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Re: Using APCC with Astrotortilla for plate solving with Mach1

Ron Kramer
 

It's a pain to enter the RA and DEC of targets in SGP.  I just discovered that worldwide telescope client is ascom compliant and will control my scope with point n click! 



On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Joseph Beyer jcbeyer@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Thanks for the reminder.  I've seen this before.  Looks pretty straight forward.  Joe



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If you're going to use SGP starts here, probably one of the best starting manuals:


The Mach1 and SGP work amazingly well together, they seem made for each other.




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Replaced my cp3 chip question

wildwood7711@...
 

Hi , I replaced my  AP1200 Gto (2006 ) cp3 unit from a L chip to a V chip. The instructions that came with the chip state to do a full Star Sync on a known star . My old key pad manual says a Star Sync requires a Polar Alignment. Question: Do I need to be perfectly polar aligned to update this revised cp3 unit? Any help is appreciated. I expect clear decent weather in Missouri to do this Wednesday and Thursday of this week. -  Thanks,Mike


Re: Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?

Keith Egger
 

Thanks for the very helpful suggestions all. Sounds like setting a defined Alt/Az position is the way to go! 
...Keith


Re: Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?

Geof Lewis
 

I agree and is exactly what I use to park my mount square to a wall mounted light box to take flats. My observatory sits square to my garden boundary line which is not on EW/NS axes, so the predefined park positions don’t work well for me. I don’t have APCC, so I just use the APV2 driver Alt Az park option, which is parked CW up, so other than a warning for that I have no problem using it as my custom park position.
Regards,

Geof

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From: Joel Short buckeyestargazer@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?
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You can't exactly create a "user defined park position" in the ASCOM driver, but you can tell it to park at any Alt/Az and then unpark from that same location on subsequent nights.  The pretty much functions as a user defined park position.  
From the ASCOM driver manual:
Set an Alt/Az Park Location
1) Slew to the desired park location via whatever means you want.
2) Click "Set Alt/Az Park Position".
3) Set the "Park To" combo box to "Alt/Az".

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:34 AM, keitholsen@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I don't think the ASCOM AP driver has the ability to create a user defined park position but in APCC there is a feature that allows this. 

Keith

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Re: Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?

Joel Short
 

You can't exactly create a "user defined park position" in the ASCOM driver, but you can tell it to park at any Alt/Az and then unpark from that same location on subsequent nights.  The pretty much functions as a user defined park position.  
From the ASCOM driver manual:
Set an Alt/Az Park Location
1) Slew to the desired park location via whatever means you want.
2) Click "Set Alt/Az Park Position".
3) Set the "Park To" combo box to "Alt/Az".

On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:34 AM, keitholsen@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I don't think the ASCOM AP driver has the ability to create a user defined park position but in APCC there is a feature that allows this. 

Keith

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Re: Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?

Keith Olsen
 

I don't think the ASCOM AP driver has the ability to create a user defined park position but in APCC there is a feature that allows this. 

Keith


Re: Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?

Joel Short
 

To my knowledge there is no "park 0", but I only use the ASCOM driver.  When you're done for the night slew your telescope to where you want it and choose Park to Current Position.  When you re-initialize another night choose Unpark from Last Parked.  You can also define an alt/az position to park to/from.
joel


Re: Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?

Matthew Hughes
 

Hi Keith,

What I do is manually slew (via APCC or driver, I don’t have hand controller). I then select park in present position. I then place my panel on there and forget it as I know it won’t move. Hope that helps. I haven’t tried to do a custom position. That might work.

Regards,

Matt

On 22 Jan 2018, at 16:10, eggerk@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

I want to part my mount so that the OTAs are pointing 90 degrees up so that I can balance my iPad on my refractors to take flats. If I put the OTAs at the 90 degree position and select Park 0, will that position persist as a custom park position? If not, is there another way to set a custom park position for flats? 

...Keith


Is Park 0 on Mach1GTO persistent?

Keith Egger
 

I want to part my mount so that the OTAs are pointing 90 degrees up so that I can balance my iPad on my refractors to take flats. If I put the OTAs at the 90 degree position and select Park 0, will that position persist as a custom park position? If not, is there another way to set a custom park position for flats? 

...Keith


Re: Trouble sync'g MaxDome II Controller to APCC

Ray Gralak
 

I think I may have resolved my Dome Control Scope position sync issue. I
uninstalled and re-installed the latest version of the AP ASCOM V2 driver and
APCC this seems to have fix the issue. Now when I slew the mount via APCC to a
given Alt/Az position this data is getting correctly passed to the ASCOM Dome
Control Panel. I also had to install the ASCOM FixDCOM patch available on the
ascom-standards.org site. Otherwise APCC would not communicate with the V2
driver.
The driver doesn't use COM interop to communicate with APCC. And neither the AP V2 driver nor APCC use DCOM. In fact, I've tested the driver and APCC with the "bad" Windows 10 update and they worked fine with several ASCOM client applications.

However, it could be the DCOM fix was needed to be done to the Dome driver or some other component that needs to connect to the AP V2 driver.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


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I think I may have resolved my Dome Control Scope position sync issue. I
uninstalled and re-installed the latest version of the AP ASCOM V2 driver and
APCC this seems to have fix the issue. Now when I slew the mount via APCC to a
given Alt/Az position this data is getting correctly passed to the ASCOM Dome
Control Panel. I also had to install the ASCOM FixDCOM patch available on the
ascom-standards.org site. Otherwise APCC would not communicate with the V2
driver.


More testing is required to confirm, but at least for the moment this issue seems to
be fixed. Now if I can just get it to work with SGP I will be all set...


Andrew J


Re: Trouble sync'g MaxDome II Controller to APCC

Andrew Jones
 

I think I may have resolved my Dome Control Scope position sync issue. I uninstalled and re-installed the latest version of the AP ASCOM V2 driver and APCC this seems to have fix the issue. Now when I slew the mount via APCC to a given Alt/Az position this data is getting correctly passed to the ASCOM Dome Control Panel. I also had to install the ASCOM FixDCOM patch available on the ascom-standards.org site. Otherwise APCC would not communicate with the V2 driver. 

More testing is required to confirm, but at least for the moment this issue seems to be fixed. Now if I can just get it to work with SGP I will be all set... 

Andrew J


Re: Trouble sync'g MaxDome II Controller to APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Andrew,

So one more interesting tidbit... After some additional trial and error testing I
noticed that if Disconnect and then Re-Connect in the ASCOM Dome Control
Panel without changing anything else it does pick up the correct RA/DEC and
Alt/Az position as reported by APCC. However, as soon as I move the scope to a
different position, say 45 Alt / 270 Az using the APCC GoTo screen, then the
ASCOM Dome Control Panel gets out of sync again. So it appears the issues is
that for some reason the Dome Control is not keeping in sync with APCC unless I
Disconnect and Re-Connect the Dome Control Panel. Odd.
I think that the dome and scope will usually have different coordinates because of the geometry of the telescope and pier. In any case this seems like an issue with the ASCOM Dome controller, not APCC. Have you tried contacting Diffraction Limited?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


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Re: Trouble sync'g MaxDome II Controller to APCC

Andrew Jones
 

So one more interesting tidbit... After some additional trial and error testing I noticed that if Disconnect and then Re-Connect in the ASCOM Dome Control Panel without changing anything else it does pick up the correct RA/DEC and Alt/Az position as reported by APCC. However, as soon as I move the scope to a different position, say 45 Alt / 270 Az using the APCC GoTo screen, then the ASCOM Dome Control Panel gets out of sync again. So it appears the issues is that for some reason the Dome Control is not keeping in sync with APCC unless I Disconnect  and Re-Connect the Dome Control Panel. Odd.


Trouble sync'g MaxDome II Controller to APCC

Andrew Jones
 

I am hoping someone here can help me out. I have a GTO Mach I mount that I have installed in an 8' Explora-Dome. I am using the Diffraction Limited MaxDome II Control boards for dome rotation and shutter control. I am having a heck of time trying to get the dome to sync to them mount. 


My first issue actually has nothing to do with the dome, but with the ASCOM Dome Control Panel and the reported Scope Position. I have uploaded a screen shot to the Andrew_J folder in Files section. If you view the screen shot you will notice there is a huge difference between where APCC reports the scope position (which is correct) vs. what the ASCOM Dome Control Panel is reporting the Scope position. Both the Alt and Az are different by a significant amount. To setup the scope in the ASCOM Dome Control Panel I have simply selected the AstroPhysics GTO V2 Mount in the Select Scope setup. The Setup Scope button brings up the standard Astro-Physics GTO Mount ASCOM V2 Telescope Driver - v5.09.09 screen with my normal settings that I have used with many other programs with no issues. 


Does anyone here happen to know what would causes the Scope position to be incorrectly reported in the ASCOM Dome Control vs. APCC? Until I can get the ASCOM Dome Control to report the correct scope position I don't think have much hope of getting the dome to sync to the mount. Any knowledgeable guidance would be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if you need any additional info or screen shots.


Thanks in advance.


Clear Skies,

Andrew J


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Re: Grease Kit Received

Dan Simpson
 

It's listed below

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 7:21 AM, MCDERMOTT MICHAEL wildwood7711@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Dan, What is your e-mail address?


On Saturday, January 20, 2018 9:31 PM, "Dan Simpson dbs2144@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> wrote:


 
Hi Bryan
Thanks, I've seen this video, and it's very informative (comforting?), but it does not show how the two motor assemblies are actually removed from the mount. If its just unthreading the two or three screws securing the motor assemblies that would be great but in the first post on this thread there was this comment: "Unscrew shoulder bolts that hold the spur gears so that the gears may be removed". "Do not try and remove the worm's spur gear or motor spur gear." Question do both slotted bolts get removed? ".  I'm not clear on what this is referring to and I want to just be sure that I'm not missing anything when I take things apart.
Take Care,
Dan



On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 6:31 PM, bryancashion@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
A-P posted this link to a video a while back


Bryan



---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

I have a related question regarding regreasing my AP1200. I ordered and have received the AP regrease kit. However, I did not receive any written instructions. Is there a set of instructions available for this procedure?
Thanks
Dan






Re: Grease Kit Received

MCDERMOTT MICHAEL <wildwood7711@...>
 

Hi Dan, What is your e-mail address?


On Saturday, January 20, 2018 9:31 PM, "Dan Simpson dbs2144@... [ap-gto]" wrote:


 
Hi Bryan
Thanks, I've seen this video, and it's very informative (comforting?), but it does not show how the two motor assemblies are actually removed from the mount. If its just unthreading the two or three screws securing the motor assemblies that would be great but in the first post on this thread there was this comment: "Unscrew shoulder bolts that hold the spur gears so that the gears may be removed". "Do not try and remove the worm's spur gear or motor spur gear." Question do both slotted bolts get removed? ".  I'm not clear on what this is referring to and I want to just be sure that I'm not missing anything when I take things apart.
Take Care,
Dan



On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 6:31 PM, bryancashion@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
A-P posted this link to a video a while back


Bryan



---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

I have a related question regarding regreasing my AP1200. I ordered and have received the AP regrease kit. However, I did not receive any written instructions. Is there a set of instructions available for this procedure?
Thanks
Dan





Re: Grease Kit Received

Dan Simpson
 

Hi Bryan
Thanks, I've seen this video, and it's very informative (comforting?), but it does not show how the two motor assemblies are actually removed from the mount. If its just unthreading the two or three screws securing the motor assemblies that would be great but in the first post on this thread there was this comment: "Unscrew shoulder bolts that hold the spur gears so that the gears may be removed". "Do not try and remove the worm's spur gear or motor spur gear." Question do both slotted bolts get removed? ".  I'm not clear on what this is referring to and I want to just be sure that I'm not missing anything when I take things apart.
Take Care,
Dan

On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 6:31 PM, bryancashion@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

A-P posted this link to a video a while back



Bryan



---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

I have a related question regarding regreasing my AP1200. I ordered and have received the AP regrease kit. However, I did not receive any written instructions. Is there a set of instructions available for this procedure?
Thanks
Dan