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Re: So I upgraded to CP4 and...

Roland Christen
 

The date, time and location are sent to the CP4 servo every time you initialize the mount. The CP4 (or CP3) is a servo, it knows nothing about time, date, location or where any object is in the sky. All it knows is 0 - 360 for each gear wheel on the RA and Dec axis.
 
Initializing is done via an external device that has the initialization program in it. One such device is the keypad. Another such device is the AP Ascom Driver in your laptop. Another such device is Sky6 and other planetarium programs that have in their software the AP initialization software.
 
So, what is initialization, you may ask? It is simply the information that the CP servo requires in order to translate the 0 - 360 degrees of each gearwheel into the appropriate RA and DEC co-ordinates at your location, your local time and your date at that precise time.
 
Rolando
 
 

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From: 'Mike Shade' mshade@q.com [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Fri, Sep 9, 2016 4:21 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] So I upgraded to CP4 and...



As monsoon is finally starting to wane, finally upgraded from CP3 to CP4...
 
It seems that I did not have to enter anything like location and data/time, followed the instructions and it seemed to go well, which I thought odd...but have checked and rechecked and it is in the system (I think).
 
Question, basically, is this right?  Or do I need to scrub the existing data (location and time) and reenter it?  In looking at the setup data, it is all correct
 
I read somewhere that the new CP4 will NOT remember the basic data (I think) but it seems that it did, is this right?
 
Thanks...
 
Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com
Mike J. Shade Photography:
 
In War: Resolution
In Defeat: Defiance
In Victory: Magnanimity
In Peace: Goodwill
Sir Winston Churchill
Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.
Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half
a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest
Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...
Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights
 
International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org
 



So I upgraded to CP4 and...

Mike Shade
 

As monsoon is finally starting to wane, finally upgraded from CP3 to CP4...

 

It seems that I did not have to enter anything like location and data/time, followed the instructions and it seemed to go well, which I thought odd...but have checked and rechecked and it is in the system (I think).

 

Question, basically, is this right?  Or do I need to scrub the existing data (location and time) and reenter it?  In looking at the setup data, it is all correct

 

I read somewhere that the new CP4 will NOT remember the basic data (I think) but it seems that it did, is this right?

 

Thanks...

 

Mike J. Shade: mshade@q.com

Mike J. Shade Photography:

mshadephotography.com

 

In War: Resolution

In Defeat: Defiance

In Victory: Magnanimity

In Peace: Goodwill

Sir Winston Churchill

Already, in the gathering dusk, a few of the stars are turning on their lights.

Vega, the brightest one, is now dropping towards the west.  Can it be half

a year since I watched her April rising in the east?  Low in the southwest

Antares blinks a sad farwell to fall...

Leslie Peltier, Starlight Nights

 

International Dark Sky Association: www.darksky.org

 


Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

Roland Christen
 

It's not necessary for anyone if you simply Resume from Present Position. Present Position can be anywhere, even from slightly off Park1. If you are "slightly off" from Park1 but insist on Resuming from Park1, then you will be slightly off on your next slew.
 
Rolando
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: pnagy@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Fri, Sep 9, 2016 2:48 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X




Is the "double park" mentioned in any A-P manuals? For portable setup like mine, it's probably not necessary, correct?

Peter

---In ap-gto@..., wrote :

APCC has done the “double park” from the start.
 
Mag. 7 Skies!
 
Howard Hedlund
Astro-Physics, Inc.
Phone: 815-282-1513
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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:49 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X
 
 
Rolando,
 
    That “double-Park” trick is good to know. Couldn’t the APCC Park command do that anyway? Seems like a good procedure for all cases. Then again, after you just mentioned it, I was thinking that APCC was already doing something like that, when it pops up the message “Settling” after it has reached Park the first time. It does seem and indeed sound  like it is “re-Parking” itself every time.
 
Joe
 
 



Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

topboxman
 


Is the "double park" mentioned in any A-P manuals? For portable setup like mine, it's probably not necessary, correct?

Peter

---In ap-gto@..., <howard@...> wrote :

APCC has done the “double park” from the start.

 

Mag. 7 Skies!

 

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

 

 

Rolando,

 

    That “double-Park” trick is good to know. Couldn’t the APCC Park command do that anyway? Seems like a good procedure for all cases. Then again, after you just mentioned it, I was thinking that APCC was already doing something like that, when it pops up the message “Settling” after it has reached Park the first time. It does seem and indeed sound  like it is “re-Parking” itself every time.

 

Joe

 

 


Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

Howard Hedlund
 

APCC has done the “double park” from the start.

 

Mag. 7 Skies!

 

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 1:49 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

 

 

Rolando,

 

    That “double-Park” trick is good to know. Couldn’t the APCC Park command do that anyway? Seems like a good procedure for all cases. Then again, after you just mentioned it, I was thinking that APCC was already doing something like that, when it pops up the message “Settling” after it has reached Park the first time. It does seem and indeed sound  like it is “re-Parking” itself every time.

 

Joe

 

 


Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

vergolder
 

Hi all!


Many thanks for your helpful answers!!!


I will check everything tonight when i am up in my observatory.


Last night i checked the DST, it is 1 for summer. So this was correct.


I let you know....


Regards,


Wolfgang


Re: [ap-ug] Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!

Geof Lewis
 

Hi Howard,

Thanks for posting those links. I'm new to Astro-Physics, so its particularly great to 'meet' some of the team (well see their photos and read their bios). Its also great to see the superb images collected and man that 1600 GTO mounted Makutsov Cassegrain looks truly awesome....!!!

Regards,


Geof


From: ap-gto@... on behalf of Howard howard@... [ap-gto]
Sent: 09 September 2016 04:16
To: ap-ug@...; ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] RE: [ap-ug] Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!
 
 

Dave was actually glad to get the frames since conditions were good, and they were pretty nice.   They will be added to the M16 image on his website and hopefully soon also up on the LCRO website at

http://lascampanasremote.org/

We’re a little behind in updating the LCRO website, but Dave keeps his pretty fresh.

http://www.starimager.com/

 

Mag. 7 Skies!

 

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

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From: ap-ug@... [mailto:ap-ug@...]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 2:10 AM
To: ap-ug@...
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!

 

 

;D

 

So where's the image?

 

;P

 

Pete


On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Howard howard@... [ap-ug] <ap-ug@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gang,

This is just a quick anecdote to hopefully bring a smile to your faces and maybe even cause a chuckle! I was asked to swap nights with another member of our Chile team. I didn't have much time to prepare, so I simply pulled out my plan from a couple days earlier to gather more data on the same targets. I had one small problem. The moon was both brighter and stayed up longer, so I needed some extra H-alpha fill for my plan.

Having limited time, and being in a hurry, I simply went to my text format Sharpless catalog to find something at around 18 or 19 RA and below the celestial equator for a few 20 minute "filler subs. Sh2-49 looked good in terms of its size and other characteristics, so I double-checked it in Simbad. OK. It's also called Gum 83 and Mol 47, but a quick google search didn't really come up with anything. Well, what the heck. I gave it a try.

I didn't have time to look at any of the images, apart from the little preview image in the ACP web page, but it looked like it might be a pretty neat little object. Today, I downloaded the frames and then shipped them off to Dave J since I was too busy here at AP to have a look. I'm sorry to say, that my neat little discovery has been imaged a few times before. For those who haven't guessed yet, Sh2-49 is the HII region associated with M16 / NGC 6611 aka, The Eagle Nebula. Dave had such a good laugh at my expense that I thought I would share.

I hope no one loses faith in AP tech support over this!! ;^)

May your skies be clear, dark and steady!

Howard Hedlund
Technical Support and Communication
Astro-Physics, Inc.
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com<http://www.astro-physics.com/>
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Re: [ap-ug] Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!

Sam Miller
 

The LCRO website looks great! Thanks for sharing.

Sam Miller


On Sep 8, 2016, at 20:16, Howard howard@... [ap-ug] <ap-ug@...> wrote:

 

Dave was actually glad to get the frames since conditions were good, and they were pretty nice.   They will be added to the M16 image on his website and hopefully soon also up on the LCRO website at

http://lascampanasremote.org/

We’re a little behind in updating the LCRO website, but Dave keeps his pretty fresh.

http://www.starimager.com/

 

Mag. 7 Skies!

 

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.

 

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From: ap-ug@... [mailto:ap-ug@...]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 2:10 AM
To: ap-ug@...
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!

 

 

;D

 

So where's the image?

 

;P

 

Pete


On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Howard howard@... [ap-ug] <ap-ug@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gang,

This is just a quick anecdote to hopefully bring a smile to your faces and maybe even cause a chuckle! I was asked to swap nights with another member of our Chile team. I didn't have much time to prepare, so I simply pulled out my plan from a couple days earlier to gather more data on the same targets. I had one small problem. The moon was both brighter and stayed up longer, so I needed some extra H-alpha fill for my plan.

Having limited time, and being in a hurry, I simply went to my text format Sharpless catalog to find something at around 18 or 19 RA and below the celestial equator for a few 20 minute "filler subs. Sh2-49 looked good in terms of its size and other characteristics, so I double-checked it in Simbad. OK. It's also called Gum 83 and Mol 47, but a quick google search didn't really come up with anything. Well, what the heck. I gave it a try.

I didn't have time to look at any of the images, apart from the little preview image in the ACP web page, but it looked like it might be a pretty neat little object. Today, I downloaded the frames and then shipped them off to Dave J since I was too busy here at AP to have a look. I'm sorry to say, that my neat little discovery has been imaged a few times before. For those who haven't guessed yet, Sh2-49 is the HII region associated with M16 / NGC 6611 aka, The Eagle Nebula. Dave had such a good laugh at my expense that I thought I would share.

I hope no one loses faith in AP tech support over this!! ;^)

May your skies be clear, dark and steady!

Howard Hedlund
Technical Support and Communication
Astro-Physics, Inc.
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com<http://www.astro-physics.com/>
howard@...<mailto:howard@...>
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Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Daniel Calleja
 

Thanks Ray. I'll try this when I'm back from my trip and contact George if I still have issues

Thanks again

On 8/09/2016 3:44 PM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto] wrote:

Dan,

As George said earlier, you should disconnect the autoguider cable. Also, you may need to install the driver for USB for the CP4. The logs you posted show there was no connection. If you are not able to establish a connection, please review the directions for the CP4. If you still cannot establish a connection please contact A-P.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:35 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray
It's USB from laptop to CP4. Interestingly ive tried Ethernet as
well and get the
same cal outcome. But I routinely use USB. I'm very aware of the
relative quality of
cables which is why I use the one that came with the SBIG

And yes - I have the auto guider cable connected from the sti to the
cp4 autoguider
port. So the sti moving the scope for guiding

Dan

On Thursday, 8 September 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@... [ap-
gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:





Dan,

What type of cable are you using to connect your computer to the CP4?
(serial, USB, or Ethernet)

I'm sure that you know this, but you can't use the autoguider cable
to connect
the computer to the CP4.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:19 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Thanks Ray
I thought I must have interpreted that incorrectly.

On Wednesday, 7 September 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
[ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:





Hi Dan,

Well that's weird because with the extra autoguider cable in
place and
using relays it
says its moving the telescope and guiding. Are you suggesting its
actually
just
running unguided?
No, I'm not saying that at all.

Moving the telescope via an autoguider cable to the relays on the
mount
doesn't require a software connection to the mount. Your software is
connecting to
your camera (not the mount) to issue moves through the camera. When
told to be
your autoguider software your camera applies voltage to the
appropriate
pin of the
autoguider cable, which the mount senses and moves.

Using software to autoguide without the autoguider cable requires a
connection to the CP4 via its serial port, USB port, or ethernet
port. Until
you can
establish that connection with the AP V2 ASCOM driver, you will not be
able to
autoguide without the autoguider cable.

If this is still not clear, I suggest you give George or Howard a
call at A-P
today and they can explain this in more detail and lead you through a
procedure to
get you going. I won't be able to answer emails again until I am
home from
work
later today.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
<http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 5:30 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Well that's weird because with the extra autoguider cable in
place and
using relays it
says its moving the telescope and guiding. Are you suggesting its
actually
just
running unguided?

Dan

On 7/09/2016 9:04 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-
gto] wrote:




Dan,

In terms of good connections though, other than autoguiding, the
mount
works and
communicates fine in this configuration
That's wrong. From your logs it looks like it is not connecting
to the
mount,
so there is no software connection to the mount.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Thanks Ray
I'll check the com port tonight. There are no real serial
connections, it's
all
usb and
using the USB/serial converter that installs with APPC
(Eltima). I'll
check
the driver
version on that and let you know. The cables are the original
ones that
came with
the SBIG gear (and these worked fine in the same config with my
earlier
G11)

In terms of good connections though, other than autoguiding, the
mount
works and
communicates fine in this configuration

Dan

On Tuesday, 6 September 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@... [ap-
gto] <ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...>
wrote:





Hi Dan,

I think that the APCC log file shows that there was never a good
connection
to the mount. You should check the COM port number that you used,
and
if
that
looks ok, check the serial port cable. If you are using a
USB/serial
converter, you
may want to update its driver.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
<http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:32 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray
I've uploaded the files from the other night into the folder
DanC. I
wont
to
use Jing
for a while yet but here is the workflow and applications I
used (and
that
were
running) on the Mach 1

Capture Maxim DL 6.11
ASCOM 5.09.01
APPC Std 1.5.0.12 Beta
USB Hub MountHubPro 1.52 (MounthubPro is a type of powered
hub)
Pempro V2.8 build 136

Camera - Sbig STF8300M
Guider - STi
Focuser - FocusLynx

Workflow
1. Connect the MounthubPro to Laptop
2. Connect the camera and guider via separate USB's to the
hub and
from
the hub
to the laptop
3. Connect the Mach 1 via USB to the hub and power up the Mach1
and
Hub
4. Start APPC (ASCOM starts automatically)
5. Start Maxim
6. Connect cameras in Maxim
7. Connect the Mach 1 and focuser in Maxim in Observatory
control
8. Set focus in Maxim Observatory
9. Start Pempro, Connect scope and camera to Pempro - Do Drift
align
in
Pempro,
close Pempro
10. Sync on a star
11. Take a guider exposure and start calibration run (I've
tried dark
sub
on
and off
during cal)

I will use Jing as soon as I can get back out again

Thanks
Dan






On 4/09/2016 11:12 PM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
[ap-
gto]
wrote:




Hi Dan,

To proceed further, we're going to need more information.

1. Can you provide exact details of what applications you
were using,
including version numbers, and the procedure you used?

2. For documenting the procedure, you can also use the free Jing
utility
to
capture a video of what your screen shows. You can upload
the video
to
the
screencast server (you'll be asked to make a free account)
and you
can
post the link
to the video here.

3. Also, please upload your APCC and ASCOM driver logs for the
above
calibration session to the files section. If you are not
sure where the
files
are
located, then use the Log Zipper utility in APCC's tool
menu. Just
include
the files
from the last day.

4. When capturing your computer screen in the video, please
try to
show
APCC, the ASCOM driver, and whatever applications you are using.
And
of
course,
capture the setup and calibration procedure that appears not
to work.

You can download Jing from here:

https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html>
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html> >
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html>
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html> > >
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html>
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html> > >

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-
gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 5:32 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Hi Ray
I've managed to get back out again and can confirm that using
TELESCOPE
over USB vs Guide Relays still does not work. In Telescope
mode,
the
scope very very quickly (nowhere near the 15 secs I set) goes
through
a
few images and then does not move in Y. Using Guide relays
works
perfectly

Whats interesting is that after trying in TELESCOPE mode,
the rate
tracking (which was at Sidereal and 1.0x) seems to go
haywire and
I
need
to reset it back to Sidereal in APPC)

Other than that the mount works flawlessly as you can see
after
doing
a
good cal using Guide Relays.

Very puzzled!!

Dan

PS: I am now using the latest APPC Beta 1.5.0.12 but the
behavior
is
the
same

Thanks
Dan

On 16/08/2016 9:54 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
[ap-
gto]
wrote:

Daniel,

If the axes show RA/Dec moving while calibration is
active, then
that's pretty much absolute proof that it's not the
driver, APCC, or
the mount (unless an axis is slipping).

BTW, the closer you point to the celestial pole, the
shorter the RA
movement will appear in the camera. Is it possible you were
calibrating somewhere near the celestial pole?

-Ray Gralak
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Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray
I'll certainly check the guide rate (but I'm pretty
sure it's set to
1.00x). I am also fairly
sure both axes are moving too.

One other thing I tried on the same night is disconnecting
maxim
altogether and
using SkyX to guide. (I have the camera pack). The
result was
the
same - it would not
calibrate. So it's unlikely to be maxim

I'm going to try without APPC to see if thats also the
possible
cause somehow

Dan

On Monday, 15 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
[ap-gto]
<ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-
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wrote:





Hi Dan,

If the mount moves both Axes from within Maxim's Move
window,
that
shows
that Maxim can move the mount, and that there is probably
nothing
wrong with APCC
or the driver.

When you run the calibration in MaximDL, watch the RA and
Dec
values in
APCC to see if they move. If one axis doesn't move
then you
might
want to double
check the Maxim settings. It could be a setting, or a
bug in
MaximDL
6.11 (I think
6.13 is the latest).

Also, make sure your guide rate is set to 1.00x.

-Ray Gralak
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray
I've redone this test (I had actually done it before
after my
initial
post to ensure there was movement - I should have noted
that).
It
is
moving the mount (and in both axes). I can see it
moving in
APPC.

The problem however seems to be in the calibration.
It seems
to
then
only move the mount in one axis - you can see the
error here
in
the
screen capture attached from two nights ago

I've tried making the calibration time longer also
(15 and 20
secs)

Thanks

Dan

On 14/08/2016 1:00 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
[ap-
gto]
wrote:

Hi Dan,

If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings
with the
extra
cable
in the STi
(connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates
perfectly
and
guides
really well. If I
select Telescope in the guider settings,
calibration does
not
work.
I see some
small motion but then get a "star did not move
in all axes"
message.

Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
I know you say you did this but I would like you
to confirm
that
the
AP V2 Telescope driver is connected in the Observatory
window.
To do
this, switch to the Telescope tab in the
Observatory window
and
make
sure the window at the top says the mount is connected
and
the
Sidereal Tracking checkbox near the bottom is checked.

If so, then open the Camera Control window and in the
Guide
tab,
click
the "Settings" button. Please make sure that the
Autoguider
Output is
set to Control via "Telescope". Also, make sure
that the all
the
check
boxes in Guider Enables group box are checked.
Also, the
calibration
time is set for 10 seconds. Click OK, to exit the
Guider
Settings window.

Back in the Maxim's Guide tab of Camera Control,
set the
exposure to 1
second in the upper left and make sure "Expose" is
enabled
next
to the
Start button.

Click the Guide tab's "Move" button to open the Move
window.
In
the
Manual Control group box, set the time to 5
seconds. Bring
APCC
to the
front so that you can see the RA and Dec values.
Click one
of
the four
manual move buttons (X+, X-, Y+, Y-). After you
click the
button,
watch the RA/Dec values in APCC. Either RA or Dec
should
change
depending on which button you click. If the values
change
that
confims
MaximDL is moving the mount and calibration should now
work.

Please report back what you find. You can do this
during
daylight
hours by selecting the Camera simulator. The star
from the
simulated
camera exposures might not actually move in this
case, but
you
can
watch the RA/Dec values in APCC to confirm movement.

-Ray Gralak
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Ray


* Scope is Teleview NP127
* CCD is SBIG STF8300M with filter wheel and an
STi off
axis
guider
* Maxim DL 6.11
* ASCOM driver 5.09.01
* APPC 1.5.0.6 Beta


The STF8300 and STi are both connected via USB to my
laptop
via a
MountHubPro. The Mach 1 is also connected USB
via the
same
hub. I
then
startup APPC, initialize the mount from Park 3,
start
Maxim,
connect
the cameras
and then the Telescope (via Observatory control) to
Maxim.
That all
works fine

If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings
with the
extra
cable
in the STi
(connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates
perfectly
and
guides
really well. If I
select Telescope in the guider settings,
calibration does
not
work.
I see some
small motion but then get a "star did not move
in all axes"
message.

Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled

Dan



On 7/08/2016 9:32 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
[ap-gto] wrote:




I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and
maxim
DL.
So
what
setting should
I be using in maxim. I would have thought
Telescope
for
the
guider
control
but it
seems not to work
That should work just fine. Many people use that
configuration.

What behavior leads you to believe it doesn't work?

Also, please describe the equipment you are using,
including:
1. The camera, telescope, and guide scope.
2. The software, including versions numbers
(even if you
think
that
they are
the "latest").

-Ray Gralak
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Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and
maxim
DL.
So
what
setting should
I be using in maxim. I would have thought
Telescope
for
the
guider
control
but it
seems not to work

On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
[ap-gto]
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gto@...>
wrote:





Hi Dan,

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support
autoguiding via
Ethernet.

You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2
ASCOM
driver
to
do
what you want, assuming your computer is running
Windows,
and you
are
using
an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.

-Ray Gralak
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Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Hi
On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI
autoguider
via
usb to
my
laptop and
the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the
autoguider
port on the
STi. I
presume this meant that the G11 was
receiving guide
commands
via
Ethernet (it
meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4
and the
only
way I
can get
the STi to
guide is to use the autoguider port and the
additional
cable to
the STi
(so
both
USB and autoguide connections)

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support
autoguiding via
Ethernet.

Thanks
Dan
































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Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Daniel Calleja
 

George
Pretty sure I only connected the autoguider cable only after the failed attempts at getting guide via telescope to work using USB. But I will make doubly sure next time I'm out

Dan

On 8/09/2016 12:57 AM, George george@... [ap-gto] wrote:

 

Dan,

 

If you are using MaxIm’s “Guide via Telescope” you Must remove the autoguider cable…it must NOT be connected at either end.

 

Regards,

 

George

 

George Whitney

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone:  815-282-1513

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From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 7:32 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

 

 

Hi Ray
I've managed to get back out again and can confirm that using TELESCOPE
over USB vs Guide Relays still does not work. In Telescope mode, the
scope very very quickly (nowhere near the 15 secs I set) goes through a
few images and then does not move in Y. Using Guide relays works perfectly

Whats interesting is that after trying in TELESCOPE mode, the rate
tracking (which was at Sidereal and 1.0x) seems to go haywire and I need
to reset it back to Sidereal in APPC)

Other than that the mount works flawlessly as you can see after doing a
good cal using Guide Relays.

Very puzzled!!

Dan

PS: I am now using the latest APPC Beta 1.5.0.12 but the behavior is the
same

Thanks
Dan

On 16/08/2016 9:54 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto]
wrote:
>
> Daniel,
>
> If the axes show RA/Dec moving while calibration is active, then
> that's pretty much absolute proof that it's not the driver, APCC, or
> the mount (unless an axis is slipping).
>
> BTW, the closer you point to the celestial pole, the shorter the RA
> movement will appear in the camera. Is it possible you were
> calibrating somewhere near the celestial pole?
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
>
> Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:21 PM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> >
> >
> >
> > Ray
> > I'll certainly check the guide rate (but I'm pretty sure it's set to
> 1.00x). I am also fairly
> > sure both axes are moving too.
> >
> > One other thing I tried on the same night is disconnecting maxim
> altogether and
> > using SkyX to guide. (I have the camera pack). The result was the
> same - it would not
> > calibrate. So it's unlikely to be maxim
> >
> > I'm going to try without APPC to see if thats also the possible
> cause somehow
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On Monday, 15 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
> [ap-gto]
> > <ap-gto@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > If the mount moves both Axes from within Maxim's Move window, that shows
> > that Maxim can move the mount, and that there is probably nothing
> wrong with APCC
> > or the driver.
> >
> > When you run the calibration in MaximDL, watch the RA and Dec values in
> > APCC to see if they move. If one axis doesn't move then you might
> want to double
> > check the Maxim settings. It could be a setting, or a bug in MaximDL
> 6.11 (I think
> > 6.13 is the latest).
> >
> > Also, make sure your guide rate is set to 1.00x.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> <http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:44 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ray
> > > I've redone this test (I had actually done it before after my initial
> > > post to ensure there was movement - I should have noted that). It is
> > > moving the mount (and in both axes). I can see it moving in APPC.
> > >
> > > The problem however seems to be in the calibration. It seems to then
> > > only move the mount in one axis - you can see the error here in the
> > > screen capture attached from two nights ago
> > >
> > > I've tried making the calibration time longer also (15 and 20 secs)
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On 14/08/2016 1:00 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-
> > gto]
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dan,
> > > >
> > > > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra
> cable
> > > > in the STi
> > > > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and
> guides
> > > > really well. If I
> > > > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not
> work.
> > > > I see some
> > > > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes"
> message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> > > >
> > > > I know you say you did this but I would like you to confirm that the
> > > > AP V2 Telescope driver is connected in the Observatory window. To do
> > > > this, switch to the Telescope tab in the Observatory window and make
> > > > sure the window at the top says the mount is connected and the
> > > > Sidereal Tracking checkbox near the bottom is checked.
> > > >
> > > > If so, then open the Camera Control window and in the Guide tab,
> click
> > > > the "Settings" button. Please make sure that the Autoguider
> Output is
> > > > set to Control via "Telescope". Also, make sure that the all the
> check
> > > > boxes in Guider Enables group box are checked. Also, the calibration
> > > > time is set for 10 seconds. Click OK, to exit the Guider
> Settings window.
> > > >
> > > > Back in the Maxim's Guide tab of Camera Control, set the
> exposure to 1
> > > > second in the upper left and make sure "Expose" is enabled next
> to the
> > > > Start button.
> > > >
> > > > Click the Guide tab's "Move" button to open the Move window. In the
> > > > Manual Control group box, set the time to 5 seconds. Bring APCC
> to the
> > > > front so that you can see the RA and Dec values. Click one of
> the four
> > > > manual move buttons (X+, X-, Y+, Y-). After you click the button,
> > > > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC. Either RA or Dec should change
> > > > depending on which button you click. If the values change that
> confims
> > > > MaximDL is moving the mount and calibration should now work.
> > > >
> > > > Please report back what you find. You can do this during daylight
> > > > hours by selecting the Camera simulator. The star from the simulated
> > > > camera exposures might not actually move in this case, but you can
> > > > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC to confirm movement.
> > > >
> > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > > > http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> <http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> > > >
> > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:56 AM
> > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ray
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * Scope is Teleview NP127
> > > > > * CCD is SBIG STF8300M with filter wheel and an STi off axis
> guider
> > > > > * Maxim DL 6.11
> > > > > * ASCOM driver 5.09.01
> > > > > * APPC 1.5.0.6 Beta
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The STF8300 and STi are both connected via USB to my laptop via a
> > > > > MountHubPro. The Mach 1 is also connected USB via the same hub. I
> > then
> > > > > startup APPC, initialize the mount from Park 3, start Maxim,
> connect
> > > > the cameras
> > > > > and then the Telescope (via Observatory control) to Maxim.
> That all
> > > > works fine
> > > > >
> > > > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra
> cable
> > > > in the STi
> > > > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and
> guides
> > > > really well. If I
> > > > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not
> work.
> > > > I see some
> > > > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes"
> message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/08/2016 9:32 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
> > > > [ap-gto] wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
> > > > > setting should
> > > > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the
> guider
> > > > control
> > > > > but it
> > > > > > seems not to work
> > > > >
> > > > > That should work just fine. Many people use that configuration.
> > > > >
> > > > > What behavior leads you to believe it doesn't work?
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, please describe the equipment you are using, including:
> > > > > 1. The camera, telescope, and guide scope.
> > > > > 2. The software, including versions numbers (even if you think
> that
> > > > they are
> > > > > the "latest").
> > > > >
> > > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> > > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:23 AM
> > > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
> > > > > setting should
> > > > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the
> guider
> > > > control
> > > > > but it
> > > > > > seems not to work
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@...
> > > > > [ap-gto]
> > > > > > <ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Dan,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support
> autoguiding via
> > > > > > Ethernet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2 ASCOM driver
> > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > > what you want, assuming your computer is running Windows,
> and you
> > are
> > > > > using
> > > > > > an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > > > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> > > > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > > > > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
> > > > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > > > Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via
> usb to
> > my
> > > > > > laptop and
> > > > > > > the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider
> port on the
> > > > > STi. I
> > > > > > > presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands
> > via
> > > > > > Ethernet (it
> > > > > > > meant one less cable)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I
> > > > can get
> > > > > > the STi to
> > > > > > > guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional
> cable to
> > > > the STi
> > > > > (so
> > > > > > both
> > > > > > > USB and autoguide connections)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support
> autoguiding via
> > > > > > Ethernet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: [ap-ug] Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!

Howard Hedlund
 

Dave was actually glad to get the frames since conditions were good, and they were pretty nice.   They will be added to the M16 image on his website and hopefully soon also up on the LCRO website at

http://lascampanasremote.org/

We’re a little behind in updating the LCRO website, but Dave keeps his pretty fresh.

http://www.starimager.com/

 

Mag. 7 Skies!

 

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

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From: ap-ug@... [mailto:ap-ug@...]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 2:10 AM
To: ap-ug@...
Subject: Re: [ap-ug] Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!

 

 

;D

 

So where's the image?

 

;P

 

Pete


On Sep 8, 2016, at 9:35 PM, Howard howard@... [ap-ug] <ap-ug@...> wrote:

 

Hi Gang,

This is just a quick anecdote to hopefully bring a smile to your faces and maybe even cause a chuckle! I was asked to swap nights with another member of our Chile team. I didn't have much time to prepare, so I simply pulled out my plan from a couple days earlier to gather more data on the same targets. I had one small problem. The moon was both brighter and stayed up longer, so I needed some extra H-alpha fill for my plan.

Having limited time, and being in a hurry, I simply went to my text format Sharpless catalog to find something at around 18 or 19 RA and below the celestial equator for a few 20 minute "filler subs. Sh2-49 looked good in terms of its size and other characteristics, so I double-checked it in Simbad. OK. It's also called Gum 83 and Mol 47, but a quick google search didn't really come up with anything. Well, what the heck. I gave it a try.

I didn't have time to look at any of the images, apart from the little preview image in the ACP web page, but it looked like it might be a pretty neat little object. Today, I downloaded the frames and then shipped them off to Dave J since I was too busy here at AP to have a look. I'm sorry to say, that my neat little discovery has been imaged a few times before. For those who haven't guessed yet, Sh2-49 is the HII region associated with M16 / NGC 6611 aka, The Eagle Nebula. Dave had such a good laugh at my expense that I thought I would share.

I hope no one loses faith in AP tech support over this!! ;^)

May your skies be clear, dark and steady!

Howard Hedlund
Technical Support and Communication
Astro-Physics, Inc.
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com<http://www.astro-physics.com/>
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Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

Joe Zeglinski
 

Rolando,
 
    That “double-Park” trick is good to know. Couldn’t the APCC Park command do that anyway? Seems like a good procedure for all cases. Then again, after you just mentioned it, I was thinking that APCC was already doing something like that, when it pops up the message “Settling” after it has reached Park the first time. It does seem and indeed sound  like it is “re-Parking” itself every time.
 
Joe
 
 


Egg on my Face - Eagle Egg!

Howard Hedlund
 

Hi Gang,

This is just a quick anecdote to hopefully bring a smile to your faces and maybe even cause a chuckle! I was asked to swap nights with another member of our Chile team. I didn't have much time to prepare, so I simply pulled out my plan from a couple days earlier to gather more data on the same targets. I had one small problem. The moon was both brighter and stayed up longer, so I needed some extra H-alpha fill for my plan.

Having limited time, and being in a hurry, I simply went to my text format Sharpless catalog to find something at around 18 or 19 RA and below the celestial equator for a few 20 minute "filler subs. Sh2-49 looked good in terms of its size and other characteristics, so I double-checked it in Simbad. OK. It's also called Gum 83 and Mol 47, but a quick google search didn't really come up with anything. Well, what the heck. I gave it a try.

I didn't have time to look at any of the images, apart from the little preview image in the ACP web page, but it looked like it might be a pretty neat little object. Today, I downloaded the frames and then shipped them off to Dave J since I was too busy here at AP to have a look. I'm sorry to say, that my neat little discovery has been imaged a few times before. For those who haven't guessed yet, Sh2-49 is the HII region associated with M16 / NGC 6611 aka, The Eagle Nebula. Dave had such a good laugh at my expense that I thought I would share.

I hope no one loses faith in AP tech support over this!! ;^)

May your skies be clear, dark and steady!

Howard Hedlund
Technical Support and Communication
Astro-Physics, Inc.
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com<http://www.astro-physics.com/>
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Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

Greg Salyer <email@...>
 

I always wonderred why APCC does a double park. Now I know. Thanks Roland.

 

Greg

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 8:02 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

 

 

Next time you un-park the mount, DO NOT use "Resume from Park Position1". Instead, simply Resume from Present Position. If you cannot do that and you will use the "Resume from Park 1", then you must change slightly the method that you use for parking the mount, as shown below: 

 

When you park the mount, wait until the mount gets to Park1. Then send it again to Park1. The reason for this is that sometimes the mount will get to the RA Park1 position before the Dec axis gets to the DEC Park1 position. While the Dec axis is still slewing, the RA axis is still moving at the sidereal rate, so when Dec finally stops moving, the RA has gone slightly beyond Park1. By doing a double park command, the second command brings the RA back to the exact Park1 position and then you can Resume from Park1.

 

Roland Christen

aka Rolando

 


Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

Roland Christen
 

Next time you un-park the mount, DO NOT use "Resume from Park Position1". Instead, simply Resume from Present Position. If you cannot do that and you will use the "Resume from Park 1", then you must change slightly the method that you use for parking the mount, as shown below: 
 
When you park the mount, wait until the mount gets to Park1. Then send it again to Park1. The reason for this is that sometimes the mount will get to the RA Park1 position before the Dec axis gets to the DEC Park1 position. While the Dec axis is still slewing, the RA axis is still moving at the sidereal rate, so when Dec finally stops moving, the RA has gone slightly beyond Park1. By doing a double park command, the second command brings the RA back to the exact Park1 position and then you can Resume from Park1.
 
Roland Christen
aka Rolando
 

-----Original Message-----
From: vergoldermeister@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Thu, Sep 8, 2016 4:31 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X



Hi to all!

since i have changed from Sky 6 to Sky X i have some troubles when i unpark the mount and send it to a star for star sync.
I unpark from Parkpositon 1, this is the only position i can use in my observatory.

I send the mont to a star in the East via Sky X, after the mount stops, i take a photo to check if the star is visible on the CCD chip....but it is not visilble.
I always have to correct the position of the star in RA.
I checked all Settings for the mount, they are correct and also the Settings in Sky X are correct.
I also checked the Polar Alignment, also correct.

I use the latest version of the Ascom Astro Physics V2 Driver, version 5.09.01.

Any ideas????

Thanks and greetings from Austria/Europe,

Wolfgang






Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

Craig Young
 

This doesn't solve the pointing issue but what I do when I unpark my scope is slew to any spot in the sky and do an ImageLink (a single exposure @ 20seconds) then a Star Sync.  You don't have to point the scope at any particular star or adjust the scope when you get there .. simply slew, ImageLink and Star Sync.  After that the pointing accuracy will then depend on the polar alignment and other mechanical issues.  In my case, after I do my first Star Sync which can be a few arc minutes off center, pointing is now within a few arc seconds the rest of the night.  And, because this process is so easy and simple you can repeat it as often as you want.


Re: Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

Stuart
 

Wolfgang, my immediate question would be: How much do you have to move the scope? If exactly 15 degrees then I would vote that your DST setting is incorrect or you have the wrong timezone offset. 

Stuart

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 5:31 PM, vergoldermeister@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi to all!


since i have changed from Sky 6 to Sky X i have some troubles when i unpark the mount and send it to a star for star sync.

I unpark from Parkpositon 1, this is the only position i can use in my observatory.


I send the mont to a star in the East via Sky X, after the mount stops, i take a photo to check if the star is visible on the CCD chip....but it is not visilble.

I always have to correct the position of the star in RA.

I checked all Settings for the mount, they are correct and also the Settings in Sky X are correct.

I also checked the Polar Alignment, also correct.


I use the latest version of the Ascom Astro Physics V2 Driver, version 5.09.01.


Any ideas????


Thanks and greetings from Austria/Europe,


Wolfgang








Star is not on CCD chip after unparking AP1200 in Sky X

vergolder
 

Hi to all!


since i have changed from Sky 6 to Sky X i have some troubles when i unpark the mount and send it to a star for star sync.

I unpark from Parkpositon 1, this is the only position i can use in my observatory.


I send the mont to a star in the East via Sky X, after the mount stops, i take a photo to check if the star is visible on the CCD chip....but it is not visilble.

I always have to correct the position of the star in RA.

I checked all Settings for the mount, they are correct and also the Settings in Sky X are correct.

I also checked the Polar Alignment, also correct.


I use the latest version of the Ascom Astro Physics V2 Driver, version 5.09.01.


Any ideas????


Thanks and greetings from Austria/Europe,


Wolfgang





Re: NGC 6905

Alan Pryor
 

Thank you,
Alan



From: "Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto]"
To: "ap-gto@..."
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] NGC 6905



Tough looking target! Nicely done Alan!

Stuart

On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 8:55 PM, adpryor1953@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
September 4 was a clear night in Georgia (for a change).  I tried for NGC 6905.

Alan

NGC6905jpgRev1Smaller
NGC6905jpgRev1Smaller
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Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Ray Gralak
 

Dan,

As George said earlier, you should disconnect the autoguider cable. Also, you may need to install the driver for USB for the CP4. The logs you posted show there was no connection. If you are not able to establish a connection, please review the directions for the CP4. If you still cannot establish a connection please contact A-P.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

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Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:35 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray
It's USB from laptop to CP4. Interestingly ive tried Ethernet as well and get the
same cal outcome. But I routinely use USB. I'm very aware of the relative quality of
cables which is why I use the one that came with the SBIG

And yes - I have the auto guider cable connected from the sti to the cp4 autoguider
port. So the sti moving the scope for guiding

Dan

On Thursday, 8 September 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-
gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:





Dan,

What type of cable are you using to connect your computer to the CP4?
(serial, USB, or Ethernet)

I'm sure that you know this, but you can't use the autoguider cable to connect
the computer to the CP4.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 2:19 PM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
>
>
>
> Thanks Ray
> I thought I must have interpreted that incorrectly.
>
> On Wednesday, 7 September 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
> [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> > Well that's weird because with the extra autoguider cable in place and
> using relays it
> > says its moving the telescope and guiding. Are you suggesting its
actually
> just
> > running unguided?
>
> No, I'm not saying that at all.
>
> Moving the telescope via an autoguider cable to the relays on the mount
> doesn't require a software connection to the mount. Your software is
connecting to
> your camera (not the mount) to issue moves through the camera. When
told to be
> your autoguider software your camera applies voltage to the appropriate
pin of the
> autoguider cable, which the mount senses and moves.
>
> Using software to autoguide without the autoguider cable requires a
> connection to the CP4 via its serial port, USB port, or ethernet port. Until
you can
> establish that connection with the AP V2 ASCOM driver, you will not be
able to
> autoguide without the autoguider cable.
>
> If this is still not clear, I suggest you give George or Howard a call at A-P
> today and they can explain this in more detail and lead you through a
procedure to
> get you going. I won't be able to answer emails again until I am home from
work
> later today.
>
> -Ray Gralak
> Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://www.astro-
> physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
> Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 5:30 AM
> > To: ap-gto@...
> > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> >
> >
> >
> > Well that's weird because with the extra autoguider cable in place and
> using relays it
> > says its moving the telescope and guiding. Are you suggesting its
actually
> just
> > running unguided?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > On 7/09/2016 9:04 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-
> gto] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > > In terms of good connections though, other than autoguiding, the
mount
> > works and
> > > communicates fine in this configuration
> >
> > That's wrong. From your logs it looks like it is not connecting to the
mount,
> > so there is no software connection to the mount.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
> > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:21 PM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Ray
> > > I'll check the com port tonight. There are no real serial connections, it's
> all
> > usb and
> > > using the USB/serial converter that installs with APPC (Eltima). I'll
check
> > the driver
> > > version on that and let you know. The cables are the original ones that
> > came with
> > > the SBIG gear (and these worked fine in the same config with my
earlier
> > G11)
> > >
> > > In terms of good connections though, other than autoguiding, the
mount
> > works and
> > > communicates fine in this configuration
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, 6 September 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > groups3@... [ap-
> > > gto] <ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Dan,
> > >
> > > I think that the APCC log file shows that there was never a good
> connection
> > > to the mount. You should check the COM port number that you used,
and
> if
> > that
> > > looks ok, check the serial port cable. If you are using a USB/serial
> > converter, you
> > > may want to update its driver.
> > >
> > > -Ray Gralak
> > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
> > > <http://www.astro-
> > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
> > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:32 AM
> > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ray
> > > > I've uploaded the files from the other night into the folder DanC. I
wont
> to
> > > use Jing
> > > > for a while yet but here is the workflow and applications I used (and
> that
> > > were
> > > > running) on the Mach 1
> > > >
> > > > Capture Maxim DL 6.11
> > > > ASCOM 5.09.01
> > > > APPC Std 1.5.0.12 Beta
> > > > USB Hub MountHubPro 1.52 (MounthubPro is a type of powered
hub)
> > > > Pempro V2.8 build 136
> > > >
> > > > Camera - Sbig STF8300M
> > > > Guider - STi
> > > > Focuser - FocusLynx
> > > >
> > > > Workflow
> > > > 1. Connect the MounthubPro to Laptop
> > > > 2. Connect the camera and guider via separate USB's to the hub and
> > from
> > > the hub
> > > > to the laptop
> > > > 3. Connect the Mach 1 via USB to the hub and power up the Mach1
> and
> > > Hub
> > > > 4. Start APPC (ASCOM starts automatically)
> > > > 5. Start Maxim
> > > > 6. Connect cameras in Maxim
> > > > 7. Connect the Mach 1 and focuser in Maxim in Observatory control
> > > > 8. Set focus in Maxim Observatory
> > > > 9. Start Pempro, Connect scope and camera to Pempro - Do Drift
align
> > in
> > > Pempro,
> > > > close Pempro
> > > > 10. Sync on a star
> > > > 11. Take a guider exposure and start calibration run (I've tried dark
sub
> > on
> > > and off
> > > > during cal)
> > > >
> > > > I will use Jing as soon as I can get back out again
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 4/09/2016 11:12 PM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
> > [ap-
> > > gto]
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dan,
> > > >
> > > > To proceed further, we're going to need more information.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Can you provide exact details of what applications you were using,
> > > > including version numbers, and the procedure you used?
> > > >
> > > > 2. For documenting the procedure, you can also use the free Jing
utility
> > to
> > > > capture a video of what your screen shows. You can upload the video
> to
> > > the
> > > > screencast server (you'll be asked to make a free account) and you
can
> > > post the link
> > > > to the video here.
> > > >
> > > > 3. Also, please upload your APCC and ASCOM driver logs for the
> above
> > > > calibration session to the files section. If you are not sure where the
> files
> > > are
> > > > located, then use the Log Zipper utility in APCC's tool menu. Just
> include
> > > the files
> > > > from the last day.
> > > >
> > > > 4. When capturing your computer screen in the video, please try to
> show
> > > > APCC, the ASCOM driver, and whatever applications you are using.
> And
> > of
> > > course,
> > > > capture the setup and calibration procedure that appears not to work.
> > > >
> > > > You can download Jing from here:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html>
> <https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html> >
> > <https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html>
> <https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html> > > <https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html>
> <https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html
<https://www.techsmith.com/jing.html> > >
> > > >
> > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
> > >
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
> > <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
> > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-
gto@...]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2016 5:32 AM
> > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Ray
> > > > > I've managed to get back out again and can confirm that using
> > > > TELESCOPE
> > > > > over USB vs Guide Relays still does not work. In Telescope mode,
> the
> > > > > scope very very quickly (nowhere near the 15 secs I set) goes
> through
> > a
> > > > > few images and then does not move in Y. Using Guide relays
works
> > > > perfectly
> > > > >
> > > > > Whats interesting is that after trying in TELESCOPE mode, the rate
> > > > > tracking (which was at Sidereal and 1.0x) seems to go haywire and
I
> > > need
> > > > > to reset it back to Sidereal in APPC)
> > > > >
> > > > > Other than that the mount works flawlessly as you can see after
> doing
> > a
> > > > > good cal using Guide Relays.
> > > > >
> > > > > Very puzzled!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > PS: I am now using the latest APPC Beta 1.5.0.12 but the behavior
is
> > the
> > > > > same
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > > On 16/08/2016 9:54 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
> > > [ap-
> > > > gto]
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the axes show RA/Dec moving while calibration is active, then
> > > > > > that's pretty much absolute proof that it's not the driver, APCC, or
> > > > > > the mount (unless an axis is slipping).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BTW, the closer you point to the celestial pole, the shorter the RA
> > > > > > movement will appear in the camera. Is it possible you were
> > > > > > calibrating somewhere near the celestial pole?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > > > > > http://www.astro-
> > > > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
> > >
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
> > <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > > > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-
> > gto@...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:21 PM
> > > > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > > > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ray
> > > > > > > I'll certainly check the guide rate (but I'm pretty sure it's set to
> > > > > > 1.00x). I am also fairly
> > > > > > > sure both axes are moving too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One other thing I tried on the same night is disconnecting
maxim
> > > > > > altogether and
> > > > > > > using SkyX to guide. (I have the camera pack). The result was
> the
> > > > > > same - it would not
> > > > > > > calibrate. So it's unlikely to be maxim
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm going to try without APPC to see if thats also the possible
> > > > > > cause somehow
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Monday, 15 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > > > groups3@...
> > > > > > [ap-gto]
> > > > > > > <ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-
> gto@...>
> > <mailto:ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Dan,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If the mount moves both Axes from within Maxim's Move
window,
> > > that
> > > > shows
> > > > > > > that Maxim can move the mount, and that there is probably
> nothing
> > > > > > wrong with APCC
> > > > > > > or the driver.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you run the calibration in MaximDL, watch the RA and
Dec
> > > > values in
> > > > > > > APCC to see if they move. If one axis doesn't move then you
> might
> > > > > > want to double
> > > > > > > check the Maxim settings. It could be a setting, or a bug in
> > MaximDL
> > > > > > 6.11 (I think
> > > > > > > 6.13 is the latest).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, make sure your guide rate is set to 1.00x.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > http://www.astro-
> > > > > > >
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
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> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
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> > >
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<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > >
> > > > > > <http://www.astro-
> > > > > > >
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
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<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> >
> > >
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<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> <http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc> > > >
> > > > > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > > > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-
> > > gto@...]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:44 AM
> > > > > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ray
> > > > > > > > I've redone this test (I had actually done it before after my
initial
> > > > > > > > post to ensure there was movement - I should have noted
that).
> It
> > > is
> > > > > > > > moving the mount (and in both axes). I can see it moving in
> > APPC.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The problem however seems to be in the calibration. It seems
> to
> > > then
> > > > > > > > only move the mount in one axis - you can see the error here
in
> > the
> > > > > > > > screen capture attached from two nights ago
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've tried making the calibration time longer also (15 and 20
> secs)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 14/08/2016 1:00 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > > groups3@...
> > > > [ap-
> > > > > > > gto]
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Dan,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the
extra
> > > > > > cable
> > > > > > > > > in the STi
> > > > > > > > > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly
and
> > > > > > guides
> > > > > > > > > really well. If I
> > > > > > > > > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does
not
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > > > > > I see some
> > > > > > > > > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes"
> > > > > > message.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know you say you did this but I would like you to confirm
> that
> > > the
> > > > > > > > > AP V2 Telescope driver is connected in the Observatory
> > window.
> > > > To do
> > > > > > > > > this, switch to the Telescope tab in the Observatory window
> > and
> > > > make
> > > > > > > > > sure the window at the top says the mount is connected
and
> > the
> > > > > > > > > Sidereal Tracking checkbox near the bottom is checked.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If so, then open the Camera Control window and in the
Guide
> > > tab,
> > > > > > click
> > > > > > > > > the "Settings" button. Please make sure that the Autoguider
> > > > > > Output is
> > > > > > > > > set to Control via "Telescope". Also, make sure that the all
> the
> > > > > > check
> > > > > > > > > boxes in Guider Enables group box are checked. Also, the
> > > > calibration
> > > > > > > > > time is set for 10 seconds. Click OK, to exit the Guider
> > > > > > Settings window.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Back in the Maxim's Guide tab of Camera Control, set the
> > > > > > exposure to 1
> > > > > > > > > second in the upper left and make sure "Expose" is enabled
> > next
> > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > Start button.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Click the Guide tab's "Move" button to open the Move
> window.
> > In
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > Manual Control group box, set the time to 5 seconds. Bring
> > > APCC
> > > > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > front so that you can see the RA and Dec values. Click one
of
> > > > > > the four
> > > > > > > > > manual move buttons (X+, X-, Y+, Y-). After you click the
> > button,
> > > > > > > > > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC. Either RA or Dec
should
> > > > change
> > > > > > > > > depending on which button you click. If the values change
> that
> > > > > > confims
> > > > > > > > > MaximDL is moving the mount and calibration should now
> > work.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please report back what you find. You can do this during
> > daylight
> > > > > > > > > hours by selecting the Camera simulator. The star from the
> > > > simulated
> > > > > > > > > camera exposures might not actually move in this case, but
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > > > > > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC to confirm movement.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > > > > > > > > http://www.astro-
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-
> > > > gto@...]
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:56 AM
> > > > > > > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ray
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > * Scope is Teleview NP127
> > > > > > > > > > * CCD is SBIG STF8300M with filter wheel and an STi off
> > axis
> > > > > > guider
> > > > > > > > > > * Maxim DL 6.11
> > > > > > > > > > * ASCOM driver 5.09.01
> > > > > > > > > > * APPC 1.5.0.6 Beta
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The STF8300 and STi are both connected via USB to my
> > > laptop
> > > > via a
> > > > > > > > > > MountHubPro. The Mach 1 is also connected USB via the
> > > same
> > > > hub. I
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > startup APPC, initialize the mount from Park 3, start
> Maxim,
> > > > > > connect
> > > > > > > > > the cameras
> > > > > > > > > > and then the Telescope (via Observatory control) to
Maxim.
> > > > > > That all
> > > > > > > > > works fine
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the
extra
> > > > > > cable
> > > > > > > > > in the STi
> > > > > > > > > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly
and
> > > > > > guides
> > > > > > > > > really well. If I
> > > > > > > > > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does
not
> > > > > > work.
> > > > > > > > > I see some
> > > > > > > > > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes"
> > > > > > message.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 7/08/2016 9:32 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > > > groups3@...
> > > > > > > > > [ap-gto] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim
> DL.
> > > So
> > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > setting should
> > > > > > > > > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope
for
> the
> > > > > > guider
> > > > > > > > > control
> > > > > > > > > > but it
> > > > > > > > > > > seems not to work
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > That should work just fine. Many people use that
> > configuration.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What behavior leads you to believe it doesn't work?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, please describe the equipment you are using,
> including:
> > > > > > > > > > 1. The camera, telescope, and guide scope.
> > > > > > > > > > 2. The software, including versions numbers (even if you
> > think
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > they are
> > > > > > > > > > the "latest").
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > > > http://www.astro-
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
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> > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-
> > > > gto@...]
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:23 AM
> > > > > > > > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim
> DL.
> > > So
> > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > setting should
> > > > > > > > > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope
for
> the
> > > > > > guider
> > > > > > > > > control
> > > > > > > > > > but it
> > > > > > > > > > > seems not to work
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
> > > > > > > groups3@...
> > > > > > > > > > [ap-gto]
> > > > > > > > > > > <ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-
> > gto@...> <mailto:ap-
> > > > gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...>
> > <mailto:ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-
> > > > gto@...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dan,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support
> > > > > > autoguiding via
> > > > > > > > > > > Ethernet.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2
> > > ASCOM
> > > > driver
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > what you want, assuming your computer is running
> > Windows,
> > > > > > and you
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > > > an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > > > > > > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > > > http://www.astro-
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
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> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-
> > > > gto@...]
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > > > > > > > On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI
> autoguider
> > > via
> > > > > > usb to
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > laptop and
> > > > > > > > > > > > the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the
> autoguider
> > > > > > port on the
> > > > > > > > > > STi. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide
> > > > commands
> > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > > Ethernet (it
> > > > > > > > > > > > meant one less cable)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the
> only
> > > > way I
> > > > > > > > > can get
> > > > > > > > > > > the STi to
> > > > > > > > > > > > guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional
> > > > > > cable to
> > > > > > > > > the STi
> > > > > > > > > > (so
> > > > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > > USB and autoguide connections)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support
> > > > > > autoguiding via
> > > > > > > > > > > Ethernet.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > Dan
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