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Re: Shortening the height of G11 tripod

fl.lusen
 

John,

I had a similar delemma with my setup.  When I got my AP1100 my setup wound up being to high.  My setup includes a TEC-140, a 60 or 70mm guide scope on top plus the usual accumulation of accessories.  What I did was acquire a Meade field tripod, not the Giant one.  Measurement to the top of the tripod with feet retracted is 30.750".  With the interface I made, measurement from the top of the tripod to the top of the AP adapter for the 1100 is an additional 2.750".  So total is 33.500".  Once everything is mounted I am at a comfortable height.  No more step stools.

You should be able to pick up an older Mead field tripod for somewhere around $100.00.

Fred

-----Original Message-----
From: jshutz@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 4:41 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Shortening the height of G11 tripod

 
I must be doing something wrong here, why is it each message or response is repeated constantly?

Anyway, Dean and Chris gave me some food for thought so I'll take a look at the measurements and go from there.  At this point I'm not as committed to this idea, so I'll look into other options.  Thank you.

John 


Hand controller is stuck on AP Ver 4.19.3 screen

steven ho
 

Can anyone help?


Did I cream my database?


It worked last time about 2 months ago.


Thanks 

Steve Hoffman


Chip Revisions

Mike C
 



I have a "V" chip in one of my GTOCP3 and a "V1" in another. For an AP1200 with APCC, are any of these chips essentially identical or are there pressing reasons to upgrade them to V2?


Thanks,
Mike in Alaska


Re: AP portable pier vs ATS portable pier

cford81@...
 

Hi Hemant - my pleasure. Yes I was surprised when George told me to swap the metal for rubber pads, but as soon as I did the egg shaped stars I was getting at 10+ minutes exposures went away.

I will likely sell that Pier shortly.

Chris Ford


From: "Hemant Hariyani hemanthariyani@... [ap-gto]"
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:00:25 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP portable pier vs ATS portable pier

 

Hello Chris,

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience. I would have never imagined something like rubber pads making that sort of a difference. Certainly something to keep in mind. ATS would be a dream pier. I will need to see if I can budget for it. If you are putting your ATS on astromart or something let me know, Buying used may be an option to consider.

Thanks again for your help.

Regards
Hemant


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 8:16 PM, cford81@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I used a portable 10" ATS pier for a while with my AP1600GTO before moving to a permanent ATS pier in my observatory. I also have used the AP Pier in the past. (My portable 10" ATS Pier I will sell shortly)

The big difference as you observe is that the ATS Pier can be leveled much more easily as each of the legs is adjustable over a greater range. It is certainly quite transportable but it is very solid and robust as well. It is also quicker to setup as you don't need to assemble the legs and turnbuckles, you just swing out the legs and secure them. Once assembled you could probably anchor a ship to an ATS pier and it would not move. In general for extreme stability at long focal lengths I found the ATS pier a more robust portable solution compared to the AP pier. (Which is certainly adequate for most uses) I remember once when doing long focal length work observing a slight shift as the mount shifted weight distribution because the metal pads were sliding on my patio slightly. When I changed the pads from metal to the hard rubber pads the problem went away. That is an option (I believe) you have with the ATS pier you don't with the AP pier. In general, I think the ATS pier is worth the additional expense.

Chris




From: "Hemant Hariyani hemanthariyani@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:57:12 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] AP portable pier vs ATS portable pier


 


Hello all,

I am new to the group and this is my first post. I am also considering purchasing an AP 1600 and this will be my first AP product. I have heard a lot of good things and am looking forward to getting one myself. George at Astrophysics was extremely helpful in clarifying my questions regarding the mount and the AP customer service is the single biggest reason why I am opting for AP over other mounts.

I do know that an ATS portable pier would probably be the best portable pier that I can get for the mount but it is considerably more expensive than the AP pier. I was wondering if I could get some help comparing these two options? My setup would spend a lot of time in my backyard observatory with occasional trips to a dark site and long focal length astrophotography is what the mount would primarily be used for.

Does ATS offer any more stability than AP pier does for the max load capacity of the mount?

I understand that leveling the AP pier can be a problem? Can this be solved by providing some sort of a base/platform or modification? Concrete leveling blocks etc?

What about the ease of setup? How difficult is it to transport and setup an AP pier?

If AP solves the problem and provides just as much stability, I would rather go for it but at the same time, I would hate to buy something and then be left wanting more.

I will appreciate any help I can get here.

Regards
Hemant






Older versions of the AP V2 ASCOM Driver that are still available

Ray Gralak
 

In case anyone ever wants to rollback to an earlier version of the ASCOM
driver, here are the links of available older versions (version is in the
filename). Eventually we will put this up on a web page.

V5.09.09 - 2017-Mar-15 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.09.09.exe (Latest
version)

- IMPROVEMENT - Allow for mount responses with extended precision.
- BUG FIX - when connected via APCC, get ALT/AZ from APCC so that if a
pointing model is being used the corrected ALT/AZ coordinates will be
displayed by the driver.
- BUG FIX - Time Sync response from APCC was handled as having failed even
if it was successful.

V5.09.08 - 2017-Jan-31 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - Park status was not always reported correctly.

V5.09.07 - 2017-Jan-23 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.09.07.exe

- BUG FIX - if APCC sequence numbers get out of sync, a the response to a
possibly different command could be wrongly get used. Fixed by clearing the
response string when the sequence number is incorrect, so the response
cannot be used. Also, cleared the internal send/receive buffers to empty all
older sequence number responses. The following commands should then have the
correct sequence number.

V5.09.06 - 2017-Jan-19 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- IMPROVEMENT - the Time Zone offset in the user interface now reflects the
generally accepted time zone polarity instead of the value returned from the
mount.

V5.09.05 - 2017-Jan-01 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.09.05.exe

- BUG FIX - Longitudes less than 10 degrees would not match correctly in
Site info group.

V5.09.04 - 2016-Nov-12 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.09.04.exe

- BUG FIX - Updated use of old ASCOM DriverHelper/DriverHelper2.Util to use
the newer ASCOM.Utilities.Util. The legacy version was not updating the Time
Zone correctly on a time change.
- BUG FIX - Prevent Time Zone from being updated when "keep Time Synced to
PC" is not enabled.

V5.09.03 - 2016-Nov-03 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.09.03.exe

- BUG FIX - Fixed a case missed in 5.09.02 where a time zone less than -12
was logged as an error.

V5.09.02 - 2016-Oct-31 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.09.02.exe

- IMPROVEMENT - the controller type is now shown in the main window (slight
user interface changes).
- IMPROVEMENT - If the controller is a GTOCP4 then hide the backlash setting
controls, since backlash is not used.
- IMPROVEMENT - When connected to APCC, the "keep time synced" feature is
now delegated to APCC. If APCC has its own "keep time sync" feature enabled,
it will override the same setting in the driver. If APCC has "keep time
synced" disabled then the driver will be able to override APCC and enable
"keep time sync" until the next time that APCC is run.
- BUG FIX - Time Zones less than -12 were not being handled correctly.
- BUG FIX - Getting ASCOM DeclinationRate no longer throws an exception when
tracking is disabled.
- BUG FIX - AP1100 was missing from mount types.
- BUG FIX - Fixed several ASCOM Conformance issues when running driver
through APCC.

- EXPERIMENTAL - When used with APCC 1.5.0.15 and later, the driver will now
use a different COM port for the user and administrator accounts, allowing
two instances of the driver to connect simultaneously to APCC. This will
allow a mix of applications running under the user account and "as
administrator" to connect to the mount through APCC.

V5.09.01 - 2016-July-19 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.09.01.exe

- BUG FIX - GetAllValues was pulling entries from the old AP.INI .file
instead of
Settings.apdb (this is a fix for proper operation with APCC).

V5.09.00 - 2016-June-05 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- IMPROVEMENT - Improved robustness of the driver starting APCC and
autoconfiguring the COM port.
- IMPROVEMENT - Improved robustness of the driver opening the correct APCC
virtual port.
- BUG FIX - Site latitude/longitude was not matching the mount if leading
zeros were not used. The driver now auto formats the latitude and longitude
with leading zeros if needed.
- BUG FIX - Under certain circumstances when parking from a counterweight up
position the driver was not able to stop the initial slew to a counterweight
down position, resulting in a potential equipment collision.
- BUG FIX - Force Meridian Delay to 0 before unparking (Rev S or later).

V5.08.09 - 2016-May-22 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - Throw error immediately if COM port does not exist.

V5.08.08 - 2016-April-24 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.08.08.exe
- BUG FIX - Site Latitude/Longitude were not always being sent to the
mount when initializing through the driver.

V5.08.07 - 2016-April-07 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.08.07.exe

- BUG FIX - Completely reworked site Latitude/Longitude Save/Restore
- BUG FIX - ASCOM RightAscensionRate and DeclinationRate were not being
enabled for GTOCP4
- BUG FIX - Show Virtual Hand box by default was not working correctly
- BUG FIX - Fixed a few minor ASCOM conformance issues
- IMPORTANT NOTE: this Build was checked and passes all ASCOM Conformance
tests with no Issues or Errors.

V5.08.06 - 2016-April-02 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.08.06.exe

- BUG FIX - Setting the Meridian limits in the user interface was not
working.
- BUG FIX - Time synchronization was not working.

V5.08.05 - 2016-February-06 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - RA/DEC Bookmarks were not being displayed if no previous
bookmarks were set in the AP.INI when moving settings to the new database
settings storage.
- BUG FIX - In the setup window the site settings values could get out of
sync with the database if values were changed but not saved. The driver now
will now not allow the settings window to close until site settings have
been saved or canceled.
- The driver defaults have been changed to now show the driver when an
application connects.

V5.08.04 - 2016-January-18 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - GTOCP4 mount type was not defined properly and this ultimately
caused an Error 380 in the setup window.

V5.08.03 - 2016-January-17 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - in the driver setup window, when entering a decimal site
latitude or longitude value, if the decimal value had all zeros (e,g
"28.00") the minutes and seconds fields would not get filled in. Also a
carriage return was not being accepted to force the conversion from decimal
to hours, minutes, and seconds.

V5.08.02 - 2015-December-29 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- Installer - Changed installation location to a sub-directory under
Telescope (e.g. "C:&#92;Program Files&#92;Common
Files&#92;ASCOM&#92;Telescope&#92;Astro-Physics")
- Digitally sign executables and installer for greater security.

V5.08.01 - 2015-December-22 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- Changed order of text ion a few controls to Latitude/Longitude instead of
Longitude/latitude.

V5.08.00 - 2015-November-23 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BIG CHANGE -> Settings now saved to local shared (with APCC) database
file (Settings.apdb) instead of AP.INI. Old settings will be automatically
copied to the new database ("settings.apdb") the first time the driver runs.
- Site configuration now uses a single drop down list box for site names.
- Sites are now common between APCC and the driver.
- RA/Dec and Alt/Az Bookmarks are now saved and shared with APCC.
- Eliminated "Send Longitude/Latitude to Mount" buttons because this can
cause the mount to be unexpectedly re-oriented.
- IMPROVEMENT - Added Site name to Virtual Hand box window. It will be
highlighted if the site's lat/long coordinates do not match the mount's.
Clicking the site name will open the driver page up to view the difference.
- BUG FIX - Longitude/Latitude can no longer be changed after the mount has
been initialized. If set from the ASCOM driver the changes will take effect
the next full initialization.
- BUG FIX - retical brightness was not being saved.
- BUG FIX - Some settings were saved multiple times needlessly.

V5.07.02 - 2015-October-31 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.07.02.exe

- BUG FIX - Safe Slewing did not operate correctly always when parking the
mount.
- Added option to not show the Park 1 warning any more.

V5.07.01 - 2015-August-30 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - When decimal and comma are swapped because of regional settings
the driver was sometimes passing improperly formatted commands to APCC.

V5.07.00 - 2015-August-08 Beta - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - After a slew completes set to Sidereal so driver does not set
tracking rate to custom rates. This was causing the driver to send custom
rates to APCC by accident.

V5.06.05 - 2015-April-25 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.06.05.exe

- Replaced "Allow connect when mount not present" with a timeout value in
seconds. The new field is in the Advanced page of the driver's Initial Setup
dialog window. A value of "0" is an infinite timeout. Values from 1-600
seconds are also accepted. When a timeout occurs during an ASCOM Client's
connect attempt control is returned to the ASCOM client application.
Previously, if the "Allow connect when mount not present" was enabled,
control might not ever be returned to the driver if the mount is not
connected.

- Added a new variable "SafeSlewRaDec" that can be used in AP.INI. The
default if it is not present is that Safe Slews are enabled
(SafeSlewRaDec=1). To disable safe slews set SafeSlewRaDec=0 in AP.INI.

- On connecting to the mount the driver will now query the mount type and if
a fork mount only do raw RA/Dec slews (no safety slews even if
"SafeSlewRaDec=0" in AP.INI.

- Updated Windows version checking (in top of log files) to properly display
the Windows version through Windows 10

V5.06.04 - 2015-March-25 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- Added a variable to enable old button down behavior found in 5.05.16 and
earlier drivers, which while being more responsive might not register button
up or down events when using remote desktop-like software..

This option is off by default. Add this line to AP.INI to enable it:

UseOldButtonBehavior=1

- Improved "Allow connection when mount not present". If not enabled and the
COM port not present or mount does not respond the driver will report
failure to connect. If present the driver keeps trying to connect.

V5.06.03 - 2015-March-13 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - Tracking sometimes stopped when connected in 05.06.02.
- ENHANCEMENT - ASCOM driver call to DoesRefraction call now reflects APCC's
refraction enabled checkbox.

V5.06.02 - 2015-January-16 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - Throw exception immediately if COM Port not available

V5.06.01 - 2014-December-30 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- BUG FIX - Custom RA/Dec rates was always being set after a slew completed.

V5.06.00 - 2014-October-05 Release - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
- Validate range of custom rate to -99.9999x to 99.9999x sidereal.
- Adjusted Park 4 location.

V5.05.41 - 2014-September-27 BETA - Ray Gralak
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver/AstroPhysics_V2_Setup_5.05.41.exe

- Prevent use of Tracking via PulseGuide if mount has a GTOCP3 controller.
- Stop popping up unpark dialog whenever user clicks "Don't Unpark" when
mount is uninitialized.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/ap
cc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


New version of the ASCOM driver v5.09.09 is available

Ray Gralak
 

A new version of the ASCOM driver is available that should fix the
never-ending park problem (Howard has told me feedback was good from
testers). This version has a couple other minor fixes, including matching up
the Alt/Az values with APCC in the upcoming APCC v1.5.0.21 release.

As usual with releases, this version has been checked with the ASCOM
Conformance checker utility.

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/ap
cc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


Re: RAPAS and Polemaster

Don Anderson
 

Gota love RAPAS!
 
Don Anderson



From: "Suresh Mohan Neelmegh drsureshmohan@... [ap-gto]"
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2017 1:50 AM
Subject: [ap-gto] RAPAS and Polemaster

 
Ok guys I own a Mach 1, my friend an EQ 6 , I live close to the sea@ 13 N and summer has set in causing haze . RAPAS picked up Polaris in 10 seconds and I was polar aligned within 1 arc minute ( checked by software ) . I went over to EQ 6 who wanted to demonstrate polemaster . Now Polaris was not visible in the EQ 6 polar scope ( too too faint ) . We spent till midnight using pole master searching for Polaris and finally gave up .
Polemaster is great only when u know where Polaris is exactly ; last night Polemaster s second step ie rotating to align the other nearby stars flopped
Suresh




Re: RAPAS and Polemaster

Suresh Mohan
 

Dean ,
            Let me explain the exact scenario , I would see Polaris in RAPAS faintly but not on the EQ 6 scope as clarity was lacking . Each time we would fix the Polemaster , see a bright star , so far so good , 2 nd step was to rotate the field to match / it would not match - hence we assumed the bright star is not Polaris . Also when we did try to photograph we had trails . The problem was the eq6 polar scope which lacked clarity to identify Polaris as the initial step
Suresh 


On 02-Apr-2017, at 6:52 PM, Dean Schwartzenberg dean@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

My pole master was way out of focus when I got it.  They said it would be factory set but don't count on it.  

I get about 1 arc minute with it and the RAPAS so a toss up for me.  I still do a quick tweak with pempro.  Sometime I am closer, sometimes not.  

Just another neat gadget to get a job done.  

Dean 


On Apr 2, 2017, at 5:55 AM, jshutz@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

I wouldn't use the Pole Master if Polaris wasn't visible to the unaided eye, just a rule of thumb, something all Pole Master owners realize. It seems odd you found it with RAPAS, but couldn't find it with the Pole Master? The conditions must have deteriorated by the time you tried to site it with your friend's polar scope. The Pole Master camera is very sensitive, you can rachet the gamma intensity up whereby Polaris is as bright as Venus.  Of course the second step flopped if you can't see Polaris to begin with. The secondary stars are much dimmer than Polaris.  


Re: RAPAS and Polemaster

Dean S
 

My pole master was way out of focus when I got it.  They said it would be factory set but don't count on it.  

I get about 1 arc minute with it and the RAPAS so a toss up for me.  I still do a quick tweak with pempro.  Sometime I am closer, sometimes not.  

Just another neat gadget to get a job done.  

Dean 


On Apr 2, 2017, at 5:55 AM, jshutz@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

I wouldn't use the Pole Master if Polaris wasn't visible to the unaided eye, just a rule of thumb, something all Pole Master owners realize. It seems odd you found it with RAPAS, but couldn't find it with the Pole Master? The conditions must have deteriorated by the time you tried to site it with your friend's polar scope. The Pole Master camera is very sensitive, you can rachet the gamma intensity up whereby Polaris is as bright as Venus.  Of course the second step flopped if you can't see Polaris to begin with. The secondary stars are much dimmer than Polaris.  


Re: RAPAS and Polemaster

John Shutz
 

I wouldn't use the Pole Master if Polaris wasn't visible to the unaided eye, just a rule of thumb, something all Pole Master owners realize. It seems odd you found it with RAPAS, but couldn't find it with the Pole Master? The conditions must have deteriorated by the time you tried to site it with your friend's polar scope. The Pole Master camera is very sensitive, you can rachet the gamma intensity up whereby Polaris is as bright as Venus.  Of course the second step flopped if you can't see Polaris to begin with. The secondary stars are much dimmer than Polaris.  


Re: Shortening the height of G11 tripod

John Shutz
 

I must be doing something wrong here, why is it each message or response is repeated constantly?

Anyway, Dean and Chris gave me some food for thought so I'll take a look at the measurements and go from there.  At this point I'm not as committed to this idea, so I'll look into other options.  Thank you.

John  



RAPAS and Polemaster

Suresh Mohan
 

Ok guys I own a Mach 1, my friend an EQ 6 , I live close to the sea@ 13 N and summer has set in causing haze . RAPAS picked up Polaris in 10 seconds and I was polar aligned within 1 arc minute ( checked by software ) . I went over to EQ 6 who wanted to demonstrate polemaster . Now Polaris was not visible in the EQ 6 polar scope ( too too faint ) . We spent till midnight using pole master searching for Polaris and finally gave up .
Polemaster is great only when u know where Polaris is exactly ; last night Polemaster s second step ie rotating to align the other nearby stars flopped
Suresh


PHD2 Predictive Algorithm Thread

Derek Wong
 

Dear ap-gto members:

There was some disagreement about some of the comments in the PHD2 thread over the last few days by several software authors.  After speaking with the parties, the only way to resolve this to everyone's satisfaction was to remove the entire thread.  I very much regret this as the thread had good information.  I have saved most of the messages in Word format if anyone would like a copy.  I tried very hard to leave some of the thread intact, but it was not to be.

I truly apologize to the people who posted useful information and whose posts were deleted without any issues on their part.  Please know that any PHD2 posts here are on topic and the conversation should be able to continue.  I very rarely (less than once a year) moderate this group and I do not anticipate any moderation on this topic in the future.

Sincerely,

Derek


Re: V2 Driver Problem

Ray Gralak
 

I run a planetarium program (ECU). SGP, and PHD2 together. Today I got them all
signed-in by right clicking the desktop icon and "run as administrator." Is that the
correct procedure?
It's better not to have to run any of those programs "as administrator", but if one of them requires that then you will have to run all of them as administrator.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:51 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: V2 Driver Problem



I run a planetarium program (ECU). SGP, and PHD2 together. Today I got them all
signed-in by right clicking the desktop icon and "run as administrator." Is that the
correct procedure?


Re: Shortening the height of G11 tripod

Christopher Erickson
 

GM-8 tripods are shorter than G-11 tripods and will take the same LT2APM adapter.
 
Depending on the vintage of the GM-8 tripod there are various things that can be done to really stiffen them up for big loads.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:30 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Shortening the height of G11 tripod

I have a 900GTO and came to realize it is too tall to safely mount my recently purchased 11" EdgeHD SCT.  To the middle of the saddle is around 54" and when the EdgeHD is fully loaded, it weighs in at around 42 lbs. I also have issues with a twice operated on left shoulder and knee (motorcycle accident), notwithstanding a broken back and pelvis too.  So I've decided to look at some possible solutions.


The set up doesn't have to be as tall as it is, with an 80mm guide scope on top of the SCT the thing is 7' tall.  I was wondering if anyone here has ever cut the tripod legs on their G11 tripod? I know to do so you would have to cut the inner adjustable sleeves as well, but it doesn't seem too complicated if I were to enlist the help of a machinist to do it right. 


The tripod stands at around 35.6" high, I can see chopping it down by 10"-12", that would put the saddle at a comfortable mounting height. I haven't really looked at the tubes or taken it apart, just throwing this out to see if anyone else has done this.  I know one drawback is the likely hood of devaluing the tripod, even if it's the older model non adjustable one.  As a comparison, my CEM60EC mount/tripod is about 44" to mid saddle and that is ideal.  


John 


Re: V2 Driver Problem

smithned753@...
 

I run a planetarium program (ECU).  SGP,  and PHD2 together. Today I got them all signed-in by right clicking the desktop icon and "run as administrator."  Is that the correct procedure?


Re: AP portable pier vs ATS portable pier

Hemant Hariyani
 

John,

Thanks for sharing this experience. This is very helpful.

I also spoke to George at AP as well and he mentioned that the primary advantage of ATS over AP was stability. Single piece and ease of leveling is an added benefit. That said, AP is still very good at what it does. I will try and get an ATS if my budget allows.

Regards
Hemant

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 12:05 PM, 'John A. Sillasen' JASillasen@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I, too, went through the AP Portable Pier to the ATS Portable Pier conversion with my own AP 1100.  After getting my 1100 very early and having a car payment and a Mach 1, I couldn't swing the ATS Portable Pier at the same time.  If you recall my posts, I bought my first AP mount simply because of an AP promise to make the RAPAS available through all their range of mounts.  I bought the Mach 1 from my motel room at NEAIC with George's careful assistance with part numbers.  A few months later, the RAPAS was indeed made available for the Mach 1.  A couple of years later and now I have the AP 1100 GTO s/n 0009 on the AP Portable Pier.  It's functional sure but getting those turnbuckles to level on Connecticut's uneven ground for a star party or public observing was not fun.

When I ordered the ATS Portable Pier through AP, George was quick to point out getting the rubber feet was a must as the metal feet would slide and dig in.

I never regretted it.  I will say while the ATS is much heavier than the AP Portable Pier, it has no extra parts to forget.  I was constantly doing pocket checks to make sure I had the base, the 3 legs, the 3 turnbuckles and rods and of course the tube.  Lighter for sure but so much more difficult to level.  I ended up bringing a short length of 2x4 just to make sure I could level it. 

I will say the AP Portable Pier works and works well and for the cost it's a no brainer when compared to that of the ATS Portable Pier.  It's easily a third the price and nearly as stable.  Well stable enough for what will go on an 1100.  The ATS is much heavier and while I haven't purchased a case for it, I did get the extra cost clear coat just to protect it from nick's, scratches and bumps.  It can easily lie down in a van or truck or tie to D rings in a cargo van which is how I transport the observing equipment.

If you're out to purchase it all at once it's a bigger nut to buy both the ATS and an AP mount.  Add a scope and well, it can add up quickly.  Now I have converted both my Mach 1 and 1100 to the CP4.  There was no issue at all using it on the ATS Portable Pier.

By the way, I never sold the AP Portable Pier either.  It may be needed someday when I don't feel like dragging he ATS in its coffin size shipping box out to an observing site.  Ok so maybe I am a bit of a pack rat but they don't call me inspector gadget for nothing.

John A. Sillasen



Re: Having Trouble with V2 Driver

W Hilmo
 

The V2 ASCOM driver lets you connect multiple ASCOM clients.

 

The virtual ports in APCC let you connect apps to the mount natively (ie. without going through ASCOM).

 

If all the software you want to use is ASCOM compliant, then you’d be fine with just the V2 driver.  If you have software that connects directly to the mount without going through ASCOM, then you’d want the virtual ports that APCC provides.

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Having Trouble with V2 Driver

 

 

If the V2 driver had the multi-connect capability, what is the requirement for the virtual serial ports in APCC?

 

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 8:42 PM, eggerk@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

I too use the V2 driver as a hub without APCC. However I did have a problem once and I don't recollect exactly the details but all devices have to have the same administrative privileges in Windows (e.g. Run as Administrator) for all devices to connect simultaneously. There is a post somewhere from Ray pointing me in the right direction on this but I can't find it quickly. 

...Keith

 


Re: Having Trouble with V2 Driver

dave@...
 

For programs that don't use ascom. maybe you don't want to use the ap v2 ascom driver and use the native bisque driver in theskyx which connects to a com port. 


Re: Shortening the height of G11 tripod

Dean S
 

Remember that the overall foot print will be smaller as well so might possibly affect stability.

Otherwise no reason it could not be done if you have the tools.

Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: 'John Shutz' jshutz@lincolnxing.org [ap-gto]
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 3:18 AM
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Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Shortening the height of G11 tripod

Don, yes, the height is right, but leveling on uneven ground will be an issue, especially with the way my backyard slopes towards the middle where the drains are. Also, I wanted something to handle uneven ground I might find at a dark sky location.

Thanks



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John

Have you considered an AP portable pier with a 32" or possibly a 24" pier?



Don Anderson



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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:30 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Shortening the height of G11 tripod





I have a 900GTO and came to realize it is too tall to safely mount my recently purchased 11" EdgeHD SCT. To the middle of the saddle is around 54" and when the EdgeHD is fully loaded, it weighs in at around 42 lbs. I also have issues with a twice operated on left shoulder and knee (motorcycle accident), notwithstanding a broken back and pelvis too. So I've decided to look at some possible solutions.



The set up doesn't have to be as tall as it is, with an 80mm guide scope on top of the SCT the thing is 7' tall. I was wondering if anyone here has ever cut the tripod legs on their G11 tripod? I know to do so you would have to cut the inner adjustable sleeves as well, but it doesn't seem too complicated if I were to enlist the help of a machinist to do it right.



The tripod stands at around 35.6" high, I can see chopping it down by 10"-12", that would put the saddle at a comfortable mounting height. I haven't really looked at the tubes or taken it apart, just throwing this out to see if anyone else has done this. I know one drawback is the likely hood of devaluing the tripod, even if it's the older model non adjustable one. As a comparison, my CEM60EC mount/tripod is about 44" to mid saddle and that is ideal.



John











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