works transparently not only with TheSkyX but with any planetarium program or ASCOM client application. There is a dedicated button on APCC which allows you to do a pier flip. Here's a link to the appropriate section of the help file:

https://www.siriusimaging.com/Help/APCC/move_scope_group_box.htm

Compounded by the fact that all other mount manufacturers have a
simple flip button that can do it.
All other mount manufacturers? I don't think that is true. For instance I don't think that the Software Bisque Paramount has that functionality (it requires SkyX). Also, maybe I'm wrong but I also don't think that German equatorials from Celestron, Losmandy, Meade, or Synscan can force a pier flip via a single button on their hand controllers without some prior setup either. Could it be that the pier flipping you are thinking of is being done via a software application, or their ASCOM driver? If so, APCC has the button for on-demand pier flipping that I think you are looking for.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 12:09 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Meridian Flip Function


Hi Group,

Thanks for all these answers. Mike Dodd, I already have the SkyX so I checked your comment but I'm told on the Bisque forums that it was only for Paramounts (unless I am missing something). Can I check if you have this feature on your AP mount in the SkyX please?

Also for those in the thread. The meridian flips I do are not for unattended imaging or observing meridian flips. The flips I want to perform could be for an annoying tree, or that the observatory slit is not complementing the current angle of imaging, it could simply be safer for the inside of my observatory getting the scope away from the door, or simply better for my neck, or to avoid an annoying neighbours light, etc. These are the types of flips I do.

There are dozens of reasons why an instantaneous meridian flip may be required and none of those reasons are dangerous to anyone really (because these are flips do ne when I am standing at my mount).

These types of flips (non imaging and non visual flips, simply setting up flips) should not really incur me needing to change the meridian settings for when the mount decides to flip (I would want to keep those flip settings where they are).

But a simple command on the hand controller (as per all my other previous mounts) would be super helpful gentlemen. The GTO1600 mount is brilliant but I constantly find myself having to simply slew to the other side of my pier to get a good angle for what I am shooting at (or a myriad of other reasons). The meridian flip feature is a staple of most mounts, if not all mounts out there, with a simple command.

No one wants to change the actual flip points, because that is a completely different reason for flipping and I do not want those changed, they are perfect. I like the current meridian flip settings where they are, and don't feel having to fiddle with those trying to trick a great mount into flipping is a professional approach. Meridian flips are an incredibly important and very common feature on other mounts.

I think in this thread it is automatically inferred that meridian flips are only for imaging or visual, but as shown above, there are dozens of other reasons why someone would want to flip instantaneously when they are not imaging or doing any visual (for me, during setup is when I want to flip).

I currently shoot through Maxim DL and have the SkyX which slews my scope around and controls my dome. I also use PhD guiding and CCD inspector during imaging with network software so I can monitor my dome from inside my house whilst I image. However I really don't want to have another program running on my PC that really doesn't need to be there (its not money, I just like to keep things streamlined, and a whole new program that may or may not mess with my current setup for a single feature seems cumbersome). Does this mean if I get APCC for its meridian flip feature that I cannot use the SkyX to control the mount and dome? Or does the SkyX go through APCC? Can APCC handle closed loop slews from the SkyX, etc? Even if so, it just feels like a very cumbersome way to flip a mount as opposed to a simple command from the hand controller. Compounded by the fact that all other mount manufacturers have a simple flip button that can do it. And let's be honest, you guys are AP, one of the best (from my experience), you really should have this feature installed.

Anyway, that is my friendly feedback. I really hope we can get a workable solution, as opposed to a "work around" solution for this great mount. Its the only thing missing from your mounts IMHO.

Thanks again for your time and any feedback or solutions.

Regards

Ray


Re: Meridian Flip Friendly Feedback

Worsel
 

Ray

Your first post did show up in the other thread.  You may need to monitor both now.

Bryan


Re: Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO m

R Edelson
 

Regarding the soft foam deterioration I think humidity is the key factor here. My basement is humid in the summer and I’ve seen such foam deteriorate over a few years down there. On higher ground where it’s air conditioned in the summer I have a trunk with soft foam that stores my old orange C-8 which I bought in 1978 and the foam looks nearly new.

PS the coating on that scopes corrector plate deteriorated after about 30 years but I removed the plate, cleaned it and it’s as good as new.

Richard



Meridian Flip Friendly Feedback

raypalmer77
 

Hi Group -


I put the below message in my previous post regarding meridian flip functionality but it doesn't seem to work properly. I think the thread is now closed. Basically the below message was in response to how to get a meridian flip function either via the hand controller or through software and not by performing a work around by changing the settings to trick the mount. 

 

Hi Group, 

 

Thanks for all these answers. Mike Dodd, I already have the SkyX so I checked your comment but I'm told on the Bisque forums that the meridian flip function was only for Paramounts (unless I am missing something). Can I check if you have this feature on your AP mount in the SkyX please? 

 

Also for those in the thread. The meridian flips I do are not for unattended imaging or observing meridian flips. The flips I want to perform could be for an annoying tree, or that the observatory slit is not complementing the current angle of imaging, it could simply be better access or safer for the inside of my observatory like getting the scope away from the door, or simply be better for my neck, or to avoid an annoying neighbors light, etc. These are the types of flips I do. None of those things should require me to figure out where my telescope is pointing, input new imaginary meridian flip limits and then stand and wait for the mount to hit those imaginary limits, that approach is totally inefficient.

 

There are dozens of reasons why an instantaneous meridian flip may be required and none of those reasons are dangerous to anyone really (because these are flips done when I am standing at my mount). 

 

These types of flips I want to do are non-imaging and non-visual flips, but simply setting up flips, and should not really incur me needing to change the meridian settings for when the mount decides to flip (I need to keep those settings exactly where they are). 

 

But a simple command on the hand controller (as per all my other previous mounts) would be super helpful gentlemen (and ladies of course). The GTO1600 mount is brilliant but I constantly find myself having to simply slew to the other side of my pier to get a good angle for what I am shooting at (or a myriad of other reasons as outlined above). The meridian flip feature is a staple of most mounts, if not all mounts out there, with a simple command. 

 

No one wants to change the actual flip points, because that is a completely different reason for flipping and I do not want those changed, they are perfect. I like the current meridian flip settings where they are, and don't feel having to fiddle with those trying to trick a great mount into flipping is a professional approach. Meridian flips are an incredibly important and very common feature on other mounts. 

 

I think in my previous thread regarding meridian flips, it is automatically inferred by some of the responders that meridian flips are only for imaging or visual, but as shown above, there are dozens of other reasons why someone would want to flip instantaneously when they are not imaging or doing any visual (for me, during setups is when I want to flip). 

 

I currently shoot through Maxim DL and have the SkyX which slews my scope around and controls my dome. I also use PhD guiding and CCD inspector during imaging with network software so I can monitor my dome from inside my house whilst I image (5 programs that run whilst I am imaging). However I really don't want to have another program running on my PC that really doesn't need to be there (its not money, I just like to keep things streamlined, and a whole new program that may or may not mess with my current setup for a single meridian flip feature that I may use once at the beginning of the night during setup seems cumbersome). Does this mean if I get APCC for its meridian flip feature that I cannot use the SkyX to control the mount and dome? Or does the SkyX go through APCC? Can APCC handle closed loop slews from the SkyX, etc? Even if so, it just feels like a very cumbersome way to flip a mount as opposed to a simple command from the hand controller. Compounded by the fact that all other mount manufacturers have a simple flip button that can do it. And let's be honest, you guys are AP, one of the best (from my extensive experience), you really should have this feature installed. 

 

Anyway, that is my friendly feedback. I really hope we can get a "workable" solution, as opposed to a "workaround" solution for this great mount. It's the only thing missing from your mounts IMHO. 

 

Thanks again for your time and any feedback or solutions (where I don't have to trick the mount into flipping) are very welcome.  

 

Regards

 

Ray


Re: Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount

Ben Koltenbah
 

michiganastronomy:

I'd appreciate knowing which tool cases you ended up using that allowed you to use the AP packing foam pieces.  I'm considering that solution as well.  Thanks!

Ben



Re: Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount

mike.hambrick@...
 

Speaking of foam I am looking for a source for the rigid foam like A-P uses to pack their mounts in. I think it is ployethylene foam, but I am not sure what specific type it is or where to get it.

Also, speaking of a different kind of foam, I may have told this story before, but it is worth repeating. My 180 EDT went unused for quite a few years. I kept it in the case that came with it, and it was always stored indoors. Several years ago when I finally decided to start using it again I discovered that the soft polyurethane foam that was used to line the storage case had completely deteriorated and would just crumble apart when touched. The worst part was that there was a layer of the deteriorated foam stuck to the surface of the telescope. It was quite an ordeal to remove it. I tried every kind of cleaner I could find to remove the residue with no success. I also discovered something that WD40 would NOT work on. In the end, the only thing that worked to remove the stuck-on film was mosquito spray. I have always heard that the active ingredient in mosquito spray (DEET) will remove permanent marker. Well, it also worked quite well to remove this stuck on residue from my scope. Unfortunately, it had little effect on keeping the mosquitos away once I started using the scope again. After this incident I checked the condition of the foam liners in the other storage cases I had and found several where the foam was in various stages of deterioration. The moral of this story is that if you are storing anything in a case that has a soft polyurethane foam liner, you should closely monitor the condition of the foam when it is more than 7 or 8 years old.


Best Regards

Michael Hambrick
ARLANXEO
TSR Global Manufacturing Support
PO Box 2000
Orange, TX 77631-2000
Phone: +1 (409) 882-2799
email: mike.hambrick@...




From:        "Chris Carlton pselaphid@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...>
To:        ap-gto@...
Date:        2019-03-04 05:19 PM
Subject:        Re: [ap-gto] Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount
Sent by:        ap-gto@...




 

Thanks, but I owe it all to those great quality AP cardboard shipping boxes and inserts. Now we'll see if the foam inserts last as long as my boxes....and the mount!

Chris

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:21 PM Robert Langland rtlangland@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
I don’t care what you say, you have arrived at a pretty good solution.  I really appreciate you sending me the pictures.  I have contacted a cabinet maker and he is going to put me touch with some folks that I’m going to see about arriving at a similar solution.


Again, Thanks for sharing.

Bob Langland

On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:04 PM, pselaphid@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

I was monitoring the case discussion while working on this. Like others, after taking delivery of my 1100, I speculated about building boxes the same dimensions as the shipping boxes so that the original packing inserts could me used. I also considered how to deal with the 65 lbs of weights so that I wasn't lugging them around individually or in make shift tool boxes that do not render them any less heavy.. I posted a few pics in an album on my Flickr site linked below for your inspection. 


If I had to do it again, I would make the mount boxes 1/2 inch wider and longer than the cardboard versions so that the fit is a little less snug. The foam inserts fit perfectly in my case without the need for adhesive. I suspect the light duty carry-on luggage dolly I attached to the counterweight caddy will require an upgrade due to the flimsy wheels, but it all works fine for now, probably with a total investment of around $75. Mind you, I'm not much of a carpenter and much less of a cabinet maker, so keep fit and finish critiques private and lift with your knees.

Chris

https://www.flickr.com/photos/12666884@N00/albums/72157707142918925





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Re: Meridian Flip Function

raypalmer77
 

Just testing if this thread is still open. Please ignore. 


Re: Meridian Flip Function

raypalmer77
 

Hi Group, 

Thanks for all these answers. Mike Dodd, I already have the SkyX so I checked your comment but I'm told on the Bisque forums that it was only for Paramounts (unless I am missing something). Can I check if you have this feature on your AP mount in the SkyX please? 

Also for those in the thread. The meridian flips I do are not for unattended imaging or observing meridian flips. The flips I want to perform could be for an annoying tree, or that the observatory slit is not complementing the current angle of imaging, it could simply be safer for the inside of my observatory getting the scope away from the door, or simply better for my neck, or to avoid an annoying neighbours light, etc. These are the types of flips I do. 

There are dozens of reasons why an instantaneous meridian flip may be required and none of those reasons are dangerous to anyone really (because these are flips done when I am standing at my mount). 

These types of flips (non imaging and non visual flips, simply setting up flips) should not really incur me needing to change the meridian settings for when the mount decides to flip (I would want to keep those flip settings where they are). 

But a simple command on the hand controller (as per all my other previous mounts) would be super helpful gentlemen. The GTO1600 mount is brilliant but I constantly find myself having to simply slew to the other side of my pier to get a good angle for what I am shooting at (or a myriad of other reasons). The meridian flip feature is a staple of most mounts, if not all mounts out there, with a simple command. 

No one wants to change the actual flip points, because that is a completely different reason for flipping and I do not want those changed, they are perfect. I like the current meridian flip settings where they are, and don't feel having to fiddle with those trying to trick a great mount into flipping is a professional approach. Meridian flips are an incredibly important and very common feature on other mounts. 

I think in this thread it is automatically inferred that meridian flips are only for imaging or visual, but as shown above, there are dozens of other reasons why someone would want to flip instantaneously when they are not imaging or doing any visual (for me, during setup is when I want to flip). 

I currently shoot through Maxim DL and have the SkyX which slews my scope around and controls my dome. I also use PhD guiding and CCD inspector during imaging with network software so I can monitor my dome from inside my house whilst I image. However I really don't want to have another program running on my PC that really doesn't need to be there (its not money, I just like to keep things streamlined, and a whole new program that may or may not mess with my current setup for a single feature seems cumbersome). Does this mean if I get APCC for its meridian flip feature that I cannot use the SkyX to control the mount and dome? Or does the SkyX go through APCC? Can APCC handle closed loop slews from the SkyX, etc? Even if so, it just feels like a very cumbersome way to flip a mount as opposed to a simple command from the hand controller. Compounded by the fact that all other mount manufacturers have a simple flip button that can do it. And let's be honest, you guys are AP, one of the best (from my experience), you really should have this feature installed. 

Anyway, that is my friendly feedback. I really hope we can get a workable solution, as opposed to a "work around" solution for this great mount. Its the only thing missing from your mounts IMHO. 

Thanks again for your time and any feedback or solutions. 

Regards

Ray



Re: Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount

Chris Carlton
 

Thanks, but I owe it all to those great quality AP cardboard shipping boxes and inserts. Now we'll see if the foam inserts last as long as my boxes....and the mount!

Chris

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:21 PM Robert Langland rtlangland@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I don’t care what you say, you have arrived at a pretty good solution.  I really appreciate you sending me the pictures.  I have contacted a cabinet maker and he is going to put me touch with some folks that I’m going to see about arriving at a similar solution.


Again, Thanks for sharing.

Bob Langland

On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:04 PM, pselaphid@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

I was monitoring the case discussion while working on this. Like others, after taking delivery of my 1100, I speculated about building boxes the same dimensions as the shipping boxes so that the original packing inserts could me used. I also considered how to deal with the 65 lbs of weights so that I wasn't lugging them around individually or in make shift tool boxes that do not render them any less heavy. I posted a few pics in an album on my Flickr site linked below for your inspection. 


If I had to do it again, I would make the mount boxes 1/2 inch wider and longer than the cardboard versions so that the fit is a little less snug. The foam inserts fit perfectly in my case without the need for adhesive. I suspect the light duty carry-on luggage dolly I attached to the counterweight caddy will require an upgrade due to the flimsy wheels, but it all works fine for now, probably with a total investment of around $75. Mind you, I'm not much of a carpenter and much less of a cabinet maker, so keep fit and finish critiques private and lift with your knees.

Chris







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Director, Carlton Astronomy Campus

Professor of Entomology, Emeritus

Department of Entomology, Louisiana State University

Baton Rouge, LA USA 70808

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Re: Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount

Roland Christen
 

Nice looking woodwork!

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: pselaphid@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Mar 4, 2019 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount



I was monitoring the case discussion while working on this. Like others, after taking delivery of my 1100, I speculated about building boxes the same dimensions as the shipping boxes so that the original packing inserts could me used. I also considered how to deal with the 65 lbs of weights so that I wasn't lugging them around individually or in make shift tool boxes that do not render them any less heavy. I posted a few pics in an album on my Flickr site linked below for your inspection. 

If I had to do it again, I would make the mount boxes 1/2 inch wider and longer than the cardboard versions so that the fit is a little less snug. The foam inserts fit perfectly in my case without the need for adhesive. I suspect the light duty carry-on luggage dolly I attached to the counterweight caddy will require an upgrade due to the flimsy wheels, but it all works fine for now, probably with a total investment of around $75. Mind you, I'm not much of a carpenter and much less of a cabinet maker, so keep fit and finish critiques private and lift with your knees.

Chris






Re: Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount

rtlangland
 

I don’t care what you say, you have arrived at a pretty good solution.  I really appreciate you sending me the pictures.  I have contacted a cabinet maker and he is going to put me touch with some folks that I’m going to see about arriving at a similar solution.

Again, Thanks for sharing.

Bob Langland

On Mar 4, 2019, at 3:04 PM, pselaphid@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

I was monitoring the case discussion while working on this. Like others, after taking delivery of my 1100, I speculated about building boxes the same dimensions as the shipping boxes so that the original packing inserts could me used. I also considered how to deal with the 65 lbs of weights so that I wasn't lugging them around individually or in make shift tool boxes that do not render them any less heavy. I posted a few pics in an album on my Flickr site linked below for your inspection. 


If I had to do it again, I would make the mount boxes 1/2 inch wider and longer than the cardboard versions so that the fit is a little less snug. The foam inserts fit perfectly in my case without the need for adhesive. I suspect the light duty carry-on luggage dolly I attached to the counterweight caddy will require an upgrade due to the flimsy wheels, but it all works fine for now, probably with a total investment of around $75. Mind you, I'm not much of a carpenter and much less of a cabinet maker, so keep fit and finish critiques private and lift with your knees.

Chris






Re: Carrying cases for the two parts of the Astro Physics 1100 GTO mount

Chris Carlton
 

I was monitoring the case discussion while working on this. Like others, after taking delivery of my 1100, I speculated about building boxes the same dimensions as the shipping boxes so that the original packing inserts could me used. I also considered how to deal with the 65 lbs of weights so that I wasn't lugging them around individually or in make shift tool boxes that do not render them any less heavy. I posted a few pics in an album on my Flickr site linked below for your inspection. 

If I had to do it again, I would make the mount boxes 1/2 inch wider and longer than the cardboard versions so that the fit is a little less snug. The foam inserts fit perfectly in my case without the need for adhesive. I suspect the light duty carry-on luggage dolly I attached to the counterweight caddy will require an upgrade due to the flimsy wheels, but it all works fine for now, probably with a total investment of around $75. Mind you, I'm not much of a carpenter and much less of a cabinet maker, so keep fit and finish critiques private and lift with your knees.

Chris




Re: The Astroimaging channel this evening (Sunday, March 3)

Ben Koltenbah
 

Thanks for the head's up.  I did try looking for it later last night and saw a note about the technical issues.  Maybe I can view it live then on the 14th.

Ben



Re: The Astroimaging channel this evening (Sunday, March 3)

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Ben,

I'm sorry that I'll have to miss it live, but I'll look for its recording later.
Don't try looking for a recording just yet. Last night there were technical problems getting the Astro Imaging Channel on the air so my talk has been rescheduled for April 14th.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver

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Ray:


I'm sorry that I'll have to miss it live, but I'll look for its recording later.

Ben




Re: The Astroimaging channel this evening (Sunday, March 3)

Ben Koltenbah
 

Ray:

I'm sorry that I'll have to miss it live, but I'll look for its recording later.

Ben



Re: The Astroimaging channel this evening (Sunday, March 3)

Ray Gralak
 

Hi George,

Should be a very good discussion. On that note, Is there a primer or walk thru on using PemPro?
The help file has a specific section for Astro-Physics mounts with step by step instructions. The same info is online here:

https://www.siriusimaging.com/Help/PEMProV3/index.html?astrophysicsgtocp3.html

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: https://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver


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Should be a very good discussion. On that note, Is there a primer or walk thru on using PemPro?

George C. Lutch



On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 10:33 AM 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@gralak.com [ap-gto] <ap-
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I'm giving a talk about periodic error, sources of tracking errors and tracking rate correction, PEMPro,
APCC, and maybe other topics on the Astro-Imaging channel tonight at 6:30pm PST. If anyone wants to listen in
and add to the discussion you can join here:

http://www.theastroimagingchannel.com/

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak



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