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Whatever happened to Digital Sky Voice?

Morgan Spangle <msfainc@...>
 

Is DSV still available? Any users who want to recommend it?
Morgan


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Richard Seavey
 

Hi Joe
I think I remember a Sky and Telescope article a few years ago that showed
the construction of such a pier top enclosure. I will try to find this
article, but maybe someone else has a better recollection of exactly which
issue it was in.

Richard

At 01:43 PM 4/8/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Hi Rick,

I have been searching the web for a "telescope-only pier housing" for a
couple of years, and this was only one of two that I have been able to find.
If you can locate any other links PLEASE post them - I really would like to
build one as well. I saw a wonderful one a few years ago, and have been
scanning the web to get it back, without much luck.

In my situation, I enjoy my lovely garden yard, where the ideal spot for
a small ready made observatory would be in the corner - where all the fruit
trees block a fair amount of the sky. I am not willing to sacrifice the
trees and ruin the enjoyment of my "day space".

I thought that a less conspicuous pier mounted telescope enclosure would
be a good compromise, with quick access to my set-up, but without a
"building blocking my view" - sort of the large white elephant in the middle
of my outdoors room.

I really hope you, or anyone else here, can share a link for this specific
kind of project.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Wiggins"
<<mailto:rickwiggins%40earthlink.net>rickwiggins@earthlink.net>
To: <<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Hi Joe,
Thanks. That is similar, but the design that I was describing only
covers the mount and is much smaller...just big enough to surround
the mount.
Thanks, Rick

--- In <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph
Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...>
wrote:

Hi Rick,

Here is a link to the Hanna City Remote Robotic Observatory,
pics and
plans:
I think that is what you were referring to as a BOX observatory.

<http://www.mtco.com/~jgunn/>http://www.mtco.com/~jgunn/

Joe


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Morgan,

Sounds great - but as for the "gate", maybe you can form the wall into a spiral (even an offset square), so the entrance is open, still hidden, but doesn't need a latched gate to handle in the dark, unless you want to keep the larger critters out of the enclosure.

The round paved walkway - leaves me to imagining a "yellow brick road" - narrowing as you enter the green observatory, for the local school "Munchkins " to come and observe the sky. Have you considered yellow bricks :-)

You are planning a "4-foot deep" footing, just for tripod legs? I was planning to bury some stone cinder blocks below grass grade, and silicone seal onto them, a set of Losmandy tripod vibration pads (which have suitably molded slots for those angled pipes), so I can just slip them in like feet into a pair of slippers. That would be a permanently repeatable position for my portable tripod set up in the yard, with anti vibration isolation from the stone surface as a bonus.

As for gravel - I stay away from gravel parking lots, at the club dark sites, because of the clay dust, and the dirt picked up on shoes and knees, not to mention stones. One night after just a few hours of observing at our dark site, in an area of gravel pit mining (during the week), I was shocked to see a large glob of clay dripped down the meniscus of my Q7 corrector, after the frost had melted and collected clay particles deposited on the lens, just from the surrounding air. There wasn't even a breeze to account for that deposition. Learned my lesson about dirty clay.

There are "pots of annuals" I was thinking about using in a circle around my spot. I forget the name of the small plant, but it smells of lemon, as a mosquito repellant. Unfortunately, a dozen pots of this annual plant, every year, can be expensive, but I will look into it.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Morgan Spangle" <msfainc@optonline.net>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:50 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors


Arborvitae is the type of evergreen I'm going to use, if you google it
you'll see an image. They're nice and dense, can be bought at the
right height (about 6') and when planted about 2' apart, give a strong
privacy hedge. I'm planning to make an enclosure about 9 x 9 feet on
the inside (unlike a building, I can always trim the walls back a bit
if needed...) and with a good solid gate in a sidewall opening that I
can lock to keep curious kids and critters out. I'm thinking that I'll
plant either grass or a low mossy-type ground cover, have a nice paved
walk to the entrance and a little paved pad inside for a computer cart
I'll wheel in when using the scope. The scope will be on a tripod with
4' deep footings - less intrusive and permanent than a big slab for
the 1200 mount on a pier. I plan a round paved walkway for viewing,
with gravel under the tripod legs and the scope and tripod covered
with Telegizmos 365 covers. Should work well, and look good too.
Money saved from building a remote observatory should buy me a Prius...
Morgan


Re: large scope covers available Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

steven hoffman <sink45ny@...>
 

Richard I'd like one of the bags. I sent me phone number directly to your email address.
Steve

Richard Crisp <rdcrisp@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I have three brand new scope covers I will offer to the first that want them,

these are more of what I had made last year.

they are 144" x 70" (open on the 70" side) and are made of SCRIM material

this is Mil Spec material as used for protecting sensitive equipment shipped on-deck on Navy ships to whereever.

here's a link to a webpage that offers more info

http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/scope_bags.htm

I only have three and they are the 70" x 144" size

I've been using these for the last two years.



Rick Wiggins <rickwiggins@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi Joe,
Thanks. That is similar, but the design that I was describing only
covers the mount and is much smaller...just big enough to surround
the mount.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...>
wrote:

Hi Rick,

Here is a link to the Hanna City Remote Robotic Observatory,
pics and
plans:
I think that is what you were referring to as a BOX observatory.

http://www.mtco.com/~jgunn/

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@...>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:34 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors


Hi Morgan,
Have you seen the little boxes that some people have made? I
wish I
had a link to them, but will attempt a brief description.

Imagine the closed position of a wooden box around just the top
of
the pier and just big enough to cover the mount. The box comes in
two pieces that fit together with overlapping weather seals. It
has
a round cutout in the bottom to fit around the pier and spring
loaded closer hasps to seal it tight when closed.

Another version has two flat pieces that fit together just below
the
mount and around the pier to form the bottom of a box and then a
top
hat box that fits over the mount and clamps to the bottom.

Top off the design with a 15 watt light bulb and some bottom vent
holes to allow minimum air flow and I think you have a winner.
Even
better, cover the mount first in a nice warm, breathable, non-
hygroscopic blanket (i.e. Gore-tex fabric) first, then cover it.

Just another idea.
Thanks, Rick







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Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Morgan Spangle <msfainc@...>
 

Arborvitae is the type of evergreen I'm going to use, if you google it
you'll see an image. They're nice and dense, can be bought at the
right height (about 6') and when planted about 2' apart, give a strong
privacy hedge. I'm planning to make an enclosure about 9 x 9 feet on
the inside (unlike a building, I can always trim the walls back a bit
if needed...) and with a good solid gate in a sidewall opening that I
can lock to keep curious kids and critters out. I'm thinking that I'll
plant either grass or a low mossy-type ground cover, have a nice paved
walk to the entrance and a little paved pad inside for a computer cart
I'll wheel in when using the scope. The scope will be on a tripod with
4' deep footings - less intrusive and permanent than a big slab for
the 1200 mount on a pier. I plan a round paved walkway for viewing,
with gravel under the tripod legs and the scope and tripod covered
with Telegizmos 365 covers. Should work well, and look good too.
Money saved from building a remote observatory should buy me a Prius...
Morgan


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...> wrote:

Sounds great,

What kind of hedge are you selecting - that will not harbour
mosquitoes,
etc.?
Do cedar trees discourage mosquitoes?

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Morgan Spangle" <msfainc@...>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors


I had thought about this. But since I also need to screen the local
house and street lights, I'm thinking about a "secret garden" - a
space enclosed by a hedge of 6' tall arborvitae, accessed by a gate in
one of the hedge walls. This would provide shelter from wind and
light; security; temperature equilibrium for scope and mount; and
allow me to place it on the best spot on my property - without the
neighborhood watch group getting upset! Even the wife has given the
thumbs up...so I'll keep you all posted as I go ahead.
Morgan


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi Rick,

I have been searching the web for a "telescope-only pier housing" for a couple of years, and this was only one of two that I have been able to find. If you can locate any other links PLEASE post them - I really would like to build one as well. I saw a wonderful one a few years ago, and have been scanning the web to get it back, without much luck.

In my situation, I enjoy my lovely garden yard, where the ideal spot for a small ready made observatory would be in the corner - where all the fruit trees block a fair amount of the sky. I am not willing to sacrifice the trees and ruin the enjoyment of my "day space".

I thought that a less conspicuous pier mounted telescope enclosure would be a good compromise, with quick access to my set-up, but without a "building blocking my view" - sort of the large white elephant in the middle of my outdoors room.

I really hope you, or anyone else here, can share a link for this specific kind of project.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@earthlink.net>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:27 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors


Hi Joe,
Thanks. That is similar, but the design that I was describing only
covers the mount and is much smaller...just big enough to surround
the mount.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...>
wrote:

Hi Rick,

Here is a link to the Hanna City Remote Robotic Observatory,
pics and
plans:
I think that is what you were referring to as a BOX observatory.

http://www.mtco.com/~jgunn/

Joe


large scope covers available Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Richard Crisp
 

I have three brand new scope covers I will offer to the first that want them,

these are more of what I had made last year.

they are 144" x 70" (open on the 70" side) and are made of SCRIM material

this is Mil Spec material as used for protecting sensitive equipment shipped on-deck on Navy ships to whereever.

here's a link to a webpage that offers more info

http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/scope_bags.htm

I only have three and they are the 70" x 144" size

I've been using these for the last two years.



Rick Wiggins <rickwiggins@earthlink.net> wrote:
Hi Joe,
Thanks. That is similar, but the design that I was describing only
covers the mount and is much smaller...just big enough to surround
the mount.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...>
wrote:

Hi Rick,

Here is a link to the Hanna City Remote Robotic Observatory,
pics and
plans:
I think that is what you were referring to as a BOX observatory.

http://www.mtco.com/~jgunn/

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@...>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:34 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors


Hi Morgan,
Have you seen the little boxes that some people have made? I
wish I
had a link to them, but will attempt a brief description.

Imagine the closed position of a wooden box around just the top
of
the pier and just big enough to cover the mount. The box comes in
two pieces that fit together with overlapping weather seals. It
has
a round cutout in the bottom to fit around the pier and spring
loaded closer hasps to seal it tight when closed.

Another version has two flat pieces that fit together just below
the
mount and around the pier to form the bottom of a box and then a
top
hat box that fits over the mount and clamps to the bottom.

Top off the design with a 15 watt light bulb and some bottom vent
holes to allow minimum air flow and I think you have a winner.
Even
better, cover the mount first in a nice warm, breathable, non-
hygroscopic blanket (i.e. Gore-tex fabric) first, then cover it.

Just another idea.
Thanks, Rick


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Wiggins, Rick
 

Hi Morgan,
Be carefule with that. Many times "unheated buildings" are much
warmer than outdoor ambient and also differ in humidity. My garage
will lbe at least 20 degrees warmer than outside on a cold day and
the humidity will be 20% or more less than outside.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Morgan Spangle" <msfainc@...> wrote:

Hi Mark,

I like the suggestion about removing the electronics to a garage or
unheated building - I could do that easily. Thanks for all the
tips...
Morgan

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Clegg" <Mark63clegg@> wrote:

Morgan,

I have had a AP1200GTO for 7 years now, kept in a observatory
here at
my home since day one. The observatory has no heating or
cooling,
just
a small exhaust fan to pull hot air out when the space reaches
100
degrees in the summer. The scope and mount are always near
ambient
temperature, this seems to work well and means quick set-up
times.

The only issues I have experienced during the past 5 years is a
few
keypad resetting problems and several intermittent power
problems.
All
of the problems I have seen were due to oxidation on the pin
connectors
on the electronics.

I would think twice about bringing the electronics (keypad and
control
box) into a heated space after an observing session during cold
weather, this will eventually create problems with the
electronics
due
to condensation. These left in a out building or garage at near
ambient
would be best.

Most important.. I have found that reseating the pin connections
on a
regular basis, every 3-4 months works best for me... is
essential for
maintaining continunity at all electrical connections if the
mount
remains in the elements (event if it is in a observatory). I
also
check and clean all electrical connections at least once a year
to
prevent intermittent problems.

Mark Clegg
Pittsboro, N.C.






--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, Morgan Spangle <msfainc@> wrote:

I'm considering leaving my APO 1200 GTO outdoors over the
winter,
so
that setup/knockdown time is lessened, and since I use it by
remote
control to image anyway. I'm in the Northeast, so we do get
rain,
cold, and snow; I'd have a pretty good over bungeed to the
mount
to
protect it, and could even keep a lightbulb going all the time
to
keep moisture from accumulating under the cover. What's the
group's
opinion?


Morgan Spangle


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Wiggins, Rick
 

Hi Joe,
Thanks. That is similar, but the design that I was describing only
covers the mount and is much smaller...just big enough to surround
the mount.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...>
wrote:

Hi Rick,

Here is a link to the Hanna City Remote Robotic Observatory,
pics and
plans:
I think that is what you were referring to as a BOX observatory.

http://www.mtco.com/~jgunn/

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Wiggins" <rickwiggins@...>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:34 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors


Hi Morgan,
Have you seen the little boxes that some people have made? I
wish I
had a link to them, but will attempt a brief description.

Imagine the closed position of a wooden box around just the top
of
the pier and just big enough to cover the mount. The box comes in
two pieces that fit together with overlapping weather seals. It
has
a round cutout in the bottom to fit around the pier and spring
loaded closer hasps to seal it tight when closed.

Another version has two flat pieces that fit together just below
the
mount and around the pier to form the bottom of a box and then a
top
hat box that fits over the mount and clamps to the bottom.

Top off the design with a 15 watt light bulb and some bottom vent
holes to allow minimum air flow and I think you have a winner.
Even
better, cover the mount first in a nice warm, breathable, non-
hygroscopic blanket (i.e. Gore-tex fabric) first, then cover it.

Just another idea.
Thanks, Rick


Re: Mach1GTO Cable Routing

Howard Hedlund
 

Hello Bruce,



There is no right or wrong way to run the cables inside the Mach1GTO.
Do whatever works best for you with your equipment and situation. I
have rather large hands and fat fingers, so removing the Polar Scope
Adapter makes the process a bit easier for me. My preference for the
RA Axis Cover instead of the Polar Scope Hole is because I use a polar
scope to get my alignment close every time I set up. I carry the mount
out of my garage on its tripod with the cables attached and the polar
scope already in place. I set the wood tripod feet on the "cheater"
marks that I made on the driveway, and I'm usually within a minor tweak
or two of adequate alignment for accurate GoTo's. The section on
through-the-mount cabling in the manual was intended as a guide with
some suggestions. Don't take it as a rule book!



Mag. 7 skies!



Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

________________________________

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of reddbarron2000
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 8:17 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] Mach1GTO Cable Routing



1. When running cables through the mount, is that any reason to remove
the polar scope adapter rather than feeding the cables through the
polar scope hole?

2. The manual recommends feeding the Y-cable out the RA Access Hole
and running the control box end of the cable externally. Is there a
reason not to feed the control box end of the Y-cable out the polar
scope hole and just have the RA end of the cable go out through the RA
Access Hole? The would permit better harnessing of all of the cables
coming out of the mount.

Bruce


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 4/8/2008 1:07:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
msfainc@optonline.net writes:


Money saved from building a remote observatory should buy me a Prius...
Save for a Chevy Volt ;^)

Rolando


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Re: Insurance for astronomy equipment

elraeburn
 

My State Farm agent told me several years ago to photograph any
"unusual" items. Replacing a TV is easy for them to do; replacing an
AP refractor is not. They don't generally deal with such gems, so the
more information you can provide in case of a loss, the easier it will
be should you need to file a claim.

I keep detailed photos of my astronomical and musical equipment locked
in a drawer at work, where they won't be damaged in a catastrophic
loss at home. As a possibly-useful aside, it is more difficult to
document the value of a vintage saxophone than a pristine AP scope, so
I periodically get my musical instruments reappraised by a qualified
repair person.

-Eric


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "mizzou156" <mizzou156@...> wrote:

Hello,
Does anyone have the name of a good insurance company that will
insure mounts,
telescopes, ccd cameras, ect. Homeowners insurance won't cover it
and I would want full
replacement cost, should a loss occur. Any help would be
appreciated. Thank You


Re: Insurance for astronomy equipment

Dean S
 

I just spoke with my home owners insurance this morning, State Farm, and she
said my observatory contents are included with the content coverage of my
house. Cameras, telescopes, computers, etc.

And as long as it is just a hobby there is no additional coverage needed,
assuming it is enough overall. However to be safe I am looking into adding
this as an addition to be absolutely sure there would be no hidden
exclusions.

Dean
www.doghouseastronomy.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "mizzou156" <mizzou156@yahoo.com>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Insurance for astronomy equipment


Hello,
Does anyone have the name of a good insurance company that will insure
mounts,
telescopes, ccd cameras, ect. Homeowners insurance won't cover it and I
would want full
replacement cost, should a loss occur. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank You


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Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Dale Ghent
 

On Apr 7, 2008, at 9:45 PM, Joseph Zeglinski wrote:
Sounds great,

What kind of hedge are you selecting - that will not harbour mosquitoes,
etc.?
Do cedar trees discourage mosquitoes?
Having lived in Tiger Mosquito-infested (which is in turn West Nile Virus-infested) Baltimore, MD... the big thing to do with mosquitoes is to eliminate any areas of standing water - from bird baths to catch basins under potted plants and clogged rain gutters - and inform the neighbors of the benefits of them doing the same. If you have a garden pond, stock it with Koi fish as the find mosquito larvae quite the snack.

As for natural repellant, lemon grass does the job well and smells good, to boot. Grows much faster than a cedar tree and is a good landscaping grass in most north american climes... well, the ones where mosquitoes tend to be a real nuisance anyway.

I'm trying to figure out how to work something AP-GTO into here to keep it at least semi-on topic but I'm failing ;)

/dale


Re: Insurance for astronomy equipment

Bill Bradford
 

Rick makes a good point about agents and underwriters. If you are dealing with a particular agent and cannot get the coverage you want, you need to try other agents that have better knowledge of underwriters that will cover your items or that are willing to simply work harder at finding an underwriter that will cover your items.

I use a State Farm agent that works hard to find the appropriate coverage. I had to change companies to get the coverage I wanted.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Wiggins
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Insurance for astronomy equipment


Hi,
I will post the short version here. Please be aware that
the "Insurance Company" is rarely the company that actully writes the
policy and provides the protection. This and the following explains
the variation in coverage etc.
1. The consumer buys coverage from an individual or company.
2. The selling agent that we (the consumer) deal with may work for a
large insurance company (i.e. State Farm), a small company, or be
totally a one person operation.
3. The actual insurance policy is provided by an underwriter (the
actual insuring agency) and this is usually tranparent to the
consumer. This underwriter could be the large insurance company itself
or any one of hundreds of underwriters all over the world.
4. It is common for agents and companies to deal with multiple
underwriters to get the most appropriate and best deal for each
individual policy.
5. There are state and possibly other governing bodies that legislate
some restrictions in some areas.
This means that "State Farm is not State Farm" and you milage may vary.
The best advice is to check your policy, call around, and read any
policy very carefully. If you don't understand it, get a friend
(preferably an agent or broker) to help you understand the policy.

Getting insurance on observatories is difficult...more difficult of
off your residential property...and far more difficult if it is on
someone else's property.

I would be seriously concerned if your homeowner's policy did not
cover a modest amount of astronomy equipment (personal property kept
at home or traveling with you). If they don;'t cover this, what else
don't they cover?

I am not an agent and I am still looking for a good observatory
policy, but this is my current understanding.
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "mizzou156" <mizzou156@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> Does anyone have the name of a good insurance company that will
insure mounts,
> telescopes, ccd cameras, ect. Homeowners insurance won't cover it
and I would want full
> replacement cost, should a loss occur. Any help would be
appreciated. Thank You
>


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Joe Zeglinski
 

Sounds great,

What kind of hedge are you selecting - that will not harbour mosquitoes, etc.?
Do cedar trees discourage mosquitoes?

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Morgan Spangle" <msfainc@optonline.net>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 9:36 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors


I had thought about this. But since I also need to screen the local
house and street lights, I'm thinking about a "secret garden" - a
space enclosed by a hedge of 6' tall arborvitae, accessed by a gate in
one of the hedge walls. This would provide shelter from wind and
light; security; temperature equilibrium for scope and mount; and
allow me to place it on the best spot on my property - without the
neighborhood watch group getting upset! Even the wife has given the
thumbs up...so I'll keep you all posted as I go ahead.
Morgan


Re: Insurance for astronomy equipment

Bill Bradford
 

That's a great idea, Stuart. I am going to start a similar spreadsheet.

I have to provide sales invoices to put items on the policy but I need to keep up with changing values.

Bill

BTW, if I buy something on AM, they just need to see a photo of the item and some documentation on its market value.

----- Original Message -----
From: S HEGGIE
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Insurance for astronomy equipment


Something else I do is maintain a spreadsheet of serial #'s and market
pricing for all items. I give this to my insurance company anytime something
major changes. I don't want to get into a debate on the insured value of
something that gets stolen. Also, I found out that when you say "camera" or
"bicycle" they assume it is cheap - some items over a particular value
(bicycle over $1000 for example) they want to see a copy of the receipt.

Stuart

>From: "Dean S" <dean@cwdi.com>
>Reply-To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
>To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Insurance for astronomy equipment
>Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 00:30:18 -0400
>
>I just spoke with my home owners insurance this morning, State Farm, and
>she
>said my observatory contents are included with the content coverage of my
>house. Cameras, telescopes, computers, etc.
>
>And as long as it is just a hobby there is no additional coverage needed,
>assuming it is enough overall. However to be safe I am looking into adding
>this as an addition to be absolutely sure there would be no hidden
>exclusions.
>
>Dean
>www.doghouseastronomy.com
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "mizzou156" <mizzou156@yahoo.com>
>To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:10 PM
>Subject: [ap-gto] Insurance for astronomy equipment
>
>
> > Hello,
> > Does anyone have the name of a good insurance company that will
>insure
>mounts,
> > telescopes, ccd cameras, ect. Homeowners insurance won't cover it and I
>would want full
> > replacement cost, should a loss occur. Any help would be appreciated.
>Thank You
> >
> >
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Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Morgan Spangle <msfainc@...>
 

I had thought about this. But since I also need to screen the local
house and street lights, I'm thinking about a "secret garden" - a
space enclosed by a hedge of 6' tall arborvitae, accessed by a gate in
one of the hedge walls. This would provide shelter from wind and
light; security; temperature equilibrium for scope and mount; and
allow me to place it on the best spot on my property - without the
neighborhood watch group getting upset! Even the wife has given the
thumbs up...so I'll keep you all posted as I go ahead.
Morgan

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "tucstargzr" <tucstargzr@...> wrote:

Hi Morgan,

How are your town ordinances in regards to "art"? You might be
able to make a stable pier which "transforms" into a Telescope Mount
at night while looking like (IE) Miniature Lighthouse by day.
Amazing what a box made from plywood can be painted to resemble or
how easy Stucco sticks to Styrofoam and chicken wire.

At night, you unbuckle/remove the top that protects your "Thermo-
Nuclear Concentrator".

I'm NOT advocating you try to hoodwink or defraud. Some city
halls/HOA are notorious for denying projects that have unfamiliar
names in them. While a small shed in the front yard is unattractive,
a small garage isn't.

Tom


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Morgan Spangle" <msfainc@> wrote:

Hi Steve,
Would if I could but can't so...the best area is in the front of my
house, and the town won't allow any kind of shed in a front area.
So
my choice is to leave the mount out in an area of the garden next
to
the driveway that I will wall off from view with a dense hedge.
I'll
drop some footings in for the tripod feet (I use a Meade giant
field
tripod, very solid) and plant some kind of ground cover I can walk
on
or grass. Run electric to it from the garage, make a path for a
dolly
to bring the computer and other equipment out (maybe even the OTA,
not
sure whether I'll load it each time or leave it mounted and covered
too), and I can be set up, polar aligned and ready to go in 5
minutes...at least, thats the plan so far. I've got all spring and
summer to work it out. Its really to avoid the winter
setup/breakdown,
like you've done the the Out Haus.

Morgan

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Steve..." <astropix@> wrote:

I should have said "structure" rather than "shell".

You can see mine here....

http://www.starrynights.us/Equipment/Equipment.htm

Steve...

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Morgan Spangle" <msfainc@> wrote:

Hmmm...that's an interesting thought. What kind of hard shell
did
you
come up with? I have a C14 on mine so it would take a pretty
good
sized barrel or drum...
Morgan

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Steve..." <astropix@> wrote:

Morgan,

For a time, I kept my AP1200 with OTA in a bag. We had some
high
winds
and something flying in the air hit the OTA putting a dent
into
it.

So I recommend a hard shell rather than a bag. I believe
that
even
these newer padded bags would still sustain damage from a
flying
object.

Steve...

www.CCDNavigator.com


Re: Insurance for astronomy equipment

Bill Bradford
 

As I posted earlier, I also have State Farm but have a Personal Articles policy that includes not only the astronomy equipment but other high value items.

I wonder if they are putting yours under your homeowner's policy because the observatory is a structure on your property. I don't have an observatory and travel to dark sites, so I wanted something to cover my equipment anywhere it happens to be. My coverage is for replacement value and the rate is quite reasonable.

Of course, I'm in Texas and we have some weird insurance regulations in this state :>), so my circumstance may not apply to those in other states.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: Dean S
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Insurance for astronomy equipment


I just spoke with my home owners insurance this morning, State Farm, and she
said my observatory contents are included with the content coverage of my
house. Cameras, telescopes, computers, etc.

And as long as it is just a hobby there is no additional coverage needed,
assuming it is enough overall. However to be safe I am looking into adding
this as an addition to be absolutely sure there would be no hidden
exclusions.

Dean
www.doghouseastronomy.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "mizzou156" <mizzou156@yahoo.com>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Insurance for astronomy equipment

> Hello,
> Does anyone have the name of a good insurance company that will insure
mounts,
> telescopes, ccd cameras, ect. Homeowners insurance won't cover it and I
would want full
> replacement cost, should a loss occur. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank You
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list
> see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gtoYahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


Re: Leaving as GTO mount outdoors

Morgan Spangle <msfainc@...>
 

Hi Mark,

I like the suggestion about removing the electronics to a garage or
unheated building - I could do that easily. Thanks for all the tips...
Morgan

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Clegg" <Mark63clegg@...> wrote:

Morgan,

I have had a AP1200GTO for 7 years now, kept in a observatory here at
my home since day one. The observatory has no heating or cooling,
just
a small exhaust fan to pull hot air out when the space reaches >100
degrees in the summer. The scope and mount are always near ambient
temperature, this seems to work well and means quick set-up times.

The only issues I have experienced during the past 5 years is a few
keypad resetting problems and several intermittent power problems.
All
of the problems I have seen were due to oxidation on the pin
connectors
on the electronics.

I would think twice about bringing the electronics (keypad and
control
box) into a heated space after an observing session during cold
weather, this will eventually create problems with the electronics
due
to condensation. These left in a out building or garage at near
ambient
would be best.

Most important.. I have found that reseating the pin connections on a
regular basis, every 3-4 months works best for me... is essential for
maintaining continunity at all electrical connections if the mount
remains in the elements (event if it is in a observatory). I also
check and clean all electrical connections at least once a year to
prevent intermittent problems.

Mark Clegg
Pittsboro, N.C.






--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, Morgan Spangle <msfainc@> wrote:

I'm considering leaving my APO 1200 GTO outdoors over the winter,
so
that setup/knockdown time is lessened, and since I use it by
remote
control to image anyway. I'm in the Northeast, so we do get rain,
cold, and snow; I'd have a pretty good over bungeed to the mount
to
protect it, and could even keep a lightbulb going all the time to
keep moisture from accumulating under the cover. What's the
group's
opinion?


Morgan Spangle