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Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Ray Gralak
 

Daniel,

If the axes show RA/Dec moving while calibration is active, then that's pretty much absolute proof that it's not the driver, APCC, or the mount (unless an axis is slipping).

BTW, the closer you point to the celestial pole, the shorter the RA movement will appear in the camera. Is it possible you were calibrating somewhere near the celestial pole?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 2:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray
I'll certainly check the guide rate (but I'm pretty sure it's set to 1.00x). I am also fairly
sure both axes are moving too.

One other thing I tried on the same night is disconnecting maxim altogether and
using SkyX to guide. (I have the camera pack). The result was the same - it would not
calibrate. So it's unlikely to be maxim

I'm going to try without APPC to see if thats also the possible cause somehow

Dan

On Monday, 15 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto]
<ap-gto@...> wrote:





Hi Dan,

If the mount moves both Axes from within Maxim's Move window, that shows
that Maxim can move the mount, and that there is probably nothing wrong with APCC
or the driver.

When you run the calibration in MaximDL, watch the RA and Dec values in
APCC to see if they move. If one axis doesn't move then you might want to double
check the Maxim settings. It could be a setting, or a bug in MaximDL 6.11 (I think
6.13 is the latest).

Also, make sure your guide rate is set to 1.00x.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc <http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:44 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
>
>
>
> Ray
> I've redone this test (I had actually done it before after my initial
> post to ensure there was movement - I should have noted that). It is
> moving the mount (and in both axes). I can see it moving in APPC.
>
> The problem however seems to be in the calibration. It seems to then
> only move the mount in one axis - you can see the error here in the
> screen capture attached from two nights ago
>
> I've tried making the calibration time longer also (15 and 20 secs)
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
>
> On 14/08/2016 1:00 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-
gto]
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
> > in the STi
> > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
> > really well. If I
> > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
> > I see some
> > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.
> > >
> > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> >
> > I know you say you did this but I would like you to confirm that the
> > AP V2 Telescope driver is connected in the Observatory window. To do
> > this, switch to the Telescope tab in the Observatory window and make
> > sure the window at the top says the mount is connected and the
> > Sidereal Tracking checkbox near the bottom is checked.
> >
> > If so, then open the Camera Control window and in the Guide tab, click
> > the "Settings" button. Please make sure that the Autoguider Output is
> > set to Control via "Telescope". Also, make sure that the all the check
> > boxes in Guider Enables group box are checked. Also, the calibration
> > time is set for 10 seconds. Click OK, to exit the Guider Settings window.
> >
> > Back in the Maxim's Guide tab of Camera Control, set the exposure to 1
> > second in the upper left and make sure "Expose" is enabled next to the
> > Start button.
> >
> > Click the Guide tab's "Move" button to open the Move window. In the
> > Manual Control group box, set the time to 5 seconds. Bring APCC to the
> > front so that you can see the RA and Dec values. Click one of the four
> > manual move buttons (X+, X-, Y+, Y-). After you click the button,
> > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC. Either RA or Dec should change
> > depending on which button you click. If the values change that confims
> > MaximDL is moving the mount and calibration should now work.
> >
> > Please report back what you find. You can do this during daylight
> > hours by selecting the Camera simulator. The star from the simulated
> > camera exposures might not actually move in this case, but you can
> > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC to confirm movement.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc <http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> >
> > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:56 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > > * Scope is Teleview NP127
> > > * CCD is SBIG STF8300M with filter wheel and an STi off axis guider
> > > * Maxim DL 6.11
> > > * ASCOM driver 5.09.01
> > > * APPC 1.5.0.6 Beta
> > >
> > >
> > > The STF8300 and STi are both connected via USB to my laptop via a
> > > MountHubPro. The Mach 1 is also connected USB via the same hub. I
then
> > > startup APPC, initialize the mount from Park 3, start Maxim, connect
> > the cameras
> > > and then the Telescope (via Observatory control) to Maxim. That all
> > works fine
> > >
> > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
> > in the STi
> > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
> > really well. If I
> > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
> > I see some
> > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.
> > >
> > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/08/2016 9:32 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
> > [ap-gto] wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
> > > setting should
> > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
> > control
> > > but it
> > > > seems not to work
> > >
> > > That should work just fine. Many people use that configuration.
> > >
> > > What behavior leads you to believe it doesn't work?
> > >
> > > Also, please describe the equipment you are using, including:
> > > 1. The camera, telescope, and guide scope.
> > > 2. The software, including versions numbers (even if you think that
> > they are
> > > the "latest").
> > >
> > > -Ray Gralak
> > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:23 AM
> > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
> > > setting should
> > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
> > control
> > > but it
> > > > seems not to work
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)'
groups3@...
> > > [ap-gto]
> > > > <ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dan,
> > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
> > > > Ethernet.
> > > >
> > > > You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2 ASCOM driver
to
> > > do
> > > > what you want, assuming your computer is running Windows, and you
are
> > > using
> > > > an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.
> > > >
> > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
<http://physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc>
> > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
> > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to
my
> > > > laptop and
> > > > > the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the
> > > STi. I
> > > > > presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands
via
> > > > Ethernet (it
> > > > > meant one less cable)
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I
> > can get
> > > > the STi to
> > > > > guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to
> > the STi
> > > (so
> > > > both
> > > > > USB and autoguide connections)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
> > > > Ethernet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>




Re: APCC Meridian Limits - tracking only?

Howard Hedlund
 

The meridian limits are best considered as tracking limits.  This is especially the case if you are using other observatory control software like ACP or CCDAP.   These programs do not yet work with the meridian delay logic in AP mounts and APCC.

 

If you are using APCC independently, you can activate the logic to take advantage of the meridian limits by slewing into “safe” CW up positions to start an image ahead of the meridian.  Likewise, this same logic can be used to continue imaging past the meridian without having dither moves or short autofocus slews initiate a flip.  These features are a safety measure involving both slewing and  the meridian limits.

 

However, the meridian limits are not the same as the limits found in the Home and Limits Tab.   This is what you want to use for absolute safety of your equipment, and to prevent pier crashes.   The Home and Limits tab is found in APCC v.1.5.x.x.   You will not have it if you still use the 1.0.3.4.

 

Mag. 7 Skies!

 

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

Phone: 815-282-1513

www.astro-physics.com

Please include this e-mail with your response.

 

P Consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 15:25
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] APCC Meridian Limits - tracking only?

 

 

Do the APCC Meridian Limits only apply when tracking, or do they also apply when slewing?

 

The first sentence below in the APCC user guide makes it sound like they apply to both, but the second sentence makes it sound like they are tracking limits only:

 

"The Meridian Limits, are primarily tracking limits in the west, and counterweight-up slewing guides for APCC's advanced slew logic in the east.

They will NOT prevent you from slewing into your pier with an incorrect slew, or from running into the pier with direction buttons."

 

Are the key words in that statement "limits" and "guides", i.e., "tracking limits" are enforced by APCC but "slewing guides" aren't?


Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Daniel Calleja
 

Ray
I'll certainly check the guide rate (but I'm pretty sure it's set to 1.00x). I am also fairly sure both axes are moving too.

One other thing I tried on the same night is disconnecting maxim altogether and using SkyX to guide. (I have the camera pack). The result was the same - it would not calibrate. So it's unlikely to be maxim 

I'm going to try without APPC to see if thats also the possible cause somehow

Dan 


On Monday, 15 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Dan,

If the mount moves both Axes from within Maxim's Move window, that shows that Maxim can move the mount, and that there is probably nothing wrong with APCC or the driver.

When you run the calibration in MaximDL, watch the RA and Dec values in APCC to see if they move. If one axis doesn't move then you might want to double check the Maxim settings. It could be a setting, or a bug in MaximDL 6.11 (I think 6.13 is the latest).

Also, make sure your guide rate is set to 1.00x.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:44 AM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
>
>
>
> Ray
> I've redone this test (I had actually done it before after my initial
> post to ensure there was movement - I should have noted that). It is
> moving the mount (and in both axes). I can see it moving in APPC.
>
> The problem however seems to be in the calibration. It seems to then
> only move the mount in one axis - you can see the error here in the
> screen capture attached from two nights ago
>
> I've tried making the calibration time longer also (15 and 20 secs)
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan
>
> On 14/08/2016 1:00 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto]
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dan,
> >
> > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
> > in the STi
> > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
> > really well. If I
> > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
> > I see some
> > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.
> > >
> > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> >
> > I know you say you did this but I would like you to confirm that the
> > AP V2 Telescope driver is connected in the Observatory window. To do
> > this, switch to the Telescope tab in the Observatory window and make
> > sure the window at the top says the mount is connected and the
> > Sidereal Tracking checkbox near the bottom is checked.
> >
> > If so, then open the Camera Control window and in the Guide tab, click
> > the "Settings" button. Please make sure that the Autoguider Output is
> > set to Control via "Telescope". Also, make sure that the all the check
> > boxes in Guider Enables group box are checked. Also, the calibration
> > time is set for 10 seconds. Click OK, to exit the Guider Settings window.
> >
> > Back in the Maxim's Guide tab of Camera Control, set the exposure to 1
> > second in the upper left and make sure "Expose" is enabled next to the
> > Start button.
> >
> > Click the Guide tab's "Move" button to open the Move window. In the
> > Manual Control group box, set the time to 5 seconds. Bring APCC to the
> > front so that you can see the RA and Dec values. Click one of the four
> > manual move buttons (X+, X-, Y+, Y-). After you click the button,
> > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC. Either RA or Dec should change
> > depending on which button you click. If the values change that confims
> > MaximDL is moving the mount and calibration should now work.
> >
> > Please report back what you find. You can do this during daylight
> > hours by selecting the Camera simulator. The star from the simulated
> > camera exposures might not actually move in this case, but you can
> > watch the RA/Dec values in APCC to confirm movement.
> >
> > -Ray Gralak
> > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
> > http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> >
> > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:56 AM
> > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ray
> > >
> > >
> > > * Scope is Teleview NP127
> > > * CCD is SBIG STF8300M with filter wheel and an STi off axis guider
> > > * Maxim DL 6.11
> > > * ASCOM driver 5.09.01
> > > * APPC 1.5.0.6 Beta
> > >
> > >
> > > The STF8300 and STi are both connected via USB to my laptop via a
> > > MountHubPro. The Mach 1 is also connected USB via the same hub. I then
> > > startup APPC, initialize the mount from Park 3, start Maxim, connect
> > the cameras
> > > and then the Telescope (via Observatory control) to Maxim. That all
> > works fine
> > >
> > > If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
> > in the STi
> > > (connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
> > really well. If I
> > > select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
> > I see some
> > > small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.
> > >
> > > Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/08/2016 9:32 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
> > [ap-gto] wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
> > > setting should
> > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
> > control
> > > but it
> > > > seems not to work
> > >
> > > That should work just fine. Many people use that configuration.
> > >
> > > What behavior leads you to believe it doesn't work?
> > >
> > > Also, please describe the equipment you are using, including:
> > > 1. The camera, telescope, and guide scope.
> > > 2. The software, including versions numbers (even if you think that
> > they are
> > > the "latest").
> > >
> > > -Ray Gralak
> > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:23 AM
> > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
> > > setting should
> > > > I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
> > control
> > > but it
> > > > seems not to work
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
> > > [ap-gto]
> > > > <ap-gto@...> ap-gto@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dan,
> > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
> > > > Ethernet.
> > > >
> > > > You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2 ASCOM driver to
> > > do
> > > > what you want, assuming your computer is running Windows, and you are
> > > using
> > > > an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.
> > > >
> > > > -Ray Gralak
> > > > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
> > > > physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
> > > > Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
> > > > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
> > > http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
> > > > Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
> > > > Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
> > > > > To: ap-gto@...
> > > > > Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > > On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my
> > > > laptop and
> > > > > the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the
> > > STi. I
> > > > > presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via
> > > > Ethernet (it
> > > > > meant one less cable)
> > > > >
> > > > > I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I
> > can get
> > > > the STi to
> > > > > guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to
> > the STi
> > > (so
> > > > both
> > > > > USB and autoguide connections)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
> > > > Ethernet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>


APCC Meridian Limits - tracking only?

naperastro@...
 

Do the APCC Meridian Limits only apply when tracking, or do they also apply when slewing?


The first sentence below in the APCC user guide makes it sound like they apply to both, but the second sentence makes it sound like they are tracking limits only:


"The Meridian Limits, are primarily tracking limits in the west, and counterweight-up slewing guides for APCC's advanced slew logic in the east.

They will NOT prevent you from slewing into your pier with an incorrect slew, or from running into the pier with direction buttons."


Are the key words in that statement "limits" and "guides", i.e., "tracking limits" are enforced by APCC but "slewing guides" aren't?


Meridian limits and need to be "hands on"

naperastro@...
 

Looking at the newest APCC manual version 1.5.0.6, I'm confused by what appear to be conflicting statements regarding meridian tracking limits and the need to be "hands on" or not.


On page 119 of section 5.3 it says "APCC creates meridian limits that can allow the user to safely exceed the meridian without hovering over the mount to protect the scope and imaging equipment from a potential crash. Remotely controlled observatories can now also safely image through the meridian (where declination permits it)."


However, the next page has a warning in yellow (referring to the "East Limits" and "West Limits" checkboxes for "Counterweight Up Slews within": "NOTE: The following two checkboxes should ONLY be checked if you are using your mount "hands on". At the present time, automation software has not been written to fully accommodate these features in APCC. Programs like ACP and CCDAutoPilot cannot yet take full advantage of these capabilities. This will require cooperative development between the respective software developers.


DO NOT check these options if operating remotely via ACP or CCDAP! A Warning box will appear when these boxes are checked to help prevent problems."


If I understand correct, this is saying Meridian Tracking Limits are safe to use without being there only if the mount doesn't start on the east side with counterweights up (i.e., the East Limits box isn't checked).

If that's correct, does that mean without those checkboxes checked, tracking can start in the east with counterweights down and continue past the meridian until the west meridian limit is reached without a pier flip?  So the "East Limits" checkbox basically allows additional tracking time without a flip by starting earlier in the east, i.e., with counterweight up?






Re: installing previous version of APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Ok, thanks. I'll take a look tonight.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 11:06 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] installing previous version of APCC



Ok here is everything I hope and the ACP log too



https://1drv.ms/f/s!AkP-onLZLeuogscDh7OIb88lT-6geQ

Right now I need to leave meridian limits off to verify that it is fixed




Re: GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

 

Just to be clear to anyone following this thread, the APAE utility is ONLY for mounts that have absolute encoders.

 

If you have received a GTOCP4 for your mount that has absolute encoders and did not receive the CD, please let us know.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 12:18 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] RE: GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

 

 

Hi Chris,

 

I just sent an email to you privately with a link to a Dropbox folder that has the zip file. Apparently, the shipment of your GTOCP4 did not include the CD as it should have. We will send that to you, as well. I apologize for the inconvenience.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 10:57 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

 

 

Thank Roland,

 

       The APAE encoder Utility I have is the original v1.0 before the GTOCP4 existed, and the documentation (page 15) states that "You must have the latest version to recognize the GTOCP4". Is this older version 1.0 compatible with the GTCOCP4? (Updated versions of the APAE utility do not appear available for download from the AP site)

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

 

The status lights indicate that the encoder is working properly, but does not indicate that the encoders are turned on in the CP4. To do that, simply run the encoder utility and set your encoders on and set the home and limits that you want. It is a one time operation that will set the encoder status inside the CP4, and you won't have to run it again.

 

Rolando

 

-----Original Message-----
From: cford81@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

 

I just mounted my new GTOCP4 on my AP1600GTO today. I also took advantage of the 30% offer and installed APCC on my POC also. So far, it all seems to hang together and I am starting to explore.

 

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

 

I have a version 1.0 of the APAE utility on an (old school) CD that was shipped to me when I purchased my AP1600GTO a few years ago, but the documentation says the newest version is needed with the GTOCP4 but it does not seem to be available online. The documentation only says that a future version of APCC will integrate the APAE utility.

 

Has anyone with absolute enco der mounts got the GTOCP4 working with the latest version of the existing APAE utility? (And what version number is it and where did you get it from)

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: installing previous version of APCC

cluster@...
 

Ok here is everything I hope and the ACP log too




Right now I need to leave meridian limits off to verify that it is fixed
 


Re: Disengaging the Worm on Mach 1

Andrew Arai
 

Everything was fixed with a minor adjustment by phone. Thanks to George and Marj for great customer support.

Andrew


Re: GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

 

Hi Chris,

 

I just sent an email to you privately with a link to a Dropbox folder that has the zip file. Apparently, the shipment of your GTOCP4 did not include the CD as it should have. We will send that to you, as well. I apologize for the inconvenience.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 10:57 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

 

 

Thank Roland,

 

       The APAE encoder Utility I have is the original v1.0 before the GTOCP4 existed, and the documentation (page 15) states that "You must have the latest version to recognize the GTOCP4". Is this older version 1.0 compatible with the GTCOCP4? (Updated versions of the APAE utility do not appear available for download from the AP site)

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

 

The status lights indicate that the encoder is working properly, but does not indicate that the encoders are turned on in the CP4. To do that, simply run the encoder utility and set your encoders on and set the home and limits that you want. It is a one time operation that will set the encoder status inside the CP4, and you won't have to run it again.

 

Rolando

 

-----Original Message-----
From: cford81@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

 

I just mounted my new GTOCP4 on my AP1600GTO today. I also took advantage of the 30% offer and installed APCC on my POC also. So far, it all seems to hang together and I am starting to explore.

 

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

 

I have a version 1.0 of the APAE utility on an (old school) CD that was shipped to me when I purchased my AP1600GTO a few years ago, but the documentation says the newest version is needed with the GTOCP4 but it does not seem to be available online. The documentation only says that a future version of APCC will integrate the APAE utility.

 

Has anyone with absolute enco der mounts got the GTOCP4 working with the latest version of the existing APAE utility? (And what version number is it and where did you get it from)

 

Chris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

Roland Christen
 

Marj will answer you and get you the software.
 
Rolando
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: cford81@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Mon, Aug 15, 2016 10:57 am
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?



Thank Roland,

       The APAE encoder Utility I have is the original v1.0 before the GTOCP4 existed, and the documentation (page 15) states that "You must have the latest version to recognize the GTOCP4". Is this older version 1.0 compatible with the GTCOCP4? (Updated versions of the APAE utility do not appear available for download from the AP site)

Chris



 
The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)
 
The status lights indicate that the encoder is working properly, but does not indicate that the encoders are turned on in the CP4. To do that, simply run the encoder utility and set your encoders on and set the home and limits that you want. It is a one time operation that will set the encoder status inside the CP4, and you won't have to run it again.
 
Rolando
 
-----Original Message-----
From: cford81@... [ap-gto] gto@...>
To: ap-gto gto@...>
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?



I just mounted my new GTOCP4 on my AP1600GTO today. I also took advantage of the 30% offer and installed APCC on my POC also. So far, it all seems to hang together and I am starting to explore.

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

I have a version 1.0 of the APAE utility on an (old school) CD that was shipped to me when I purchased my AP1600GTO a few years ago, but the documentation says the newest version is needed with the GTOCP4 but it does not seem to be available online. The documentation only says that a future version of APCC will integrate the APAE utility.

Has anyone with a bsolute enco der mounts got the GTOCP4 working with the latest version of the existing APAE utility? (And what version number is it and where did you get it from)

Chris











Re: GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

cford81@...
 

Thank Roland,

       The APAE encoder Utility I have is the original v1.0 before the GTOCP4 existed, and the documentation (page 15) states that "You must have the latest version to recognize the GTOCP4". Is this older version 1.0 compatible with the GTCOCP4? (Updated versions of the APAE utility do not appear available for download from the AP site)

Chris



 
The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)
 
The status lights indicate that the encoder is working properly, but does not indicate that the encoders are turned on in the CP4. To do that, simply run the encoder utility and set your encoders on and set the home and limits that you want. It is a one time operation that will set the encoder status inside the CP4, and you won't have to run it again.
 
Rolando
 
-----Original Message-----
From: cford81@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?



I just mounted my new GTOCP4 on my AP1600GTO today. I also took advantage of the 30% offer and installed APCC on my POC also. So far, it all seems to hang together and I am starting to explore.

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

I have a version 1.0 of the APAE utility on an (old school) CD that was shipped to me when I purchased my AP1600GTO a few years ago, but the documentation says the newest version is needed with the GTOCP4 but it does not seem to be available online. The documentation only says that a future version of APCC will integrate the APAE utility.

Has anyone with absolute enco der mounts got the GTOCP4 working with the latest version of the existing APAE utility? (And what version number is it and where did you get it from)

Chris









Re: installing previous version of APCC

Ray Gralak
 

There are two different log zippers. One is in APCC. The other is in APPM, which you should have since you have APCC Pro. The log zipper in APPM is more extensive.

I would like to see the logs so that I may try to identify the problem. You can also copy the logs directly from the logs directory. You can identify the appropriate logs by the date/time in the filename.

Thanks,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 8:06 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] installing previous version of APCC



I used the apzipper before, it kept saying it could not add files to the zip so I am not
surprised. I will try it again. Last night it worked fine but I did have the limits
disabled. I don't really need them I guess because the automation should work. It
is when something else goes wrong and the mount wants to keep tracking. I will try
again the zipper and see if it works this time.


Re: GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

Roland Christen
 

 
The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)
 
The status lights indicate that the encoder is working properly, but does not indicate that the encoders are turned on in the CP4. To do that, simply run the encoder utility and set your encoders on and set the home and limits that you want. It is a one time operation that will set the encoder status inside the CP4, and you won't have to run it again.
 
Rolando
 
-----Original Message-----
From: cford81@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sun, Aug 14, 2016 10:36 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] GTOCP4 and latest APAE?



I just mounted my new GTOCP4 on my AP1600GTO today. I also took advantage of the 30% offer and installed APCC on my POC also. So far, it all seems to hang together and I am starting to explore.

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

I have a version 1.0 of the APAE utility on an (old school) CD that was shipped to me when I purchased my AP1600GTO a few years ago, but the documentation says the newest version is needed with the GTOCP4 but it does not seem to be available online. The documentation only says that a future version of APCC will integrate the APAE utility.

Has anyone with absolute enco der mounts got the GTOCP4 working with the latest version of the existing APAE utility? (And what version number is it and where did you get it from)

Chris






Re: installing previous version of APCC

cluster@...
 

I used the apzipper before, it kept saying it could not add files to the zip so I am not surprised.   I will try it again.  Last night it worked fine but I did have the limits disabled.   I don't really need them I guess because the automation should work.  It is when something else goes wrong and the mount wants to keep tracking.  I will try again the zipper and see if it works this time.    


Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Dan,

If the mount moves both Axes from within Maxim's Move window, that shows that Maxim can move the mount, and that there is probably nothing wrong with APCC or the driver.

When you run the calibration in MaximDL, watch the RA and Dec values in APCC to see if they move. If one axis doesn't move then you might want to double check the Maxim settings. It could be a setting, or a bug in MaximDL 6.11 (I think 6.13 is the latest).

Also, make sure your guide rate is set to 1.00x.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 1:44 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray
I've redone this test (I had actually done it before after my initial
post to ensure there was movement - I should have noted that). It is
moving the mount (and in both axes). I can see it moving in APPC.

The problem however seems to be in the calibration. It seems to then
only move the mount in one axis - you can see the error here in the
screen capture attached from two nights ago

I've tried making the calibration time longer also (15 and 20 secs)

Thanks

Dan

On 14/08/2016 1:00 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto]
wrote:

Hi Dan,

If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
in the STi
(connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
really well. If I
select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
I see some
small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.

Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
I know you say you did this but I would like you to confirm that the
AP V2 Telescope driver is connected in the Observatory window. To do
this, switch to the Telescope tab in the Observatory window and make
sure the window at the top says the mount is connected and the
Sidereal Tracking checkbox near the bottom is checked.

If so, then open the Camera Control window and in the Guide tab, click
the "Settings" button. Please make sure that the Autoguider Output is
set to Control via "Telescope". Also, make sure that the all the check
boxes in Guider Enables group box are checked. Also, the calibration
time is set for 10 seconds. Click OK, to exit the Guider Settings window.

Back in the Maxim's Guide tab of Camera Control, set the exposure to 1
second in the upper left and make sure "Expose" is enabled next to the
Start button.

Click the Guide tab's "Move" button to open the Move window. In the
Manual Control group box, set the time to 5 seconds. Bring APCC to the
front so that you can see the RA and Dec values. Click one of the four
manual move buttons (X+, X-, Y+, Y-). After you click the button,
watch the RA/Dec values in APCC. Either RA or Dec should change
depending on which button you click. If the values change that confims
MaximDL is moving the mount and calibration should now work.

Please report back what you find. You can do this during daylight
hours by selecting the Camera simulator. The star from the simulated
camera exposures might not actually move in this case, but you can
watch the RA/Dec values in APCC to confirm movement.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc

Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:56 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray


* Scope is Teleview NP127
* CCD is SBIG STF8300M with filter wheel and an STi off axis guider
* Maxim DL 6.11
* ASCOM driver 5.09.01
* APPC 1.5.0.6 Beta


The STF8300 and STi are both connected via USB to my laptop via a
MountHubPro. The Mach 1 is also connected USB via the same hub. I then
startup APPC, initialize the mount from Park 3, start Maxim, connect
the cameras
and then the Telescope (via Observatory control) to Maxim. That all
works fine

If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
in the STi
(connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
really well. If I
select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
I see some
small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.

Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled

Dan



On 7/08/2016 9:32 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
[ap-gto] wrote:




I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
setting should
I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
control
but it
seems not to work
That should work just fine. Many people use that configuration.

What behavior leads you to believe it doesn't work?

Also, please describe the equipment you are using, including:
1. The camera, telescope, and guide scope.
2. The software, including versions numbers (even if you think that
they are
the "latest").

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:23 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
setting should
I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
control
but it
seems not to work

On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
[ap-gto]
<ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...> wrote:





Hi Dan,

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
Ethernet.

You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2 ASCOM driver to
do
what you want, assuming your computer is running Windows, and you are
using
an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Hi
On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my
laptop and
the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the
STi. I
presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via
Ethernet (it
meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I
can get
the STi to
guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to
the STi
(so
both
USB and autoguide connections)

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
Ethernet.

Thanks
Dan













Re: installing previous version of APCC

Ray Gralak
 

Yes that is what happen. I was that was at 1130 pm to 7am when I logged in after
seeing the shut down never happen. I got errors creating the zip file so hopefully
everything is there. message was can't add xxx.txt file where xxx was the name of the
file. Using windows 10 pro update.

OneDrive Link

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AkP-onLZLeuogsV-FEWe-_AsqWlUTw
There are no slews in the log files you provided. There was less than 20 minutes total of logging in the largest file, and it looks like it was during the day (15:18 - 15:36 -> 3:18-3:36 PM). Note that the date and time of when a log starts is embedded in the filename.

I also need to see the ASCOM log files and ACP's log to match everything up. Instead, please try the Log Zipper within APPM. It should grab all the ASCOM and APCC files.

You'll need to copy the ACP log file separately.

Thanks,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 4:10 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] installing previous version of APCC



Yes that is what happen. I was that was at 1130 pm to 7am when I logged in after
seeing the shut down never happen. I got errors creating the zip file so hopefully
everything is there. message was can't add xxx.txt file where xxx was the name of the
file. Using windows 10 pro update.

OneDrive Link

https://1drv.ms/f/s!AkP-onLZLeuogsV-FEWe-_AsqWlUTw




Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Daniel Calleja
 

Ray
I've redone this test (I had actually done it before after my initial
post to ensure there was movement - I should have noted that). It is
moving the mount (and in both axes). I can see it moving in APPC.

The problem however seems to be in the calibration. It seems to then
only move the mount in one axis - you can see the error here in the
screen capture attached from two nights ago

I've tried making the calibration time longer also (15 and 20 secs)

Thanks

Dan




On 14/08/2016 1:00 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto]
wrote:

Hi Dan,

If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
in the STi
(connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
really well. If I
select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
I see some
small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.

Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled
I know you say you did this but I would like you to confirm that the
AP V2 Telescope driver is connected in the Observatory window. To do
this, switch to the Telescope tab in the Observatory window and make
sure the window at the top says the mount is connected and the
Sidereal Tracking checkbox near the bottom is checked.

If so, then open the Camera Control window and in the Guide tab, click
the "Settings" button. Please make sure that the Autoguider Output is
set to Control via "Telescope". Also, make sure that the all the check
boxes in Guider Enables group box are checked. Also, the calibration
time is set for 10 seconds. Click OK, to exit the Guider Settings window.

Back in the Maxim's Guide tab of Camera Control, set the exposure to 1
second in the upper left and make sure "Expose" is enabled next to the
Start button.

Click the Guide tab's "Move" button to open the Move window. In the
Manual Control group box, set the time to 5 seconds. Bring APCC to the
front so that you can see the RA and Dec values. Click one of the four
manual move buttons (X+, X-, Y+, Y-). After you click the button,
watch the RA/Dec values in APCC. Either RA or Dec should change
depending on which button you click. If the values change that confims
MaximDL is moving the mount and calibration should now work.

Please report back what you find. You can do this during daylight
hours by selecting the Camera simulator. The star from the simulated
camera exposures might not actually move in this case, but you can
watch the RA/Dec values in APCC to confirm movement.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center):
http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc

Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 6:56 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Ray


* Scope is Teleview NP127
* CCD is SBIG STF8300M with filter wheel and an STi off axis guider
* Maxim DL 6.11
* ASCOM driver 5.09.01
* APPC 1.5.0.6 Beta


The STF8300 and STi are both connected via USB to my laptop via a
MountHubPro. The Mach 1 is also connected USB via the same hub. I then
startup APPC, initialize the mount from Park 3, start Maxim, connect
the cameras
and then the Telescope (via Observatory control) to Maxim. That all
works fine

If I use guider relays in Maxim guider settings with the extra cable
in the STi
(connected directly to the CP4) - it calibrates perfectly and guides
really well. If I
select Telescope in the guider settings, calibration does not work.
I see some
small motion but then get a "star did not move in all axes" message.

Thats my current state of play. So I'm still puzzled

Dan



On 7/08/2016 9:32 AM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
[ap-gto] wrote:




I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
setting should
I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
control
but it
seems not to work
That should work just fine. Many people use that configuration.

What behavior leads you to believe it doesn't work?

Also, please describe the equipment you are using, including:
1. The camera, telescope, and guide scope.
2. The software, including versions numbers (even if you think that
they are
the "latest").

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 12:23 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what
setting should
I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider
control
but it
seems not to work

On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@...
[ap-gto]
<ap-gto@...> <mailto:ap-gto@...> wrote:





Hi Dan,

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
Ethernet.

You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2 ASCOM driver to
do
what you want, assuming your computer is running Windows, and you are
using
an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-
physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver:
http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Hi
On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my
laptop and
the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the
STi. I
presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via
Ethernet (it
meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I
can get
the STi to
guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to
the STi
(so
both
USB and autoguide connections)

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via
Ethernet.

Thanks
Dan











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Re: Automated remote operation of an AP1200 mount

m.salisbury30
 

Hi Ray

 

Many thanks for your reply (and to others for their comments).  It has given me some confidence in operating the AP1200 remotely, though Lloyds experiences of pier collisions is something of a concern!

 

I currently operate the observatory semi-remotely and use The Sky6 and CCDSoft.  I know they are outdated but they work well so I haven't seen any reason to change. I also use FocusMax to control the Atlas focuser and PHD for my separate guidescope

 

In addition to CCDAP I also plan to use Pinpoint for plate solving which I think I also need to build a pointing model in APCC.

 

From my experience of using other remote telescopes the robustness of the software and it's integration with the hardware are key.  I have a few issues with the current set up such as changes to British Summer Time  always seem to cause problems and I have a persistent (though not consistent) pointing error.  Neither of these have been a particular issue to me as I use the scope long time series photometry generally of a single target per night, until I start to think about remote control.   I will probably also install a very wide angle camera to allow me to identify the sky pointing if there is a problem.

 

It sounds like I will be looking at CCDAP working with APCC will for the core of the software suite.  I think this will enable me to improve the pointing and plate solve automatically.

 

Many thanks

Mark


GTOCP4 and latest APAE?

cford81@...
 

I just mounted my new GTOCP4 on my AP1600GTO today. I also took advantage of the 30% offer and installed APCC on my POC also. So far, it all seems to hang together and I am starting to explore.

The missing part of the equation appears to be the APAE software that controls both absolute encoders on my mount. I assume I might have to tun these on again now the old GTOCP3 and GTOAE combo is gone? (The RA status LED is glowing blue, the DEC status LED is now glowing green)

I have a version 1.0 of the APAE utility on an (old school) CD that was shipped to me when I purchased my AP1600GTO a few years ago, but the documentation says the newest version is needed with the GTOCP4 but it does not seem to be available online. The documentation only says that a future version of APCC will integrate the APAE utility.

Has anyone with absolute encoder mounts got the GTOCP4 working with the latest version of the existing APAE utility? (And what version number is it and where did you get it from)

Chris