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Polar Align Max

Dean Salman <cluster@...>
 

After reading the help file, I was able to polar align in about 10
minutes with in 15 arc sec of the pole in both directions. What made
the task easier is the heavy az adjustor because I know how much to
move the mount exactly and it only took one ajustment to do it.


Re: Mount does not stop Update

Dean Salman <cluster@...>
 

This is now serious problem. I have changed power supplies and there
seems to be no issue with the gears. The software in the mount is
4.0x, is that the problem. This happens at any speed including 1x and
both axis. I do know someone with a 1200 mount near by so I guess I
can change out parts but this is looking like a mount issue, not the
control box or key pad.

--- In ap-gto@..., "Dean Salman" <cluster@...> wrote:

When I use the keypad, sometimes the mount will continue to slew so I
have to press stop. I thought it was the key pad but PulseGuide did
the same thing without the keypad. Someone told me it was in the
controler box. So far I have not seen this using the Sky or CCD
Commander. Anyway thoughts ?

Dean


Re: Polar Align Max

Kent Kirkley
 

In a message dated 8/12/07 2:29:52 PM, cluster@... writes:


After reading the help file, I was able to polar align in about 10
minutes with in 15 arc sec of the pole in both directions.  What made
the task easier is the heavy az adjustor because I know how much to
move the mount exactly and it only took one ajustment to do it. 
Great Dean:
I've got it, I just haven't tried using it......guess I will now.

Kent Kirkley




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Sharpless 2-54 in Halpha

Richard Crisp
 

this is 4 x 20 minutes of halpha from the stinger cassegrain at f/7.2 roughly. It was shot using the 4.5nm CS Ha filter and FLI IMG1024S Dream Machine from my backyard in Castro Valley

I shot a bit of oxygen last night but the clouds shut me down after two frames and one was foggy

this is going to be another "project": I can just tell...

http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/sh2_54_mk1sn2_dm_geg_cs4_ha_page.htm


Sharpless 2-119 in halpha

Richard Crisp
 

this is just getting started but looks pretty interesting to me. There's the big bright nebula in the middle but there's lots of faint dark nebulosity all around the area. This is just west of NGC7000

http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/sh2_119_p300_6303_baader_ha_page.htm

it is just 1h 20 minutes exposure through halpha from the backyard (4x20 minutes). then it got cloudy :-(

I used a 300mm camera lens (6x7 smc pentax 300mm f/4 wide open) and the baader halpha filter with the img6303e camera; all mounted on my AP1200GTO using my home built camera lens frame etc:

http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/widefield_page.htm


veil widefield

Richard Crisp
 

i added some exposure time to a previous image

the background is less grainy now and there's a bit more nebulosity visible than the previous checkpoint

there are a lot of stars in this baby!

http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/veil_p300_6303_baader_hao3s2_page.htm

i used a 300mm f/4 medium format Pentax lens wide open for this image


Re: PEMPro questions

Chris Curran <curran.chris@...>
 

Ray,

May I suggest that ccdware post a note on that page letting PEMProAP
users that the upgrade does not apply to them? I almost clicked on it
and bought it a few days ago (before I asked here). That would have
been a mistake that might have been difficult to correct....

cheers,
Chris

--- In ap-gto@..., "Ray Gralak" <rgr@...> wrote:

Joe,

Users with a V1.x license can upgrade for $75. Go to the link below
and scroll
down to "Software upgrades":

http://www.ccdware.com/buy/

-Ray


upgrade policy was Re: Re: PEMPro questions

Chris Curran <curran.chris@...>
 

Sorry - I don't follow many threads and I didn't mean to bring up
something that folks are already fighting over (Peyton Place isn't on
my viewing list). I just didn't know what the policy was for those of
us with the AP PEMPro edition. Yes, I am very disappointed that there
is no upgrade path for the AP edition of PEMPro. Seems like ccdware
would want the revenue stream, but it's not my business and I never
liked folks telling me how to run mine, so I won't try to tell someone
else how to run theirs....

cheers,
Chris Curran

--- In ap-gto@..., Derek Wong <dawong@...> wrote:

Hello:

We have all watched this thinly veiled fight, which is a spillover from
other forums, go on for the last several days. While most of us love
seeing great images produced on ap-gto mounts, we do not appreciate tit
for tat behavior (even under the guise of intelligent discussion) on
this forum. If you cannot moderate yourselves, we will do it for you.

Thanks,

Derek


Re: Mount does not stop

Jeff Young <jey@...>
 

Howard --

No worries. It's only for a spare.

Cheers,
-- Jeff.



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From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of Howard
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 6:46 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: Mount does not stop



Hey Jeff!

Sorry for the mix-up. I talked to Alice, and the cable is being
sent
out today. (I went back and got it myself.) Apparently Roland
must
have interfered with the office staff at the time of your order
and
thrown everything onto a state of chaos! ;-)

Mag. 7 skies!

Howard Hedlund

Astro-Physics, Inc.

815-282-1513

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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:47 AM
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Mount does not stop

In a message dated 8/10/2007 2:54:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
jey@... <mailto:jey%40adobe.com> <mailto:jey%40adobe.com>

writes:

> Um... that would be your office.

I'm not in the office myself. The office staff won't let me
interfere
(otherwise there would be chaos for sure!)

>
> But I'll give Alice or Howard a jingle.

Good idea. Howard is very knowledgeable on technical aspects and
Alice
is
always on top of orders and delivery info.

Me - I know nothing, nothing ....

Rolando

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Re: Mount does not stop

Howard Hedlund
 

Hey Jeff!



Sorry for the mix-up. I talked to Alice, and the cable is being sent
out today. (I went back and got it myself.) Apparently Roland must
have interfered with the office staff at the time of your order and
thrown everything onto a state of chaos! ;-)



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From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On Behalf
Of chris1011@...
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 11:47 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Mount does not stop



In a message dated 8/10/2007 2:54:41 AM Central Daylight Time,
jey@... <mailto:jey%40adobe.com>
writes:

Um... that would be your office.
I'm not in the office myself. The office staff won't let me interfere
(otherwise there would be chaos for sure!)


But I'll give Alice or Howard a jingle.
Good idea. Howard is very knowledgeable on technical aspects and Alice
is
always on top of orders and delivery info.

Me - I know nothing, nothing ....

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Re: multispectral imaging was RE: Re: New images with the 140EDF refractor

Rick Thurmond
 

I might be interested in whether the bird was approaching me or leaving
me. Or perhaps rotating. How difficult would it be to find some
narrowband filters tuned a little above or below laboratory emission line
values so you could do doppler imaging? Could that be done with an
amateur scope?

If I were to want to image a bird for scientific purposes I'd probably be
interested in a thermal profile, an optical profile and possibly a UV
reflectivity profile if it were imaged in the outdoors in the sun. It
might be interesting to examine the bird in polarized light too. You never
know until you try.

In short in knowing a thing or two about the target, I would choose the
appropriate wavelengths to do a multi or hyperspectral analysis of the
bird.

By analogy when one uses nebular diagnostic filters, as narrowband
emission line filters are occasionally called by scientists, for imaging
nebulae, you actually deconstruct the nebula and can observe features
that may otherwise be obscured by broadband radiation.

an example of alternate ways to image the same object can be found in
this image, all shot from my backyard in mag 3 light polluted skies with
my 18" defective telescope mounted on an AP1200GTO mount and guided with
an ST7E on a lumicon giant easy guider with reducer.

http://www.narrowbandimaging.com/images/crisp_crab_5_ways_to_sunday_vga.jpg

each method was specifically chosen to reveal different aspects of this
most interesting laboratory in the sky.

I just like having a toolkit to let me do something a bit off the well
travelled road for the sheer adventure of the journey.


Jeff Young <jey@...> wrote:
> I wonder what kind of reaction you would get if you could
image a bird
in Ha,
SII, and OIII and manipulated the mapped colors so that the result
looked cool?
I think maybe it would look artistic but I think people would want to
see the
real colors.
I dunno. I think Andy Warhol's stuff commands a higher price than Ansel
Adams'.

But I do agree that a narrowband image should be obviously labelled
(somehow).
That's one problem Mr. Warhol didn't have as he chose everyday objects
-- so
his viewers knew what they were "supposed" to look like.

-- Jeff.


________________________________

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:33 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: New images with the 140EDF refractor



I don't think they find much value in RGB or LRGB images.

I find them exceedingly boring quite frankly.
You may find them boring but unlike false color images they
attempt to reflect
reality. :-)

I wonder what kind of reaction you would get if you could image
a bird in Ha,
SII, and OIII and manipulated the mapped colors so that the
result looked cool?
I think maybe it would look artistic but I think people would
want to see the
real colors.

-Ray















Re: PEMPro questions

Joe Mize
 

Thkx Ray, my apologies I saw the Buy section with PemPro 2.0 but no Upgrades. The Software Upgrades section was just below the
bottom of the displayed page. I almost missed it again this morning like I had when I looked previously. Thkx again...joe :)


"May You Go Among The Imperishable Stars"

Joe Mize
StarFields Observatory http://www.cav-sfo.com/
Chiefland, FL 29:24'33.4"N 82:51'37.7"W

------- Original Message -------
From : Ray Gralak[mailto:rgr@...]
Sent : 8/9/2007 11:19:52 PM
To : ap-gto@...
Cc :
Subject : RE: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro questions

Joe,

Users with a V1.x license can upgrade for $75. Go to the link below and scroll
down to "Software upgrades":

http://www.ccdware.com/buy/

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [ mailto:ap-gto@...]
On Behalf Of jmize@...
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:56 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro questions

Ray did I understand what you're saying? There's currently no
"Upgrade" rout for owners who paid the full commercial price
without buying another complete new $149 program? Ouch!

I liked PemProAP so much I bought the commercial version. I'd
surely like to upgrade my Version 1.70 - Feb 26, 2007 (Build 147),
to Version 2.0 even if I have to pay an "Upgrade" price, I
cannot justify buying another complete program.

I couldn't find anything on the CCDware web page about
Upgrades. Is an Upgrade offer even being discussed?...joe :)

"May You Go Among The Imperishable Stars"

Joe Mize
StarFields Observatory http://www.cav-sfo.com/
< http://www.cav-sfo.com/>
Chiefland, FL 29:24'33.4"N 82:51'37.7"W

------- Original Message -------
From : Ray Gralak[ mailto:rgr@... < mailto:rgr%40gralak.com> ]
Sent : 8/9/2007 11:51:45 AM
To : ap-gto@... < mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc :
Subject : RE: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro questions

Thanks Howard, that is correct!

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@...
< mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> [
mailto:ap-gto@... < mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of howard4ap
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:10 AM
To: ap-gto@... < mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro questions

Hey Joe,

The latest build of the full version without going to v.2.0
is build
147. Build 149 pertains only to the A-P Special Edition.

Howard

--- In ap-gto@... < mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
< mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "jmize@..." <jmize@...> wrote:

Ray, when I ran Check for Updates my full version PemPro
reported I
have the latest release, ver. 1.70 Build 147, 02-26-2007.
You said below the latest release is Build 149. Is there some
place special where to check for the latest release?
Thkx...joe :)


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< http://www.cav-sfo.com/ < http://www.cav-sfo.com/> >
Chiefland, FL 29:24'33.4"N 82:51'37.7"W


------- Original Message -------
From : Ray Gralak[ mailto:rgr@...]
Sent : 8/9/2007 9:42:28 AM
To : ap-gto@...
< mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> < mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc :
Subject : RE: [ap-gto] PEMPro questions

Hi Chris,

1) What is the current version of the AP edition of PEMPro?
The current version is V1.7 Build 149. You can use the check for
updates feature
in the Help menu to get the latest version if you do not have it.

2) What does PEMPro v2 do that the special edition doesn't?
The special edition is designed to work specifically with AP GTO
Mounts with the
GTOCP3 controller. You will not be able to use it with
other mounts
including
older AP mounts with GTOCP2 and GTOCP1 controllers. Also
you cannot
use PEMPro's
refine curve feature.

V2 adds new functionality including a Polar Alignment Wizard, a
Backlash
exerciser (PulseGuide already has a tool for this), a Star Finder
utility, and
native support for webcams (so you can use PEMPro without
having to
buy an
expensive 3rd-party CCD program).

3) As an AP owner that got version 1.something with my
mount, am I
eligible to purchase the v2 upgrade? Can I install a dl'ed
version of
v2 or would I need a "special" upgrade also?
For V.1x there was an upgrade path from the AP version to
the full
version, but
I do not think AP and CCDWare (the publisher) have talked
about an
upgrade path
to V2. Of course you can download a 60-day trial of the full
version from the
CCDWare site ( http://www.ccdware.com < http://www.ccdware.com>
< http://www.ccdware.com < http://www.ccdware.com> > ).
Additional questions about
the full
version should be posted to the PEMPro forum:
http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x
< http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x>
< http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x
< http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x> >

-Ray Gralak
Author of PulseGuide and PEMPro




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Sim 3-188 - SNR in Cygnus

ayiomamitis
 

Dear group,

Fortunate to have a really good string of great weather and good
seeing, I sat down last night to pursue Pickering's Triangle (aka Sim
3-188) within the Veil Complex.

I pursued an LRGB approach (108:60:60:60) and it is obvious that the
plethora of stars is becoming a distraction. I must revisit using an
h-alpha approach.

For a glimpse of last night's effort, I kindly direct you to
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-Nebulae-Sim-3-188.htm . It was also my
first use of the AP 0.75x TVPH reducer and I would like to sit down at
some point for some plate solving so as to get the precise reduction
the unit offers.

Anthony.


Re: Mount does not stop

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 8/10/2007 2:54:41 AM Central Daylight Time, jey@...
writes:


Um... that would be your office.
I'm not in the office myself. The office staff won't let me interfere
(otherwise there would be chaos for sure!)


But I'll give Alice or Howard a jingle.
Good idea. Howard is very knowledgeable on technical aspects and Alice is
always on top of orders and delivery info.

Me - I know nothing, nothing ....

Rolando


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Re: NGC 6995/IC 1340 - SNR in Cygnus

ayiomamitis
 

Hi Ray,

I am with you surrounding the earlier discussion of RGB vs narrowband.
However, I do understand and respect the need for the latter when
someone is burdened with light-pollution.

As a result, RGB is my modus operandi for now given my decent skies.

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@..., "Ray Gralak" <rgr@...> wrote:

Hi Anthony,

I just got a chance to look at your image. I think it is very nicely
done and
exciting, even though it is a RGB image! :-) :-)

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
On Behalf Of ayiomamitis
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:37 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: [ap-gto] NGC 6995/IC 1340 - SNR in Cygnus

Dear group,

I have always had a weakness for the Veil complex and last night I
sat down to acquire 4.5 hours of total exposure data (LRGB @
90:60:60:60) for the southeastern portion which comprises of NGC 6995
and IC 1340. I would have liked a little more RGB exposure data but
the OTA and pier got too close for comfort.

The result is available at
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-NGC-6995.htm
<http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-NGC-6995.htm> ... it is one of the
relatively few situations where green does show up as part of the
visual spectrum in relation to a DSO object.

Anthony.





Re: Mount does not stop

Jeff Young <jey@...>
 

Roland --

Um... that would be your office.

But I'll give Alice or Howard a jingle.

Thanks,
-- Jeff.



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From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of chris1011@...
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:43 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Mount does not stop



In a message dated 8/9/2007 1:16:03 PM Central Daylight Time,
jey@... <mailto:jey%40adobe.com>
writes:

> Speaking of spares, I have some servo-to-motor cable on
back-order. Did
> it ever come in?

I donno. You might want to ask the office with whom you
originally ordered
the part.

Rolando

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Re: New images with the 140EDF refractor

Peter Santangeli
 

Different strokes for different folks.

I personally find narrow band images pretty unattractive. But I have no ambitions to do
science, which is difficult, but clearly possible for amateurs - just ask the many comet
discoverers that are still successful in this day of automated surveys. I would not cast
public dispersions on those who take narrow band - it's a hobby. To each his own.

A good observational astronomer friend of mine once asked me what the point was in
taking (RGB) pictures of something that had been taken a million times before. The
conversation sort of went like this:

Friend: Yet another picture of M31?!
Me: Yeah. It'll be better this year.
Friend: But hasn't it been photographed a million times?
Me: Yeah. By the way, did you say you had been to the Grand Canyon?
Friend: Yes, years ago.
Me: Did you take pictures?
Friend: Of course!.... oh...

Whatever floats your boat.

pete

--- In ap-gto@..., "Jeff Young" <jey@...> wrote:

I wonder what kind of reaction you would get if you could image a bird
in Ha,
SII, and OIII and manipulated the mapped colors so that the result
looked cool?
I think maybe it would look artistic but I think people would want to
see the
real colors.
I dunno. I think Andy Warhol's stuff commands a higher price than Ansel
Adams'.

But I do agree that a narrowband image should be obviously labelled
(somehow).
That's one problem Mr. Warhol didn't have as he chose everyday objects
-- so
his viewers knew what they were "supposed" to look like.

-- Jeff.



________________________________

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of Ray Gralak
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:33 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: New images with the 140EDF refractor



> I don't think they find much value in RGB or LRGB images.
>
> I find them exceedingly boring quite frankly.

You may find them boring but unlike false color images they
attempt to reflect
reality. :-)

I wonder what kind of reaction you would get if you could image
a bird in Ha,
SII, and OIII and manipulated the mapped colors so that the
result looked cool?
I think maybe it would look artistic but I think people would
want to see the
real colors.

-Ray









Re: Mount does not stop

Joe Zeglinski
 

So ... an intermittent problem - could it be a bad cable connection, in that
case? Give them a shake, and see if the problem returns. Perhaps the Y-cable
connector was just pushed on, rather than fully tightened down. Otherwise, it
will get you, just when you need the mount to work.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean Salman" <cluster@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:39 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: Mount does not stop


Thanks for the tips. The mount was purchased new and was mounted in
an observatory not use all that often. I picked it up from the
observatory and in a nut shell, it s in new condition.

I will check the mesh, last night this issue never happened and the
pointing was perfect, I moved to about 10 objects and took an image,
it was almost perfectly in the center every time.


--- In ap-gto@..., chris1011@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/8/2007 7:37:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
cluster@... writes:


This is a used but only 4 years old. I will look at the worm mesh
which makes more sense. Again, as long as moving the mount with
TheSky does not cause issues, then I don't care.
Whether being moved by TheSky or by TheKeypad, the motors are
always only
controlled by the servo controller. The problem is not in TheSky or
TheKeypad -
they are simply software word generators - the problem must be
adressed in the
actual electrical portion of the mount. Please understand that
software cannot
move motors directly, it is the capture of the software words by
the servo
and then translating those words into electrical signals sent to
the motors that
results in the mechanical movement.

here are the possibilities:

1: not enough voltage for the motors to do the job being told by
the software
2: very tight worm mesh (can be caused by improper packing when the
mount was
sent via UPS or other carrier which can cause the motor box to jam
into the
worm).
3: faulty receiver/transmitter chip (UART chip) inside the servo
box - this
normally is a total failure, not intermittent and will cause total
failure to
communicate.

If it is inside the servo box (CP2 or CP3), the mount can not be
controlled
from an external source such as the keypad or a computer, but the
motors will
still track at the sidereal rate. If the worm mesh is too tight,
then the
motors will not be able to keep up with the commanded motion, will
fall behind and
will try to catch up even after receiving a stop signal (stop
signal =
direction key not pressed).

If the mount has been purchased second hand, it is a good idea to
go over the
mount mechanically to make sure that all items work. It is quite
common for a
3rd party to pack the mount inadequately and ship it with little or
no
protection on the motor gearboxes. These motor boxes can be forced
into the worm by
blows received during shipping. You can check this easily when you
receive the
mount. Remove the motor gear covers and try turning the large spur
gear by
hand. If it moves freely, the motors can do their job. If it feels
tight, you
will need to reset the worm mesh - a job so simple that even I can
do it!!

Rolando


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Re: Mount does not stop

Joe Zeglinski
 

Yes, Roland, I agree. We should do as much as we possibly can to examine
symptoms, and try to fathom what is going on. However, my suggestion was a
last ditch approach, before giving up and shipping everything back - which is
a hassle for all concerned, and an expense.

However some owners are not as analytical as others, so they may want to
give up and just ask you to just make the problem go away. Your time is
valuable to all of us. Sending "test parts", would be better in that case.

Meanwhile, it might even be useful to purchase a spare power and Y-cable,
just to have it in hand when the cable gets nicked, or the connectors go
funny. At least we would save the long turn around time if the problem turns
out to be one of the cables - they are probably cheaper than mount shipping
charges.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: <chris1011@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: Mount does not stop


In a message dated 8/8/2007 9:47:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
J.Zeglinski@... writes:


I wonder if a "test exchange" system could be implemented. When really
stumped, in a pinch, it would be nice to get a known working controller
and/or
keypad, and cables, on a 7 day debug loan - a credit card buys it, if not
returned in time. That would allow eliminating the servos, and perhaps
narrow
down the problem to one of the 3 other components - controller, keypad, or
cables.
Certainly, we have done that. However, if the customer can do a few simple
tests and adjustments ahead of time it narrows things down quickly and helps
us
to the final soution. Just throwing up hands and saying it doesn't work is
not
helpful to me.

Rolando


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Re: PEMPro questions

Ray Gralak <rgr@...>
 

Joe,

Users with a V1.x license can upgrade for $75. Go to the link below and scroll
down to "Software upgrades":

http://www.ccdware.com/buy/

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]
On Behalf Of jmize@...
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:56 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro questions

Ray did I understand what you're saying? There's currently no
"Upgrade" rout for owners who paid the full commercial price
without buying another complete new $149 program? Ouch!

I liked PemProAP so much I bought the commercial version. I'd
surely like to upgrade my Version 1.70 - Feb 26, 2007 (Build 147),
to Version 2.0 even if I have to pay an "Upgrade" price, I
cannot justify buying another complete program.

I couldn't find anything on the CCDware web page about
Upgrades. Is an Upgrade offer even being discussed?...joe :)

"May You Go Among The Imperishable Stars"

Joe Mize
StarFields Observatory http://www.cav-sfo.com/
<http://www.cav-sfo.com/>
Chiefland, FL 29:24'33.4"N 82:51'37.7"W

------- Original Message -------
From : Ray Gralak[mailto:rgr@... <mailto:rgr%40gralak.com> ]
Sent : 8/9/2007 11:51:45 AM
To : ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc :
Subject : RE: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro questions

Thanks Howard, that is correct!

-Ray

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@...
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> [
mailto:ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ]
On Behalf Of howard4ap
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 8:10 AM
To: ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: PEMPro questions

Hey Joe,

The latest build of the full version without going to v.2.0
is build
147. Build 149 pertains only to the A-P Special Edition.

Howard

--- In ap-gto@... <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
< mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> , "jmize@..." <jmize@...> wrote:

Ray, when I ran Check for Updates my full version PemPro
reported I
have the latest release, ver. 1.70 Build 147, 02-26-2007.
You said below the latest release is Build 149. Is there some
place special where to check for the latest release?
Thkx...joe :)


"May You Go Among The Imperishable Stars"

Joe Mize
StarFields Observatory http://www.cav-sfo.com/
<http://www.cav-sfo.com/>
< http://www.cav-sfo.com/ <http://www.cav-sfo.com/> >
Chiefland, FL 29:24'33.4"N 82:51'37.7"W


------- Original Message -------
From : Ray Gralak[ mailto:rgr@...]
Sent : 8/9/2007 9:42:28 AM
To : ap-gto@...
<mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> < mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Cc :
Subject : RE: [ap-gto] PEMPro questions

Hi Chris,

1) What is the current version of the AP edition of PEMPro?
The current version is V1.7 Build 149. You can use the check for
updates feature
in the Help menu to get the latest version if you do not have it.

2) What does PEMPro v2 do that the special edition doesn't?
The special edition is designed to work specifically with AP GTO
Mounts with the
GTOCP3 controller. You will not be able to use it with
other mounts
including
older AP mounts with GTOCP2 and GTOCP1 controllers. Also
you cannot
use PEMPro's
refine curve feature.

V2 adds new functionality including a Polar Alignment Wizard, a
Backlash
exerciser (PulseGuide already has a tool for this), a Star Finder
utility, and
native support for webcams (so you can use PEMPro without
having to
buy an
expensive 3rd-party CCD program).

3) As an AP owner that got version 1.something with my
mount, am I
eligible to purchase the v2 upgrade? Can I install a dl'ed
version of
v2 or would I need a "special" upgrade also?
For V.1x there was an upgrade path from the AP version to
the full
version, but
I do not think AP and CCDWare (the publisher) have talked
about an
upgrade path
to V2. Of course you can download a 60-day trial of the full
version from the
CCDWare site ( http://www.ccdware.com <http://www.ccdware.com>
< http://www.ccdware.com <http://www.ccdware.com> > ).
Additional questions about
the full
version should be posted to the PEMPro forum:
http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x
<http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x>
< http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x
<http://ccdware.infopop.cc/eve/ubb.x> >

-Ray Gralak
Author of PulseGuide and PEMPro




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