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Re: New keypad version 4.19.3 now available.

email@...
 

Marj, do you have a printable version of the update instructions? A pdf would help. I've tried 3 different browsers all of which are unhappy with the file on your website. Thanks

Greg


Re: Polemaster mounting adapter for AP Mach1GTO (was re:Polemaster m

binkersnot@...
 

Axel:

I can see how you mounted it - looks like good work - but I'd appreciate it if you would elaborate how you use the Polemaster mounted this way.  It seems to me that you have the added complexity of needing to adjust your RA and DEC axes in some precise way in order to polar align.  What is your workflow?  Have you been able to measure the accuracy of your alignment?  How does it compare with the advertised alignment when the Polemaster is mounted in its usual manner?  Thanks for the information.

Best Regards,
Ben


Re: Satellite tracking with Horizons

Ray Gralak
 

Not sure how to account for this. The coordinates I set for the observers position
when generating the ephemeris was actually a couple of miles away from my
mounts geographical position. Would that be a possible cause?
The changed location probably contributed, but I think the biggest potential factor could have been the accuracy of the computer time. If it was off by even a few seconds that could make quite a difference.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 3:05 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Satellite tracking with Horizons



Just made my first attempt at tracking the ISS tonight using Horizons coupled with
APCC Standard. My polar alignment is good enough to place objects into a
medium power eyepiece without correction and certainly on my camera chip (PG
Flea 3 3.2MP).


I used the JPL ephemeris to import data into Horizons and tracking tested
successfully. I then I set tracking to start at a certain time and that was
successful as well. However I found the mount was tracking ahead of the actual
position of the ISS.

Not sure how to account for this. The coordinates I set for the observers position
when generating the ephemeris was actually a couple of miles away from my
mounts geographical position. Would that be a possible cause?






Re: Satellite tracking with Horizons

Christopher Erickson
 

The ISS is in very low orbit so I would say yes, a few miles off will make some difference.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:05 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Satellite tracking with Horizons

Just made my first attempt at tracking the ISS tonight using Horizons coupled with APCC Standard.   My polar alignment is good enough to place objects into a medium power eyepiece without correction and certainly on my camera chip (PG Flea 3 3.2MP).


I used the JPL ephemeris to import data into Horizons and tracking tested successfully.   I then I set tracking to start at a certain time and that was successful as well.  However I found the mount was tracking ahead of the actual position of the ISS. 

Not sure how to account for this.  The coordinates I set for the observers position when generating the ephemeris was actually a couple of miles away from my mounts geographical position.  Would that be a possible cause?



Satellite tracking with Horizons

Philip B
 

Just made my first attempt at tracking the ISS tonight using Horizons coupled with APCC Standard.   My polar alignment is good enough to place objects into a medium power eyepiece without correction and certainly on my camera chip (PG Flea 3 3.2MP).


I used the JPL ephemeris to import data into Horizons and tracking tested successfully.   I then I set tracking to start at a certain time and that was successful as well.  However I found the mount was tracking ahead of the actual position of the ISS. 

Not sure how to account for this.  The coordinates I set for the observers position when generating the ephemeris was actually a couple of miles away from my mounts geographical position.  Would that be a possible cause?



Re: Polemaster mounting adapter for AP Mach1GTO (was re:Polemaster m

Axel VINCENT-RANDONNIER <axelvinc@...>
 

Dear all,
I bought a Polemaster with the standard adapter from Cyclop Optics some weeks ago.
I tinkered an adapter to plug it on the counterweight shaft of my AP Mount (Mach 1) : it does the job.

Axel.


Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Daniel Calleja
 

Stuart 
I'll have a look at this also 

Thanks 


On Wednesday, 3 August 2016, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Dan, I mean in the ASCOM application where you indicate that you're guiding with relays or whatever. One of the choices should be PulseGuide which will not require the cable.

Stuart

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 5:23 AM, Daniel Calleja dcalleja2003@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Stuart
Do you mean the pulseguide application that comes with the AP mounts?

Dan

On 3/08/2016 2:47 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
Is PulseGuide an option for you? That should allow you to lose the cable.

Stuart

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:50 PM, daniel calleja dcalleja2003@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi

On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my laptop and the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the STi. I presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via Ethernet (it meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I can get the STi to guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to the STi (so both USB and autoguide connections) 

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet. 

Thanks
Dan 



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Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Daniel Calleja
 

I'm using APPC + the correct ascom driver and maxim DL. So what setting should I be using in maxim. I would have thought Telescope for the guider control but it seems not to work 


On Thursday, 4 August 2016, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Dan,

> Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet.

You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2 ASCOM driver to do what you want, assuming your computer is running Windows, and you are using an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider
>
>
>
> Hi
> On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my laptop and
> the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the STi. I
> presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via Ethernet (it
> meant one less cable)
>
> I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I can get the STi to
> guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to the STi (so both
> USB and autoguide connections)
>
> Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet.
>
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>


CP3 and Park-1 vs Park-4 OTA flip direction

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi,
 
    This is NOT at all urgent ... as it has been discussed over the years, so nothing new about cross-meridian slews and OTA direction while slewing.  I just updated my CP-3 controllers to the latest ver. 4.19.3 and found it curious,  as I ran the AP-900 through the four Park positions, to confirm all was still in order – that the OTA would be sent initially pointing downward  when commanded to go from Park-1 to Park-4. Meanwhile, the reverse journey, Park-4 to park-1,  raises the OTA nicely,  as it begins to travel to Park-1.
 
    I wish the mount would always choose this preferable OTA orientation. I suppose it is just the nature of spherical trig, that the “starting coordinates” determine the direction that the CP3 firmware will initially slew the DEC axis, rather than taking into account the “final position”, BEFORE it makes this OTA direction decision.
 
    Would consideration of final OTA pointing direction, provide  the more preferable initial DEC slew? It does seem that either tip direction would be equally safe in avoiding pier collision, but the vertical tip would be less stressful on the heavy inverted primary mirrors. This logic should apply whether it slews between these two (extreme) Park positions, or from ANY position to another on the flip side of the meridian.
 
    As I recall, the only suggestion up to now, has been for the “operator” to make the decision of performing such a cross-meridian slew in TWO stages: First to some neutral point near the PM, then complete the final leg as a second slew. But, surely, it should be possible for the controller – or the APCC and driver -  to figure this out on its own.
 
Joe


Re: Polemaster mounting adapter for AP Mach1GTO (was re:Polemaster mounting adapter for AP 900/1200 mounts)

Harley Davidson
 

Geert

I spoke to Bruce from https://www.astrofactors.com/ the other day and as per your link below and this link https://www.astrofactors.com/product/176-universal-polemaster-adapter.html he told me all you need to do is drill a 1/4" diameter hole in the DEC. axis "screw in plug cover" that comes with the mount.

Then use a 1/4 20 bolt to attach the universal adapter to the "plug". I asked him when the AP 1100 mount adapter would be ready and he did not know. It was then that he told me how to work around not having the exact adapter for your mount.

Sounds like a great idea!

tony

On 8/3/2016 12:54 AM, 'Geert Vandenbulcke' geert.vandenbulcke@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 

Hello,

It is easy to fix the QHY Polemaster onto a Mach1GTO: buy some self adhesive velcro, apply one part on the underside of the Polemaster, other part on the Mach1GTO declination motor housing and you can attach and remove the Polemaster as needed. Or you can use some double sided sticky tape to fix the QHY Polemaster UNC adapter (http://www.qhyccd.com/images/UNC-s.jpg) to the declination motor housing if you need to be able to use the Polemaster dovetail attachment e.g. if you have another mount. This UNC adapter has 1/4"-20 thread like a camera, you could also fix this to a Baader Planetarium counterweight with CDP (camera docking port).

Best regards,

Geert Vandenbulcke, Belgium


Posted by: "Geert Vandenbulcke"











Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Dan,

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet.
You can use APCC (Standard or Pro version) + AP V2 ASCOM driver to do what you want, assuming your computer is running Windows, and you are using an ASCOM client application to do auto-guiding.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 2:51 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] CP4 - Ethernet autoguider



Hi
On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my laptop and
the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the STi. I
presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via Ethernet (it
meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I can get the STi to
guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to the STi (so both
USB and autoguide connections)

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet.

Thanks
Dan


Re: ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?

Joel Short
 

Sounds good, thanks Marj!
joel



Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Dan, I mean in the ASCOM application where you indicate that you're guiding with relays or whatever. One of the choices should be PulseGuide which will not require the cable.

Stuart

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 5:23 AM, Daniel Calleja dcalleja2003@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Stuart
Do you mean the pulseguide application that comes with the AP mounts?

Dan

On 3/08/2016 2:47 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
Is PulseGuide an option for you? That should allow you to lose the cable.

Stuart

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:50 PM, daniel calleja dcalleja2003@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi

On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my laptop and the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the STi. I presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via Ethernet (it meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I can get the STi to guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to the STi (so both USB and autoguide connections) 

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet. 

Thanks
Dan 



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Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Daniel Calleja
 

Stuart
Do you mean the pulseguide application that comes with the AP mounts?

Dan

On 3/08/2016 2:47 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] wrote:
 
Is PulseGuide an option for you? That should allow you to lose the cable.

Stuart

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:50 PM, daniel calleja dcalleja2003@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi

On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my laptop and the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the STi. I presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via Ethernet (it meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I can get the STi to guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to the STi (so both USB and autoguide connections) 

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet. 

Thanks
Dan 



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Polemaster mounting adapter for AP Mach1GTO (was re:Polemaster mounting adapter for AP 900/1200 mounts)

Geert
 

Hello,

It is easy to fix the QHY Polemaster onto a Mach1GTO: buy some self adhesive velcro, apply one part on the underside of the Polemaster, other part on the Mach1GTO declination motor housing and you can attach and remove the Polemaster as needed. Or you can use some double sided sticky tape to fix the QHY Polemaster UNC adapter (http://www.qhyccd.com/images/UNC-s.jpg) to the declination motor housing if you need to be able to use the Polemaster dovetail attachment e.g. if you have another mount. This UNC adapter has 1/4"-20 thread like a camera, you could also fix this to a Baader Planetarium counterweight with CDP (camera docking port).

Best regards,

Geert Vandenbulcke, Belgium


Re: CP4 - Ethernet autoguider

Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Is PulseGuide an option for you? That should allow you to lose the cable.

Stuart

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 5:50 PM, daniel calleja dcalleja2003@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi

On my old G11, I could connect my SBIG STI autoguider via usb to my laptop and the G11 via Ethernet and not have to use the autoguider port on the STi. I presume this meant that the G11 was receiving guide commands via Ethernet (it meant one less cable)

I've tried the same on my new Mach 1 - CP4 and the only way I can get the STi to guide is to use the autoguider port and the additional cable to the STi (so both USB and autoguide connections) 

Does anyone know if the CP4 can or will support autoguiding via Ethernet. 

Thanks
Dan 





Re: ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?

Joel Short
 

Thanks Ray, we all appreciate your efforts.
Even if there is a standalone app to initialize the mount that still doesn't address IP communication between the AP driver and CP4.  That's really where my problem is.  Even if I initialize the mount with ASCOM from a computer I still can't get a stable wireless connection between my windows tablet and CP4 over wifi due to flaky third party IP emulator software.  
I'm probably missing something here...
joel

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 9:48 PM, 'Ray Gralak (Groups)' groups3@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi Joel,

ASCOM is a Windows-only platform component so you will need a Windows computer to initialize the mount via the ASCOM driver.

What you probably heard was that someone was going to make a cross-platform (iOS, Android, Windows phone) phone/tablet application that simply initializes the mount.

I have signed up to do that (free) application on my own, however I would like to finish PEMPro V3 before working on this free app. Unfortunately, I can't say for sure that the initialization app will be ready by the fall. Maybe the Sky safari developers or someone else will produce a solution by then.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:13 PM
> To: ap-gto@...
> Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?
>
>
>
> OK, so hopefully some time in the fall then. That's the info I was after.
> Yes, serial and USB is working great with the ASCOM driver now. But those don't
> work with a tablet, and wireless is what I'm after. Using my windows tablet I was
> sporadically successful with some third party emulator software but not nearly
> enough reliably to be of practical use. So I know that communication should work
> if the right software was found or better yet included in the ASCOM driver itself.
> joel
>
>
>
>



Re: ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Joel,

ASCOM is a Windows-only platform component so you will need a Windows computer to initialize the mount via the ASCOM driver.

What you probably heard was that someone was going to make a cross-platform (iOS, Android, Windows phone) phone/tablet application that simply initializes the mount.

I have signed up to do that (free) application on my own, however I would like to finish PEMPro V3 before working on this free app. Unfortunately, I can't say for sure that the initialization app will be ready by the fall. Maybe the Sky safari developers or someone else will produce a solution by then.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:13 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?



OK, so hopefully some time in the fall then. That's the info I was after.
Yes, serial and USB is working great with the ASCOM driver now. But those don't
work with a tablet, and wireless is what I'm after. Using my windows tablet I was
sporadically successful with some third party emulator software but not nearly
enough reliably to be of practical use. So I know that communication should work
if the right software was found or better yet included in the ASCOM driver itself.
joel




Re: ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?

Joel Short
 

OK, so hopefully some time in the fall then.  That's the info I was after.  
Yes, serial and USB is working great with the ASCOM driver now.  But those don't work with a tablet, and wireless is what I'm after.  Using my windows tablet I was sporadically successful with some third party emulator software but not nearly enough reliably to be of practical use.  So I know that communication should work if the right software was found or better yet included in the ASCOM driver itself.
joel



Re: ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?

Christopher Erickson
 

AP has mentioned that IP connectivity over WiFi and Ethernet from the AP ASCOM driver will be available some time in the fall.  Of course connectivity over serial and USB works right now.
 
Simulation Curriculum, the authors of Sky Safari, are discussing the addition of required AP mount initialization commands to Sky Safari Plus/Pro.  That would work for WiFi connections from Sky Safari Plus/Pro and Android/iOS as soon as they are done.
 
And certain external Bluetooth adapters work with SkySafari Plus/Pro right now as well. 
 
I hope that helps.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 1:44 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] ETA for integrated COM port support in ASCOM driver?

I'm not exactly sure what I'm asking :)  becuase I find all this a bit hard to grasp.

First, I haven't found a serial/com port emulator that works well, but admitedly I've only tried free ones or that had a trial period.  Second, I want to be able to install the AP ASCOM driver and intialize the mount from my windows tablet wirelessly, or from my phone with SkySafari.  I do not have a handpad to initialize the mount, and I do not want to have a computer at the mount just to initialize it.

If I understand correctly, currently the only way to initialize the mount is with the handpad, or with a computer running the AP ASCOM driver or APCC.  I do not have a handpad or APCC and don't plan to.  Theoretically it should be possible to connect a windows tablet to CP4 via wifi with the ASCOM driver using a com port emulator between the two.  Right now that requires a third party app, most of which suck.  I'm asking if the ASCOM driver will eventually support this within the ASCOM driver itself so third party software is not needed for wifi connection from a laptop or tablet.

I could be completely off base here.  Please set me straight.  
joel