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Re: Planetarium software recommendation (windows)

Eric Dreher
 

Cartes du Ciel with my Mach1, CP4.  It's never caused me any problems at all with my A-P mount, and three previous brands.  It just works with no fuss.


Planetarium software recommendation (windows)

dang.astro
 

Hi, I was wondering what software AP users are using to control their mount through Windows. I'm using point to point wifi on a Mach1 with CP4 through my laptop.

Suggestions and experiences appreciated

Best,
Dan


Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

topboxman
 

That makes sense.

Thanks,
Peter


---In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, <chris1011@...> wrote :

As long as location is always the same, it's irrelevant for unparking. Only the local time comes into play because that is the only way for the mount to know what the hour angle is.

Rolando

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To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Rolando,

I thought location (as well as clock) was used for the first slew to a known object or star after unparking from one of four park positions. So, I normally set the mount to Park 4, power up the mount, unpark from Park 4, and slew to a star or object. So location data (as well as clock) is irrelevant for this case?

I know that subsequent slews after RCAL, clock and location are irrelevant. But isn't the very first slew after unparking from a known park position is dependent on clock and location?

Peter


---In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com, <chris1011@...> wrote :

It has absolutely no significance. GoTos are not regulated by observer location. Never has been. You can tell it that you're in Bangalore and as long as you tell it that it's 8pm daylight savings (if that's what time it is where you are) and center/r ecal on the first star, the mount servo will happily slew exactly to the next object and the next, etc. It won't care where you told it that you are located. The meridian flips are based on hour angle, same as the horizon limits east and west.


I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out,
Rolando





-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Rolando,
That is one of the first things I checked, but only locations 1 and 2 are set and both have the identical correct settings. Locations 3-9 are all 0000's. So far I have not found anywhere that holds the reported wrong longitude, so its very curious. I will try your suggestion to start with autoconnect NO and specify the correct location to see if that fixes it. I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out, which is not much of an issue, but is there anything else I should be aware off?
Regards,


Geof

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of chris1011@... mailto:chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 18:37
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

You may have set the bogus setting in another location (Location2 perhaps?) When you set your keypad to YES, it used the last location that you had set, the bogus one. You might want to check your location number and start your keypad with Autoconnect NO for the first time and specify the proper location. Then you can set it to YES and have the keypad automatically start from that proper location.

Rolando







-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... mailto:geoflewis@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Rolando,
As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0

AP1200 Site Settings https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
www.dropbox.com http://www.dropbox.com
Shared with Dropbox


V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver


Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@... mailto:groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com?]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... mailto:groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com?]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> https://aka.ms/o0ukef%3E;;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... mailto:groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com?]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Roland Christen
 

As long as location is always the same, it's irrelevant for unparking. Only the local time comes into play because that is the only way for the mount to know what the hour angle is.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: pnagy@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Rolando,

I thought location (as well as clock) was used for the first slew to a known object or star after unparking from one of four park positions. So, I normally set the mount to Park 4, power up the mount, unpark from Park 4, and slew to a star or object. So location data (as well as clock) is irrelevant for this case?

I know that subsequent slews after RCAL, clock and location are irrelevant. But isn't the very first slew after unparking from a known park position is dependent on clock and location?

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

It has absolutely no significance. GoTos are not regulated by observer location. Never has been. You can tell it that you're in Bangalore and as long as you tell it that it's 8pm daylight savings (if that's what time it is where you are) and center/r ecal on the first star, the mount servo will happily slew exactly to the next object and the next, etc. It won't care where you told it that you are located. The meridian flips are based on hour angle, same as the horizon limits east and west.

I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out,
Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Rolando,
That is one of the first things I checked, but only locations 1 and 2 are set and both have the identical correct settings. Locations 3-9 are all 0000's. So far I have not found anywhere that holds the reported wrong longitude, so its very curious. I will try your suggestion to start with autoconnect NO and specify the correct location to see if that fixes it. I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out, which is not much of an issue, but is there anything else I should be aware off?
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 18:37
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 
You may have set the bogus setting in another location (Location2 perhaps?) When you set your keypad to YES, it used the last location that you had set, the bogus one. You might want to check your location number and start your keypad with Autoconnect NO for the first time and specify the proper location. Then you can set it to YES and have the keypad automatically start from that proper location.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Rolando,
As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...

V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> ><https://aka.ms/o0ukef>;;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>










Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

topboxman
 

Hi Rolando,

I thought location (as well as clock) was used for the first slew to a known object or star after unparking from one of four park positions. So, I normally set the mount to Park 4, power up the mount, unpark from Park 4, and slew to a star or object. So location data (as well as clock) is irrelevant for this case?

I know that subsequent slews after RCAL, clock and location are irrelevant. But isn't the very first slew after unparking from a known park position is dependent on clock and location?

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., <chris1011@...> wrote :

It has absolutely no significance. GoTos are not regulated by observer location. Never has been. You can tell it that you're in Bangalore and as long as you tell it that it's 8pm daylight savings (if that's what time it is where you are) and center/recal on the first star, the mount servo will happily slew exactly to the next object and the next, etc. It won't care where you told it that you are located. The meridian flips are based on hour angle, same as the horizon limits east and west.

I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out,
Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Rolando,
That is one of the first things I checked, but only locations 1 and 2 are set and both have the identical correct settings. Locations 3-9 are all 0000's. So far I have not found anywhere that holds the reported wrong longitude, so its very curious. I will try your suggestion to start with autoconnect NO and specify the correct location to see if that fixes it. I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out, which is not much of an issue, but is there anything else I should be aware off?
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 18:37
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 
You may have set the bogus setting in another location (Location2 perhaps?) When you set your keypad to YES, it used the last location that you had set, the bogus one. You might want to check your location number and start your keypad with Autoconnect NO for the first time and specify the proper location. Then you can set it to YES and have the keypad automatically start from that proper location.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Rolando,
As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...

V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> > Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef>;;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]






Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof Lewis
 

Thanks Rolando,

Perfect, I'll just carry on observing and imaging 😊. I really appreciate you clarifying for me.

Regards,


Geof

________________________________
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of chris1011@aol.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 20:21
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



It has absolutely no significance. GoTos are not regulated by observer location. Never has been. You can tell it that you're in Bangalore and as long as you tell it that it's 8pm daylight savings (if that's what time it is where you are) and center/recal on the first star, the mount servo will happily slew exactly to the next object and the next, etc. It won't care where you told it that you are located. The meridian flips are based on hour angle, same as the horizon limits east and west.

I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out,
Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@hotmail.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Rolando,
That is one of the first things I checked, but only locations 1 and 2 are set and both have the identical correct settings. Locations 3-9 are all 0000's. So far I have not found anywhere that holds the reported wrong longitude, so its very curious. I will try your suggestion to start with autoconnect NO and specify the correct location to see if that fixes it. I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out, which is not much of an issue, but is there anything else I should be aware off?
Regards,

Geof
________________________________
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of chris1011@aol.com<mailto:chris1011@aol.com> [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: 16 April 2018 18:37
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver


You may have set the bogus setting in another location (Location2 perhaps?) When you set your keypad to YES, it used the last location that you had set, the bogus one. You might want to check your location number and start your keypad with Autoconnect NO for the first time and specify the proper location. Then you can set it to YES and have the keypad automatically start from that proper location.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@hotmail.com<mailto:geoflewis@hotmail.com> [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Rolando,
As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
[https://cfl.dropboxstatic.com/static/images/icons128/folder_dropbox.png]<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0>

AP1200 Site Settings<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0>
www.dropbox.com<http://www.dropbox.com>
Shared with Dropbox


V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof
________________________________
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of chris1011@aol.com<mailto:chris1011@aol.com> [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@hotmail.com<mailto:geoflewis@hotmail.com> [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@gralak.com<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?
After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?
That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com?>]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Ray,

Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
V2 driver as site settings.

Regards,




Geof


________________________________

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@gralak.com<mailto:groups3@gralak.com> [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com?>]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Ray,
I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
the
HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
Regards,

Geof

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef><https://aka.ms/o0ukef%3E>;;
________________________________

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
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Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Geof,

I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
and
latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
but I
saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
that
updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
screenshot of the driver site info.
Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
with
the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
one
of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com?>]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com<mailto:gto@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Ray,
I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
and
latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
but I
saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
that
updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
screenshot of the driver site info.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
Regards,

Geof





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Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Roland Christen
 

It has absolutely no significance. GoTos are not regulated by observer location. Never has been. You can tell it that you're in Bangalore and as long as you tell it that it's 8pm daylight savings (if that's what time it is where you are) and center/recal on the first star, the mount servo will happily slew exactly to the next object and the next, etc. It won't care where you told it that you are located. The meridian flips are based on hour angle, same as the horizon limits east and west.

I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out,
Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 2:09 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Rolando,
That is one of the first things I checked, but only locations 1 and 2 are set and both have the identical correct settings. Locations 3-9 are all 0000's. So far I have not found anywhere that holds the reported wrong longitude, so its very curious. I will try your suggestion to start with autoconnect NO and specify the correct location to see if that fixes it. I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out, which is not much of an issue, but is there anything else I should be aware off?
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 18:37
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 
You may have set the bogus setting in another location (Location2 perhaps?) When you set your keypad to YES, it used the last location that you had set, the bogus one. You might want to check your location number and start your keypad with Autoconnect NO for the first time and specify the proper location. Then you can set it to YES and have the keypad automatically start from that proper location.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Rolando,
As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...

V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> ><https://aka.ms/o0ukef>;;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>








Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof Lewis
 

Hi Rolando,

That is one of the first things I checked, but only locations 1 and 2 are set and both have the identical correct settings. Locations 3-9 are all 0000's. So far I have not found anywhere that holds the reported wrong longitude, so its very curious. I will try your suggestion to start with autoconnect NO and specify the correct location to see if that fixes it. I'm not sure what the implications are of this slightly wrong longitude, so what if anything will that affect. Presumably my GOTOs and meridian flip times will be very slightly out, which is not much of an issue, but is there anything else I should be aware off?

Regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto]
Sent: 16 April 2018 18:37
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

You may have set the bogus setting in another location (Location2 perhaps?) When you set your keypad to YES, it used the last location that you had set, the bogus one. You might want to check your location number and start your keypad with Autoconnect NO for the first time and specify the proper location. Then you can set it to YES and have the keypad automatically start from that proper location.

Rolando




-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Rolando,
As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...
www.dropbox.com
Shared with Dropbox

V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> ><https://aka.ms/o0ukef>;;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof Lewis
 

Thanks Peter,

I set it to EXT and saw that I could override that on start up by hitting the MENU button and then following keypad instructions to unpark. I appreciate your help and hopefully I'll be good to go. I do, however, still have the same spurious longitude showing in the V2 driver after I've used the HC this way. That said if I connect via EXT then the V2 driver shows same site and Mount Actual longitude. It's certainly a curious one....

Regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... on behalf of pnagy@... [ap-gto]
Sent: 16 April 2018 18:30
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

If you plan to use either computer or HC or both, then I suggest to set the Keypad to EXT. If you don't use the computer and HC is set to EXT, simply press HC's MENU button to use HC to initialize the mount. EXT setting will not prevent from using HC without the computer.

I would start from scratch and treat your mount as if you use it for the first time and follow my instructions. Once all relevant data are entered and set, then you should be fine from then on.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

Thanks Peter,

As I just replied to Rolando, I've just been checking the Keypad settings - mine was set to "YES", so I'm wondering if I should change that to "EXT".

Regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... on behalf of pnagy@... [ap-gto]
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:11
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

I think people from Astro-Physics will have very limited access to the internet because they may be at the big astronomy show this week.

Anyway, read the Keypad manual at:

http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad/keypad-manual.pdf

www.astro-physics.com
1 Contents About this mAnuAl 5 Gto KeypAd ContRolleR 6 layout and buttons of the Keypad 6 Vacuum Fluorescent display 6 n-s-e-W directional buttons 6
www.astro-physics.com
1 Contents About this mAnuAl 5 Gto KeypAd ContRolleR 6 layout and buttons of the Keypad 6 Vacuum Fluorescent display 6 n-s-e-W directional buttons 6


See page 15 about setting the Keypad to "EXT". It safely allows you to use both the computer and keypad at the same time (if that's what you wanted to do).

Also look at A-P V2 ASCOM driver manual at:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

It will show you how to enter your local location data in A-P V2 ASCOM driver. Be sure to click on "SAVE" button after finishing entering necessary data. If you don't, it will use previously incorrect data.

After changing the Keypad setting to "EXT", turn off the mount, wait for 15 seconds, turn on the mount. You will see on the hand controller displaying something like it's waiting for the computer to connect to CP3/4 box of your mount. After starting the ASCOM client software like PHD2, the Keypad will switch to main menu display indicating the CP3/4 got initialized by your computer.

The following is a one time operation. Then do 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' which will load the same location data from A-P V2 ASCOM driver to your Keypad. Then you should save this location data in your Keypad (i.e Location <1-9>).

You should be set from then on and your mount should be properly initialized by computer or Keypad from now on until you go to a different site with different Long/Lat which you will have to change Location data.

Hope this is clear.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

Hi,
I've noticed that the 'Mount Actual' Longtitude settings in the V2 driver are not correct and I don't know how to change it. I have entered the correct site settings in the V2 Driver and also set the same in the AP1200 HC, but that is not what I'm seeing in the driver, so where is it getting the wrong info from and how do I change it please? My actual longtitude is E01:06:13, but the V2 driver is reporting Mount Actual as E00:53:02. Not a big difference, but its wrong nevertheless....
Thanks in advance,

Geof



Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Roland Christen
 

You may have set the bogus setting in another location (Location2 perhaps?) When you set your keypad to YES, it used the last location that you had set, the bogus one. You might want to check your location number and start your keypad with Autoconnect NO for the first time and specify the proper location. Then you can set it to YES and have the keypad automatically start from that proper location.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Rolando,
As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...

V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> ><https://aka.ms/o0ukef>;;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

topboxman
 

If you plan to use either computer or HC or both, then I suggest to set the Keypad to EXT. If you don't use the computer and HC is set to EXT, simply press HC's MENU button to use HC to initialize the mount. EXT setting will not prevent from using HC without the computer.

I would start from scratch and treat your mount as if you use it for the first time and follow my instructions. Once all relevant data are entered and set, then you should be fine from then on.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., <geoflewis@...> wrote :

Thanks Peter,

As I just replied to Rolando, I've just been checking the Keypad settings - mine was set to "YES", so I'm wondering if I should change that to "EXT".

Regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of pnagy@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:11
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

I think people from Astro-Physics will have very limited access to the internet because they may be at the big astronomy show this week.

Anyway, read the Keypad manual at:

http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad/keypad-manual.pdf

www.astro-physics.com
1 Contents About this mAnuAl 5 Gto KeypAd ContRolleR 6 layout and buttons of the Keypad 6 Vacuum Fluorescent display 6 n-s-e-W directional buttons 6


See page 15 about setting the Keypad to "EXT". It safely allows you to use both the computer and keypad at the same time (if that's what you wanted to do).

Also look at A-P V2 ASCOM driver manual at:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

It will show you how to enter your local location data in A-P V2 ASCOM driver. Be sure to click on "SAVE" button after finishing entering necessary data. If you don't, it will use previously incorrect data.

After changing the Keypad setting to "EXT", turn off the mount, wait for 15 seconds, turn on the mount. You will see on the hand controller displaying something like it's waiting for the computer to connect to CP3/4 box of your mount. After starting the ASCOM client software like PHD2, the Keypad will switch to main menu display indicating the CP3/4 got initialized by your computer.

The following is a one time operation. Then do 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' which will load the same location data from A-P V2 ASCOM driver to your Keypad. Then you should save this location data in your Keypad (i.e Location <1-9>).

You should be set from then on and your mount should be properly initialized by computer or Keypad from now on until you go to a different site with different Long/Lat which you will have to change Location data.

Hope this is clear.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <geoflewis@...> wrote :

Hi,
I've noticed that the 'Mount Actual' Longtitude settings in the V2 driver are not correct and I don't know how to change it. I have entered the correct site settings in the V2 Driver and also set the same in the AP1200 HC, but that is not what I'm seeing in the driver, so where is it getting the wrong info from and how do I change it please? My actual longtitude is E01:06:13, but the V2 driver is reporting Mount Actual as E00:53:02. Not a big difference, but its wrong nevertheless....
Thanks in advance,

Geof



Re: GTO3600 runaway behavior

Roland Christen
 

There are three startup modes in the keypad: Autoconnect NO, Autoconnect YES and EXT. When you are in EXT mode, it is assumed that you want to control the mount via your computer. So the mount will wait for your computer to initialize. Your keypad meanwhile will wait for the computer to initialize. That is the normal way of operation. However, you can bypass the EXT mode by pressing MENU and the keypad will then ask you for a manual startup - same as if you were in the NO mode. All this is fully explained in the manual.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



Thanks Rolando,
OK so I'll change it to EXT. Will I still be able to use the HC for visual without connecting the laptop?

BTW I wish all AP team and users a great time at NEAIC and NEAF - it's a bit too far for me to travel 😊.
Best regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:40
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior
 
 
If you want to control the mount with just the keypad, set it to YES. If you want the mount to start up with your computer driver, set the keypad to EXT.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: howard ; ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



Thanks Rolando,
As suggested by Peter (pnagy), I just checked the Keypad start up setting which is set to "YES", so should I change that to "EXT"? I use the mount both via the Keypad for visual observing and via the laptop for imaging. I don't know if the Longitude has always been wrong or if it changed sometime (it is only a few miles out), as I only noticed yesterday which was the first time I used the rig since we entered Daylight Savings and I had some issues (user error probably) getting my mount time correct, so I was checking everything.
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:17
To: ap-gto@...; howard@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior
 
 
I have forwarded your message to Howard@.... He can contact you today and help you with this problem. It might be a simple software bug that he can fix over the net.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: ssrfo59@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 12:04 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



GTO3600
GTOCP4
SkyX
AP V2 driver, latest version

After running our mount for an hour or so, it will suddenly "take off" when given a slew or jog command.  Repeated commands via software to stop or abort don't work.  Pressing STOP on the keypad pauses the motion for a half-second or so, but the mount then continues.  The only way we've been able to stop it is to cut mount power.  After start up, the mount is completely lost and tracks at a non-sidereal (and significantly faster) rate.

This has happened for three nights in a row: the mount works fine for an hour or so and then goes rogue.

Any help, ideas, test, etc., would be greatly appreciated!

Steve S.
RFO








Re: GTO3600 runaway behavior

Geof Lewis
 

Thanks Rolando,

OK so I'll change it to EXT. Will I still be able to use the HC for visual without connecting the laptop?


BTW I wish all AP team and users a great time at NEAIC and NEAF - it's a bit too far for me to travel 😊.

Best regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:40
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior
 
 

If you want to control the mount with just the keypad, set it to YES. If you want the mount to start up with your computer driver, set the keypad to EXT.

Rolando




-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: howard <howard@...>; ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



Thanks Rolando,
As suggested by Peter (pnagy), I just checked the Keypad start up setting which is set to "YES", so should I change that to "EXT"? I use the mount both via the Keypad for visual observing and via the laptop for imaging. I don't know if the Longitude has always been wrong or if it changed sometime (it is only a few miles out), as I only noticed yesterday which was the first time I used the rig since we entered Daylight Savings and I had some issues (user error probably) getting my mount time correct, so I was checking everything.
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:17
To: ap-gto@...; howard@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior
 
 
I have forwarded your message to Howard@.... He can contact you today and help you with this problem. It might be a simple software bug that he can fix over the net.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: ssrfo59@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 12:04 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



GTO3600
GTOCP4
SkyX
AP V2 driver, latest version

After running our mount for an hour or so, it will suddenly "take off" when given a slew or jog command.  Repeated commands via software to stop or abort don't work.  Pressing STOP on the keypad pauses the motion for a half-second or so, but the mount then continues.  The only way we've been able to stop it is to cut mount power.  After start up, the mount is completely lost and tracks at a non-sidereal (and significantly faster) rate.

This has happened for three nights in a row: the mount works fine for an hour or so and then goes rogue.

Any help, ideas, test, etc., would be greatly appreciated!

Steve S.
RFO






Re: [External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof Lewis
 

Thanks Rolando,

As per the images that I uploaded to my Dropbox folder the site settings in the V2 driver and the HC are the same, but when I have the HC connected as well as the V2 driver the V2 driver reports a different Mount Actual position. See images at link below...

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0


V2 site set up and HC site both show correct longitude as E 01 06 13.0, BUT with the HC connected the Mount Actual is being reported in the V2 driver as E 00 53 02.0, which is in the middle of a farm some 10 miles away, where I have never been....!!
Regards,

Geof


From: ap-gto@... on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto]
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:42
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Fwd: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 


Here is the answer from our software engineer:

Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.


Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?

Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@... [ap-gto] Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@... on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... [ap-gto]
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> >;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@... on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-gto]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > >
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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[External] Fwd: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Roland Christen
 

Here is the answer from our software engineer:




Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:40 am
Subject: RE: [External] Fwd: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



I cannot explain. Is the setting in the HC correct for the site he is at, and is the correct site chosen?

I have never heard of a case where the HC sent something different to the mount than what HC site setting says to send.



Mike can you explain why the HC sets the longitude differently?


Roland

-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@hotmail.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Ray,

Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.



Hi George,

If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.

Regards,



Geof




From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'groups3@gralak.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver







Geof,

Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?
After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?
That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Ray,

Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
V2 driver as site settings.

Regards,




Geof


________________________________

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@gralak.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Ray,
I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
the
HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
Regards,

Geof

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________________________________

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@gralak.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Geof,

I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
and
latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
but I
saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
that
updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
screenshot of the driver site info.
Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
with
the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
one
of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Hi Ray,
I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
and
latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
but I
saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
that
updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
screenshot of the driver site info.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
<https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
Regards,

Geof
















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Re: GTO3600 runaway behavior

Roland Christen
 

If you want to control the mount with just the keypad, set it to YES. If you want the mount to start up with your computer driver, set the keypad to EXT.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto]
To: howard ; ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



Thanks Rolando,
As suggested by Peter (pnagy), I just checked the Keypad start up setting which is set to "YES", so should I change that to "EXT"? I use the mount both via the Keypad for visual observing and via the laptop for imaging. I don't know if the Longitude has always been wrong or if it changed sometime (it is only a few miles out), as I only noticed yesterday which was the first time I used the rig since we entered Daylight Savings and I had some issues (user error probably) getting my mount time correct, so I was checking everything.
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:17
To: ap-gto@...; howard@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior
 
 
I have forwarded your message to Howard@.... He can contact you today and help you with this problem. It might be a simple software bug that he can fix over the net.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: ssrfo59@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 12:04 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



GTO3600
GTOCP4
SkyX
AP V2 driver, latest version

After running our mount for an hour or so, it will suddenly "take off" when given a slew or jog command.  Repeated commands via software to stop or abort don't work.  Pressing STOP on the keypad pauses the motion for a half-second or so, but the mount then continues.  The only way we've been able to stop it is to cut mount power.  After start up, the mount is completely lost and tracks at a non-sidereal (and significantly faster) rate.

This has happened for three nights in a row: the mount works fine for an hour or so and then goes rogue.

Any help, ideas, test, etc., would be greatly appreciated!

Steve S.
RFO






Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Geof Lewis
 

Thanks Peter,

As I just replied to Rolando, I've just been checking the Keypad settings - mine was set to "YES", so I'm wondering if I should change that to "EXT".

Regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... on behalf of pnagy@... [ap-gto]
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:11
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 

I think people from Astro-Physics will have very limited access to the internet because they may be at the big astronomy show this week.

Anyway, read the Keypad manual at:

http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad/keypad-manual.pdf

www.astro-physics.com
1 Contents About this mAnuAl 5 Gto KeypAd ContRolleR 6 layout and buttons of the Keypad 6 Vacuum Fluorescent display 6 n-s-e-W directional buttons 6


See page 15 about setting the Keypad to "EXT". It safely allows you to use both the computer and keypad at the same time (if that's what you wanted to do).

Also look at A-P V2 ASCOM driver manual at:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

It will show you how to enter your local location data in A-P V2 ASCOM driver. Be sure to click on "SAVE" button after finishing entering necessary data. If you don't, it will use previously incorrect data.

After changing the Keypad setting to "EXT", turn off the mount, wait for 15 seconds, turn on the mount. You will see on the hand controller displaying something like it's waiting for the computer to connect to CP3/4 box of your mount. After starting the ASCOM client software like PHD2, the Keypad will switch to main menu display indicating the CP3/4 got initialized by your computer.

The following is a one time operation. Then do 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' which will load the same location data from A-P V2 ASCOM driver to your Keypad. Then you should save this location data in your Keypad (i.e Location <1-9>).

You should be set from then on and your mount should be properly initialized by computer or Keypad from now on until you go to a different site with different Long/Lat which you will have to change Location data.

Hope this is clear.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

Hi,
I've noticed that the 'Mount Actual' Longtitude settings in the V2 driver are not correct and I don't know how to change it. I have entered the correct site settings in the V2 Driver and also set the same in the AP1200 HC, but that is not what I'm seeing in the driver, so where is it getting the wrong info from and how do I change it please? My actual longtitude is E01:06:13, but the V2 driver is reporting Mount Actual as E00:53:02. Not a big difference, but its wrong nevertheless....
Thanks in advance,

Geof



Re: GTO3600 runaway behavior

Geof Lewis
 

Thanks Rolando,

As suggested by Peter (pnagy), I just checked the Keypad start up setting which is set to "YES", so should I change that to "EXT"? I use the mount both via the Keypad for visual observing and via the laptop for imaging. I don't know if the Longitude has always been wrong or if it changed sometime (it is only a few miles out), as I only noticed yesterday which was the first time I used the rig since we entered Daylight Savings and I had some issues (user error probably) getting my mount time correct, so I was checking everything.

Regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto]
Sent: 16 April 2018 17:17
To: ap-gto@...; howard@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior
 
 

I have forwarded your message to Howard@.... He can contact you today and help you with this problem. It might be a simple software bug that he can fix over the net.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.




-----Original Message-----
From: ssrfo59@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 12:04 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTO3600 runaway behavior



GTO3600
GTOCP4
SkyX
AP V2 driver, latest version

After running our mount for an hour or so, it will suddenly "take off" when given a slew or jog command.  Repeated commands via software to stop or abort don't work.  Pressing STOP on the keypad pauses the motion for a half-second or so, but the mount then continues.  The only way we've been able to stop it is to cut mount power.  After start up, the mount is completely lost and tracks at a non-sidereal (and significantly faster) rate.

This has happened for three nights in a row: the mount works fine for an hour or so and then goes rogue.

Any help, ideas, test, etc., would be greatly appreciated!

Steve S.
RFO




Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Roland Christen
 

We are leaving tomorrow, so today we are still here. Will work on this issue.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: pnagy@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 11:12 am
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



I think people from Astro-Physics will have very limited access to the internet because they may be at the big astronomy show this week.

Anyway, read the Keypad manual at:

http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad/keypad-manual.pdf

See page 15 about setting the Keypad to "EXT". It safely allows you to use both the computer and keypad at the same time (if that's what you wanted to do).

Also look at A-P V2 ASCOM driver manual at:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

It will show you how to enter your local location data in A-P V2 ASCOM driver. Be sure to click on "SAVE" button after finishing entering necessary data. If you don't, it will use previously incorrect data.

After changing the Keypad setting to "EXT", turn off the mount, wait for 15 seconds, turn on the mount. You will see on the hand controller displaying something like it's waiting for the computer to connect to CP3/4 box of your mount. After starting the ASCOM client software like PHD2, the Keypad will switch to main menu display indicating the CP3/4 got initialized by your computer.

The following is a one time operation. Then do 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' which will load the same location data from A-P V2 ASCOM driver to your Keypad. Then you should save this location data in your Keypad (i.e Location <1-9>).

You should be set from then on and your mount should be properly initialized by computer or Keypad from now on until you go to a different site with different Long/Lat which you will have to change Location data.

Hope this is clear.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

Hi,
I've noticed that the 'Mount Actual' Longtitude settings in the V2 driver are not correct and I don't know how to change it. I have entered the correct site settings in the V2 Driver and also set the same in the AP1200 HC, but that is not what I'm seeing in the driver, so where is it getting the wrong info from and how do I change it please? My actual longtitude is E01:06:13, but the V2 driver is reporting Mount Actual as E00:53:02. Not a big difference, but its wrong nevertheless....
Thanks in advance,

Geof





Re: How to set correct mount position in V2 driver

Roland Christen
 

I will ask our software engineer about the reason the keypad sets the longitude differently. It may have something to do with your setting of local time.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Geof Lewis geoflewis@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Apr 16, 2018 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver



Thanks Ray,
Ok so I powered everything down including the laptop, disconnected the HC then powered everything up and connected the V2 driver using the PHD2 client. As you advised the V2 driver then reported the correct Mount Actual and Site settings both the same. So I powered everything off again, reconnected the HC and powered up again, then reconnected the V2 driver via PHD2 and am back where I was was with the same incorrect Mount Actual longitude setting, so I still have no idea how/where that is being set in the mount.

Hi George,
If you are following this please could explain how I can get the correct longitude settting in the mount via the HC. I have no idea how it became wrong in the first place.
Regards,

Geof

From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: 16 April 2018 15:06
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
 
 
Geof,

> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply?

After turning on the mount, you can initialize it with the AP V2 driver by starting any ASCOM client application that uses the
driver. When the driver connects to the mount it will initialize it, but you might want to be wary of the park/unpark settings.
Typically you want to unpark from last parked position, and park to one of the AP park positions.

You can find information about how to set the driver's initialization values in the help file, and also online here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/help/index.html?telescope_setup.htm

> Also what if I just want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all?

That's something that maybe George, Howard, or Roland might be better at describing as I very rarely use the hand controller.

Best regards,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:47 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> Please explain 'initialize mount' more fully. Is this just turning on the power supply? I can't connect my laptop to the
> mount via the driver before it is turned on, so I don't understand how to initialise it via the driver. Also what if I just
> want to use the HC not connect to a laptop at all? Surely there must be a way to set the correct Lat/Long via the
> HC..? I've checked the Driver set up and the site details are correct as they were yesterday and as reported in the
> V2 driver as site settings.
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Geof
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> Sent: 16 April 2018 13:51
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
>
>
>
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place?
>
> You can configure it in the driver's Setup window.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:20 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> > I'll try that, but how do I get the correct setting in the V2 driver in the first place? I've never run the mount without
> the
> > HC connected, yet it is reporting my correct latitude, so it clearly got that from somewhere....!!
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geof
> >
> ><https://aka.ms/o0ukef>;
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:07:41 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Geof,
> >
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> >
> > Have you tried letting the AP V2 driver initialize the mount instead of the hand controller? That is, disconnect the
> > hand controller completely to take it out of the loop. It seems like something had previously initialized the mount
> with
> > the Lat/Long values displayed by the driver. It could be that what you were looking at in the hand controller was
> one
> > of the saved settings in the hand controller and not what the mount actually had set.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > Author of PEMPro V3: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:52 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: RE: [ap-gto] How to set correct mount position in V2 driver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Ray,
> > > I'm clearly not understanding the 'initialize mount' procedure. I power the mount ON with just the HC and nothing
> > > else connected. I checked the 'Get Time/Loc from Mount' Option 3 setting which shows the correct longtitude
> and
> > > latitude. I also checked the Site Location Data Option 1 (Site 1), which has the correct longtitude and latitude,
> but I
> > > saved that again anyway. Next I connected my laptop via USB and opened the V2 driver (v5.10.02) which still
> > > reports the wrong 'Mount Actual' longtitude (NB the latitude is correct). If I refresh the Mount Actual Lat/Long
> that
> > > updates the Site Setting in the driver with the wrong Longtitude, so whilst they are then both reporting the same,
> > > they are both wrong. I've provided a link below to my Dropbox where there are pictures of my HC settings and
> > > screenshot of the driver site info.
> > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl=0
> > > <https://www.dropbox.com/sh/afk6cnx2nv0kiq4/AAAdXJQumAfsdx0i3dtURSwwa?dl =0>
> > > Sorry for being dumb, but what am I doing wrong please?
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Geof
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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