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Re: 1600 mount tracking/guiding test

Bill Long
 

Wow, I think PHD has minmo set to .2 for each axis by default. I may have to try the 5 second calibration and these min/mo settings. 


Does MaximDL have aggressiveness settings? 




From: ap-gto@... on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:28 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1600 mount tracking/guiding test
 
 

I use MaximDL, however PHD would give the same results. There's nothing magic going on. I did a 5 second calibration run, set Min/Max move to 0.5 sec and 0.01 seconds. The mount is properly polar aligned so there is close to zero drift in both axes at the zenith. I could have done 60 second guider exposures and had the same guide results.

I just noticed that I posted that the image consisted of 50 x 20 minutes. That's wrong, it was 5 x 20 minutes.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Thu, Sep 14, 2017 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1600 mount tracking/guiding test



Impressive guiding and impressive image results!

Now I am curious how you configure your guider (and how to translate that to PHD guiding)... 



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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:12 PM
To: ap-gto@...; ap-ug@...
Subject: [ap-gto] 1600 mount tracking/guiding test
 
 
Hi All,

Had a calm night of good seeing, did some testing on the 1600 mount with 17" F8 astrograph. Guider scale is 1 arc sec per pixel. Guide subs were 20 sec. each. Note RMS guide values(peak values include dither moves).

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835867.jpg&caption=

Resultant image:

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835866.jpg&caption=

 50 x 20 minute exposure in H-a, scope was the AP 17" F8 astrograph, STL11K camera, 1600 mount.

Rolando



Re: 1600 mount tracking/guiding test

Roland Christen
 

OOps! That should read 5 x 20 minute exposures.

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: chris1011@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto ; ap-ug
Sent: Thu, Sep 14, 2017 4:12 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] 1600 mount tracking/guiding test



Hi All,

Had a calm night of good seeing, did some testing on the 1600 mount with 17" F8 astrograph. Guider scale is 1 arc sec per pixel. Guide subs were 20 sec. each. Note RMS guide values(peak values include dither moves).

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835867.jpg&caption=

Resultant image:

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835866.jpg&caption=

 50 x 20 minute exposure in H-a, scope was the AP 17" F8 astrograph, STL11K camera, 1600 mount.

Rolando



Re: 1600 mount tracking/guiding test

Roland Christen
 

I use MaximDL, however PHD would give the same results. There's nothing magic going on. I did a 5 second calibration run, set Min/Max move to 0.5 sec and 0.01 seconds. The mount is properly polar aligned so there is close to zero drift in both axes at the zenith. I could have done 60 second guider exposures and had the same guide results.

I just noticed that I posted that the image consisted of 50 x 20 minutes. That's wrong, it was 5 x 20 minutes.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Long bill@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Thu, Sep 14, 2017 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 1600 mount tracking/guiding test



Impressive guiding and impressive image results!

Now I am curious how you configure your guider (and how to translate that to PHD guiding)... 



From: ap-gto@... gto@...> on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:12 PM
To: ap-gto@...; ap-ug@...
Subject: [ap-gto] 1600 mount tracking/guiding test
 
 
Hi All,

Had a calm night of good seeing, did some testing on the 1600 mount with 17" F8 astrograph. Guider scale is 1 arc sec per pixel. Guide subs were 20 sec. each. Note RMS guide values(peak values include dither moves).

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835867.jpg&caption=

Resultant image:

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835866.jpg&caption=

 50 x 20 minute exposure in H-a, scope was the AP 17" F8 astrograph, STL11K camera, 1600 mount.

Rolando



Re: 1600 mount tracking/guiding test

Bill Long
 

Impressive guiding and impressive image results!


Now I am curious how you configure your guider (and how to translate that to PHD guiding)... 




From: ap-gto@... on behalf of chris1011@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:12 PM
To: ap-gto@...; ap-ug@...
Subject: [ap-gto] 1600 mount tracking/guiding test
 
 

Hi All,

Had a calm night of good seeing, did some testing on the 1600 mount with 17" F8 astrograph. Guider scale is 1 arc sec per pixel. Guide subs were 20 sec. each. Note RMS guide values(peak values include dither moves).

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835867.jpg&caption=

Resultant image:

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835866.jpg&caption=

 50 x 20 minute exposure in H-a, scope was the AP 17" F8 astrograph, STL11K camera, 1600 mount.

Rolando


1600 mount tracking/guiding test

Roland Christen
 

Hi All,

Had a calm night of good seeing, did some testing on the 1600 mount with 17" F8 astrograph. Guider scale is 1 arc sec per pixel. Guide subs were 20 sec. each. Note RMS guide values(peak values include dither moves).

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835867.jpg&caption=

Resultant image:

https://www.astromart.com/common/image_popup.asp?image=/images/forums/835000-835999/835866.jpg&caption=

 50 x 20 minute exposure in H-a, scope was the AP 17" F8 astrograph, STL11K camera, 1600 mount.

Rolando


Re: Microsoft .Net Framework Unhandled exception. Cannot create Active X Component

Barbara Harris
 

George,
I have .Net Framework 4.7 installed.  Do I uninstall and download an earlier version or do I uninstall and reinstall?

Barbara


Re: Microsoft .Net Framework Unhandled exception. Cannot create Active X Component

Bob Benamati
 

Hi Barbara,

One thought--make sure your .Net framework 3.5 is active.  A recent update on my Win10 laptop installed 4.6 (I believe)--and I had to reactivate the 3.5 service under "Windows Features" from the Add/Remove programs in the Control Panel.  Seems that the update de-activated 3.5 and the AP ASCOM driver requires both.

At least, that's what happened to mine. :)

Good luck!
Bob



-----Original Message-----
From: barbharris1@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Thu, Sep 14, 2017 12:58 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Microsoft .Net Framework Unhandled exception. Cannot create Active X Component

 
I just got a new (refurbished) observatory computer with Windows 7 Pro.  I got everything installed without errors.  Everything ran ok 2 weeks ago.  But when I tried opening APCC today, I got the message "Error opening the AP V2 ASCOM driver.  Cannot create ActiveX component."  Then when I went to the telescope setup for the AP V2 ASCOM driver, I got the message:  Microsoft .Net Framework.  Unhandled exception has occurred in your application.  Cannot create Active X Component."   When I start APCC I get the "Error opening  Everything worked 2 weeks ago.  I'm not sure what happened between then and now (Windows Updates?).  I have the AP V2 ASCOM driver 5.10.00, APCC Pro v1.6.03.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled the ASCOM driver and APCC and did got the same errors.

Barbara


Re: Microsoft .Net Framework Unhandled exception. Cannot create Active X Component

George
 

Barbara,

 

You need to install the .NET 4.5.2 Framework or later:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42643

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

Email:  george@...

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:58 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Microsoft .Net Framework Unhandled exception. Cannot create Active X Component

 

 

I just got a new (refurbished) observatory computer with Windows 7 Pro.  I got everything installed without errors.  Everything ran ok 2 weeks ago.  But when I tried opening APCC today, I got the message "Error opening the AP V2 ASCOM driver.  Cannot create ActiveX component."  Then when I went to the telescope setup for the AP V2 ASCOM driver, I got the message:  Microsoft .Net Framework.  Unhandled exception has occurred in your application.  Cannot create Active X Component."   When I start APCC I get the "Error opening  Everything worked 2 weeks ago.  I'm not sure what happened between then and now (Windows Updates?).  I have the AP V2 ASCOM driver 5.10.00, APCC Pro v1.6.03.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled the ASCOM driver and APCC and did got the same errors.

 

Barbara


Microsoft .Net Framework Unhandled exception. Cannot create Active X Component

Barbara Harris
 

I just got a new (refurbished) observatory computer with Windows 7 Pro.  I got everything installed without errors.  Everything ran ok 2 weeks ago.  But when I tried opening APCC today, I got the message "Error opening the AP V2 ASCOM driver.  Cannot create ActiveX component."  Then when I went to the telescope setup for the AP V2 ASCOM driver, I got the message:  Microsoft .Net Framework.  Unhandled exception has occurred in your application.  Cannot create Active X Component."   When I start APCC I get the "Error opening  Everything worked 2 weeks ago.  I'm not sure what happened between then and now (Windows Updates?).  I have the AP V2 ASCOM driver 5.10.00, APCC Pro v1.6.03.  I have uninstalled and reinstalled the ASCOM driver and APCC and did got the same errors.


Barbara


forcing the mount to be EAST without having to move the scope.

Benoit Schillings
 

I do have a remote setup which is setup to only run with the mount
EAST of the pier.

The mount is physically on the right side, but for some reason the
software suddently decided that it was on the WEST side.

Is there an RS-232 command which can *SET* the mount side ?


thank you

-- benoit


Re: Any astrophotography specialist in NY area? [Mach1GTO / Stellarvue 80mm]

steven ho
 

A detailed list of equipment would be good. There are many small but critical pieces. Maybe you could forward me the invoices so I can check the inventory. Who did you purchase from?


steve hoffman



From: ap-gto@... on behalf of camilapastorelli@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Any astrophotography specialist in NY area? [Mach1GTO / Stellarvue 80mm]
 
 

Hi Steve,

That's sound very exciting. The fact is Andre doesn't have any experience with the equipment, so he will need help to set up the mount and the scope before taking pictures. If you think you could help, please email us: camila@..., andre@...

Let's be in touch
Best,
Camila


Re: Any astrophotography specialist in NY area? [Mach1GTO / Stellarvue 80mm]

Camila Pastorelli
 

Hi Steve,
That's sound very exciting. The fact is Andre doesn't have any experience with the equipment, so he will need help to set up the mount and the scope before taking pictures. If you think you could help, please email us: camila@..., andre@...

Let's be in touch
Best,
Camila


Re: powertank/battery to travel - mach1GTO

Dale Ghent
 

On Sep 11, 2017, at 3:42 PM, camilapastorelli@yahoo.com [ap-gto] <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi guys,

We are going to buy a Mach1GTO and we would like to get help with some topics:

. Do you think this Goal Zero battery SHERPA 100 POWER PACK handles the mach1cto for a night of work? http://www.goalzero.com/p/207/sherpa-100-power-pack If not, which suggestions do you have?
I went from using a Kendrick Astro 33Ah battery pack with its AGM deep cycle battery. I wanted a lighter and more flexible solution, so I replaced that with a Bioenno 12V/40Ah LiFePO4 battery Kendrick Power Panel with 15VDC buck-boost inverter for powering my Mach1GTO.

https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/12v-series-lifepo4-batteries/products/12v-40ah-lfp-battery-pvc-blf-1240a

The Bioenno battery is almost 1/3 the weight of the AGM deep cycle. I no longer dread moving that heavy thing around.

. Do you know if we could travel by airplane with batteries? (the technical support from Astro-physics said that could be a problem)
It is best to contact the airline about this. Your government's aviation authority likely has basic regulations, but airlines are of course able to apply additional restrictions of their own, either for general reasons or because of the specific aircraft you might be flying on. LiPo batteries, in general, are allowed only in the cabin and NOT in checked baggage, where any fires in the cargo hold caused by them would be quickly out of control. on.

For example, you can reference the US's FAA guidelines on this subject:
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ash/ash_programs/hazmat/passenger_info/media/Airline_passengers_and_batteries.pdf

In general, however, batteries of any type of the size required by us will likely be prohibited.

/dale


Re: Any astrophotography specialist in NY area? [Mach1GTO / Stellarvue 80mm]

steven ho
 

Well I have an AP-900 permanently mounted in my yard. Andre could set up the Mach1 seperately and we could image with my equipment and the Mach1.


Give me your email address and I will send you some information and pictures.


steve hoffman



From: ap-gto@... on behalf of camilapastorelli@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 10:58 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Any astrophotography specialist in NY area? [Mach1GTO / Stellarvue 80mm]
 
 

Hi Steve,

Nice! And do you how to set everything, Mach1 and Stellarvue 80?
Someone in NYC it would be best, but there's a possibility to Andre drive until where you are. :)
best
camila


Re: Confused about SKY CHARTS program and APCC Tracking

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks Rolando,
 
    Makes sense – since it was told to “disconnect itself”, Sky Charts has “no further reason” to poll the mount for tracking status – Sky Charts  job had come to an end. Perhaps a tidier way might have been if SC’s “Tracking state” would have “grayed itself out”,  instead of staying GREEN and as misinformation.
 
Joe
 

From: chris1011@... [ap-gto]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 11:19 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Confused about SKY CHARTS program and APCC Tracking
 


 
(either APCC or the ASCOM Driver), is not sending it the PARK and Tracking (Stopped) status.
Nothing is ever sent out from the mount or ASCOM or APCC without being asked. NOTHING.

Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Tue, Sep 12, 2017 11:18 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Confused about SKY CHARTS program and APCC Tracking



Hi,
    This is sort of off-topic, but something there is something odd about what I see happening in Cartes du Ciel (SKY CHARTS) when APCC has already PARKED the mount. Sky Charts shows that the mount is still “Tracking” (its icon is still green)  - after CCDSOFT had completed its color imaging, and I also had already ABORTED its RGH guiding activity - even though APCC itself, correctly shows Tracking = 0. I also tried using Sky Charts “Abort Slew” but it made no difference on its incorrect tracking status. Don’t know what the heck it thinks it is tracking – certainly not the mount.
 
    The only thing still running was Sky Charts, and APCC.  As I recall, last time I saw this, I purposely disconnected the mount in Sky Charts, and shut down APCC – yet Sky Charts  was still showing Tracking active.
This may likely be a bug in Sky Charts, or  (either APCC or the ASCOM Driver), is not sending it the PARK and Tracking (Stopped) status.
 
    Anybody else notice this?   Sky Charts (rev. 3.11 SVN-3261 ... from 2016).
Not a problem, just an inconsistency. Does this also happen with other software like SKY-X, ACP, or MAXIMDL, when APCC has parked the mount ?
 
Just wondering - Thanks,
Joe
 
   
 



Re: Confused about SKY CHARTS program and APCC Tracking

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks Ray,
 
    I suspected it is an oversight in CdC/Sky Charts, but wondered if it was something I had failed to do, in a specific sequence on Sky Charts mount disconnect command. I suppose that since I gave it a “disconnect command”, the program assumed there was no way – nor any need – to confirm the state of tracking. After all, the developer might have thought that just because I disconnected his program (Sky Charts), there was no way, nor reason to assume the tracking state ... since maybe the user had another program that would take over monitoring the tracking condition. If Sky Charts had actually disconnected an d then declared that tracking was actually off,  then that might be a false assumption – under certain run conditions.
 
    After all, that program doesn’t have an actual “Stop Tracking” command, just a connection and a poll of the mount’s current state, when it initially “connects itself” ... as an app ... to whatever (APCC) is responsible for actual mount control. The first Sky Charts “slew”  command probably results in APCC itself,  activating tracking at that point.
 
    So, I can see where this situation might make some sense. Wouldn’t want to have a situation of too many cooks in the stars kitchen. Not urgent, but I’ll mention “this oddity” to the developer, Patrick Chevalley.
 
Joe


Re: Confused about SKY CHARTS program and APCC Tracking

Roland Christen
 


(either APCC or the ASCOM Driver), is not sending it the PARK and Tracking (Stopped) status.
Nothing is ever sent out from the mount or ASCOM or APCC without being asked. NOTHING.

Rolando


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Tue, Sep 12, 2017 11:18 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Confused about SKY CHARTS program and APCC Tracking



Hi,
    This is sort of off-topic, but something there is something odd about what I see happening in Cartes du Ciel (SKY CHARTS) when APCC has already PARKED the mount. Sky Charts shows that the mount is still “Tracking” (its icon is still green)  - after CCDSOFT had completed its color imaging, and I also had already ABORTED its RGH guiding activity - even though APCC itself, correctly shows Tracking = 0. I also tried using Sky Charts “Abort Slew” but it made no difference on its incorrect tracking status. Don’t know what the heck it thinks it is tracking – certainly not the mount.
 
    The only thing still running was Sky Charts, and APCC.  As I recall, last time I saw this, I purposely disconnected the mount in Sky Charts, and shut down APCC – yet Sky Charts  was still showing Tracking active.
This may likely be a bug in Sky Charts, or  (either APCC or the ASCOM Driver), is not sending it the PARK and Tracking (Stopped) status.
 
    Anybody else notice this?   Sky Charts (rev. 3.11 SVN-3261 ... from 2016).
Not a problem, just an inconsistency. Does this also happen with other software like SKY-X, ACP, or MAXIMDL, when APCC has parked the mount ?
 
Just wondering - Thanks,
Joe
 
   
 



Re: Any astrophotography specialist in NY area? [Mach1GTO / Stellarvue 80mm]

Camila Pastorelli
 

Hi Steve,
Nice! And do you how to set everything, Mach1 and Stellarvue 80?
Someone in NYC it would be best, but there's a possibility to Andre drive until where you are. :)
best
camila


Re: APCC error: Recal failed because is too far > 5 degree

Carmine Iaffaldano
 

Thank you.


Re: APCC error: Recal failed because is too far > 5 degree

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Carmine,

Can you tell me if i can remove the Recal limit or suggest to me a explanation of the problem? I specify that
the problem is random , at the moment i dont find a rule of when it happens if not that it happens prevalently
in west side of meridian after pier flip.
It's in APCC's Advanced settings. It's called "Prevent errant RECALs". It happens when a plate solve is more than 5 degrees away from where the telescope thinks it is pointing. The reason for this option is that sometimes a plate solve will give a false solution and if synced on that solution it will result in the telescope pointing to the wrong position.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:19 AM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC error: Recal failed because is too far > 5 degree



I am having a strange series of plate solving errors: while FM4 sends the mount near to zenith in Aquirestars
routine the mount fails the object and i have a pinpoint failing error of plate solving; after this error APCC
shows the error in object when all sky plate solving finds the lost scope; it seems that the error happens
when the mount moves in DEC also because i have the park position 4 wrong only in DEC position (the AR
is perfect).

Can you tell me if i can remove the Recal limit or suggest to me a explanation of the problem? I specify that
the problem is random , at the moment i dont find a rule of when it happens if not that it happens prevalently
in west side of meridian after pier flip.

Thanks.




Carmine