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Re: Mach1 Gto com failure?

Suresh Mohan
 

Just use a belkin one ( new )
Suresh


On Mar 26, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Sam Miller sammillersro@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Sounds like a serial-USB converter problem. 

Sam 


On Mar 25, 2016, at 19:41, David Beckemeier beckemd@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Just tried to connect to my laptop with my Mach1gto. No matter which com I used, none was connected to the mount.  Mount was on and the RS-232 connection intact. Will try to reboot it all once I drag it back inside. Is there an optimum sequence to turning things on?  Connect laptop to mount, mount to autoguider, laptop to camera. turn on laptop, then mount/SSAG?
Dave in chicago


Re: Mach1 Gto com failure?

Sam Miller
 

Sounds like a serial-USB converter problem. 

Sam 


On Mar 25, 2016, at 19:41, David Beckemeier beckemd@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Just tried to connect to my laptop with my Mach1gto. No matter which com I used, none was connected to the mount.  Mount was on and the RS-232 connection intact. Will try to reboot it all once I drag it back inside. Is there an optimum sequence to turning things on?  Connect laptop to mount, mount to autoguider, laptop to camera. turn on laptop, then mount/SSAG?
Dave in chicago


Re: Grease...Lubrication...AP900

Joe Zeglinski
 

Rick,
 
    The more recent AP recommended grease is “AeroShell Grease-33” (a Shell Oil product) which has an extremely wide temperature range, without freezing or boiling.
 
    “AeroShell Grease 33 is a synthetic universal airframe grease composed of a lithium soap complex thickened synthetic base oil with corrosion and oxidation inhibitors and load carrying additives. Highly refined mineral oil.
The useful operating range is –73C to +121C ”
 
 
    So ... great stuff for our AP mounts in the cold north in winter and summer heat of the New Mexico Desert :-)
 
    Even if there is zero wear & tear on the mount – or if it is just stored away unused for  5 years – any lubricant has a “best before date”. The dealer selling you this grease is required to copy the expiry date from the shelf case of the product (e.g. grease gun refill tubes) on the unit he sells you, so you will know when it was manufactured, and how long that container is still valid for use.
 
    When I asked Shell Tribology Tech support about this, telling them that I really don’t need the heavy wear benefit of this grease normally used for large aircraft landing gear, He said that this grease container is date-stamped on every cartridge or case, and must be replaced after 4 years, because the  oil separates from the grease component, and becomes less effective, and then would actually be dangerous & illegal for aircraft use, I suppose.
However, nothing really bad will happen to your mount if you don’t regrease too soon after 4 years  of the grease's packaging ... “best before date” has expired. But for silky smooth tracking, I wouldn’t wait much longer.
 
    Also, you have to try to clean up any existing AP mount grease, which is likely of a different type, because some greases are incompatible and I suppose can break down if combined, on the mount gears.
 
Joe Z.


Re: Grease...Lubrication...AP900

Scott Hammonds
 

Hey Rick, 
My 1200GTO was used a LOT for over 10 years before I regreased mine. If it is running fine without making noise, I’d wait. 

Scott Hammonds
www.creatorsview.com

“I write a little and cross out a lot. Sometimes I am pleased with it, sometimes not.” Chopin

From: <ap-gto@...> on behalf of "cardiofuse@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...>
Reply-To: <ap-gto@...>
Date: Friday, March 25, 2016 at 10:28 PM
To: <ap-gto@...>
Subject: [ap-gto] Grease...Lubrication...AP900

 

I have an AP900 that is running perfectly.  It is circa 2010.  Should I remove the old grease from the gears and re-grease?


How often should this be performed?  I use the mount about 5-10 hours per month with some months never used, so it is a lightly used mount so far.


Thanks for the information.


Rick

cardiofuse observatory

Panama City, Florida


Mach1 Gto com failure?

David Beckemeier <beckemd@...>
 

Just tried to connect to my laptop with my Mach1gto. No matter which com I used, none was connected to the mount.  Mount was on and the RS-232 connection intact. Will try to reboot it all once I drag it back inside. Is there an optimum sequence to turning things on?  Connect laptop to mount, mount to autoguider, laptop to camera. turn on laptop, then mount/SSAG?
Dave in chicago


Grease...Lubrication...AP900

r1300rs
 

I have an AP900 that is running perfectly.  It is circa 2010.  Should I remove the old grease from the gears and re-grease?


How often should this be performed?  I use the mount about 5-10 hours per month with some months never used, so it is a lightly used mount so far.


Thanks for the information.


Rick

cardiofuse observatory

Panama City, Florida


Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Antoine PAVLIN
 

Hello Joseph,

I believe you are confusing two things there. In order to use PulseGuide you need to use an ASCOM compliant driver for your mount. This requirement has Nothing to do with the way you interface to your camera, and specifically you don’t need to have an ASCOM driver for the camera. It is enough that the Imaging software computes the position change of the guide star centroid and is able to send the timed compensation move to the mount via it’s ASCOM driver PulseGuide command.

I too use a SBIG camera with my Mach1GTO and TSX and I guide only using PulseGuide.


Clear skies

Antoine



De : 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto]
Envoyé le :vendredi 25 mars 2016 19:12
À : ap-gto@...
Objet :Re: [ap-gto] AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

 
Hi Konstantin,
 
    So, if I understand you correctly, you used your SBIG camera and guided without a cable to the CP3 guider port?
If so, I have some retesting to do. I didn’t think this was not possible, since as I understand it, the SBIG driver, which is common to all their models, is a special driver written by by them, many years ago, and does not conform to ASCOM specs. That would be required to let the CCD interface to the AP ASCOM driver.
 
    I am now eagerly looking forward to trying this again, with the supplied CCDSOFT & CCDOPS, since I had no luck the last time I tried and had to use the relay port cable.
 
Thanks for your encouraging news,
Joe




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Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Konstantin von Poschinger
 

use the latest SBIG and AP drivers and everything will be fine.

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.03.2016 um 19:11 schrieb 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>:


Hi Konstantin,
 
    So, if I understand you correctly, you used your SBIG camera and guided without a cable to the CP3 guider port?
If so, I have some retesting to do. I didn’t think this was not possible, since as I understand it, the SBIG driver, which is common to all their models, is a special driver written by by them, many years ago, and does not conform to ASCOM specs. That would be required to let the CCD interface to the AP ASCOM driver.
 
    I am now eagerly looking forward to trying this again, with the supplied CCDSOFT & CCDOPS, since I had no luck the last time I tried and had to use the relay port cable.
 
Thanks for your encouraging news,
Joe



AP900 - sight hole adapter for the Polemaster

sobieski_45@...
 

Hello,

I am considering to make a custom adapter AP900/PoleMaster.

My idea was to screw the adapter in the sight hole of the AP900: is it known what is the spec of the thread?

Thanks!


Flavio


Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Konstantin,
 
    So, if I understand you correctly, you used your SBIG camera and guided without a cable to the CP3 guider port?
If so, I have some retesting to do. I didn’t think this was not possible, since as I understand it, the SBIG driver, which is common to all their models, is a special driver written by by them, many years ago, and does not conform to ASCOM specs. That would be required to let the CCD interface to the AP ASCOM driver.
 
    I am now eagerly looking forward to trying this again, with the supplied CCDSOFT & CCDOPS, since I had no luck the last time I tried and had to use the relay port cable.
 
Thanks for your encouraging news,
Joe


Re: Demo, or "AP GTO for dummies"?

Fritz K
 

I sympathize with J Gilliman. Nothing is simple the first time around! I love my AP mount and computer control of same. But on the first go around I had trouble figuring out the software start up sequence for ascom control and just what was making my various little control boxes pop up and disappear! There is probably no solution other than just getting your hands dirty trying and doing. It certainly helps to set up the mount inside in a lighted room. No scope needed, and imaginary stars on the ceiling (location estimated with any planetarium program). Play with it until you can get it to do what you need where it is warm and bright! I.e Park, one star align, slew to new target, recal, park, shut down, etc.

fritz


Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Konstantin von Poschinger
 

Hi Joe,

I don’t understand why SBIG’s driver should be a blocking factor. I use multi SBIG cameras with multi AP mounts and a CP3 and never had problems with guiding. I use MaximDL for imaging but also have used CCDsoft.

Konstantin


Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.03.2016 um 16:41 schrieb 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>:

 

Hi Konstantin,
 
    Just to clarify, Stuart has the CP2, while I am running my mounts on CP3. So, I should be fine, if I can get my STL CCDOPS & CCDSOFT clients to use the Pulse Guiding “ASCOM V2 function”. But, I suspect SBIG’s driver is the blocking factor to make use of this inherent AP Driver’s function for a connection other than cabled..
 
Joe



Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks Ray,
 
    I did indeed have these two distinctions confused. Thanks for clarifying.
 
Joe


Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Konstantin,
 
    Just to clarify, Stuart has the CP2, while I am running my mounts on CP3. So, I should be fine, if I can get my STL CCDOPS & CCDSOFT clients to use the Pulse Guiding “ASCOM V2 function”. But, I suspect SBIG’s driver is the blocking factor to make use of this inherent AP Driver’s function for a connection other than cabled..
 
Joe


Re: PEM not working

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Vince,

I have tried acquiring data with the PEM enable but after 1 minute the graph line
has move out of the frame.
OK, then something probably went wrong with the upload. Have you tried reading back the PE curve from the mount by clicking "From Mount" on the "AP Raw PE" tab? It should look like what you uploaded. If not try reloading it.

That said can you zip all files "PEMPro*.txt" (log files) and put it in the files section?

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma


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Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 8:03 AM
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Hi Ray,
I have tried acquiring data with the PEM enable but after 1 minute the graph line
has move out of the frame.
I inverted the curve and I still having the same problem.
i have followed the instruction as per the information contained in that link.
Astro-Physics GTOCP3
<http://www.siriusimaging.com/Help/PEMProV2/astrophysicsgtocp3.htm>
image <http://www.siriusimaging.com/Help/PEMProV2/astrophysicsgtocp3.htm>
Astro-Physics GTOCP3
<http://www.siriusimaging.com/Help/PEMProV2/astrophysicsgtocp3.htm>
Below is the AP Raw PE tab before connecting to the mount. All the buttons and
controls are disabled except the From File button and the Shift and Scale num...
View on www.siriusimaging.com
<http://www.siriusimaging.com/Help/PEMProV2/astrophysicsgtocp3.htm>
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Many thanks for your help.
Vince


Re: PEM not working

Vince Salfranc
 

Hi Ray,
I have tried acquiring data with the PEM enable but after 1 minute the graph line has move out of the frame.
I inverted the curve and I still having the same problem.
i have followed the instruction as per the information contained in that link.
Astro-Physics GTOCP3

 


Many thanks for your help.
Vince


Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

Konstantin, thanks. I was warned of this and was prepared to use the cable. I didn't see any degradation of my guiding but it wasn't a controlled experiment. Very possibly my stars would have been tighter with the cable and relays vs. pulse guide. I appreciate the "guidance" since I haven't upgraded the controller (yet). 

Stuart

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 8:09 AM, 'Konstantin v. Poschinger' k.poschinger@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Hi,


there is one important thing you have to consider. You have a GTOCP2 and this control box is not so good for pulse guiding as the newer GTOCP3 and 4! It can happen that your configuration will not be able to do as small corrections over the serial cable as with the guiding cable. 

Konstantin

 
Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.03.2016 um 12:48 schrieb 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>:

 

Thanks Stuart,
 
    I have been trying to figure out how to eliminate that STL relay cable, for years. Guess I have to use PulseGuide to do it?   
I think I will now give PulseGuide another look – anything to eliminate that darned extra guider cable.
 
    So, Ray  ...  if much of what is in PG is now part of the improved ASCOM V2 driver, does that mean that ASCOM V2 “itself” can also be configured to control the mount by a guider, without the need of extra relay cables – in particular an STL-11000 or RGH camera? Or, could that option be dependent on the imaging software, and not a capability with using CCDOPS or CCDSOFT?
Unless, of course,  the problem lies within the SBIG driver “itself” ... not being a real ASCOM driver. I really would appreciate some info on what I need to setup in V2 to accomplish this, without using PulseGuide.
 
Joe






Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Konstantin von Poschinger
 

Hi,

there is one important thing you have to consider. You have a GTOCP2 and this control box is not so good for pulse guiding as the newer GTOCP3 and 4! It can happen that your configuration will not be able to do as small corrections over the serial cable as with the guiding cable. 

Konstantin

 
Konstantin v. Poschinger

Hammerichstr. 5
22605 Hamburg
040/8805747
0171 1983476

Am 25.03.2016 um 12:48 schrieb 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>:

 

Thanks Stuart,
 
    I have been trying to figure out how to eliminate that STL relay cable, for years. Guess I have to use PulseGuide to do it?   
I think I will now give PulseGuide another look – anything to eliminate that darned extra guider cable.
 
    So, Ray  ...  if much of what is in PG is now part of the improved ASCOM V2 driver, does that mean that ASCOM V2 “itself” can also be configured to control the mount by a guider, without the need of extra relay cables – in particular an STL-11000 or RGH camera? Or, could that option be dependent on the imaging software, and not a capability with using CCDOPS or CCDSOFT?
Unless, of course,  the problem lies within the SBIG driver “itself” ... not being a real ASCOM driver. I really would appreciate some info on what I need to setup in V2 to accomplish this, without using PulseGuide.
 
Joe



Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Joe,

I think there might be some confusion between name of the software application "PulseGuide" and ASCOM's PulseGuide function call. The latter is a command used by an ASCOM client application to move the mount for a small timed interval, usually tens of milliseconds. It is usually used by ASCOM clients for autoguiding. The AP V2 ASCOM driver has always had the "PulseGuide" function call so it has always been available to ASCOM clients for autoguiding without the need for extra cables.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

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Thanks Stuart,

I have been trying to figure out how to eliminate that STL relay cable, for years.
Guess I have to use PulseGuide to do it?
I think I will now give PulseGuide another look – anything to eliminate that darned
extra guider cable.

So, Ray ... if much of what is in PG is now part of the improved ASCOM V2
driver, does that mean that ASCOM V2 “itself” can also be configured to control the
mount by a guider, without the need of extra relay cables – in particular an STL-
11000 or RGH camera? Or, could that option be dependent on the imaging
software, and not a capability with using CCDOPS or CCDSOFT?
Unless, of course, the problem lies within the SBIG driver “itself” ... not being a
real ASCOM driver. I really would appreciate some info on what I need to setup in
V2 to accomplish this, without using PulseGuide.

Joe


Re: AP 1200 GTOCP3 and Pulseguide

Joe Zeglinski
 

Thanks Stuart,
 
    I have been trying to figure out how to eliminate that STL relay cable, for years. Guess I have to use PulseGuide to do it?   
I think I will now give PulseGuide another look – anything to eliminate that darned extra guider cable.
 
    So, Ray  ...  if much of what is in PG is now part of the improved ASCOM V2 driver, does that mean that ASCOM V2 “itself” can also be configured to control the mount by a guider, without the need of extra relay cables – in particular an STL-11000 or RGH camera? Or, could that option be dependent on the imaging software, and not a capability with using CCDOPS or CCDSOFT?
Unless, of course,  the problem lies within the SBIG driver “itself” ... not being a real ASCOM driver. I really would appreciate some info on what I need to setup in V2 to accomplish this, without using PulseGuide.
 
Joe