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Re: Mauna Kea visit

Don Anderson
 

Great Pic of the Zodiacal Light Roland. Just wondering, is the faint streak just above the hill (lower right about 1" above the hill) a comet?
 
Don Anderson



From: "chris1011@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto@...; ap-ug@...
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 9:58 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Mauna Kea visit

 
Hi All,

Last week we vacationed in Hawaii and met some friends for observing at the 9000 ft level of Mauna Kea, somewhat below the 14,700 ft summit where all the large observatories are located. The Visitor Center is located at this level, and every night hundreds of people converge on the parking lot outside the Vis to look thru a bunch of telescopes that the staff sets up. Chris Erickson drove us up there with his Astronomy Van and brought his C14 on his 1100 mount. 

This first image shows two SCTs on equatorial mounts getting set up for the tourist onslaught that happens every night, 365 days of the year. In the background is the most massive mountain on Earth - Mauna Loa - rising above the marine layer (the peak is unfortunately hidden behind a nearby hill).
 
 
As twilight fades, visitors line up behind the scopes to look thru the eyepieces of various scopes set up by staff and amateur volunteers. This C14 is Chris Erickson's, who sets up his scope pretty much every Tuesday and helps people to look thru the eyepiece and explains what they are seeing. This night it was Jupiter and then the Moon.

People are delighted to see the Moon, even when full, and all you hear are gasps and WOWs as they see it for the first time at 80x. Chris even shows them how to take I-phone pictures of what they have seen. Chris is the one facing away from the scope, holding a quite bright red light so that people don't run into the tripod.

I was at another C14 and showed people the open clusters in Auriga. Celestron donated the tube assemblies for several C14s and C11s. The mounts came from AP. 900, 110 and 1200 equatorials on Losmandy tripod-piers. There is also a Televue 127 and various medium size Dobs for those who want to sail among the stars at lower powers.
 
 
 
During the early evening the sky was dark enough before the Moon rose to show the Zodiacal light with incredible clarity and brightness. I have seen it several times at the Mauna Kea Vis (short for Visitor center), but never got it quite right with my little Sony digital camera.

So here it is, my feeble attempt to capture this beautiful light show. Visually it reached up to the zenith, right past the Pleiades. On another occasion I also saw the Gegenschein past midnight, but not this night because of the Moon that rose later on.
 



Mauna Kea visit

Roland Christen
 

Hi All,

Last week we vacationed in Hawaii and met some friends for observing at the 9000 ft level of Mauna Kea, somewhat below the 14,700 ft summit where all the large observatories are located. The Visitor Center is located at this level, and every night hundreds of people converge on the parking lot outside the Vis to look thru a bunch of telescopes that the staff sets up. Chris Erickson drove us up there with his Astronomy Van and brought his C14 on his 1100 mount. 

This first image shows two SCTs on equatorial mounts getting set up for the tourist onslaught that happens every night, 365 days of the year. In the background is the most massive mountain on Earth - Mauna Loa - rising above the marine layer (the peak is unfortunately hidden behind a nearby hill).
 
 
As twilight fades, visitors line up behind the scopes to look thru the eyepieces of various scopes set up by staff and amateur volunteers. This C14 is Chris Erickson's, who sets up his scope pretty much every Tuesday and helps people to look thru the eyepiece and explains what they are seeing. This night it was Jupiter and then the Moon.

People are delighted to see the Moon, even when full, and all you hear are gasps and WOWs as they see it for the first time at 80x. Chris even shows them how to take I-phone pictures of what they have seen. Chris is the one facing away from the scope, holding a quite bright red light so that people don't run into the tripod.

I was at another C14 and showed people the open clusters in Auriga. Celestron donated the tube assemblies for several C14s and C11s. The mounts came from AP. 900, 110 and 1200 equatorials on Losmandy tripod-piers. There is also a Televue 127 and various medium size Dobs for those who want to sail among the stars at lower powers.
 
 
 
During the early evening the sky was dark enough before the Moon rose to show the Zodiacal light with incredible clarity and brightness. I have seen it several times at the Mauna Kea Vis (short for Visitor center), but never got it quite right with my little Sony digital camera.

So here it is, my feeble attempt to capture this beautiful light show. Visually it reached up to the zenith, right past the Pleiades. On another occasion I also saw the Gegenschein past midnight, but not this night because of the Moon that rose later on.
 


Re: Anyone using TSX and SGP CrossPost

Mlooker
 

The Ascom 2x mount adapter is for any Paramount class mount.  It enables 3rd party software to 'talk' to TSX.

Also from the Ascom site...

Installs a driver that connects to Software Bisque's TheSky X/6/5 Astronomy Software and makes it look like a standard ASCOM telescope. This allows ASCOM-based astronomy software to use TheSky (including TPOINT and ProTrack) as a smart telescope controller. For more information see Working with TheSky (section 1). It is required for the Paramount mounts, and may be used with TheSky controlling any other of its supported telescope types, or via its built-in outbound ASCOM support, and then using ASCOM telescope drivers. This driver provides Telescope V3 support, 100% conformance, and compatibility with TheSky X (10.2.0 or later).

Tom

On 3/14/2016 8:01 PM, Mark Striebeck mark.striebeck@... [ap-gto] wrote:
the "ASCOM 2X adapter" is only for MyT mounts.


Re: Anyone using TSX and SGP CrossPost

Mark Striebeck
 

Hi Mark,

AFAIK, the "ASCOM 2X adapter" is only for MyT mounts.

Here is what I do:
  • install the AP ASCOM driver
  • in TSX:
    • in Telescope Setup, select "ASCOM Mount" as Mount.
    • then open the "Mount Setup" drop down and select "Settings..."
    • in the ASCOM Telescope Chooser select "AstroPhysics GTO V2 Mount"
    • connect
  • in SGPro
    • also select "AstroPhysics GTO V2 Mount" in the Telescope drop down
    • connect
Now you can control the mount from both programs. That's how I also do my setup: do a "Closed Slew" in TSX, sync and then I run my SGPro sequence.

     Mark

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 6:53 PM, limawms@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

I'm looking for someone who is using The SkyX along with SGP and  an

AP mount.  I've seen what seems to be conflicting info between SB,

ASCOM and AP's driver web pages.  I hope to find someone who has it

working and bypass all the grief as my computer knowledge only

causes me to chase in ever larger circles.


Mainly I intend to use TSX for slewing and syncing the mount before

I start a target in SGP.  I have downloaded and installed the "ASCOM

2X adapter" from SB.  So I thought I should choose "ASCOM telescope

driver for TheSky" in the SGP chooser and my AP mount in TSX.  When

I do that TSX connects, but SGP gives an error something like

"failed to connect to The ASCOM driver for TheSky." Even if I don't

connect to TSX I still get the error on SGP.  


Also I ran accross this post on SB "This driver[2X] when used with

SGP aborts meridian flips when SGP has centering enabled.  Chris R

and The SGP team are looking into it.  ...driver is fine... if

recentering is disabled."  Anyone familiar with this?  I beleive

this was pertaining to a Paramount mount.


Any other tips/suggestions about using TSX w/SGP would surely be

appreciated.


Here's my setup:

AP1100GTO
SGP
PHD2
TheSkyX SAed

Win7x64


I have also posted this on the SGP forum.



Thanks
Mark



Anyone using TSX and SGP CrossPost

limawms@...
 

I'm looking for someone who is using The SkyX along with SGP and  an

AP mount.  I've seen what seems to be conflicting info between SB,

ASCOM and AP's driver web pages.  I hope to find someone who has it

working and bypass all the grief as my computer knowledge only

causes me to chase in ever larger circles.


Mainly I intend to use TSX for slewing and syncing the mount before

I start a target in SGP.  I have downloaded and installed the "ASCOM

2X adapter" from SB.  So I thought I should choose "ASCOM telescope

driver for TheSky" in the SGP chooser and my AP mount in TSX.  When

I do that TSX connects, but SGP gives an error something like

"failed to connect to The ASCOM driver for TheSky." Even if I don't

connect to TSX I still get the error on SGP.  


Also I ran accross this post on SB "This driver[2X] when used with

SGP aborts meridian flips when SGP has centering enabled.  Chris R

and The SGP team are looking into it.  ...driver is fine... if

recentering is disabled."  Anyone familiar with this?  I beleive

this was pertaining to a Paramount mount.


Any other tips/suggestions about using TSX w/SGP would surely be

appreciated.


Here's my setup:

AP1100GTO
SGP
PHD2
TheSkyX SAed

Win7x64


I have also posted this on the SGP forum.



Thanks
Mark


Re: Astro-Physics V2 Ascom driver

Vince Salfranc
 

many thanks for the clarification.
Vince


Re: Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip

Roland Christen
 

Yes indeed, don't change chips with the power on.
 
Rol
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike C mike@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip



1: turn on power and set the keypad options to Auto-Connect = NO
2: change your servo chip to the V2 chip

(step 1.1) turn power off....

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:28 AM, chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
Basically you are removing the stored information in the servo about where the scope was last parked. So you cannot simply do a "Resume from Park". The servo is the CP3, the keypad is not involved here.
 
You did not change anything in the keypad, which contains your time, date, location data. Therefore no, you don't have to enter anything into the keypad. That information was not changed or erased when you change the chip in the servo. The keypad and the servo are two different things and do not have anything to do with each other. The keypad is simply a planetarium program with an objects library. It also contains a clock, so it can send present time to the servo at startup.
 
Here's all you need to do (no computer is needed, just your keypad):
 
1: turn on power and set the keypad options to Auto-Connect = NO
2: change your servo chip to the V2 chip
3: place the scope in the Reference Park 1 position (loosen clutches and move by hand - this needs not to be super accurate)
4: turn power on, the keypad will ask for location and then press "Resume from Park1".
 
The above is called a full initialization, which is basically a manual entry of data.
Now you can slew to any object, center it and do a simple Recal. You are done.
You can set your keypad back to "Auto-Connect = YES" if you wish.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: biancojoseph@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 1:01 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip



I am getting ready to replace a ROM Q chip with a ROM V2 chip and the instructions indicates that I have to do a 'full initialization'.  I am not sure what this mean.

After install the new chip
1. Do I have to re-enter the Location, Date, and Time information
2. Then do a Star-Sync or is there a special sync that has to be done.

Joseph







Re: Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip

Mike C
 

1: turn on power and set the keypad options to Auto-Connect = NO
2: change your servo chip to the V2 chip

(step 1.1) turn power off....

On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 11:28 AM, chris1011@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Basically you are removing the stored information in the servo about where the scope was last parked. So you cannot simply do a "Resume from Park". The servo is the CP3, the keypad is not involved here.
 
You did not change anything in the keypad, which contains your time, date, location data. Therefore no, you don't have to enter anything into the keypad. That information was not changed or erased when you change the chip in the servo. The keypad and the servo are two different things and do not have anything to do with each other. The keypad is simply a planetarium program with an objects library. It also contains a clock, so it can send present time to the servo at startup.
 
Here's all you need to do (no computer is needed, just your keypad):
 
1: turn on power and set the keypad options to Auto-Connect = NO
2: change your servo chip to the V2 chip
3: place the scope in the Reference Park 1 position (loosen clutches and move by hand - this needs not to be super accurate)
4: turn power on, the keypad will ask for location and then press "Resume from Park1".
 
The above is called a full initialization, which is basically a manual entry of data.
Now you can slew to any object, center it and do a simple Recal. You are done.
You can set your keypad back to "Auto-Connect = YES" if you wish.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: biancojoseph@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 1:01 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip



I am getting ready to replace a ROM Q chip with a ROM V2 chip and the instructions indicates that I have to do a 'full initialization'.  I am not sure what this mean.

After install the new chip
1. Do I have to re-enter the Location, Date, and Time information
2. Then do a Star-Sync or is there a special sync that has to be done.

Joseph





Re: Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip

Roland Christen
 

Basically you are removing the stored information in the servo about where the scope was last parked. So you cannot simply do a "Resume from Park". The servo is the CP3, the keypad is not involved here.
 
You did not change anything in the keypad, which contains your time, date, location data. Therefore no, you don't have to enter anything into the keypad. That information was not changed or erased when you change the chip in the servo. The keypad and the servo are two different things and do not have anything to do with each other. The keypad is simply a planetarium program with an objects library. It also contains a clock, so it can send present time to the servo at startup.
 
Here's all you need to do (no computer is needed, just your keypad):
 
1: turn on power and set the keypad options to Auto-Connect = NO
2: change your servo chip to the V2 chip
3: place the scope in the Reference Park 1 position (loosen clutches and move by hand - this needs not to be super accurate)
4: turn power on, the keypad will ask for location and then press "Resume from Park1".
 
The above is called a full initialization, which is basically a manual entry of data.
Now you can slew to any object, center it and do a simple Recal. You are done.
You can set your keypad back to "Auto-Connect = YES" if you wish.
 
Rolando
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: biancojoseph@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sat, Mar 12, 2016 1:01 pm
Subject: [ap-gto] Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip



I am getting ready to replace a ROM Q chip with a ROM V2 chip and the instructions indicates that I have to do a 'full initialization'.  I am not sure what this mean.

After install the new chip
1. Do I have to re-enter the Location, Date, and Time information
2. Then do a Star-Sync or is there a special sync that has to be done.

Joseph




Steps for 'full initialization' after installing new ROM chip

Joseph Bianco
 

I am getting ready to replace a ROM Q chip with a ROM V2 chip and the instructions indicates that I have to do a 'full initialization'.  I am not sure what this mean.


After install the new chip

1. Do I have to re-enter the Location, Date, and Time information

2. Then do a Star-Sync or is there a special sync that has to be done.


Joseph



Re: SQM

Mike Chasin
 

Yes. I post the resulting graphs to the club website. Scroll down to see.

www.sdaa.org/tds_weather.htm

With CCDAP you can take each photo's sqm reading and insert it into the fits header. The basic software the sqm comes with is good, but consider the upgraded version from Knightware. (Just a happy user, no financial interest).

Mike C


Re: SQM

Lloyd Smith
 

Ditto. Have had one permanently installed for the last year. Works great. Must keep the window clean for accurate readings....major stuff like very accurate geese create the illusion of skies better than 22 ;-)


Re: SQM

Eric M
 

Yup, I use the SQM-L. Great little device to determine how dark your skies are.


SQM

gordon_hauser@...
 

Anyone using a Sky Quality Meter?  http://www.unihedron.com/projects/darksky/ 

 


Re: Astro-Physics V2 Ascom driver

beckemd <beckemd@...>
 

Anyone heading there tonight?



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-------- Original message --------
From: "salfranc@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...>
Date: 03/10/2016 2:58 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Astro-Physics V2 Ascom driver

 

Hi,

I wish to use the Astro-Physics V2 Ascom driver and I wanted to clarify whether or not I need to set the handpad to EXT.

I read the manual a few time and I just confuse myself..

Thank you.

Vince


Re: APCC Not Responding

Ray Gralak
 

Hi Jerry,

While the popup issue happens occasionally, lockups are also frequent with no
obvious cause,
When you have experienced APCC "locking up" do you mean that you can't click anything on the user interface? Do you remember seeing the LST field changing in APCC? Did you have any applications connected? If so were they "timing out" with no response from APCC and/or the ASCOM driver?

3, Hidden popup: This as been an issue I have been struggling with. I can see the
popup on the taskbar but can't click on it.... I will disable the "form always on top"
setting.
If there is a background dialog box then APCC might not have been actually locked up, just waiting for you to click the dialog.

Browsing through other posts I haven't found many posts reporting problems with
APCC. This would strongly suggest the problems I'm experiencing must unique to
my system. Possibly a hardware issue,,, Perhaps time to replace my computer??

Any additional guidance you can offer would be most appreciated
Have you tried looking at the APCC and driver logs? If not try searching for "error" or "exception" in them. There are a few legitimate cases where those key words could appear but if you match up the logs to the clock time when you have had an issue maybe something will stand out.

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:13 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] APCC Not Responding



Thanks Ray,

1 Two instances of the ASCOM Driver: This doesn't appear to be the case based
on what Task Manager lists as running processes. I'll investigate this further

2. Running programs as Administrator: I do not generally run programs as
administrator, but it may in fact be the case,,, I've never run into a problem with
other programs but APCC may be an exception

3, Hidden popup: This as been an issue I have been struggling with. I can see the
popup on the taskbar but can't click on it.... I will disable the "form always on top"
setting.

While the popup issue happens occasionally, lockups are also frequent with no
obvious cause,

As I mentioned, everything works flawlessly when I connect Maxim, TheskyX,
CCDAP etc directly to the AP V2 driver. This would appear to rule out an issue
with cabling to the mount. In an earlier post Gordon, recommended
disconnecting/reconnecting the USB adapter. I went the extra mile and replaced
both the serial cable and the USB Adapter (KeySpan USA-19HS). Serial cable is
plugged into the top port on the CP3 Control Box.

Browsing through other posts I haven't found many posts reporting problems with
APCC. This would strongly suggest the problems I'm experiencing must unique to
my system. Possibly a hardware issue,,, Perhaps time to replace my computer??

Any additional guidance you can offer would be most appreciated

Thanks

Jerry K









Re: APCC Not Responding

jerry2kam
 

Thanks Ray,

1 Two instances of the ASCOM Driver: This doesn't appear to be the case based on what Task Manager lists as running processes. I'll investigate this further

2. Running programs as Administrator: I do not generally run programs as administrator, but it may in fact be the case,,, I've never run into a problem with other programs but APCC may be an exception

3, Hidden popup: This as been  an issue I have been struggling with. I can see the popup on the taskbar but can't click on it....  I will disable the "form always on top" setting.

While the popup issue happens occasionally, lockups are also frequent with no obvious cause,

As I mentioned, everything works flawlessly when I connect Maxim, TheskyX, CCDAP etc directly to the AP V2 driver. This would appear to rule out an issue with cabling to the mount. In an earlier post Gordon, recommended disconnecting/reconnecting the USB adapter. I went the extra mile and replaced both the serial cable and the USB Adapter (KeySpan USA-19HS). Serial cable is plugged into the top port on the CP3 Control Box.

Browsing through other posts I haven't found many posts reporting problems with APCC. This would strongly suggest the problems I'm experiencing must unique to my system. Possibly a hardware issue,,, Perhaps time to replace my computer??

Any additional guidance you can offer would be most appreciated 

Thanks

Jerry K




   



Re: Did ATS go out of business?

 

I just tried to call and the number is fine. I was asked to leave a message. There is no reason to think they are out of business.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:03 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Did ATS go out of business?

 

 

Hi folks,

I tried calling ATS with a few questions about their tripods and their phone number appears to be out of order. I'm wondering if anyone knows if they are no longer in business

Thanks
Richard


Did ATS go out of business?

R Edelson
 

Hi folks,

I tried calling ATS with a few questions about their tripods and their phone number appears to be out of order. I'm wondering if anyone knows if they are no longer in business

Thanks
Richard


Re: Kendrick Power Pack Cable for CP4 is now available

 

Thank you for posting the information, John.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 2:04 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Kendrick Power Pack Cable for CP4 is now available

 

 

I now have the Kendrick part number for the AP GTO-CP4 to Kendrick Power Pack, (terminates in an XLR plug).

It is 2086-AP-GTOCP4.  Kendrick will have it on their website by Monday when they actually take a picture of the one they are building for me.  The price is $136 with a $10/shipping charge from Canada to the East Coast of the US.

 

Thought I would let everyone know who has or plans to buy one of these Power Packs and is ordering a new GTO-CP4.

 

Guess that means I now have to tell order my own GTO-CP4.  I just couldn't see ordering one when I don't have a cable to plug it in to anything and I just couldn't see using a cigarette lighter converter from a new power end.  That just adds insult to reason.

 

A special thank you to George from A-P for the CP4 connector information so I could share it with Kendrick, (I did tell George what I was doing too so there was no breach of trust or anything going on).

 

John A. Sillasen