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Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Robert Berta
 

That worked for me too.


Re: Best Choice of Guiding Options?

Robert Berta
 

Roland,
Wondering if an other option is to put the guide star very slightly out of focus so instead of the random light "streaks" causing errors, the star would be "rounded" by knocking off the star points and make it easy to average a centroid.  

Luckily (knock on wood)  I get excellent guiding and afraid to experiment. The old "Why fix it if it works" ;-) 

Happy new year to all at AP also! 


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Steve Reilly
 

Or post them in the files section….

 

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 3:34 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

 

 

Ron

 

Yahoo strips images out of group posts.

 

You will need to add to the Photos section (create your own album)

 

Bryan



---In ap-gto@..., <ronkramer1957@...> wrote :

I see my photo attachments in email? are they in my group posts?


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Worsel
 

Ron

Yahoo strips images out of group posts.

You will need to add to the Photos section (create your own album)

Bryan


---In ap-gto@..., <ronkramer1957@...> wrote :

I see my photo attachments in email? are they in my group posts?


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

I see my photo attachments in email? are they in my group posts?

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:

connecting to access point mode - works instantly.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:

UPDATE: I posted that over the past several days (I could not connect to
the menu system via the IP of CP4).
I mentioned that doing a "FIND GTOCP4 in APCC revealed nothing).

I just checked APCC "find" again and while it doesn't find a wifi - it at
least NOW shows the lan. (never before).
No WIFI - likely since It won't connect to any network.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:

Latest. VCP4-P01-10

I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
can join.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



Which firmware are you using?


------------------------------
*From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of
Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
*To:* ap-gto@...
*Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?



I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond.
It's done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will
not repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
trying since it checked out.

The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a
network. It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
(DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it... I
will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..

frustrating.





On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



I hope this helps:

Determine your iP Address

Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
directly to the “download using a browser” section. for those who have not
determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.

first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable
to the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network
switch (port) on the other end.

iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
established..

We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
determine your ip address..

● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
number, and are found by using the following formula:

-

○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
-

○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it
from the serial number. the difference is your second value.
-

○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
-

635/256 = 2.4804...
-

truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders”
from grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
-

2*256 = 512.
-

635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from
above)
-

ip = 169.254.2.123





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

I attached screen captures of my setup. ??? they don't appear ?  I'm attaching in email responses? 


On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 2:01 PM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...> wrote:
Of course I have had this - all working. It's been fine for months.  Nothing really changed it just dropped off the network and disappears for a few days. (has happened in the past in warmer weather) as well.


On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...> wrote:
Hi Howard. I have it set as client, but can't log into the client.  It says pw is incorrect. (it's not).  Does cold (extreme?) affect wifi?  I ask this because I also have a  digital Loggers web power switch.  I'm  finding that it's been sluggish trying to log into it since this extreme cold spell hit. 
Though it is working... it takes a long time to load.  On the other hand, we've had this (pw rejected) problem before when you helped me last time.  Wondering if the cold is making the problem worse. 

I did change it to access point (and it worked and connected quickly). as someone suggested they switched back and forth to solve the problem they had. It's not helped my situation. 

I don't mind the mount connected to the NUC via usb or lan - what I also want is wifi on the network so I can use sky safari 6 pro to point and goto targets. 



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:47 PM, howard@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ron,

Contact me at my work e-mail -  howard at astro-physics dot com and we can try to set up a time where I can remote in to your computer with TeamViewer.  My guess is that you have your WiFi set up as an access point instead of as a client. 

Since you can see the LAN, use it to get onto the GTOCP4's web page.  From there, you can see the status and settings regarding the WiFi. 





Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

Of course I have had this - all working. It's been fine for months.  Nothing really changed it just dropped off the network and disappears for a few days. (has happened in the past in warmer weather) as well.


On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...> wrote:
Hi Howard. I have it set as client, but can't log into the client.  It says pw is incorrect. (it's not).  Does cold (extreme?) affect wifi?  I ask this because I also have a  digital Loggers web power switch.  I'm  finding that it's been sluggish trying to log into it since this extreme cold spell hit. 
Though it is working... it takes a long time to load.  On the other hand, we've had this (pw rejected) problem before when you helped me last time.  Wondering if the cold is making the problem worse. 

I did change it to access point (and it worked and connected quickly). as someone suggested they switched back and forth to solve the problem they had. It's not helped my situation. 

I don't mind the mount connected to the NUC via usb or lan - what I also want is wifi on the network so I can use sky safari 6 pro to point and goto targets. 



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:47 PM, howard@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ron,

Contact me at my work e-mail -  howard at astro-physics dot com and we can try to set up a time where I can remote in to your computer with TeamViewer.  My guess is that you have your WiFi set up as an access point instead of as a client. 

Since you can see the LAN, use it to get onto the GTOCP4's web page.  From there, you can see the status and settings regarding the WiFi. 




Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

Hi Howard. I have it set as client, but can't log into the client.  It says pw is incorrect. (it's not).  Does cold (extreme?) affect wifi?  I ask this because I also have a  digital Loggers web power switch.  I'm  finding that it's been sluggish trying to log into it since this extreme cold spell hit. 
Though it is working... it takes a long time to load.  On the other hand, we've had this (pw rejected) problem before when you helped me last time.  Wondering if the cold is making the problem worse. 

I did change it to access point (and it worked and connected quickly). as someone suggested they switched back and forth to solve the problem they had. It's not helped my situation. 

I don't mind the mount connected to the NUC via usb or lan - what I also want is wifi on the network so I can use sky safari 6 pro to point and goto targets. 



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:47 PM, howard@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Ron,

Contact me at my work e-mail -  howard at astro-physics dot com and we can try to set up a time where I can remote in to your computer with TeamViewer.  My guess is that you have your WiFi set up as an access point instead of as a client. 

Since you can see the LAN, use it to get onto the GTOCP4's web page.  From there, you can see the status and settings regarding the WiFi. 



Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

thanks for sharing. For portable. Make sure you always plug all usb plugs into the exact same ports. (I lable mine with tape and marker). 

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:24 PM, dfva@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I too was having problems connecting the mount via apcc and the lan to a nuc.  I have a portable setup and would turn both the nuc and mount off every day.  I found if I turned the mount on before the nuc, apcc would not find the mount.  If I turned the nuc on first, then apcc would find the mount.  Your situation seems more complicated, but I thought I would pass this on



Re: test

Bill Long
 

Success!




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Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 1:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] test
 
 

 

 

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Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

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Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Joel Short
 

I'm late to the party and this may or may not be helpful. I have had some issues with an NUC and wifi connections. What I found was that updating the NUC network drivers actually resulted in far worse network problems. So what I did was clean installed windows and the made sure to never update the wifi drivers from the stock windows driver. You might be able to just uninstall the wifi driver, restart and let windows install the driver.

After returning to the stock driver I have had no problems at all.
Joel
--
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On December 27, 2017 12:24:44 PM EST, "dfva@... [ap-gto]" wrote:
 

I too was having problems connecting the mount via apcc and the lan to a nuc.  I have a portable setup and would turn both the nuc and mount off every day.  I found if I turned the mount on before the nuc, apcc would not find the mount.  If I turned the nuc on first, then apcc would find the mount.  Your situation seems more complicated, but I thought I would pass this on


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Howard Hedlund
 

Hi Ron,

Contact me at my work e-mail -  howard at astro-physics dot com and we can try to set up a time where I can remote in to your computer with TeamViewer.  My guess is that you have your WiFi set up as an access point instead of as a client. 

Since you can see the LAN, use it to get onto the GTOCP4's web page.  From there, you can see the status and settings regarding the WiFi. 


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Roland Christen
 

Hello Ron,

Unfortunately everyone here is on vacation and the office is closed until jan2. However, we have contacted Howard and I believe that he will be inbtouch with you directly to help you solve this problem. Myself, i know nuttin' about wifi, so cannot help. However, we have our software engineer standing by waiting to see what Howard is finding out about your situation.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Wed, Dec 27, 2017 11:37 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

UPDATE: I posted that over the past several days (I could not connect to
the menu system via the IP of CP4).
I mentioned that doing a "FIND GTOCP4 in APCC revealed nothing).

I just checked APCC "find" again and while it doesn't find a wifi - it at
least NOW shows the lan. (never before).
No WIFI - likely since It won't connect to any network.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:

> Latest. VCP4-P01-10
>
> I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
> refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
> modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
> desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
> any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
> it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
> of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
> system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
> can join.
>
>
> ​
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
> ap-gto@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Which firmware are you using?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of Ron
>> Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
>> *To:* ap-gto@...
>> *Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond.
>> It's done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will
>> not repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
>> today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
>> here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
>> trying since it checked out.
>>
>> The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a network.
>> It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
>> password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
>> eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
>> it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
>> house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
>> (DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it.... I
>> will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..
>>
>> frustrating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
>> ap-gto@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps:
>>
>> Determine your iP Address
>>
>> Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
>> address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
>> directly to the “download using a browser” section. for those who have not
>> determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.
>>
>> first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable to
>> the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network switch
>> (port) on the other end.
>>
>> iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
>> established..
>>
>> We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
>> will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
>> All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
>> just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
>> determine your ip address..
>>
>> ● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
>> from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
>> connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
>> address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
>> remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
>> number, and are found by using the following formula:
>>
>> -
>>
>> ○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
>> the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
>> this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
>> 256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
>> -
>>
>> ○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it from
>> the serial number. the difference is your second value.
>> -
>>
>> ○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
>> -
>>
>> 635/256 = 2.4804...
>> -
>>
>> truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders” from
>> grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
>> -
>>
>> 2*256 = 512.
>> -
>>
>> 635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from above)
>> -
>>
>> ip = 169.254.2.123
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>






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Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Ron, trying to follow this thread and apologies if this isn't helpful BUT I recently added a second range extender at my place to improve access from the house to the observatory AND other parts of the house that my router wasn't reaching (due to it being positioned for max visibility of the observatory). So, Router in house, one range extender in the observatory and a second one (new) in the house to reach the front 2nd story (new metal roof is the root cause of my problem).

Anyway, I'm periodically having IP conflicts or I walk out to the observatory and all my wifi devices start prompting for passwords which they then insist are wrong despite me knowing they're right. 

So, if you have more than one extender, maybe it is confusing things?

Stuart

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

UPDATE: I posted that over the past several days (I could not connect to
the menu system via the IP of CP4).
I mentioned that doing a "FIND GTOCP4 in APCC revealed nothing).

I just checked APCC "find" again and while it doesn't find a wifi - it at
least NOW shows the lan. (never before).
No WIFI - likely since It won't connect to any network.



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:



> Latest. VCP4-P01-10
>
> I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
> refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
> modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
> desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
> any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
> it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
> of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
> system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
> can join.
>
>
> ​
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
> ap-gto@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Which firmware are you using?
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of Ron
>> Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
>> *To:* ap-gto@...
>> *Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?
>>
>>
>>
>> I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond.
>> It's done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will
>> not repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
>> today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
>> here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
>> trying since it checked out.
>>
>> The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a network.
>> It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
>> password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
>> eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
>> it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
>> house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
>> (DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it... I
>> will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..
>>
>> frustrating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
>> ap-gto@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope this helps:
>>
>> Determine your iP Address
>>
>> Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
>> address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
>> directly to the “download using a browser” section.. for those who have not

>> determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.
>>
>> first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable to
>> the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network switch
>> (port) on the other end.
>>
>> iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
>> established..
>>
>> We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
>> will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
>> All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
>> just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
>> determine your ip address..
>>
>> ● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
>> from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
>> connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
>> address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
>> remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
>> number, and are found by using the following formula:
>>
>> -
>>
>> ○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
>> the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
>> this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
>> 256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
>> -
>>
>> ○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it from
>> the serial number. the difference is your second value.
>> -
>>
>> ○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
>> -
>>
>> 635/256 = 2.4804...
>> -
>>
>> truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders” from
>> grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
>> -
>>
>> 2*256 = 512.
>> -
>>
>> 635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from above)
>> -
>>
>> ip = 169.254.2.123
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

connecting to access point mode - works instantly.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:

UPDATE: I posted that over the past several days (I could not connect to
the menu system via the IP of CP4).
I mentioned that doing a "FIND GTOCP4 in APCC revealed nothing).

I just checked APCC "find" again and while it doesn't find a wifi - it at
least NOW shows the lan. (never before).
No WIFI - likely since It won't connect to any network.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:

Latest. VCP4-P01-10

I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
can join.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



Which firmware are you using?


------------------------------
*From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of
Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
*To:* ap-gto@...
*Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?



I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond.
It's done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will
not repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
trying since it checked out.

The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a network.
It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
(DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it... I
will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..

frustrating.





On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



I hope this helps:

Determine your iP Address

Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
directly to the “download using a browser” section. for those who have not
determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.

first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable
to the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network
switch (port) on the other end.

iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
established..

We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
determine your ip address..

● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
number, and are found by using the following formula:

-

○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
-

○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it
from the serial number. the difference is your second value.
-

○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
-

635/256 = 2.4804...
-

truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders” from
grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
-

2*256 = 512.
-

635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from above)
-

ip = 169.254.2.123





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

UPDATE: I posted that over the past several days (I could not connect to
the menu system via the IP of CP4).
I mentioned that doing a "FIND GTOCP4 in APCC revealed nothing).

I just checked APCC "find" again and while it doesn't find a wifi - it at
least NOW shows the lan. (never before).
No WIFI - likely since It won't connect to any network.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Ron Kramer <ronkramer1957@...>
wrote:

Latest. VCP4-P01-10

I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
can join.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



Which firmware are you using?


------------------------------
*From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of Ron
Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
*To:* ap-gto@...
*Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?



I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond.
It's done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will
not repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
trying since it checked out.

The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a network.
It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
(DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it... I
will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..

frustrating.





On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



I hope this helps:

Determine your iP Address

Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
directly to the “download using a browser” section. for those who have not
determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.

first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable to
the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network switch
(port) on the other end.

iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
established..

We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
determine your ip address..

● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
number, and are found by using the following formula:

-

○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
-

○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it from
the serial number. the difference is your second value.
-

○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
-

635/256 = 2.4804...
-

truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders” from
grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
-

2*256 = 512.
-

635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from above)
-

ip = 169.254.2.123





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Dan Vanderzanden
 

I too was having problems connecting the mount via apcc and the lan to a nuc.  I have a portable setup and would turn both the nuc and mount off every day.  I found if I turned the mount on before the nuc, apcc would not find the mount.  If I turned the nuc on first, then apcc would find the mount.  Your situation seems more complicated, but I thought I would pass this on


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Yves Laroche
 

Latest is VCP4-P01-11.

Yves

Le 2017-12-27 12:08 PM, "Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> a écrit :
 

Latest. VCP4-P01-10

I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
can join.



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:

>
>
> Which firmware are you using?
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of Ron
> Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
> *To:* ap-gto@...
> *Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?
>
>
>
> I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond. It's
> done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will not
> repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
> today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
> here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
> trying since it checked out.
>
> The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a network.
> It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
> password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
> eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
> it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
> house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
> (DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it... I
> will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..
>
> frustrating.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
> ap-gto@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I hope this helps:
>
> Determine your iP Address
>
> Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
> address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
> directly to the “download using a browser” section. for those who have not
> determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.
>
> first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable to
> the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network switch
> (port) on the other end.
>
> iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
> established..
>
> We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
> will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
> All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
> just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
> determine your ip address..
>
> ● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
> from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
> connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
> address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
> remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
> number, and are found by using the following formula:
>
> -
>
> ○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
> the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
> this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
> 256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
> -
>
> ○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it from
> the serial number. the difference is your second value.
> -
>
> ○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
> -
>
> 635/256 = 2.4804...
> -
>
> truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders” from
> grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
> -
>
> 2*256 = 512.
> -
>
> 635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from above)
> -
>
> ip = 169.254.2.123
>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Bill Long
 

I had the same problem where it told me the password was incorrect. I deleted the configuration for my wireless network, then created it freshly. The CP4 joined and the problem went away. 




From: ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2017 9:08 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?
 
 

Latest. VCP4-P01-10

I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
can join.



On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:

>
>
> Which firmware are you using?
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of Ron
> Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
> *To:* ap-gto@...
> *Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?
>
>
>
> I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond. It's
> done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will not
> repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
> today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
> here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
> trying since it checked out.
>
> The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a network.
> It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
> password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
> eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
> it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
> house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
> (DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it... I
> will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..
>
> frustrating.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
> ap-gto@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I hope this helps:
>
> Determine your iP Address
>
> Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
> address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
> directly to the “download using a browser” section. for those who have not
> determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.
>
> first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable to
> the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network switch
> (port) on the other end.
>
> iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
> established..
>
> We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
> will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
> All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
> just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
> determine your ip address..
>
> ● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
> from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
> connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
> address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
> remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
> number, and are found by using the following formula:
>
> -
>
> ○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
> the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
> this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
> 256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
> -
>
> ○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it from
> the serial number. the difference is your second value.
> -
>
> ○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
> -
>
> 635/256 = 2.4804...
> -
>
> truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders” from
> grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
> -
>
> 2*256 = 512.
> -
>
> 635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from above)
> -
>
> ip = 169.254.2.123
>
>
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?

Ron Kramer
 

Latest. VCP4-P01-10

I've now tried to enter my password to several networks. It (again)
refuses to accept or log in. It says try another password. I rebooted my
modem, router - It's running fine, I'm running TV steam, I'm using remote
desktop to dome/nuc and can now get into the menu system, but can't join
any network. I've had this before as well. But after 20 tries I can get
it. I have over an hour and 100+ tries so far today. This is after a week
of entering the IP address to the menu and IT not loading. Now the menu
system appears but can not join either of 2 networks that everything else
can join.




On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



Which firmware are you using?


------------------------------
*From:* ap-gto@... <ap-gto@...> on behalf of Ron
Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, December 27, 2017 8:13 AM
*To:* ap-gto@...
*Subject:* Re: [ap-gto] Re: Can't access GTOCP4 again ?



I've done that and tried that. I have my IP. It would not respond. It's
done this before. Usually around every 6 weeks. Just checks out. Will not
repond. Comes back without warning. And well - doing the SAME things
today - it came back as quickly as it checked out. Nothing new tried
here... it just displayed the html internal menu from the same IP I've been
trying since it checked out.

The other problem. I'm still having is - when trying to join a network.
It will not accept the password. Though it is the CORRECT network
password. In the past - I enter the same network password 10-20 times and
eventually it accepts. So far today - 15 or so tries and doesn't accept
it. I was in the dome entering it direct (it's -6 F here). I'm back in the
house and I'll continue to enter the same password until it logs in.
(DEFEINATELY bugs in this wifi system). I'm going to keep entering it... I
will then check to see if APCC can find an IP address..

frustrating.





On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 9:19 AM, epdrehercl@... [ap-gto] <
ap-gto@...> wrote:



I hope this helps:

Determine your iP Address

Many of you will have already determined your ipv4 cabled ethernet ip
address. if you know this address, you can skip the following and proceed
directly to the “download using a browser” section. for those who have not
determined the ethernet ip address, please use the following instructions.

first, power up the Gtocp4, and connect the ethernet (i.e. cat6) cable to
the Gtocp4 on one end, and to your computer or a router or network switch
(port) on the other end.

iMPOrTAnT: Allow several minutes for the connections to be fully
established..

We suggest that you read all of the options rst to determine which one
will be most appropriate for your situation. the rst few options apply to
All operating systems – Windows, Mac, linux etc. if you have Apcc or even
just the AscoM driver installed, you may wish to consider using them to
determine your ip address..

● direct peer-to peer connection where the ethernet cable runs directly
from the computer to the Gtocp4. this is the siMplest And Most reliAble
connection for softWAre uploAds! peer-to-peer connections will have an ip
address starting with 169.254 (unless you have already made changes). the
remaining two parts of the ip address are based on your Gtocp4 serial
number, and are found by using the following formula:

-

○ divide the numeric portion of the serial number by 256. truncate
the result so that only the whole number value remains. do not round up!
this is your rst value. serial numbers less than 256 will use “0.” numbers
256 to 511 will use “1.” and so on.
-

○ Multiply the rst value from #1. above by 256, and subtract it from
the serial number. the difference is your second value.
-

○ exAMple: serial number = cp4-0635. numeric portion = 635
-

635/256 = 2.4804...
-

truncate to 2. this is the rst value. (remember “remainders” from
grade school? 635/256 = 2 with a remainder of 123)
-

2*256 = 512.
-

635-512 = 123 this is the second value (the remainder from above)
-

ip = 169.254.2.123





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]