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Re: Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

Christopher Erickson
 

I work on a lot of scope and mounts.  I take care of most of the scopes in our local club as well as the Onizuka VIS scopes as well as a number of professional observatories and I have to say that my two small rubberized strap wrenches get used a LOT.  Everything from diagonals, knobs, eyepieces, focusers, etc.  They work great and don't damage the finish.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 10:35 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

Gary,
 
When I started reading these posts and suggestions I couldn't believe what I was seeing.  I mean, what's the problem?  If one of the knobs is too tight, you just pull out the appropriate long-handled hex-key or Allen Wrench and loosen it.  Big deal.  The AP Mach1 manual even mentions this -- and AP even included a nice set of Bondhus wrenches.
 
I was in the process of writing a smart-a__ post about this when my atrophying brain said "Better check your Mach1 before shooting off your mouth."
 
My Mach1 is currently all packed up and hard to get at, so I pulled out my field setup photos.  And there in gorgeous ink-jet color was my saddle plate showing its three tightening knobs -- each one with with a hex key socket in the middle -- just as I thought -- and just like the Mach1 clutch knobs.  No problem, just use a long handled hex key.
 
And then that same age-addled brain said, "Hey Woody, you're now using the longer saddle plate with three knobs because you hated the original short one with just two knobs.  Maybe that short one is this DOVELM2 saddle Gary is talking about.  And maybe it doesn't have those nice knobs with the hex-key sockets."
 
I never throw anything out, so I rummaged around and found my original saddle plate.  Son-of-a-gun, it has two knobs and neither one has those hex-key sockets!
 
I think most of the suggestions you got were good and workable -- particularly the small strap-wrench suggestion.  But if I were you, I'd also ask Howard if it's possible to buy a couple of the nice (and I thought standard) AP knobs with the hex-key socket in the middle and substitute those for the ones that you have.  These would be similar to the Mach1 clutch knobs.
 
The answer will probably be NO, but it doesn't hurt to ask. 
 
One of the things I didn't like about that little dovetail plate were the just two knobs and the tiny little brass wedge thingies on their ends that tighten down and hold your scope to the mount.  The longer optional plate I bought not only has three knobs and dovetail locks, but the dovetail locks themselves are very large machined and spring-loaded things that really work well.  And each of the three knobs has that hex-key socket.
 
If all else fails, you might consider the longer dovetail plate with the three dovetail locks -- and three knobs with the hex-key centers.
 
Woody
 
 
  -----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 5:45 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

 

I have a MACH1GTO with the DOVELM2 saddle plate,  At the end of the night, especially if it is cold, I have a tough time loosening the two saddle plate knobs to release the scope.  Perhaps it is because I have big old fingers, or maybe I just tighten them too much at the start of the night.  


Does anyone else have the same problem, and are there innovative ways to easily loosen them?


Thanks,

Gary


Re: AP Mother board heating up

Suresh Mohan
 

Thanks Joe ,
     Will keep an eye 
Suresh


On 15-Feb-2017, at 12:56 AM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Suresh,
 
    Hope you find the cause of any “OVER” heating, but there is a positive benefit from some slight heating inside its case, such as you found in the motherboard’s idle mode. When you had to operate the mount controller at your recent high altitude site, at night and –20C, at least the quiescent heating kept the internal electronics operating in their normal room temperature state. Other electronics might have shut down in such cold.
 
    Don’t recall if there is any provision to completely idle the (DEC) servo motor, but I assume it keeps itself warm by just its motor coils doing “station-keeping”. Of course, the RA servo is always tracking so it shouldn’t get sluggish even in very extreme cold.
 
    I assume the gear lubricants are in good condition. Perhaps a short blast of a suitable dry silicone spray directly on the worm and its worm wheel might indicate some improvement in tests. Even the AeroSHELL-33 oil “separates out”  from its binding with the lube grease component,  after aging 4 years – the warranty period for that product fresh grease. Not likely the cause here, but your operating or storage environmental conditions may have pushed the limits. However this is stretch, as this is “aircraft lube”, is designed for flying in high altitude cold and desert heat.
 
Joe


Re: AP going to Winter Star party

MCDERMOTT MICHAEL <wildwood7711@...>
 

If you go to WSP site. They have sponsors that raffle off door prizes. Meade used to do it but drop out Explore Scientific and a few others still do. Good way to get your name out there. -Mike


On Monday, February 13, 2017 8:32 PM, "Marj marj@... [ap-gto]" wrote:


 
Sponsor who?
 
Clear Skies,
 
Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Rd
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
 
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 5:01 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP going to Winter Star party
 
 
Why don't you sponsor them? 
 
 
On Monday, February 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Marj marj@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
 
Hi all,
 
George will be headed to the Winter Star Party in a few days. He is taking a 1600GTO with his 305 Honders and is hoping for some clear skies to do some imaging. It has been cloudy here for weeks.
 
Be sure that you stop by to say hello and ask any questions about our mount, APCC or other products. Since he’ll be using APCC, he can demonstrate various features for you.
 
Who else is going????
 
Clear Skies,
 
Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Rd
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
 
 



Re: Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

Woody Schlom <woody@...>
 

Gary,
 
When I started reading these posts and suggestions I couldn't believe what I was seeing.  I mean, what's the problem?  If one of the knobs is too tight, you just pull out the appropriate long-handled hex-key or Allen Wrench and loosen it.  Big deal.  The AP Mach1 manual even mentions this -- and AP even included a nice set of Bondhus wrenches.
 
I was in the process of writing a smart-a__ post about this when my atrophying brain said "Better check your Mach1 before shooting off your mouth."
 
My Mach1 is currently all packed up and hard to get at, so I pulled out my field setup photos.  And there in gorgeous ink-jet color was my saddle plate showing its three tightening knobs -- each one with with a hex key socket in the middle -- just as I thought -- and just like the Mach1 clutch knobs.  No problem, just use a long handled hex key.
 
And then that same age-addled brain said, "Hey Woody, you're now using the longer saddle plate with three knobs because you hated the original short one with just two knobs.  Maybe that short one is this DOVELM2 saddle Gary is talking about.  And maybe it doesn't have those nice knobs with the hex-key sockets."
 
I never throw anything out, so I rummaged around and found my original saddle plate.  Son-of-a-gun, it has two knobs and neither one has those hex-key sockets!
 
I think most of the suggestions you got were good and workable -- particularly the small strap-wrench suggestion.  But if I were you, I'd also ask Howard if it's possible to buy a couple of the nice (and I thought standard) AP knobs with the hex-key socket in the middle and substitute those for the ones that you have.  These would be similar to the Mach1 clutch knobs.
 
The answer will probably be NO, but it doesn't hurt to ask. 
 
One of the things I didn't like about that little dovetail plate were the just two knobs and the tiny little brass wedge thingies on their ends that tighten down and hold your scope to the mount.  The longer optional plate I bought not only has three knobs and dovetail locks, but the dovetail locks themselves are very large machined and spring-loaded things that really work well.  And each of the three knobs has that hex-key socket.
 
If all else fails, you might consider the longer dovetail plate with the three dovetail locks -- and three knobs with the hex-key centers.
 
Woody
 
 
  -----Original Message-----

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 5:45 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

 

I have a MACH1GTO with the DOVELM2 saddle plate,  At the end of the night, especially if it is cold, I have a tough time loosening the two saddle plate knobs to release the scope.  Perhaps it is because I have big old fingers, or maybe I just tighten them too much at the start of the night.  


Does anyone else have the same problem, and are there innovative ways to easily loosen them?


Thanks,

Gary


Re: Sensor/switch to Verify Mount is Parked

Lee
 

i use the same sensors SECO-LAM (Seco-Larm E-931-S35RRQ Enforcer Indoor/Outdoor Wall Mounted Photoelectric Beam Sensor with 35 Foot Range) as Dan.  Also, on an MVO controls roof system.    

your control will be different but the principle is the reflector can be used to make or break the circuit.  you want to set it up in series with your power supply to your roof motor and only when the circuit is "made" (reflector mounted on the scope is bouncing back the beam from the transmitter mounted on the wall) will you roof motor have power.   

one interesting "gotcha" i recently experienced however, the scope parked on a beautiful clear morning but the roof didn't close -- went out to the observatory and found the reflector frosted over :-o

i need to construct a little "dew shield" around it i think to prevent a recurrence.  :-)


Re: Sensor/switch to Verify Mount is Parked

Steve Reilly
 

I'm guessing that you use a Foster Systems roof controller board maybe and would be referring to the AtPark feature? For me I used two long lever arm micro switches held in place by silicon, one for each axis, wired in series going back to the AtPark connection. The lever arm is activated by means of a teflon pad cut to a house shape where the "roof" peak trips the contact when parked. The teflon pads are held in place by a spot of silicon. Very simple design and can be moved easily to use any of the "Park" positions. You could also make a velcro strap to hold both switches and reference activators (teflon). Has worked great for my for many years. The roof can't move unless both switches are made and the signal is being sent. It's the same concept as ohming a wire, the resistance indicates continuity signaling that both switches, wired on normally open contacts) are closed and the mount is parked. And then of course Stan sells these sensors as well. See http://www.fostersystems.com/viewitem.php?productid=85

Steve


Re: Sensor/switch to Verify Mount is Parked

Dan Simpson
 

I used these for my roll-off: Seco-Larm
Seco-Larm E-931-S35RRQ Enforcer Indoor/Outdoor Wall Mounted Photoelectric Beam Sensor with 35 Foot Range (2 Pack)

Got them from Amazon. Works great with my MVO opener



On Feb 14, 2017 10:55 AM, "yesavage@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi,

I have a Mach 1 and a Pier Tech Roll off Roof system with motorized pier.  I have the pier-tech equipment working but trying to find a way to put a mechanical senor/switch on the Mach 1 to verify the mount is parked.  There is an input to the pier/roof controller that can verify it is parked before lowering the pier and closing the roof. 

Has anyone hooked such a sensor up to an AP mount?????

I sorta see how I could do it, but do not want to re-invent the wheel if someone has done this already. 




Re: AP Mother board heating up

Joe Zeglinski
 

Suresh,
 
    Hope you find the cause of any “OVER” heating, but there is a positive benefit from some slight heating inside its case, such as you found in the motherboard’s idle mode. When you had to operate the mount controller at your recent high altitude site, at night and –20C, at least the quiescent heating kept the internal electronics operating in their normal room temperature state. Other electronics might have shut down in such cold.
 
    Don’t recall if there is any provision to completely idle the (DEC) servo motor, but I assume it keeps itself warm by just its motor coils doing “station-keeping”. Of course, the RA servo is always tracking so it shouldn’t get sluggish even in very extreme cold.
 
    I assume the gear lubricants are in good condition. Perhaps a short blast of a suitable dry silicone spray directly on the worm and its worm wheel might indicate some improvement in tests. Even the AeroSHELL-33 oil “separates out”  from its binding with the lube grease component,  after aging 4 years – the warranty period for that product fresh grease. Not likely the cause here, but your operating or storage environmental conditions may have pushed the limits. However this is stretch, as this is “aircraft lube”, is designed for flying in high altitude cold and desert heat.
 
Joe


Re: AP Mother board heating up

Suresh Mohan
 

Thanks Rolando ,
    I've not touched any of the gears in the box , with just the mother board being connected I do feel a temperature difference , maybe it was there all along and I've never noticed . Anyway I've slackened the mesh a bit and simply switched it on and left it for an hour , there is definetely a temp difference when compared to while switched off , but not warm like yesterday 
Regards
Suresh


On 14-Feb-2017, at 1:33 AM, Don Anderson jockey_ca@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

That's good to hear. Try re-meshing the worm and see what happens. By the way, don't use WD40 on the electrical contact or anywhere else on the mount. If you want to clean the electrical contacts only use a good electronic contact cleaner.
 
Don Anderson



From: "Suresh Mohan Neelmegh drsureshmohan@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto@...
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: AP Mother board heating up

 
Mother board shows no sign of anything heated or burnt inside , looks quite dry 
Suresh


On 13-Feb-2017, at 3:06 PM, Suresh Mohan Neelmegh <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:

Ok with no connection to the mount , the mb does show some slight warmth on the backside after 30 min
Suresh



On 13-Feb-2017, at 2:48 PM, Suresh Mohan Neelmegh <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:

No no , only the electric pin ie 12 v socket , never the gears 
Suresh


On 13-Feb-2017, at 2:41 PM, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 
WD-40 is a great penetrant, and a very-poor lubricant.  Worse, it will dissolve most greases and cause them to run out of whatever they were lubricating.
 
And it will leech into everything on the mount.
 
I would NEVER use WD-40 on any telescope mount.  EVER.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:51 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: AP Mother board heating up

Christopher ,
     My battery is free while sending current , I checked the voltage while slewing  also it was 12.9v . The one and only suspect is the tightness of the mesh . If I tighten the right side bolt ( after tightening the left with the short handle of the Allen key In my fingers )the point at which there is no play I'm able to turn the large spur gear only half turn easily whereas the Dec gear I can turn one full turn on either side easily ) today I've left it in that position and will check to see if the mb gets a Little warm . Before that I might clean the power pin with wd 40as I live in an extremely humid place
Suresh


On 13-Feb-2017, at 2:11 PM, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 
Excessive heating might also be caused if the worm mesh was too tight or if the worm lube had problems, like overheated/running out of the worm, or if the worm drive assembly was dry of lube for some other reason.  Or if a lot of grit had made it into the worm drive assembly.
 
Do you have some kind of charger attached to your 65Ah battery while you are using it to power your mount?
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 


From: Christopher Erickson [mailto:christopher.k.erickson@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 10:37 PM
To: 'ap-gto@...'
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: AP Mother board heating up

If you didn't restore the gears precisely to their previous position, you will have to re-do your PEM curve.
 
What are you using for a power supply?
 
What is the current voltage going into your servo controller?  A voltage over 15V could cause more warming of the servo chassis than usual.  As could a big imbalance of the RA axis.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 6:58 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: AP Mother board heating up

Ok it's funny that the tolerance has become so less , whereas the Dec spur gear can be rotated freely , the RA can do so for half a turn on either side , loosening a wee bit further causes a play , in fact the gear box actually moves a tiny bit when reversing east west direction at 1200x . I've left it at a point where there is no play in gear box and able to turn the spur gear freely for half a turn . Let me test tonight to see if it heats up . Question should the mother board show no increase in temperature at all ? Or is it ok to be just warm ?
Thank you
Suresh


On 12-Feb-2017, at 10:12 PM, Suresh Mohan Neelmegh <drsureshmohan@...> wrote:

Thanks Peter !!
Will do that
Suresh


On 12-Feb-2017, at 9:51 PM, pnagy@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 
Open the motor box side cover and rotate the large spur gear to make sure it's not tight. If it's tight, re-mesh the worm gears and double check the spur gears. I would load and balance the mount first before checking and re-meshing the gears.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

Today I kept my scope out in balcony , at 1200 speed both axes were sounding very laboured ; changed to 600 and worked better but DEC was stopping every 10 seconds while slewing RA did not behave that way . I had done pempro last night so wanted to check again , for some reason un related lodestar would disconnect every 10 seconds , I changed ports , re started computer and changed laptop also , same problem . I accidentally put my hand on my astrophysics main control box and found it strangely warm ( nearly hot ) I've disconnected every thing now and re connecting . I checked by 65 ah battery and it shows 13 volts
Pls guide me why this mother board of the mount appears so warm
Suresh




Sensor/switch to Verify Mount is Parked

Jerome Yesavage
 

Hi,

I have a Mach 1 and a Pier Tech Roll off Roof system with motorized pier.  I have the pier-tech equipment working but trying to find a way to put a mechanical senor/switch on the Mach 1 to verify the mount is parked.  There is an input to the pier/roof controller that can verify it is parked before lowering the pier and closing the roof. 

Has anyone hooked such a sensor up to an AP mount?????

I sorta see how I could do it, but do not want to re-invent the wheel if someone has done this already. 



Re: Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

Christopher Erickson
 

Cheap little strap wrench with a rubber strap.
 
 
I carry two in my tool bag.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2017 3:45 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

I have a MACH1GTO with the DOVELM2 saddle plate,  At the end of the night, especially if it is cold, I have a tough time loosening the two saddle plate knobs to release the scope.  Perhaps it is because I have big old fingers, or maybe I just tighten them too much at the start of the night.  


Does anyone else have the same problem, and are there innovative ways to easily loosen them?


Thanks,

Gary


Re: Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

Roland Christen
 

Rubber pad with vice grips ;^))

Rolando



-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Tue, Feb 14, 2017 8:38 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs



How about one of those rubber jar lid removers. Not the big strap things but the one you would have in the kitchen. Thin disk of rubber. Give you a better grip. 

Stuart

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 8:46 AM immgr@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
I have a MACH1GTO with the DOVELM2 saddle plate,  At the end of the night, especially if it is cold, I have a tough time loosening the two saddle plate knobs to release the scope.  Perhaps it is because I have big old fingers, or maybe I just tighten them too much at the start of the night.  

Does anyone else have the same problem, and are there innovative ways to easily loosen them?

Thanks,
Gary
--



Re: Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

Joe Zeglinski
 

Gary,
 
    Most if not all, saddle knobs have an Allen Wrench socket. Keep the appropriate wrench in your pocket, for set up and tear down of the scope. Also suggest you tie a string or old shoe lace around it, so you can easily find it when, as often the case, it falls in the snow or dark ground. Could also paint it with Luminous Paint as well (Home Depot or Michaels Crafts paints). Otherwise, putting on a rubber “dish washing glove” also gives plenty of grip.
 
Joe


Re: Anyone have a GTOCP3 for sale?

vergolder
 

Hi Ajay,


look here:


http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=940474


Price would be $450.


Regards,


Wolfgang


Re: Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

How about one of those rubber jar lid removers. Not the big strap things but the one you would have in the kitchen. Thin disk of rubber. Give you a better grip. 

Stuart

On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 8:46 AM immgr@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

I have a MACH1GTO with the DOVELM2 saddle plate,  At the end of the night, especially if it is cold, I have a tough time loosening the two saddle plate knobs to release the scope.  Perhaps it is because I have big old fingers, or maybe I just tighten them too much at the start of the night.  


Does anyone else have the same problem, and are there innovative ways to easily loosen them?


Thanks,

Gary


Loosening Saddle Plate Knobs

gary imm
 

I have a MACH1GTO with the DOVELM2 saddle plate,  At the end of the night, especially if it is cold, I have a tough time loosening the two saddle plate knobs to release the scope.  Perhaps it is because I have big old fingers, or maybe I just tighten them too much at the start of the night.  


Does anyone else have the same problem, and are there innovative ways to easily loosen them?


Thanks,

Gary


Re: Anyone have a GTOCP3 for sale?

Dan Simpson
 

Hi Ajay,
I have a GTOCP3 for sale on AstroMart, ad # 933203. It has the V2 chip. $325 shipped in the continental US.  
Dan



On Feb 13, 2017 10:56 PM, "ajynrynn@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi, I recently purchased an AP900 with a GTOCP2 controller.   I am interested in purchasing a GTOCP3 controller with the V2 chip if someone has one that is not seeing much use.  Should be in good to excellent physical shape. Please contact me off line. Thanks for looking.


Ajay

 



Anyone have a GTOCP3 for sale?

ajynrynn@...
 

Hi, I recently purchased an AP900 with a GTOCP2 controller.   I am interested in purchasing a GTOCP3 controller with the V2 chip if someone has one that is not seeing much use.  Should be in good to excellent physical shape. Please contact me off line. Thanks for looking.


Ajay

 


Re: AP going to Winter Star party

 

Sponsor who?

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2017 5:01 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] AP going to Winter Star party

 

 

Why don't you sponsor them? 

 

 

On Monday, February 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Marj marj@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi all,

 

George will be headed to the Winter Star Party in a few days. He is taking a 1600GTO with his 305 Honders and is hoping for some clear skies to do some imaging. It has been cloudy here for weeks.

 

Be sure that you stop by to say hello and ask any questions about our mount, APCC or other products. Since he’ll be using APCC, he can demonstrate various features for you.

 

Who else is going????

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

 

 


Re: AP going to Winter Star party

MCDERMOTT MICHAEL <wildwood7711@...>
 

Why don't you sponsor them? 



On Monday, February 13, 2017 4:34 PM, "Marj marj@... [ap-gto]" wrote:


 
Hi all,
 
George will be headed to the Winter Star Party in a few days. He is taking a 1600GTO with his 305 Honders and is hoping for some clear skies to do some imaging. It has been cloudy here for weeks.
 
Be sure that you stop by to say hello and ask any questions about our mount, APCC or other products. Since he’ll be using APCC, he can demonstrate various features for you.
 
Who else is going????
 
Clear Skies,
 
Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Rd
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com