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Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

Woody Schlom <woody@...>
 

How clever you are Marj. 

 

Adding the link to your website must be a relatively new addition.

 

Woody

 

It is also included with the website information for the RAPAS along with the other options.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 5:23 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

 

 

I have already provided the link.

 

Twice.

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.techhead.polarfinder&hl=en

 

Now three times.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 1:07 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Christian,

 

This is NOT the same APP Christopher Erickson and I are talking about.  I’ll try to find a link to the one we use – which is also called PolarFinder.

 

The screen icon for the one we use is a blue square with 7 yellow stars in the Little Dipper pattern.

 

Woody

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 11:21 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

 

 

Thanks Christopher,
I've completely missed that. I can't see any mention of the AP RAPAS on Polar Finder web site :-(
http://www.polarfinder.com/

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 17:28, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder for Android does the AP RAPAS.

 

Apparently you missed that.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:07 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Thanks Christopher and Geert,
Is there any app showing the Astrophysics right-angle viewfinder ?

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 09:56, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder by Jozsef Lazar.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:29 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich

 

 


Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

 

It is also included with the website information for the RAPAS along with the other options.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 5:23 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

 

 

I have already provided the link.

 

Twice.

 

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.techhead.polarfinder&hl=en

 

Now three times.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 1:07 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Christian,

 

This is NOT the same APP Christopher Erickson and I are talking about.  I’ll try to find a link to the one we use – which is also called PolarFinder.

 

The screen icon for the one we use is a blue square with 7 yellow stars in the Little Dipper pattern.

 

Woody

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 11:21 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

 

 

Thanks Christopher,
I've completely missed that. I can't see any mention of the AP RAPAS on Polar Finder web site :-(
http://www.polarfinder.com/

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 17:28, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder for Android does the AP RAPAS.

 

Apparently you missed that.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:07 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Thanks Christopher and Geert,
Is there any app showing the Astrophysics right-angle viewfinder ?

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 09:56, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder by Jozsef Lazar.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:29 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich

 

 


Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

Christopher Erickson
 

I have already provided the link.
 
Twice.
 
 
Now three times.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 1:07 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Christian,

 

This is NOT the same APP Christopher Erickson and I are talking about.  I’ll try to find a link to the one we use – which is also called PolarFinder.

 

The screen icon for the one we use is a blue square with 7 yellow stars in the Little Dipper pattern.

 

Woody

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 11:21 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

 

 

Thanks Christopher,
I've completely missed that. I can't see any mention of the AP RAPAS on Polar Finder web site :-(
http://www.polarfinder.com/

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 17:28, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder for Android does the AP RAPAS.

 

Apparently you missed that.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:07 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Thanks Christopher and Geert,
Is there any app showing the Astrophysics right-angle viewfinder ?

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 09:56, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder by Jozsef Lazar.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:29 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich

 

 


Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

Woody Schlom <woody@...>
 

Christian,

 

This is NOT the same APP Christopher Erickson and I are talking about.  I’ll try to find a link to the one we use – which is also called PolarFinder.

 

The screen icon for the one we use is a blue square with 7 yellow stars in the Little Dipper pattern.

 

Woody

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 11:21 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

 

 

Thanks Christopher,
I've completely missed that. I can't see any mention of the AP RAPAS on Polar Finder web site :-(
http://www.polarfinder.com/

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 17:28, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder for Android does the AP RAPAS.

 

Apparently you missed that.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:07 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Thanks Christopher and Geert,
Is there any app showing the Astrophysics right-angle viewfinder ?

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 09:56, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder by Jozsef Lazar.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:29 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich

 

 


Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

Woody Schlom <woody@...>
 

Christian,

 

YES!  PolarFinder – the one we’ve all been recommending.  Is has a reticle setting for the Astro-Physics RAPAS.  That’s the A-P right-angle finder.  I’ve been using it with my Mach1 with RAPAS for years and it works very well.

 

Woody

 

Thanks Christopher and Geert,
Is there any app showing the Astrophysics right-angle viewfinder ?

Christian


Le 06/02/2016 09:56, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :

Polar Finder by Jozsef Lazar.

 

 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:29 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich

 


Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

Woody Schlom <woody@...>
 

Christian,

 

I use “PolarFinder.”  It’s an Android APP.  It has settings for Takahashi, the A-P RAPAS, iOptron and several other PA reticles.  I couldn’t’ do without it.

 

Woody

 

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich


Re: APCC, Sequence Generator Pro, and Automated Imaging Software

BigE Astro
 

I am going to invest the time in SGP.


Thanks for all the information.


Re: Reflections in Images

BigE Astro
 

Words to live by.


Re: A big issue, not sure if it is the Leap Year Bug

topboxman
 

Hi Floyd,

I am sorry about the mishap you experienced. It might be a good idea to zip up ASCOM mount driver logs and include version number of your CPX box and send them to A-P and/or Ray Gralak. Hopefully the logs will provide some clues.

Peter


---In ap-gto@..., <fblue@...> wrote :

I know about the Leap Year bug, read all the thread.

I have an AP900 mount I bought used and it needs to have the hand pad updated, I am also aware of that.

But, my mount was in my motorhome in the shop and I did not have the serial numbers to fill out the form and send it in, so I did not get this done.

However, I read that if you start the mount using the Ver2 driver and if you do not use Park 1 then it was not a problem.

Well, I am up on the mountain and I have a big issue. I started everything like normal, using external initialization, my laptop. I have been using the mount for years and not a problem. But all seemed good, I did a recal on a star and then slewed on the East side to a star near Betelgeuse. All went well and I started CCDAP and it imaged until the meridian flip. Then when it flipped, automatically as always, it did something totally bizarre. It wrapped the cords around the mount, the thing turned a complete 360 in Dec and I don't know what else. I was lucky that I was awake and watching on my remote laptop. I normally never go out to see if it flipped OK but for some reason I did this time and found the mount stalled with the Dec cable wrapped so tight that it was almost impossible to undo.

I managed to figure out how to unwrap all the USB cables and disconnect the Dec cable at the motor. Then I was able to loosen the clutches and tell it to Park at Park 3 and it moved the mount for a very long time and finally finished. The clutches being loose allowed it to move without the scope moving. I set the mount with my levels and reconnected the cables and all. Then I restarted all the programs and linked to the mount again. It unparked from Park 3 and slews to a star in the north that I commanded from The Sky 6 and then Recal was successful. 

Now it would go to the star which was now on the West side of the meridian. It also parked from there and returned to Park 3. 

So I started a new session and it went to the star, plate solved and focused and all is seemingly working. However, I have no idea why it failed to do a meridian flip and seemingly lost its way and wrapped the cords. Needless to say I am afraid to use it and go to sleep at night, so it really sucks. I am not at all sure that it will work now or whether it will continue to do this each night.

First off, this just doesn't make sense, the Leap Year bug should not affect my mount as I use both the Ver 2 driver to intit and I use Park 3. But maybe this is the bug and I just happen to find another problems with it.

What I need to know is whether there is anyway that I can get the update without having to send in the form to register. I don't have the ability to scan a form here so that I can send it to you by email. I do have internet access and cellphone. 

What I need is help figuring out if this is the Leap Year problem and if so how can I fix it here so that I don't have to tear down and go home, it is a long drive and a big setup. It will ruin my month if I have to tear down and go home.

So, what can I do? I can call tomorrow, but it will be Saturday and I am not sure you are there then.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Floyd Blue 


Re: Reflections in Images

James Janusz
 

Has always been true. :-)


From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.



-------- Original message --------
From: "chris1011@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...>
Date: 02/06/2016 12:15 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images


Flocking is good, more flocking is better.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2016 2:05 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images



Thank you Roland and all,
 
It seems that taking the imaging train down into parts and flocking the parts that seemed suspect took care of the problem. I took images last night of NGC3521 and not one had the reflection. I covered a few areas with the furthest being the rear cell adapter, a part that screws onto the rear cell and has 2.7” threads for the AP 2.7” adapters/focuser. Probably not the culprit but a possibility I guess. Then inside the 3” Pyxis rotator I saw a small area that seem to reflect so I covered that as well and it is closer, still a maybe. But the closest part was the STL/Pyxis camera adapter. I used a wider than needed piece of flocking paper that extended into the rotator by maybe .5” and that I think may have solved the problem. What has always been perplexing to me is the fact that images I have been taking of IC63 has Navi just outside the dead center bottom of the image and you can see one diffraction spike and a glow from the star with no reflections what so ever. Seems that the star being that close, it would have a greater effect than what I’m getting if it was the same issue as the NGC3521 images. But then I’m no optics guy and tend to probably look at this far too simplistically.
 
Roland, I could not see sky from the test you suggested at all. I remember SBIG some years ago was offering the use of a special camera they made to do just this test. For some reason they later stopped offering the use of the camera because I suspect more users were requesting this vs the telescope makers they probably intended to target. I’ll have to ask Doug George if that camera is part of his inventory or maybe get in touch with Alan Holmes and see what he might suggest along this line of testing.
 
Thank you all again. I think I’ve eliminated some issues at the least.
 
Best,
 
Steve
 
 
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 3:55 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
 
There is one other remote possibility that you can check out with the camera removed. Look up the camera adapter tube past the baffle tube towards the secondary. Now place your eye at the edge of the camera adapter tube and look if you can see clear sky past the primary and secondary baffles. If you can see the sky directly past the baffles (would look like a thin crescent shape of sky), then it is possible for the light of a bright star to enter directly into the imaging train and cause an arc of light. If that's the case then you would need to make the secondary baffle somewhat larger to block this source of stray light.
 
This is most probably not the source of your stray light, but it would be good to check out.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2016 2:29 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
If I’ve learned anything in this life it’s that I listen to 1, my wife, and 2, Roland. I took the camera off the telescope and turned on the FlatMan XL at full brightness. There appear to be some suspects but they are as far away as 7” which I find even less suspect as the arc appears to be finely focused making me think it’s very near the CCD chip itself. What few surface reflections I did see I covered with flocking paper. As the FW8 is part of the camera there is no removing the filter wheel itself, the camera came with this when new, but I could remove the filter carousel itself if needed. For now, it’s intact. I also flocked the STL camera adapter for the Pyxis which is as close as anything come to the camera/filter wheel. Of course it’s likely a few days before a clear night is expected so I’ll have to wait and see. And it will have to be tested on NGC3521 as this is the target that the past few imaging sessions have this problem. Other images taken the same night on different targets show none of this.
 
Thanks,
 
Steve
 
 
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 2:09 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
 
It's no use showing the picture of the large parts of the scope (i.e. primary mirror, etc). That's not where the reflections are coming from.
REMOVE THE CAMERA (emphasis mine), now look up the small parts that are near the camera, ALL of them, not just the focuser. Take a picture up from the tail end with the scope aimed up at the bright sky - with all of the parts in place, only the camera removed.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 1:04 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
Gotta run pick up the pup but I just uploaded new pictures of the imaging train and interior/exterior of the telescope. See http://www.astral-imaging.com/reflection.html and no, you don’t need to mention the dirt on the primary.
 
Steve
 
 
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
 
Steve, did you already say if it was affecting all filters? 
 
Stuart
 
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:16 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
Steve,
 
    By chance, do you have an empty filter? If not, remove one filter, as a possible optical cause, and see if one or both problems go away.
 
Joe


 
--
 
 



Re: A big issue, not sure if it is the Leap Year Bug

 

Hi Floyd,

 

You don’t need to provide us your serial number to do the download for your keypad. I just sent a private email with the user name and password and link to the download.

 

I also asked a few questions so that we can assist you.

 

Clear Skies,

 

Marj Christen

Astro-Physics, Inc

11250 Forest Hills Rd

Machesney Park, IL 61115

Phone: 815-282-1513

Fax: 815-282-9847

www.astro-physics.com

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 12:46 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] A big issue, not sure if it is the Leap Year Bug

 

 

I know about the Leap Year bug, read all the thread.

I have an AP900 mount I bought used and it needs to have the hand pad updated, I am also aware of that.

But, my mount was in my motorhome in the shop and I did not have the serial numbers to fill out the form and send it in, so I did not get this done.

However, I read that if you start the mount using the Ver2 driver and if you do not use Park 1 then it was not a problem.

Well, I am up on the mountain and I have a big issue. I started everything like normal, using external initialization, my laptop. I have been using the mount for years and not a problem. But all seemed good, I did a recal on a star and then slewed on the East side to a star near Betelgeuse. All went well and I started CCDAP and it imaged until the meridian flip. Then when it flipped, automatically as always, it did something totally bizarre. It wrapped the cords around the mount, the thing turned a complete 360 in Dec and I don't know what else. I was lucky that I was awake and watching on my remote laptop. I normally never go out to see if it flipped OK but for some reason I did this time and found the mount stalled with the Dec cable wrapped so tight that it was almost impossible to undo.

I managed to figure out how to unwrap all the USB cables and disconnect the Dec cable at the motor. Then I was able to loosen the clutches and tell it to Park at Park 3 and it moved the mount for a very long time and finally finished. The clutches being loose allowed it to move without the scope moving. I set the mount with my levels and reconnected the cables and all. Then I restarted all the programs and linked to the mount again. It unparked from Park 3 and slews to a star in the north that I commanded from The Sky 6 and then Recal was successful. 

Now it would go to the star which was now on the West side of the meridian. It also parked from there and returned to Park 3. 

So I started a new session and it went to the star, plate solved and focused and all is seemingly working. However, I have no idea why it failed to do a meridian flip and seemingly lost its way and wrapped the cords. Needless to say I am afraid to use it and go to sleep at night, so it really sucks. I am not at all sure that it will work now or whether it will continue to do this each night.

First off, this just doesn't make sense, the Leap Year bug should not affect my mount as I use both the Ver 2 driver to intit and I use Park 3. But maybe this is the bug and I just happen to find another problems with it.

What I need to know is whether there is anyway that I can get the update without having to send in the form to register. I don't have the ability to scan a form here so that I can send it to you by email. I do have internet access and cellphone. 

What I need is help figuring out if this is the Leap Year problem and if so how can I fix it here so that I don't have to tear down and go home, it is a long drive and a big setup. It will ruin my month if I have to tear down and go home.

So, what can I do? I can call tomorrow, but it will be Saturday and I am not sure you are there then.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Floyd Blue 


Re: Reflections in Images

Roland Christen
 

Flocking is good, more flocking is better.
 
Rolando
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2016 2:05 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images



Thank you Roland and all,
 
It seems that taking the imaging train down into parts and flocking the parts that seemed suspect took care of the problem. I took images last night of NGC3521 and not one had the reflection. I covered a few areas with the furthest being the rear cell adapter, a part that screws onto the rear cell and has 2.7” threads for the AP 2.7” adapters/focuser. Probably not the culprit but a possibility I guess. Then inside the 3” Pyxis rotator I saw a small area that seem to reflect so I covered that as well and it is closer, still a maybe. But the closest part was the STL/Pyxis camera adapter. I used a wider than needed piece of flocking paper that extended into the rotator by maybe .5” and that I think may have solved the problem. What has always been perplexing to me is the fact that images I have been taking of IC63 has Navi just outside the dead center bottom of the image and you can see one diffraction spike and a glow from the star with no reflections what so ever. Seems that the star being that close, it would have a greater effect than what I’m getting if it was the same issue as the NGC3521 images. But then I’m no optics guy and tend to probably look at this far too simplistically.
 
Roland, I could not see sky from the test you suggested at all. I remember SBIG some years ago was offering the use of a special camera they made to do just this test. For some reason they later stopped offering the use of the camera because I suspect more users were requesting this vs the telescope makers they probably intended to target. I’ll have to ask Doug George if that camera is part of his inventory or maybe get in touch with Alan Holmes and see what he might suggest along this line of testing.
 
Thank you all again. I think I’ve eliminated some issues at the least.
 
Best,
 
Steve
 
 
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 3:55 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
 
There is one other remote possibility that you can check out with the camera removed. Look up the camera adapter tube past the baffle tube towards the secondary. Now place your eye at the edge of the camera adapter tube and look if you can see clear sky past the primary and secondary baffles. If you can see the sky directly past the baffles (would look like a thin crescent shape of sky), then it is possible for the light of a bright star to enter directly into the imaging train and cause an arc of light. If that's the case then you would need to make the secondary baffle somewhat larger to block this source of stray light.
 
This is most probably not the source of your stray light, but it would be good to check out.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2016 2:29 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
If I’ve learned anything in this life it’s that I listen to 1, my wife, and 2, Roland. I took the camera off the telescope and turned on the FlatMan XL at full brightness. There appear to be some suspects but they are as far away as 7” which I find even less suspect as the arc appears to be finely focused making me think it’s very near the CCD chip itself. What few surface reflections I did see I covered with flocking paper. As the FW8 is part of the camera there is no removing the filter wheel itself, the camera came with this when new, but I could remove the filter carousel itself if needed. For now, it’s intact. I also flocked the STL camera adapter for the Pyxis which is as close as anything come to the camera/filter wheel. Of course it’s likely a few days before a clear night is expected so I’ll have to wait and see. And it will have to be tested on NGC3521 as this is the target that the past few imaging sessions have this problem. Other images taken the same night on different targets show none of this.
 
Thanks,
 
Steve
 
 
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 2:09 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
 
It's no use showing the picture of the large parts of the scope (i.e. primary mirror, etc). That's not where the reflections are coming from.
REMOVE THE CAMERA (emphasis mine), now look up the small parts that are near the camera, ALL of them, not just the focuser. Take a picture up from the tail end with the scope aimed up at the bright sky - with all of the parts in place, only the camera removed.
 
Rolando
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 1:04 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
Gotta run pick up the pup but I just uploaded new pictures of the imaging train and interior/exterior of the telescope. See http://www.astral-imaging.com/reflection.html and no, you don’t need to mention the dirt on the primary.
 
Steve
 
 
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images
 
 
Steve, did you already say if it was affecting all filters? 
 
Stuart
 
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:16 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 
Steve,
 
    By chance, do you have an empty filter? If not, remove one filter, as a possible optical cause, and see if one or both problems go away.
 
Joe


 
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Re: A big issue, not sure if it is the Leap Year Bug

Roland Christen
 

The issue is not in the hand controller since you had it set on EXT and initialized the mount via another program. In this mode the hand controller sends nothing to the mount servo and remains basically silent at all times.
I have forwarded your post to Howard, who has more expertise on the older chips. You may need to get one of the latest chips for your CP servo controller.
 
Rolando
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: fblue@... [ap-gto]
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Sat, Feb 6, 2016 1:59 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] A big issue, not sure if it is the Leap Year Bug



Hi Chris,
Thanks for the reply. Well I have not had the mount on with tracking stopped, I just set up that day.
What ever happened it happened on the Meridian Flip. The Dec and RA seemed to have turned in the wrong direction after the move to the other side. This resulted in wrapping the Dec cable as well as the others wrapping around the pier. Normally my cables would be on the south side of the pier at all times. But this time the cables were wrapped around the north side. It just seems like everything was backwards.
Strangely, after I reset the mount and slewed to the East side to get back on target, everything worked fine and the mount parked after the session.
Since I do not use my hand controller at all, I think I might leave it disconnected and see if that fixes this. After all, you are able to control the mount without it. I would guess that if this works then the problem must be in the hand controller. I could just wait until I g et back home and try to update it.
Floyd 



Re: Reflections in Images

Steve Reilly
 

Thank you Roland and all,

 

It seems that taking the imaging train down into parts and flocking the parts that seemed suspect took care of the problem. I took images last night of NGC3521 and not one had the reflection. I covered a few areas with the furthest being the rear cell adapter, a part that screws onto the rear cell and has 2.7” threads for the AP 2.7” adapters/focuser. Probably not the culprit but a possibility I guess. Then inside the 3” Pyxis rotator I saw a small area that seem to reflect so I covered that as well and it is closer, still a maybe. But the closest part was the STL/Pyxis camera adapter. I used a wider than needed piece of flocking paper that extended into the rotator by maybe .5” and that I think may have solved the problem. What has always been perplexing to me is the fact that images I have been taking of IC63 has Navi just outside the dead center bottom of the image and you can see one diffraction spike and a glow from the star with no reflections what so ever. Seems that the star being that close, it would have a greater effect than what I’m getting if it was the same issue as the NGC3521 images. But then I’m no optics guy and tend to probably look at this far too simplistically.

 

Roland, I could not see sky from the test you suggested at all. I remember SBIG some years ago was offering the use of a special camera they made to do just this test. For some reason they later stopped offering the use of the camera because I suspect more users were requesting this vs the telescope makers they probably intended to target. I’ll have to ask Doug George if that camera is part of his inventory or maybe get in touch with Alan Holmes and see what he might suggest along this line of testing.

 

Thank you all again. I think I’ve eliminated some issues at the least.

 

Best,

 

Steve

 

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 3:55 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images

 

 

There is one other remote possibility that you can check out with the camera removed. Look up the camera adapter tube past the baffle tube towards the secondary. Now place your eye at the edge of the camera adapter tube and look if you can see clear sky past the primary and secondary baffles. If you can see the sky directly past the baffles (would look like a thin crescent shape of sky), then it is possible for the light of a bright star to enter directly into the imaging train and cause an arc of light. If that's the case then you would need to make the secondary baffle somewhat larger to block this source of stray light.

 

This is most probably not the source of your stray light, but it would be good to check out.

 

Rolando

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2016 2:29 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images

 

If I’ve learned anything in this life it’s that I listen to 1, my wife, and 2, Roland. I took the camera off the telescope and turned on the FlatMan XL at full brightness. There appear to be some suspects but they are as far away as 7” which I find even less suspect as the arc appears to be finely focused making me think it’s very near the CCD chip itself. What few surface reflections I did see I covered with flocking paper. As the FW8 is part of the camera there is no removing the filter wheel itself, the camera came with this when new, but I could remove the filter carousel itself if needed. For now, it’s intact. I also flocked the STL camera adapter for the Pyxis which is as close as anything come to the camera/filter wheel. Of course it’s likely a few days before a clear night is expected so I’ll have to wait and see. And it will have to be tested on NGC3521 as this is the target that the past few imaging sessions have this problem. Other images taken the same night on different targets show none of this.

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

 

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 2:09 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images

 

 

It's no use showing the picture of the large parts of the scope (i.e. primary mirror, etc). That's not where the reflections are coming from.

REMOVE THE CAMERA (emphasis mine), now look up the small parts that are near the camera, ALL of them, not just the focuser. Take a picture up from the tail end with the scope aimed up at the bright sky - with all of the parts in place, only the camera removed.

 

Rolando

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Steven Reilly' sreilly24590@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...>
To: ap-gto <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Wed, Feb 3, 2016 1:04 pm
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images

 

Gotta run pick up the pup but I just uploaded new pictures of the imaging train and interior/exterior of the telescope. See http://www.astral-imaging.com/reflection.html and no, you don’t need to mention the dirt on the primary.

 

Steve

 

 

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 1:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Reflections in Images

 

 

Steve, did you already say if it was affecting all filters? 

 

Stuart

 

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 1:16 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Steve,

 

    By chance, do you have an empty filter? If not, remove one filter, as a possible optical cause, and see if one or both problems go away.

 

Joe



 

--

 

 


Re: A big issue, not sure if it is the Leap Year Bug

 

Hi Chris,

Thanks for the reply. Well I have not had the mount on with tracking stopped, I just set up that day.

What ever happened it happened on the Meridian Flip. The Dec and RA seemed to have turned in the wrong direction after the move to the other side. This resulted in wrapping the Dec cable as well as the others wrapping around the pier. Normally my cables would be on the south side of the pier at all times. But this time the cables were wrapped around the north side. It just seems like everything was backwards.

Strangely, after I reset the mount and slewed to the East side to get back on target, everything worked fine and the mount parked after the session.

Since I do not use my hand controller at all, I think I might leave it disconnected and see if that fixes this. After all, you are able to control the mount without it. I would guess that if this works then the problem must be in the hand controller. I could just wait until I get back home and try to update it.

Floyd 


Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

Christopher Erickson
 

That is not the right program.  Go to the link I previously provided, listed again below.
 
You want the version by TechHead (Jozsef Lasar)
 
 
Jozsef does not use the acronym RAPAS but rather simply calls it the "Astro-Physics" Reticle type.

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 9:21 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Thanks Christopher,
I've completely missed that. I can't see any mention of the AP RAPAS on Polar Finder web site :-(
http://www.polarfinder.com/

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 17:28, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :
Polar Finder for Android does the AP RAPAS.
 
Apparently you missed that.
 
 
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com
 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:07 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Thanks Christopher and Geert,
Is there any app showing the Astrophysics right-angle viewfinder ?

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 09:56, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a écrit :
Polar Finder by Jozsef Lazar.
 

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com

 


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:29 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich




Re: APCC, Sequence Generator Pro, and Automated Imaging Software

Mark Striebeck
 

I played a little bit with ccdcommander and am using now sgpro. The main difference (in my opinion are):

1. Sgpro works really well out of the box. Everything you need is either part of sgpro (slew, focusing, image acquisition...) or very well integrated (guiding with phd2, plate solving).
But that means if you want to do something different, you can't. E.g. I would love to use the focusing routine of theskyx, but that's not possible.
Ccdcommander is much more flexible, but will also require more time to setup (not out of the box).

2. Sgpro allows a lot of control while running (e.g. if you notice that it's not well focused, you can easily pause the sequence, run the focusing routine again and the continue). Lots of feedback while running.
Ccdcommander doesn't have such a good ui and feature set for runtime monitoring and control.

For these reasons, i think that sgpro is great when you start with automated imaging. Easy to get going and then you can start imaging and manually correct if things don't work.

Now, after 2+ years, I might switch to something else as I would love to use more specific systems.

My $0.02

     Mark

On Feb 6, 2016 11:01 AM, "Andy Galasso andy.galasso@... [ap-gto]" <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

>>> bigeastro wrote: I have been using PHD2 with SGP.  It picks a faint star.

Although it may seem contrary to intuition, the brightest star is not always the best choice for the guiding on.  If a star is saturated, the centroid cannot be calculated with certainty.  PHD2's automatic histogram stretch can also make excellent guide stars appear dim on the screen when there are saturated stars present elsewhere in the frame. PHD2 does a histogram stretch based on the brightest and dimmest pixels in the frame, so a bright saturated star can make other stars appear dim. The actual guiding processing is done using the raw un-stretched image data. If you slide the gamma stretch slider to the left, your faint star will appear brighter (no effect on guiding). The important thing is to find a star that has a high SNR value but is not saturated, and we believe PHD2 does a pretty good job automatically selecting good guide stars.

That being said, we can't rule out a possibility that PHD2 is not handling your guide cam/scope combination optimally. We'd be glad to look into it in detail if you post your information (PHD2 debug log and sample camera frame File => Save Image) over in the PHD2 forum.

Andy


Re: Android Polar Align appli ?

christian viladrich
 

Thanks Christopher,
I've completely missed that. I can't see any mention of the AP RAPAS on Polar Finder web site :-(
http://www.polarfinder.com/

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 17:28, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a crit:

Polar Finder for Android does the AP RAPAS.
Apparently you missed that.
Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com


From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 6:07 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Thanks Christopher and Geert,
Is there any app showing the Astrophysics right-angle viewfinder ?

Christian

Le 06/02/2016 09:56, 'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [ap-gto] a crit:
Polar Finder by Jozsef Lazar.

Christopher Erickson
Consulting Engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738
www.summitkinetics.com



From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 11:29 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] Android Polar Align appli ?

Hello,

I was wondering if there was a smart phone application available on Android system for polar alignement with the Right-angle polar alignment scope ?

I can see one for iPhone and windows :

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/astro-physics-polaralign/id555953481?ls=1&mt=8
https://www.microsoft.com/fr-fr/store/apps/ap-polar-align/9nblggh0jwbx

... but none for android ?

Best regards

Christian Viladrich




Re: APCC, Sequence Generator Pro, and Automated Imaging Software

Andy Galasso
 

>>> bigeastro wrote: I have been using PHD2 with SGP.  It picks a faint star.

Although it may seem contrary to intuition, the brightest star is not always the best choice for the guiding on.  If a star is saturated, the centroid cannot be calculated with certainty.  PHD2's automatic histogram stretch can also make excellent guide stars appear dim on the screen when there are saturated stars present elsewhere in the frame. PHD2 does a histogram stretch based on the brightest and dimmest pixels in the frame, so a bright saturated star can make other stars appear dim. The actual guiding processing is done using the raw un-stretched image data. If you slide the gamma stretch slider to the left, your faint star will appear brighter (no effect on guiding). The important thing is to find a star that has a high SNR value but is not saturated, and we believe PHD2 does a pretty good job automatically selecting good guide stars.

That being said, we can't rule out a possibility that PHD2 is not handling your guide cam/scope combination optimally. We'd be glad to look into it in detail if you post your information (PHD2 debug log and sample camera frame File => Save Image) over in the PHD2 forum.

Andy


New (Beta) ASCOM Driver v8.08.05 available

Ray Gralak
 

Hello all,

A new beta ASCOM driver (v5.08.05) is available that I hope fixes a few bugs reported recently:

You can download from here:

http://www.gralak.com/apdriver

Changes include:
- BUG FIX - RA/DEC Bookmarks were not being displayed if no previous bookmarks were set in the AP.INI when moving settings to the new database settings storage.
- BUG FIX - In the setup window the site settings values could get out of sync with the database if values were changed but not saved. The driver now will now not allow the settings window to close until site settings have been saved or canceled.
- The driver defaults have been changed to now show the driver when an application connects.

Please report any problems you see on this forum.

Thanks,

-Ray Gralak
Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): http://www.astro-physics.com/index.htm?products/accessories/software/apcc/apcc
Author of PEMPro: http://www.ccdware.com
Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: http://www.gralak.com/apdriver
Author of PulseGuide: http://www.pulseguide.com
Author of Sigma: http://www.gralak.com/sigma