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Re: Balancing AP1100 Gto

Vince Salfranc
 

Hi,
I have tried to do everything here but i cannot balance a 80mm refractor on the AP1100.
Even with the clutch remove I cannot move the tube easily and a fish scale over 10 kg to even move the mount.
The tracking isn't bad but not as good as I would expect.
Thanks for looking
Vince 


Re: [ap-ug] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systemsDown ?

Derek Wong
 

Hi Thomas:

I verified that you are subscribed as a daily digest and that it is not bouncing.  Make sure it is not going into your spam folder.  Also, has it been more than a day or two?  Sometimes a digest does not come out for 24 hours or more.

Sincerely,

Derek


On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 6:12 AM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Sorry – Lance,
 
Typo – should have been the other AP group,  “AP-GTO”.
 
    Even so, generally it seems that  “Yahoo Groups” postings are way below the previous pre-Easter normal. Possibly, something is still wrong with their service. FACEBOOK really eroded confidence in personal postings on the web
 
Joe
 
From: Lance McCartney macshome03@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:53 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: [ap-ug] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systemsDown ?
 
What is the “A-GTO” group?
Thanks,
Lance



Re: [ap-ug] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systemsDown ?

Joe Zeglinski
 

Sorry – Lance,
 
Typo – should have been the other AP group,  “AP-GTO”.
 
    Even so, generally it seems that  “Yahoo Groups” postings are way below the previous pre-Easter normal. Possibly, something is still wrong with their service. FACEBOOK really eroded confidence in personal postings on the web
 
Joe
 
From: Lance McCartney macshome03@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 2:53 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: [ap-ug] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systemsDown ?
 
What is the “A-GTO” group?
Thanks,
Lance


Re: [ap-ug] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systemsDown ?

Lance McCartney
 

What is the “A-GTO” group?
Thanks,
Lance

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:58 PM
To: ap-ug@...; ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: [ap-ug] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systemsDown ?

 
Thanks, for everyone’s patience.
 
    Guess that was a false alarm – I just received my post from both AP groups (A-GTO & AP-UG),  in mere minutes.
Maybe folks all around the world, just aren’t back from their Easter vacations :-)
 
Joe




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Re: Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

Stuart
 

All - sense we've beaten this to death but just in case it is interesting, I did a NEW experiment wherein I unplugged the second range extender I have that helps reach the front upper floors of our house. The observatory range extender, the Netgear 1200 immediately started communicating (or in one test I had to reboot the router for everyone to connect). So I'm thinking the problem is conflict between my two range extenders (different brands). Man this is annoying. Anyway, that is all I have as an update.

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Ron, even more help - thanks! Yes, the 1200 is temperamental and it seems to really not like our southern Ontario weather anymore. 

I think this one you're suggesting would be the ticket. It has the minimum 4-ports on the back I need.

BTW - I learned a weird / obvious lesson years ago when I built my first observatory. I put the router in the window of the house to have line of sight to the shed. NO connection. I went to a local store (sort of like Best Buy) and talked to an experienced guy. I told him the scenario. He just stared at me for a second and said "How new are these windows?" and I said "Brand new" and he said "There's your problem. You are trying to punch through a metalized film in the window that provides the heat trapping feature. Put the device on the floor - it will go through wood without seeing it." I did this and voila - instant connect!

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

that's what I was using the netgear 1200 extender.  It still works, but is temperamental. 
My cable internet router is a netgear and has a very good range.  The 1200 extender as you know
creates a 2nd network. Seperate from the primary.  Sometimes my devices would connect to the router
in the house and not the extender and sometimes the other way around.

This mesh unit doesn't great another network and just extends the same.  So devices can connect
to the home router or the mesh extender.  I have IP cameras in the house that I typically would expect
to connect to the home router. But sometimes they connect to the mesh unit 300 feet away instead. = )

the 300 feet away is clear air...  IP cameras connect through the windows.  The router in the house would
require the IP cameras to run the signal through walls.  So they seem to prefer the mesh unit 300 ft away
and no wall. = )

My Nuc, my Mach1 my IP camera and my wifi ACPOWER switch all connect to the home network through
the mesh unit.   It was also very easy setup    AND HAS LIKE 4-5 LAN connections too!  

I've used it now about 4 months.  So far very pleased. It's also been winter in michigan, so it's been out in extreme
cold. 

hope this helps.


On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Ron, thanks for this! My Netgear 1200 (I think) is fading fast. QUITE annoying. 

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

my dome is 300ft out front of the house. I had some off and on issues with a netgear extender.  I recently saw they had a MESH extender that will work with any router. I install it in the dome and so far not a hiccup.  I had been considering a 2 unit mesh setup which ran around 300+.   This one appeared as a promo in my email and said it worked with any router so it's only one unit. (one box). Cost - I think was around 180.   nighthawk? mesh?  I don't recall.  Let me check my amazon order listing.

brb...
 


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Greg, my pals are dialing in remotely. I want it to be totally hands off for me where possible. Some nights the only clue I have that they're active is when I'm standing on my deck and the dome suddenly starts to open. So one way or another they need to access their computer here, their powerbar and the dome control. And as I said, the power bar and the dome control has to have a physical connection. They're assigned their own IP addresses so I don't think I can connect them to a computer where they ride piggyback.

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:14 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Stuart, not sure what your exactly doing but it sounds complicated. Would multiple headless computers help? I actually use 3 for various remote tasks.

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups..com]

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:28 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Greg, thanks! This IS a good idea. My challenge alas is that I have my two rigs in one observatory and an underground conduit to a second observatory where two pals of mine have their rigs. They are connecting their IP controlled powerbars to the extender in my observatory. In addition, the Control-by-Web relay that opens/closes the dome needs a hard connection to the internet access point. All this comes into a hub in the dome then the single cable over to my shed. So, I have the one cable entering my shed from the dome they're in, then in my shed I have the same situation ... two IP controlled powerbars and the shed roof control-by-web rely.. All need hard connections to the single access point.

 

When it was just me with the one set-up I was doing something much more like you but now things are "complicated"..

 

Stuart

 

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Stuart, may I suggest something totally different? I mount a headless computer inside a box on my scope's pier along with all the electronics needed. This keeps all the cables very short (especially those nasty USB cables). I then control that computer (which runs all the software taking images and controlling the scope and other hardware) from inside my house through TeamViewer. I've been doing this for 5 or 6 years without any problems both winter and summer. I did have a single ethernet cable running from the box to the house but have found it unnecessary.. Not sure what problem your trying to solve, so this may not help but just in case...

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:35 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Hi again. Joe's suggestion was a good one. What I may in fact need vs.. what I said is an "industrial" grade range extender.. Mine needs to have at least 4 ethernet ports on it. I am finding that all the ones I search for with the attribute "outdoor" are excellent at what they do but they are in weather-proof housings and only have power input. Mine will be in the shed protected from rain/snow but not cold/damp..

 

Mine needs a physical connection to my Control-by-Web relay for the roof and to my IP controlled powerbars. Alas, these devices are not wireless.

 

Any new thoughts based on this clarification?

 

Stuart

 

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:49 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hi Stuart,

There may be other more modern offers, but I have been quite pleased with my HAWKING model “HOWABN1” wireless N-Type comms, universal Hi Gain Repeater... It has huge “banana thick” perpendicular antenna sticks, and its “Cow Bell” rugged enclosure is suitable for your conditions. This product is meant as a universal repeater between buildings, and outdoor car lots.

Got mine over a decade ago, at Tiger Direct in GTA, before they downsized to the web.
It is limited to N-type 300 mbps comms – but that gives it more range.

Joe Z.

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Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Thomas Cohen
 

I’m still not getting the daily digest. Anyone know why and how to fix it?


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Joe Zeglinski
 

    USPS and Canada Post must now have put YAHOO Mail to shame – Yahoo, the new “Snail Mail Service” !!
I think that is the computer acronym “SMS” ?
 
    Tonight I just received FOUR (4) emails on the AP_UG Yahoo group – each one was  posted - MARCH 27th.
They are a little late ... aren’t they.... but I mean 8 days to arrive electronically. Maybe the next emails might  “arrive in a bottle, delivered by courier”.
 
    I mentioned this recent Yahoo Groups Mail delivery problem to our ISP tech support guy at ROGERS (Canada), and he said there was something in a memo, about Yahoo and AOL combining services under a new umbrella company. Maybe that is causing the current screw up. Perhaps they can’t get the two services to play nice together, or are busy making sure that “customer info” in their possession, is protected as it gets transferred  (shared) between partners,  and the respective other “associates” of these organizations – in light of the recent major social media and credit card  computer security breaches.
 
Joe


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Hector Santini
 

Hi Joe,
Thank you for the explanation.

Héctor



On Apr 4, 2018, at 11:51 AM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hector,
 
    The stuff that  gets put in our JUNK folder, is already “pre-screened” by our ISP’s word  search filters,  based on their “stored criteria”, and their software ADDS a flag onto our email if they think they find one that fits. They assume it is junk mail, but still MUST deliver it – even flagged – in case they were mistaken. Consider what would happen if the ISP’s junk definition file got erased, temporarily edited, or they reorganized their definition  criteria. My ISP is a Yahoo client, so they may even be simply passing on Yahoo’s  corporate opinion.
 
    One year, I was getting emails from a friend,  suddenly started being redirected to my JUNK folder, so I tested the system.. I sent myself an email with something totally innocuous, just a few words, including “Hello”, and the returned email went to JUNK, as well.
 
    You also should check your folder of previously  “accumulated” junk email criteria. After all, email systems, like maybe one you use as a client email on your PC (e.g. Live Mail etc.), try to “learn” what YOU once considered to be “junk mail”, and adds that to the pile of other disposed of junk emails. Microsoft ‘s “LIVE MAIL” client program for instance, has a checkbox to move what “seems like” PHISHING emails, to your JUNK box. That is a user settable option on the PC. ISP’s do the initial discrimination of PHISHING, and they can be wrong. If your friend’s email, contains just one suspicious word from Yahoo’s (Gmail, etc.) collection, the email can get Junked.
 
    Sometimes this “Artificial Intelligence technology, refinement” ends up in confusion, due to too many criteria.
That is why we are always warned to check inside our Junk Folder, for missed important emails.
 
    For example, lets say that you received a perfectly good email, totally harmless, and because you didn’t feel like getting it, just clicked on it as JUNK email. It may have even been from your clergy, or the Church, even the Vatican if you please. Well its content gets added to your personal dictionary of what you considered as junk. Then, at some point, another perfectly innocent email arrives that just happens to have one identical word – maybe the word “GOD” -  based on your previously incorrectly classified trashed item. So, it gets called JUNK as well (by your own PC criteria sifter), and you lose that and other email. e.g. Somebody emails you with the term “OMG” Oh my God” , or they say something was “God-awful” – and you lose a friend's perfectly innocent note, entirely.
 
    You have to be careful about telling a computer WHAT you consider JUNK, since we set our own personal criteria, sometimes rather carelessly. Don’t trust, or even rely,  on a computer system to differentiate Junk for you – leave that to your own mind.
Good Systems often fail, as we have found,  even democratic ones.
 
Joe
 
From: Hector Santini hsantini01@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:31 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Cc: ap-ug@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?
 


Hi,
 
For some reason I’m receiving the emails in the Junk Mail (not all). Don’t know criteria. Didn’t have any junk mail from the group before!
 
Héctor
 
 

On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:45 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 
Hi,
 
    Please excuse this Group’s test, but - Except for the AP-UG Group, I haven’t received any other YAHOO Group email downloads since before Easter.
For example, I’m not even seeing any email posts from AP-GTO Group, and I know they are prolific ... last one was March 31st.
 
    It’s like some kind of Internet nuclear winter. I belong to over a dozen Yahoo Groups, and there has never been such a problem with any of them until this weekend. Is Yahoo having yet another problem, or about to go under?
 
    My other (non-YAHOO) emails,  going & coming from everywhere else,   are just fine.
Wonder if this AP-GTO test email copy is returned to my INBOX.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hector,
 
    The stuff that  gets put in our JUNK folder, is already “pre-screened” by our ISP’s word  search filters,  based on their “stored criteria”, and their software ADDS a flag onto our email if they think they find one that fits. They assume it is junk mail, but still MUST deliver it – even flagged – in case they were mistaken. Consider what would happen if the ISP’s junk definition file got erased, temporarily edited, or they reorganized their definition  criteria. My ISP is a Yahoo client, so they may even be simply passing on Yahoo’s  corporate opinion.
 
    One year, I was getting emails from a friend,  suddenly started being redirected to my JUNK folder, so I tested the system. I sent myself an email with something totally innocuous, just a few words, including “Hello”, and the returned email went to JUNK, as well.
 
    You also should check your folder of previously  “accumulated” junk email criteria. After all, email systems, like maybe one you use as a client email on your PC (e.g. Live Mail etc.), try to “learn” what YOU once considered to be “junk mail”, and adds that to the pile of other disposed of junk emails. Microsoft ‘s “LIVE MAIL” client program for instance, has a checkbox to move what “seems like” PHISHING emails, to your JUNK box. That is a user settable option on the PC. ISP’s do the initial discrimination of PHISHING, and they can be wrong. If your friend’s email, contains just one suspicious word from Yahoo’s (Gmail, etc.) collection, the email can get Junked.
 
    Sometimes this “Artificial Intelligence technology, refinement” ends up in confusion, due to too many criteria.
That is why we are always warned to check inside our Junk Folder, for missed important emails.
 
    For example, lets say that you received a perfectly good email, totally harmless, and because you didn’t feel like getting it, just clicked on it as JUNK email. It may have even been from your clergy, or the Church, even the Vatican if you please. Well its content gets added to your personal dictionary of what you considered as junk. Then, at some point, another perfectly innocent email arrives that just happens to have one identical word – maybe the word “GOD” -  based on your previously incorrectly classified trashed item. So, it gets called JUNK as well (by your own PC criteria sifter), and you lose that and other email. e.g. Somebody emails you with the term “OMG” Oh my God” , or they say something was “God-awful” – and you lose a friend's perfectly innocent note, entirely.
 
    You have to be careful about telling a computer WHAT you consider JUNK, since we set our own personal criteria, sometimes rather carelessly. Don’t trust, or even rely,  on a computer system to differentiate Junk for you – leave that to your own mind.
Good Systems often fail, as we have found,  even democratic ones.
 
Joe
 
From: Hector Santini hsantini01@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 7:31 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Cc: ap-ug@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?
 


Hi,
 
For some reason I’m receiving the emails in the Junk Mail (not all). Don’t know criteria. Didn’t have any junk mail from the group before!
 
Héctor
 
 

On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:45 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 
Hi,
 
    Please excuse this Group’s test, but - Except for the AP-UG Group, I haven’t received any other YAHOO Group email downloads since before Easter.
For example, I’m not even seeing any email posts from AP-GTO Group, and I know they are prolific ... last one was March 31st.
 
    It’s like some kind of Internet nuclear winter. I belong to over a dozen Yahoo Groups, and there has never been such a problem with any of them until this weekend. Is Yahoo having yet another problem, or about to go under?
 
    My other (non-YAHOO) emails,  going & coming from everywhere else,   are just fine.
Wonder if this AP-GTO test email copy is returned to my INBOX.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Hector Santini
 

Hi,

For some reason I’m receiving the emails in the Junk Mail (not all). Don’t know criteria. Didn’t have any junk mail from the group before!

Héctor



On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:01 PM, Steven Elliott steven447@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Joe,


Nothing's going wrong - everybody's stuff is working and all are happy!


S




From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 7:45 p.m.
To: ap-gto@...; ap-ug@...
Subject: [ap-gto] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?
 
 

Hi,
 
    Please excuse this Group’s test, but - Except for the AP-UG Group, I haven’t received any other YAHOO Group email downloads since before Easter.
For example, I’m not even seeing any email posts from AP-GTO Group, and I know they are prolific ... last one was March 31st.
 
    It’s like some kind of Internet nuclear winter. I belong to over a dozen Yahoo Groups, and there has never been such a problem with any of them until this weekend. Is Yahoo having yet another problem, or about to go under?
 
    My other (non-YAHOO) emails,  going & coming from everywhere else,   are just fine.
Wonder if this AP-GTO test email copy is returned to my INBOX.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Hector Santini
 

Hi,

For some reason I’m receiving the emails in the Junk Mail (not all). Don’t know criteria. Didn’t have any junk mail from the group before!

Héctor



On Apr 3, 2018, at 7:45 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hi,
 
    Please excuse this Group’s test, but - Except for the AP-UG Group, I haven’t received any other YAHOO Group email downloads since before Easter.
For example, I’m not even seeing any email posts from AP-GTO Group, and I know they are prolific ... last one was March 31st.
 
    It’s like some kind of Internet nuclear winter. I belong to over a dozen Yahoo Groups, and there has never been such a problem with any of them until this weekend. Is Yahoo having yet another problem, or about to go under?
 
    My other (non-YAHOO) emails,  going & coming from everywhere else,   are just fine.
Wonder if this AP-GTO test email copy is returned to my INBOX.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks for your further info, Woody.
 
    Oddly, I also had a couple of AP group emails that lost their way for 4 days last week, finally returned  to me as “undeliverable”.
When the Yahoo service was flakey about a month ago, or so, we  here, all got an apology from Rogers our ISP, about Yahoo’s problems that weekend. They may still be tweaking the new Yahoo system.
 
    Since others have reported no problems today, maybe Yahoo is running “regional” tests, so some are fine, and others not so much, recently. They may be briefly cutting off certain ISP’s for example.
 
Joe


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Steven
 

Joe,


Nothing's going wrong - everybody's stuff is working and all are happy!


S




From: ap-gto@... on behalf of 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 7:45 p.m.
To: ap-gto@...; ap-ug@...
Subject: [ap-gto] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?
 
 

Hi,
 
    Please excuse this Group’s test, but - Except for the AP-UG Group, I haven’t received any other YAHOO Group email downloads since before Easter.
For example, I’m not even seeing any email posts from AP-GTO Group, and I know they are prolific ... last one was March 31st.
 
    It’s like some kind of Internet nuclear winter. I belong to over a dozen Yahoo Groups, and there has never been such a problem with any of them until this weekend. Is Yahoo having yet another problem, or about to go under?
 
    My other (non-YAHOO) emails,  going & coming from everywhere else,   are just fine.
Wonder if this AP-GTO test email copy is returned to my INBOX.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 


Re: OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Woody Schlom <woody@...>
 

Joe,



There are problems, but I don’t know where.



I have been receiving messages daily from various Yahoo Groups (including this one), but I’ve also received several returned messages and replies I sent to various Yahoo Groups as being undeliverable. Apparently they bounced around for over a week or two and finally came back as undeliverable. The ones that came back didn’t appear to be any different than any of the many others I successfully sent or replied to.



I don’t know if it’s Yahoo, my ISP, or a combination. I do know that my ISP changed its Email protocols recently and I had to reconfigure my old Email client programs to conform. And my very old version of Outlook running on Win-2000 Pro absolutely wasn’t able to conform to the latest Email protocol changes. I had to replace that entire old machine.



Woody



From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 4:46 PM
To: ap-gto@...; ap-ug@...
Subject: [ap-gto] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?





Hi,



Please excuse this Group’s test, but - Except for the AP-UG Group, I haven’t received any other YAHOO Group email downloads since before Easter.

For example, I’m not even seeing any email posts from AP-GTO Group, and I know they are prolific ... last one was March 31st.



It’s like some kind of Internet nuclear winter. I belong to over a dozen Yahoo Groups, and there has never been such a problem with any of them until this weekend. Is Yahoo having yet another problem, or about to go under?



My other (non-YAHOO) emails, going & coming from everywhere else, are just fine.

Wonder if this AP-GTO test email copy is returned to my INBOX.



Thanks,

Joe







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [ap-ug] OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks, for everyone’s patience.
 
    Guess that was a false alarm – I just received my post from both AP groups (A-GTO & AP-UG),  in mere minutes.
Maybe folks all around the world, just aren’t back from their Easter vacations :-)
 
Joe


OT - Are most of the Yahoo Groups email systems Down ?

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi,
 
    Please excuse this Group’s test, but - Except for the AP-UG Group, I haven’t received any other YAHOO Group email downloads since before Easter.
For example, I’m not even seeing any email posts from AP-GTO Group, and I know they are prolific ... last one was March 31st.
 
    It’s like some kind of Internet nuclear winter. I belong to over a dozen Yahoo Groups, and there has never been such a problem with any of them until this weekend. Is Yahoo having yet another problem, or about to go under?
 
    My other (non-YAHOO) emails,  going & coming from everywhere else,   are just fine.
Wonder if this AP-GTO test email copy is returned to my INBOX.
 
Thanks,
Joe
 


Re: Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

Ron Kramer
 

that's what I was using the netgear 1200 extender.  It still works, but is temperamental. 
My cable internet router is a netgear and has a very good range.  The 1200 extender as you know
creates a 2nd network. Seperate from the primary.  Sometimes my devices would connect to the router
in the house and not the extender and sometimes the other way around.

This mesh unit doesn't great another network and just extends the same.  So devices can connect
to the home router or the mesh extender.  I have IP cameras in the house that I typically would expect
to connect to the home router. But sometimes they connect to the mesh unit 300 feet away instead. = )

the 300 feet away is clear air...  IP cameras connect through the windows.  The router in the house would
require the IP cameras to run the signal through walls.  So they seem to prefer the mesh unit 300 ft away
and no wall. = )

My Nuc, my Mach1 my IP camera and my wifi ACPOWER switch all connect to the home network through
the mesh unit.   It was also very easy setup    AND HAS LIKE 4-5 LAN connections too!  

I've used it now about 4 months.  So far very pleased. It's also been winter in michigan, so it's been out in extreme
cold. 

hope this helps.


On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Ron, thanks for this! My Netgear 1200 (I think) is fading fast. QUITE annoying. 

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

my dome is 300ft out front of the house. I had some off and on issues with a netgear extender.  I recently saw they had a MESH extender that will work with any router. I install it in the dome and so far not a hiccup.  I had been considering a 2 unit mesh setup which ran around 300+.   This one appeared as a promo in my email and said it worked with any router so it's only one unit. (one box). Cost - I think was around 180.   nighthawk? mesh?  I don't recall.  Let me check my amazon order listing.

brb...
 


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Greg, my pals are dialing in remotely. I want it to be totally hands off for me where possible. Some nights the only clue I have that they're active is when I'm standing on my deck and the dome suddenly starts to open. So one way or another they need to access their computer here, their powerbar and the dome control. And as I said, the power bar and the dome control has to have a physical connection. They're assigned their own IP addresses so I don't think I can connect them to a computer where they ride piggyback.

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:14 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Stuart, not sure what your exactly doing but it sounds complicated. Would multiple headless computers help? I actually use 3 for various remote tasks.

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:28 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Greg, thanks! This IS a good idea. My challenge alas is that I have my two rigs in one observatory and an underground conduit to a second observatory where two pals of mine have their rigs. They are connecting their IP controlled powerbars to the extender in my observatory. In addition, the Control-by-Web relay that opens/closes the dome needs a hard connection to the internet access point. All this comes into a hub in the dome then the single cable over to my shed. So, I have the one cable entering my shed from the dome they're in, then in my shed I have the same situation ... two IP controlled powerbars and the shed roof control-by-web rely.. All need hard connections to the single access point.

 

When it was just me with the one set-up I was doing something much more like you but now things are "complicated"..

 

Stuart

 

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Stuart, may I suggest something totally different? I mount a headless computer inside a box on my scope's pier along with all the electronics needed. This keeps all the cables very short (especially those nasty USB cables). I then control that computer (which runs all the software taking images and controlling the scope and other hardware) from inside my house through TeamViewer. I've been doing this for 5 or 6 years without any problems both winter and summer. I did have a single ethernet cable running from the box to the house but have found it unnecessary.. Not sure what problem your trying to solve, so this may not help but just in case...

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:35 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Hi again. Joe's suggestion was a good one. What I may in fact need vs.. what I said is an "industrial" grade range extender.. Mine needs to have at least 4 ethernet ports on it. I am finding that all the ones I search for with the attribute "outdoor" are excellent at what they do but they are in weather-proof housings and only have power input. Mine will be in the shed protected from rain/snow but not cold/damp..

 

Mine needs a physical connection to my Control-by-Web relay for the roof and to my IP controlled powerbars. Alas, these devices are not wireless.

 

Any new thoughts based on this clarification?

 

Stuart

 

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:49 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hi Stuart,

There may be other more modern offers, but I have been quite pleased with my HAWKING model “HOWABN1” wireless N-Type comms, universal Hi Gain Repeater... It has huge “banana thick” perpendicular antenna sticks, and its “Cow Bell” rugged enclosure is suitable for your conditions. This product is meant as a universal repeater between buildings, and outdoor car lots.

Got mine over a decade ago, at Tiger Direct in GTA, before they downsized to the web.
It is limited to N-type 300 mbps comms – but that gives it more range.

Joe Z.

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Re: Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

Stuart
 

Ron, thanks for this! My Netgear 1200 (I think) is fading fast. QUITE annoying. 

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

my dome is 300ft out front of the house. I had some off and on issues with a netgear extender.  I recently saw they had a MESH extender that will work with any router. I install it in the dome and so far not a hiccup.  I had been considering a 2 unit mesh setup which ran around 300+.   This one appeared as a promo in my email and said it worked with any router so it's only one unit. (one box). Cost - I think was around 180.   nighthawk? mesh?  I don't recall.  Let me check my amazon order listing.

brb...
 


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Greg, my pals are dialing in remotely. I want it to be totally hands off for me where possible. Some nights the only clue I have that they're active is when I'm standing on my deck and the dome suddenly starts to open. So one way or another they need to access their computer here, their powerbar and the dome control. And as I said, the power bar and the dome control has to have a physical connection. They're assigned their own IP addresses so I don't think I can connect them to a computer where they ride piggyback.

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:14 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Stuart, not sure what your exactly doing but it sounds complicated. Would multiple headless computers help? I actually use 3 for various remote tasks.

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:28 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Greg, thanks! This IS a good idea. My challenge alas is that I have my two rigs in one observatory and an underground conduit to a second observatory where two pals of mine have their rigs. They are connecting their IP controlled powerbars to the extender in my observatory. In addition, the Control-by-Web relay that opens/closes the dome needs a hard connection to the internet access point. All this comes into a hub in the dome then the single cable over to my shed. So, I have the one cable entering my shed from the dome they're in, then in my shed I have the same situation ... two IP controlled powerbars and the shed roof control-by-web rely.. All need hard connections to the single access point.

 

When it was just me with the one set-up I was doing something much more like you but now things are "complicated"..

 

Stuart

 

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Stuart, may I suggest something totally different? I mount a headless computer inside a box on my scope's pier along with all the electronics needed. This keeps all the cables very short (especially those nasty USB cables). I then control that computer (which runs all the software taking images and controlling the scope and other hardware) from inside my house through TeamViewer. I've been doing this for 5 or 6 years without any problems both winter and summer. I did have a single ethernet cable running from the box to the house but have found it unnecessary.. Not sure what problem your trying to solve, so this may not help but just in case...

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:35 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Hi again. Joe's suggestion was a good one. What I may in fact need vs.. what I said is an "industrial" grade range extender.. Mine needs to have at least 4 ethernet ports on it. I am finding that all the ones I search for with the attribute "outdoor" are excellent at what they do but they are in weather-proof housings and only have power input. Mine will be in the shed protected from rain/snow but not cold/damp..

 

Mine needs a physical connection to my Control-by-Web relay for the roof and to my IP controlled powerbars. Alas, these devices are not wireless.

 

Any new thoughts based on this clarification?

 

Stuart

 

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:49 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hi Stuart,

There may be other more modern offers, but I have been quite pleased with my HAWKING model “HOWABN1” wireless N-Type comms, universal Hi Gain Repeater... It has huge “banana thick” perpendicular antenna sticks, and its “Cow Bell” rugged enclosure is suitable for your conditions. This product is meant as a universal repeater between buildings, and outdoor car lots.

Got mine over a decade ago, at Tiger Direct in GTA, before they downsized to the web.
It is limited to N-type 300 mbps comms – but that gives it more range.

Joe Z.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 

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Re: Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

Ron Kramer
 

my dome is 300ft out front of the house. I had some off and on issues with a netgear extender.  I recently saw they had a MESH extender that will work with any router. I install it in the dome and so far not a hiccup.  I had been considering a 2 unit mesh setup which ran around 300+.   This one appeared as a promo in my email and said it worked with any router so it's only one unit. (one box). Cost - I think was around 180.   nighthawk? mesh?  I don't recall.  Let me check my amazon order listing.

brb...
 


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Greg, my pals are dialing in remotely. I want it to be totally hands off for me where possible. Some nights the only clue I have that they're active is when I'm standing on my deck and the dome suddenly starts to open. So one way or another they need to access their computer here, their powerbar and the dome control. And as I said, the power bar and the dome control has to have a physical connection. They're assigned their own IP addresses so I don't think I can connect them to a computer where they ride piggyback.

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:14 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Stuart, not sure what your exactly doing but it sounds complicated. Would multiple headless computers help? I actually use 3 for various remote tasks.

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:28 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Greg, thanks! This IS a good idea. My challenge alas is that I have my two rigs in one observatory and an underground conduit to a second observatory where two pals of mine have their rigs. They are connecting their IP controlled powerbars to the extender in my observatory. In addition, the Control-by-Web relay that opens/closes the dome needs a hard connection to the internet access point. All this comes into a hub in the dome then the single cable over to my shed. So, I have the one cable entering my shed from the dome they're in, then in my shed I have the same situation ... two IP controlled powerbars and the shed roof control-by-web rely. All need hard connections to the single access point.

 

When it was just me with the one set-up I was doing something much more like you but now things are "complicated"..

 

Stuart

 

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Stuart, may I suggest something totally different? I mount a headless computer inside a box on my scope's pier along with all the electronics needed. This keeps all the cables very short (especially those nasty USB cables). I then control that computer (which runs all the software taking images and controlling the scope and other hardware) from inside my house through TeamViewer. I've been doing this for 5 or 6 years without any problems both winter and summer. I did have a single ethernet cable running from the box to the house but have found it unnecessary. Not sure what problem your trying to solve, so this may not help but just in case...

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 4:35 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?

 

 

Hi again. Joe's suggestion was a good one. What I may in fact need vs.. what I said is an "industrial" grade range extender.. Mine needs to have at least 4 ethernet ports on it. I am finding that all the ones I search for with the attribute "outdoor" are excellent at what they do but they are in weather-proof housings and only have power input. Mine will be in the shed protected from rain/snow but not cold/damp..

 

Mine needs a physical connection to my Control-by-Web relay for the roof and to my IP controlled powerbars. Alas, these devices are not wireless.

 

Any new thoughts based on this clarification?

 

Stuart

 

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:49 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hi Stuart,

There may be other more modern offers, but I have been quite pleased with my HAWKING model “HOWABN1” wireless N-Type comms, universal Hi Gain Repeater... It has huge “banana thick” perpendicular antenna sticks, and its “Cow Bell” rugged enclosure is suitable for your conditions. This product is meant as a universal repeater between buildings, and outdoor car lots.

Got mine over a decade ago, at Tiger Direct in GTA, before they downsized to the web.
It is limited to N-type 300 mbps comms – but that gives it more range.

Joe Z.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 

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Re: [ap-ug] Re: Can you guys be of some help on my FF

Roland Christen
 

Hello Tony,

The issue with the paint has been fixed for your field flattener, it will not recur. There is no such problem with any of our scopes that we have ever built. I have also cleaned the outer surfaces of dew spots that the previous owner left on the glass. We will send it out to you early next week. If you need further info, just call George here at the office.

Roland Christen
Astro-Physics Inc.



-----Original Message-----
From: Harley Davidson astrocnc@... [ap-ug]
To: ap-gto ; ap-ug ; George Whitney (AstroPhysics) ; Marj Christen
Sent: Sat, Mar 31, 2018 3:07 pm
Subject: [ap-ug] Re: [ap-gto] Can you guys be of some help on my FF



Roland

For some reason I never can receive your emails on my end. They just don't show up. Not sure why???

My friend just alerted me that you answered an issue I had with my 175 FF. I did not get the email so I was not aware you answered. Here is a copy of your answer to me from 03-24-18:

Sorry to answer so late. That is not fingerprints, it is actually a problem with the flat black paint on the inside of the barrel. We have changed the type of paint to prevent this. You will have to send the flattener back and I will clean it off for you.

Rolando

I did not call your office and decided to wait for a response. Thought they would call me personally. Now that I see you told me to send it back raises an issue. I sent the FF back on Friday, 03-16-2018. I just checked and see that AP received my FF on Monday the 19th as per USPS Tracking:

March 19, 2018 at 2:34 pm
Delivered, Front Desk/Reception
MACHESNEY PARK, IL 61115

Since you responded to my on the 24th can I assume you just did not know AP received it? I put RA4073 on the box and inside with my paperwork.

Questions Roland:
1---Does the FF need to be stripped and repainted internally to get rid of the bad paint to alleviate this problem in the future?
2---If it does not get repainted will this issue come back? What would stop it from returning down the road?
3---Does my 175 serial number 28 have this same paint internally?
4---Will my 175 have this issue?
5---What in the paint caused the issue? Outgassing?

Roland, if you could, please use Marj's email address to respond so I get you response on my end. I am in no hurry so take your time in fixing this for me.

Again, I thank you for your time and expertise in this matter.

tony


On 3/14/2018 8:18 PM, Harley Davidson astrocnc@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
I am sending George this link for his opinion but also thought some of
you may be of help.

"Astro Physics 175 refractor Field Flattener possible issue"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD5ZSJMN0e8

This is a field flattener for my 175 f/8 refractor. The FF has never
been used and has been in my home. In fact I never even put it on my
scope yet to see how it fits. I got it out as I want to start using it.
It appears to be on the very top of the glass and could be wiped right
off but don't want to do something I shouldn't. Actually looks like
finger print smudges???

Any thoughts? Thanks for your help.

tony