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Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

D Sidote <dsidote@...>
 

Peter,

Where did you get that short serial to USB cable for your focus controller?

Dave

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:24 AM, pnagy@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

George,

If Mike's goal is to connect USB-to-Serial adapter directly to serial port of CPX box, he will have difficulty doing that with your adapter, that's all. I was trying to make sure Mike is aware of this. I was not putting off any brands including yours. He will need to get a 9-pin serial cable extension to connect in between your adapter and CPX box for this to work. I know new A-P mounts come with 15 feet serial cable extension but it may be too long for him as well for me. Pretty much most, if not all, FTDI chipped USB-to-Serial adapters use the same exact drivers directly from FTDI.

Here is how I connect my USB-to-Serial adapter to CP3 box at:

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-tvFFhk3/A

Click on "right arrow" at right side to see more pictures. This one uses one foot long cable and connects directly to CP3 box and USB hub. Yes, this adapter contains FTDI chip.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

Peter,

 

One of the big advantages of using the USB to serial adapter that we sell is that it was designed by the same people who write the FTDI software.  It was originally designed by them so that they could develop their software specifically for it…to use it in their laboratory and for testing.  Why put off brand parts on a Rolls Royce?

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:47 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike



Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

George
 

Peter,

 

We ship a 15 foot serial cable with every mount.   Serial cables are available from one foot to a hundred feet…it is only a matter of choosing one to fit your custom situation.   See:

https://www.cablewholesale.com/products/serial-modem-cable/db9-serial-cables.php

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:24 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

George,

If Mike's goal is to connect USB-to-Serial adapter directly to serial port of CPX box, he will have difficulty doing that with your adapter, that's all. I was trying to make sure Mike is aware of this. I was not putting off any brands including yours. He will need to get a 9-pin serial cable extension to connect in between your adapter and CPX box for this to work. I know new A-P mounts come with 15 feet serial cable extension but it may be too long for him as well for me. Pretty much most, if not all, FTDI chipped USB-to-Serial adapters use the same exact drivers directly from FTDI.

Here is how I connect my USB-to-Serial adapter to CP3 box at:

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-tvFFhk3/A

Click on "right arrow" at right side to see more pictures. This one uses one foot long cable and connects directly to CP3 box and USB hub. Yes, this adapter contains FTDI chip.

Peter

 

---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

Peter,

 

One of the big advantages of using the USB to serial adapter that we sell is that it was designed by the same people who write the FTDI software.  It was originally designed by them so that they could develop their software specifically for it…to use it in their laboratory and for testing.  Why put off brand parts on a Rolls Royce?

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:47 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

George
 

Joe,

 

You need to be able to reach the mount with the cable.   Alternatively, what I have done at times is to simply use a one foot serial cable.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:05 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

George,

 

    I would suggest that AP package a proper, compatible,  “gender changer” with their FTDI serial/USB package.

 

    Someone will likely need it to match even a “spare test cable” into their CPx controller. Save everybody the hassle of sourcing this tiny inexpensive, (soon to be rare part), along with the shipping charges from an electronics store when ordering just one, and panic calls to AP.

 

    In fact, from your comment about FTDI ...needing one themselves ...  to do their software testing, FTDI should have done this for THEIR user shipments ... in the first place. Its not as though adding the few extra pennies of expense for it, would endanger FTDI’s competitive position – there aren’t any.

 

Joe Z.


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

topboxman
 

George,

If Mike's goal is to connect USB-to-Serial adapter directly to serial port of CPX box, he will have difficulty doing that with your adapter, that's all. I was trying to make sure Mike is aware of this. I was not putting off any brands including yours. He will need to get a 9-pin serial cable extension to connect in between your adapter and CPX box for this to work. I know new A-P mounts come with 15 feet serial cable extension but it may be too long for him as well for me. Pretty much most, if not all, FTDI chipped USB-to-Serial adapters use the same exact drivers directly from FTDI.

Here is how I connect my USB-to-Serial adapter to CP3 box at:

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-tvFFhk3/A

Click on "right arrow" at right side to see more pictures. This one uses one foot long cable and connects directly to CP3 box and USB hub. Yes, this adapter contains FTDI chip.

Peter

---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

Peter,

 

One of the big advantages of using the USB to serial adapter that we sell is that it was designed by the same people who write the FTDI software.  It was originally designed by them so that they could develop their software specifically for it…to use it in their laboratory and for testing.  Why put off brand parts on a Rolls Royce?

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:47 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

topboxman
 

If Mike's goal is to connect USB-to-Serial adapter directly to serial port of CPX box, he will have difficulty doing that with your adapter, that's all. I was trying to make sure Mike is aware of this. I was not putting off any brands including yours. He will need to get a 9-pin serial cable extension for this to work. I know new A-P mounts come with 15 feet serial cable extension but it may be too long for him as well for me.

Here is how I connect my USB-to-Serial adapter to CP3 box at:

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-tvFFhk3/A

Click on "right arrow" at right side to see more pictures. This one uses one foot long cable and connects directly to CP3 box and USB hub. Yes, this adapter contains FTDI chip.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

Peter,

 

One of the big advantages of using the USB to serial adapter that we sell is that it was designed by the same people who write the FTDI software.  It was originally designed by them so that they could develop their software specifically for it…to use it in their laboratory and for testing.  Why put off brand parts on a Rolls Royce?

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:47 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

topboxman
 

If Mike's goal is to connect USB-to-Serial adapter directly to serial port of CPX box, he will have difficulty doing that with your adapter, that's all. I was trying to make sure Mike is aware of this. I was not putting off any brands including yours. He will need to get a 9-pin serial cable extension for this to work. I know new A-P mounts come with 15 feet serial cable extension but it may be too long for him as well for me.

Here is how I connect my USB-to-Serial adapter to CP3 box at:

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-tvFFhk3/A

Click on "right arrow" at right side to see more pictures. This one uses one foot long cable and connects directly to CP3 box and USB hub. Yes, this adapter contains FTDI chip.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

Peter,

 

One of the big advantages of using the USB to serial adapter that we sell is that it was designed by the same people who write the FTDI software.  It was originally designed by them so that they could develop their software specifically for it…to use it in their laboratory and for testing.  Why put off brand parts on a Rolls Royce?

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:47 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

Joe Zeglinski
 

George,
 
    I would suggest that AP package a proper, compatible,  “gender changer” with their FTDI serial/USB package.
 
    Someone will likely need it to match even a “spare test cable” into their CPx controller. Save everybody the hassle of sourcing this tiny inexpensive, (soon to be rare part), along with the shipping charges from an electronics store when ordering just one, and panic calls to AP.
 
    In fact, from your comment about FTDI ...needing one themselves ...  to do their software testing, FTDI should have done this for THEIR user shipments ... in the first place. Its not as though adding the few extra pennies of expense for it, would endanger FTDI’s competitive position – there aren’t any.
 
Joe Z.


Re: Need help with initial setup of APCC

Robert Kimball
 

Ray,

I was hoping you would reply.  I have read your documentation closely, I had no issues installing the software and no problems getting the software to control my Mach 1 mount.  I did have problems understanding the virtual ports.  (I'm sure as a software developer virtual ports seem trivial, but as a 73 year old user, I have almost no idea what they are or do.)

I1)  I am running APCC, Sequence Generator Pro, and PHD2.  I suspect this is a fairly common setup.  It is unclear to me how many virtual ports I need.  Should APCC be connected via a virtual port or directly?  Do I need one virtual port for SGP and virtual one port for PHD2?   


(2)  Here is the specific problem I had.  I started with my telescope parked in location 3.  In Sequence Generator Pro I had a sequence to slew to Capella, plate solve, then take a 5 second image.  SGP was connected to ASCOM via an APCC virtual port. PHD2 was also connected via a virtual port and seemed to be working perfectly.  I started the sequence and the telescope slewed to Capella. SGP start to do its plate solve, but it failed.   I notice that SGP was not showing the RA and Dec. for Capella in the "Telescope" object..  The plate solver also had the wrong RA and Dec,  Capella was in the center of the plate solve image.


I will experiment some more, 

Bob


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

George
 

Peter,

 

One of the big advantages of using the USB to serial adapter that we sell is that it was designed by the same people who write the FTDI software.  It was originally designed by them so that they could develop their software specifically for it…to use it in their laboratory and for testing.  Why put off brand parts on a Rolls Royce?

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 4:47 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Need help with initial setup of APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Bob,

There is a "Getting Started" section in the help file.

In addition, when APCC is running , you can press the F1 key to bring up help, or click one of the topic-specific question mark buttons at the upper right corner of each group box in APCC. There is also a PDF accessible through the Windows start menu in the group where APCC is located.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 8:58 PM
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Subject: [ap-gto] Need help with initial setup of APCC



What the best way to get help regarding APCC?




Bob


The Sky error mesage

Suresh Mohan
 

Friends,
any idea why im getting this error message with ASCOM ? it was connecting
perfectly last year. I have the latest updates now
Suresh


Need help with initial setup of APCC

Robert Kimball
 

What the best way to get help regarding APCC?


Bob


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

topboxman
 

If you are talking about attaching this particular gender changer in between serial port of CPX box and Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter, it won't work. Please note the hex nuts at both sides of the gender changer and they will collide with hex nuts of serial connector of CPX box and Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter and will never make electrical connections. Please take closer look at the hex nuts and see why it won't work.

The USB-to-Serial adapter needs to have male thumbscrews to screw into the hex nuts of serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples FTDI chipped USB-to-Serial adapters that will work directly with CPX boxes.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

Please note the male thumbscrews of above USB-to-Serial adapters.

Peter


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 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

Worsel
 

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 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

Yves Laroche
 

Mike needs extension serial cable with male connectors on both ends.  I think AP sell it.

Regards,
Yves

Le 2018-01-28 5:47 PM, "pnagy@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> a écrit :
 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter



---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike



Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

topboxman
 

You can see pictures of my setup with CP3 box at:

https://peternagy.smugmug.com/Telescopes/Current-Equipment/i-tvFFhk3/A

Click on "right arrow" at right to see more pictures. My USB-to-Serial adapter uses 1 foot cable and it's short enough to reach to USB hub.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., <pnagy@...> wrote :

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

topboxman
 

I think Mike wants to connect the USB-to-Serial adapter directly to the serial port of CPX box. The problem with Astro-Physics USB-to-Serial adapter is it will not be able to connect directly to the serial port of CPX box because both connectors in adapter and serial port of CPX use same gender (female hex screws). What Mike is looking for is male thumbscrews on USB-to-Serial adapter to not only connect but lock to serial port of CPX box. Here are the samples USB-to-Serial adapters that will connect to serial port of CPX box:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0075SGLRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Serial-Adapter-Chipset-CB-FTDI/dp/B006AA04K0/ref=sr_1_14?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-14&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

https://www.amazon.com/Serial-Adapter-Chipset-Supports-Windows/dp/B017D51ZRQ/ref=sr_1_22?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1517066936&sr=1-22&keywords=ftdi+usb+to+serial

All of the above samples use FTDI chip sets.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., <george@...> wrote :

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

Suresh Mohan
 

Mike get a good usbto serial unit like from keyspan if not buy the one that AP sells 
Suresh 


On 27-Jan-2018, at 6:58 PM, wildwood7711@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike


Re: meridian flips, limits etc WITH SGP?

Ron Kramer
 

I turned off all medirian info and control in SGP.  turned off "send to SGP in APCC". 
Now  APCC/mount should handle it all? 

Can someone (a few of you) post a screen shot of your meridan limit edits?  I know mine will be differenent, but it would
help me see ABOUT where I should me and I can test and edit from there.

I see as I aim higher toward the zenith, that's when the camera end of the scope gets into trouble around the tripod. 
As I point lower near the horizon, there really isn't any such danger.  

Once I DRAW the yellow shape. It will flip as it enters into this defined area? or once it leaves on the opposite side of the meridian?
If I don't draw anything, it WILL? flip at the meridian line as defined?  I want to know how to run some tracking TESTS.




On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 10:50 AM, Matthew Hughes matthughes77@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Rolando and Ray,


Ok, I’m eating humble pie here. Worked like a treat. You guys are legends. Thanks. 😬

Regards,

Matt

On 25 Jan 2018, at 14:06, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

> Oh ok Rolando,
> The other night I set a minus meridian time then when I connected the Mount via
> driver appc SGP said my Mount didn’t allow it. I’ll take a screen shot and send it in.
> Either way it doesn’t work.

That's because SGPro probably doesn't realize that APCC will slew the mount without SGP having to do a pier flip via the ASCOM driver. If you setup the West side Meridian limits in APCC it will flip without SGPro having to do anything. Depending on how it is coded you may need to uncheck the "Send limit to SGPro" in APCC so you won't confuse SGPro.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

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> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 4:41 PM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] meridian flips, limits etc WITH SGP?
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> Oh ok Rolando,
> The other night I set a minus meridian time then when I connected the Mount via
> driver appc SGP said my Mount didn’t allow it. I’ll take a screen shot and send it in.
> Either way it doesn’t work.
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> Matt Hughes
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> On 25 Jan 2018, at 09:39, chris1011@... [ap-gto] > gto@...> wrote:
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> SGP allows negative meridian flips but APCC and the driver doesn’t.
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> Actually SGP does not allow negative meridian flips, but APCC and the
> driver both do allow it. Our mounts have always allowed negative meridian flips
> from the very beginning.
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> Rolando
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> From: Matthew Hughes matthughes77@... [ap-gto] > gto@...>
> To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 24, 2018 5:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] meridian flips, limits etc WITH SGP?
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> Hi,
> I started the thread on this a few weeks back. Basically no.
> I have tried every combination. SGP allows negative meridian flips but
> APCC and the driver doesn’t. When I set a negative number on the meridian flip
> SGP accepts it until you connect your mount then has a message saying that the
> AP mount does not support east side CW up to start the process.
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> On 25 Jan 2018, at 08:43, ronkramer1957@...
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> information. I really like the idea of starting weights up on the east side to not flip
> and end up weights down in the west. All makes since but when checking the
> settings in APCC there was a check box for SGP. And I received warnings about
> not checking this if I use SGP.
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> So - will my mount and APCC take advantage of a east - weights up
> sequence start? Or no? it's left to SGP? (which did excellent flips with my previous
> mount) Not seen it happen with the mach1 yet.
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Re: Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

George
 

I strong recommend our FTDI adapter that comes right from FTDI:

http://www.astro-physics.com/products/accessories/software/Serial_USB/serialusb.htm#usb1pftdi

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:29 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Last Step after replacing L chip to V chip

 

 

 Need to update my Keypad from 4.12 to 4.19, I have a straight thru serial cable but my computer has no serial ports. I have read that I need a FTD1 chip USB to serial cable. The CP3 GTO control panel has female RS232. I can't find a USB cable of this sort that will have a male RS232. I have tried looking online and Astro-Physics website, all I find are adapters that have to have a  female end. Anyone have a link to where I can find one. Thanks, Mike