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Re: order placed for the AP 400 got.

Ron Kramer
 

I bought a Skywatcher NEQ6 pro.  Sold it 6mo later (expected more).
I picked up a used losmandy and 11" SCT  (for 250.00) 
Sold them both for 2500. and figured that was a sign from God to "get a Mach1" so I did!
2500+1000 for a 6mo old skywatcher... eased the pain of the mach1 price tag.  And SO GLAD I DID.




On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:18 AM, doctp12@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I recently decided to spend more time with this great hobby and making the jump from casual observation to a great buying a AP 400 mount.

Very expensive and worth every dollar.

Just wondering if anyone would have considered  another  go to mount, less expensive with similar accuracy.

Anyone who initially had a different brand, then went to the AP 400 because of significant increase in quality and regretted buying the first mount.

I do plan on starting imaging.

I have already placed my order for the Ap 4oo.



Re: Initializing Mach1 without HC

Ron Kramer
 

Nope, I didn't even buy a HC for mine.  Initialize while booting SGP. No hand controller needed. I goto... by clicking the item I want to target in my planetarium program. (worldwide telescope). Yesterday I clicked on the sun.  I don't do visual only imaging... so I did a quick frame and  Whoops there it was...  shot that a while. Then dust came and I was bored. Since I remote from in the house I click on the moon while it was still daylight.  Did a sub - whoops there it is...  did that until nightfall. Then clicked various targets like M81 and imaged those a while.  I was also testing my guiding since I added a 127mm apo to the mount. I had a 80mm.  Now I have side by side 80 and 127mm and 80mm guide scope. Balance was a bit tricky... but I was thrilled that my guiding total RMS average was about 0.35 with  0.31 being the best of the night.  Loving my mach1. 


On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 1:51 PM, cardogab7341@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I have a Mach1 that I use the HC for initialization and other things. Lately, the only thing I've been using the HC for is inititialization, then I start SGP and connect the ASCOM driver and do my imaging, and SGP parks the mount at the end of the night (morning). My question is do I need to use the HC to initialize the mount, or does the ASCOM driver initialize the mount when SGP connects it? Since I'm not using the HC, I would like to just put it up until I actually need it.


Thanks!


Gabe Cardona



Re: Initializing Mach1 without HC

Roland Christen
 

The ASCOM driver will initialize the mount just the same as the keypad does.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: cardogab7341@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Thu, Apr 26, 2018 4:39 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Initializing Mach1 without HC



I have a Mach1 that I use the HC for initialization and other things. Lately, the only thing I've been using the HC for is inititialization, then I start SGP and connect the ASCOM driver and do my imaging, and SGP parks the mount at the end of the night (morning). My question is do I need to use the HC to initialize the mount, or does the ASCOM driver initialize the mount when SGP connects it? Since I'm not using the HC, I would like to just put it up until I actually need it.

Thanks!

Gabe Cardona



Re: Motors Stall after track into pier

Wayne Hixson
 

Appears things are working again. Moving the axes slowly from APCC worked. I then did it again from the HC doing a slew at 600x. There was a grinding noise for a few seconds before I could reverse the motion but now all seems to be well. Ran it most of the night with no problems.

Thanks!

Wayne

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From: chris1011@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:47 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Motors Stall after track into pier

 
Why not call the office and ask for tech help. They can run you thru some simple tests.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: wayneh9026@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 8:46 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Motors Stall after track into pier

Somehow my AP1100 continued to track after I thought it parked. :-(( I loosened it manually but the motors are still in a stall state N-S moves about 15 degrees back and forth and E-W just clicks. I've powered off and on several times. Any ideas??

Wayne


Initializing Mach1 without HC

Gabe Cardona
 

I have a Mach1 that I use the HC for initialization and other things. Lately, the only thing I've been using the HC for is inititialization, then I start SGP and connect the ASCOM driver and do my imaging, and SGP parks the mount at the end of the night (morning). My question is do I need to use the HC to initialize the mount, or does the ASCOM driver initialize the mount when SGP connects it? Since I'm not using the HC, I would like to just put it up until I actually need it.


Thanks!


Gabe Cardona


Re: Motors Stall after track into pier

Roland Christen
 

Why not call the office and ask for tech help. They can run you thru some simple tests.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: wayneh9026@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 8:46 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Motors Stall after track into pier



Somehow my AP1100 continued to track after I thought it parked. :-(( I loosened it manually but the motors are still in a stall state N-S moves about 15 degrees back and forth and E-W just clicks. I've powered off and on several times. Any ideas??

Wayne



Re: APCC Pro: The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Jinyoung,

(I am sending a second time as the first has not come through yet)

The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.
It's quite amazing that no one has run into this before. Thanks for reporting this! I will make sure that is fixed in the next APCC installer.

If you install PEMPro V2 then that DLL will get registered with Windows. You won't need a PEMPro V2 license key and I don't think you will even have to run PEMPro V2, just installing it should do it. But if you still get the error then running PEMPro V2 once should register that DLL.

If you don't have PEMPro V2 handy you can download it from here:

https://www.siriusimaging.com/PEMProV2/PEMProV2.exe

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC Pro: The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.



Hi,




When I click "Start Plate Solve" button on APPM's "Test Solve Images from directory" window, it ends with error
message in subject. I set up SGPro as camera and plate solver. Is there any known solution for this error?




Note 1: My APCC Pro's version is 1.6.0.3 and is fresh installed on new Windows 10 computer.


Note 2: Image Link Test in "Plate Solve Setting" works fine though.

Note 3: I search the dll file on entire disk but it didn't exist.




Thanks,

Jinyoung


Re: APCC Pro: The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Jinyoung,

The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.
It's quite amazing that no one has run into this before. Thanks for reporting this! I will make sure that is fixed in the next APCC installer.

If you install PEMPro V2 then that DLL will get registered with Windows. You won't need a PEMPro V2 license key and I don't think you will even have to run PEMPro V2, just installing it should do it. But if you still get the error then running PEMPro V2 once should register that DLL.

If you don't have PEMPro V2 handy you can download it from here:

https://www.siriusimaging.com/PEMProV2/PEMProV2.exe

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 8:32 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC Pro: The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.



Hi,




When I click "Start Plate Solve" button on APPM's "Test Solve Images from directory" window, it ends with error
message in subject. I set up SGPro as camera and plate solver. Is there any known solution for this error?




Note 1: My APCC Pro's version is 1.6.0.3 and is fresh installed on new Windows 10 computer.


Note 2: Image Link Test in "Plate Solve Setting" works fine though.

Note 3: I search the dll file on entire disk but it didn't exist.




Thanks,

Jinyoung


Fw: CP3 & CP4 - Last command persistence

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks Rolando,
 
    You may be right – the CP4 problem is now permanent, with a solid AMBER LED.
– Hope to hear from Howard soon, after a brief rest from his conferences.
 
    Sure seemed like a “motor related” problem ... at first ... but unlikely BOTH motor encoders would have failed simultaneously.
Interestingly, the DEC motor didn’t move at all, as the RA motor slewed across the sky, starting from a Park-1 position and ending up in exactly the same way pointing North, now on the pier East side – not even the standard Park-4 orientation there, when I finally managed to stop it going even further, under the mount.
 
Things I tried:
    I switched to a different set of Y-cables, which didn’t fix it.
Tried a different 10 amp supply – with nothing else connected on the scope except the CP4 electrical load itself – still no go.
 
    Tried a fully “MANUAL operations”  test - (no PC,  or any serial or guider cable plugged in) -  using first one handpad, then another spare unit – all handpad functions seemed to work on the CP4, “except the slew buttons, or any PARK” commands – Since the CP4 which has no feedback to the handpad,  then maybe it is not even seeing any inputs that affect its own internal operation. The handpad port,  and probably also the CP4 serial port  I was using to drive the mount with the laptop,  are likely both dead, or the firmware has locked up tight.
 
    Finally switched back to using  “old faithful”, the CP3 on that AP-1200 – now the mount works as it should, either one of the handpads slews & Parks – using either one of the  Y-cables.
 
    Then I switched the failed CP4 to my indoors portable field mount, with no scope or even a cwt. bar on it – i.e. “perfectly & lightly balanced” with  different cables, different motors, on the AP-900 – and the CP4 was STILL  dead,  with its shining Amber LED status.
    Can’t think of anything else to swap test, or try differently to nail down this recurring problem.
 
    Ran the new SGP-PRO software through the exact same steps as before, and could not make the software repeat the runaway fault,  using the old CP3. So, something suddenly went squirrely inside the CP4. Maybe it  needs user replaceable  internal fuses rather than just a battery plug general load fuse. Probably wouldn’t have helped since the CP4 mount had been sitting quietly idle in Park-1, for two and a half hours on a cool beautifully clear night, before it suddenly glitched. So, not a matter of overheating the motors with a lot of GOTO’s, and I didn’t even launch a Planetarium program at the time.
 
    The CP4 doesn’t seem quite sustainable, unfortunately, compared to the CP3’s.  Now, THAT was a solid, lower tech product with few things that could wrong too easily.
Quite regrettably,  this isn’t the first time both my CP4’s have had this weird kind of problem, just over the past year.
 
Joe


Re: APCC Pro: The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.

Jinyoung Heo
 

I found "siUtils3.dll" in PemPro v3 directory but still no luck on "siUtils2.dll"


APCC Pro: The module 'siUtils2.dll' failed to load.

Jinyoung Heo
 

Hi,


When I click "Start Plate Solve" button on APPM's "Test Solve Images from directory" window, it ends with error message in subject. I set up SGPro as camera and plate solver. Is there any known solution for this error? 


Note 1: My APCC Pro's version is 1.6.0.3 and is fresh installed on new Windows 10 computer. 

Note 2: Image Link Test in "Plate Solve Setting" works fine though.

Note 3: I search the dll file on entire disk but it didn't exist.


Thanks,

Jinyoung


Motors Stall after track into pier

Wayne Hixson
 

Somehow my AP1100 continued to track after I thought it parked. :-(( I loosened it manually but the motors are still in a stall state N-S moves about 15 degrees back and forth and E-W just clicks. I've powered off and on several times. Any ideas??


Wayne


Re: CP3 & CP4 - Last command persistence

Roland Christen
 

Neither the CP servo nor the handpad or other software sends commands to move after power cycling.

I suspect that you lost connection to the RA motor encoder. That would explain the runaway even after cycling power. Probably a Y cable break or bad connection.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 12:28 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] CP3 & CP4 - Last command persistence



Hi,
    Odd thing which unfortunately, sometimes happens – during a mount “runaway emergency”.
As it heads for the pier, in my panic I have been forced  to pull out the power cord powering the mount and  everything on the scope,  because even the APCC Emergency Stop button only works momentarily – it doesn’t seem to (always) do a full reset.
When I plug back in, with the PC still running during that crucial time, the mount resumes its last motion – perhaps a left over Pier Flip or Park slewing command,  to  “who-knows-where”.
 
    After plugging the mount back in, I have EVEN logged out of the Win-10 account during that brief shutdown,  just in case there is some unknown remnant TSR program still running in the background,  but even on the second and subsequent plugin attempts, the CPx refused to take the hint and simply quit repeating its last uncontrolled slew.
 
    That was a recent case when I closed SGP-PRO, nothing else seemed to be running ... except for an unexpected 200-degree mount slew in RA,  all the way back to the east, heading under the pier. Luckily ... and thank heavens (i.e. Ray) for the APCC  “3D View”,  when all went haywire, where I initially spotted the runaway and dashed to the scope.
 
    I’m still reviewing the APCC logs to explain what had happened during that confusing event, preparing myself to better handle the next such reoccurrence.
 
*** Question:
    If all apps & APCC driver have been TERMINATED, does the CP servo control still somehow “remember the errant command” ...  it received, (possibly stored internally),  from some application using the ASCOM-V2 driver?
If so, what is a safer way to reset and initialize the CPx controller back to the BASIC start-up state, and cease its trying to complete its destined train wreck?
 
    I suspect it is a CP hardware or firmware issue, rather than the APCC app.
Thanks,
Joe
 
 



CP3 & CP4 - Last command persistence

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi,
    Odd thing which unfortunately, sometimes happens – during a mount “runaway emergency”.
As it heads for the pier, in my panic I have been forced  to pull out the power cord powering the mount and  everything on the scope,  because even the APCC Emergency Stop button only works momentarily – it doesn’t seem to (always) do a full reset.
When I plug back in, with the PC still running during that crucial time, the mount resumes its last motion – perhaps a left over Pier Flip or Park slewing command,  to  “who-knows-where”.
 
    After plugging the mount back in, I have EVEN logged out of the Win-10 account during that brief shutdown,  just in case there is some unknown remnant TSR program still running in the background,  but even on the second and subsequent plugin attempts, the CPx refused to take the hint and simply quit repeating its last uncontrolled slew.
 
    That was a recent case when I closed SGP-PRO, nothing else seemed to be running ... except for an unexpected 200-degree mount slew in RA,  all the way back to the east, heading under the pier. Luckily ... and thank heavens (i.e. Ray) for the APCC  “3D View”,  when all went haywire, where I initially spotted the runaway and dashed to the scope.
 
    I’m still reviewing the APCC logs to explain what had happened during that confusing event, preparing myself to better handle the next such reoccurrence.
 
*** Question:
    If all apps & APCC driver have been TERMINATED, does the CP servo control still somehow “remember the errant command” ...  it received, (possibly stored internally),  from some application using the ASCOM-V2 driver?
If so, what is a safer way to reset and initialize the CPx controller back to the BASIC start-up state, and cease its trying to complete its destined train wreck?
 
    I suspect it is a CP hardware or firmware issue, rather than the APCC app.
Thanks,
Joe
 
 


Re: Skyfi control of AP1200

George
 

Linton,

 

At this time SkySafari 6 on the iPhone is able to initialize the mount from a Park 4 position.   It may be expanded in the future.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:17 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Skyfi control of AP1200

 

 

Hi, I was wondering if any user of a 1200 mount with the CP3 control box has used a skyfi unit and sky safari to control the mount. My particular question is can this system be used to start the mount from its parked position without the keypad input for location and 'resume from park'.

Basically is it possible to get basic control without the keypad connected?

 

Many thanks,

 

Linton Guise


Re: Small Jump or Hop in image during tracking on Mach 1 GTO

Roland Christen
 

Mirror flop, cable drag, camera adapter possibly loose. If it's occurring in RA intermittently it is usually cable drag.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: donzantib@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2018 9:05 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Small Jump or Hop in image during tracking on Mach 1 GTO



I've been noticing lately a slight hop or jump in an image when tracking and it happens usually after the 6th to 7th, 30 sec exposure (note: these are unguided, short exposures).  This varies depending on the region of the sky being viewed as some I can go up to 10x30s with no issue.  It never did this in the previous months of my new Mach 1GTO on my C11" SCT.  Balance is good and no noticeable cable hang ups.  Could this possibly be due to my PA no longer being accurate?  If not, other possible reasons?  I would think PE or backlash would not be an issue on a new mount.  I do not use the scope mirror locks so possibly mirror flop can be a contributing factor as well- just guessing.



order placed for the AP 400 got.

doctp12@...
 

I recently decided to spend more time with this great hobby and making the jump from casual observation to a great buying a AP 400 mount.

Very expensive and worth every dollar.

Just wondering if anyone would have considered  another  go to mount, less expensive with similar accuracy.

Anyone who initially had a different brand, then went to the AP 400 because of significant increase in quality and regretted buying the first mount.

I do plan on starting imaging.

I have already placed my order for the Ap 4oo.


Re: Tracking too fast with GTO 1600 Mount

Roland Christen
 

Stars will move fully across my CCD image in approximately 10 or 15 seconds.
You most likely have an autoguider connection sending a bogus command to the autoguider input to the mount. Some autoguider cameras will send a 2x move signal to the mount when they are powered off. Pull the autoguider cable out of the RJ connector and check the speed again.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: joepetrick9@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2018 1:01 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Tracking too fast with GTO 1600 Mount



All of a sudden the tracking on my GTO 1600 Mount is going too fast. It appears that the right ascension speed is too fast.  I could not figure it out so I reset the keypad thinking that would help but it did not. The speed set on the keypad shows on number 8 that it is sidereal so why it would not track at the right speed I do not know. Stars will move fully across my CCD image in approximately 10 or 15 seconds. If I set the number 8 on the keypad to stop then the stars appear to move the opposite direction and off the image in 10 or 15 seconds. I cannot figure this out. Can anyone help me as to if there's another setting for the sidereal rate that I'm missing.

Thanks,
Joe P




Re: Tracking too fast with GTO 1600 Mount

Roland Christen
 


Stars will move fully across my CCD image in approximately 10 or 15 seconds.
You most likely have an autoguider connection sending a bogus command to the autoguider input to the mount. Some autoguider cameras will send a 2x move signal to the mount when they are powered off. Pull the autoguider cable out of the RJ connector and check the speed again.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: joepetrick9@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2018 1:01 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Tracking too fast with GTO 1600 Mount



All of a sudden the tracking on my GTO 1600 Mount is going too fast. It appears that the right ascension speed is too fast.  I could not figure it out so I reset the keypad thinking that would help but it did not. The speed set on the keypad shows on number 8 that it is sidereal so why it would not track at the right speed I do not know. Stars will move fully across my CCD image in approximately 10 or 15 seconds. If I set the number 8 on the keypad to stop then the stars appear to move the opposite direction and off the image in 10 or 15 seconds. I cannot figure this out. Can anyone help me as to if there's another setting for the sidereal rate that I'm missing.

Thanks,
Joe P




Small Jump or Hop in image during tracking on Mach 1 GTO

Bruce Donzanti
 

I've been noticing lately a slight hop or jump in an image when tracking and it happens usually after the 6th to 7th, 30 sec exposure (note: these are unguided, short exposures).  This varies depending on the region of the sky being viewed as some I can go up to 10x30s with no issue.  It never did this in the previous months of my new Mach 1GTO on my C11" SCT.  Balance is good and no noticeable cable hang ups.  Could this possibly be due to my PA no longer being accurate?  If not, other possible reasons?  I would think PE or backlash would not be an issue on a new mount.  I do not use the scope mirror locks so possibly mirror flop can be a contributing factor as well- just guessing.