Re: PEMPro with SBIG STV
Kent Kirkley
In a message dated 5/1/07 10:28:31 AM, rgr@gralak.com writes:
Hi Kent,Hi Ray: Yes I know and I'm not trying to 'diss' Pempro, I just haven't, so far, found that I need it. I might try it out and do a comparison. Kent ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Re: PEMPro with SBIG STV
Kent Kirkley
In a message dated 5/1/07 9:18:07 AM, Eddwen@aol.com writes:
Dick,I agree..... I've used an STV with two different AP1200GTO mounts and have never used PemPro, etc. I now use the Remote Guide Head with an SBIG STL-11000 with a 1200GTO and still don't use PemPro. I've used both with the efinder to guide imaging focal lengths up to 1200mm with perfect results. When doing film imaging I often did exposures up to an hour long and now, with CCD, routinely do 30 minute sub exposures with perfectly round stars. Kent Kirkley ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Re: Need bolts from US
Robert Schlingensiepen <schling@...>
Hi Niels,
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Try these guys in Germany. They specialize on stainless and carry US type threads (UNC). http://www.online-schrauben.de/ Hope this helps, Robert
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From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of N. Foldager Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 3:27 PM To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ap-gto] Need bolts from US Hi, I am preparing a special adapter plate to go on the declination head of my 900GTO (on the surface where you use to place a saddle plate.) We use the metric system in Denmark and I have not been able to find the bolts in the US system needed to fasten this adapter. Would someone in US be so kind as to help me purchase some? I will of course pay all costs involved. Or maybe you know where I can order them online for international delivery? (How about Astro-Physics? :-) I'm talking about this type of bolts: http://www.nf. <http://www.nf.suite.dk/bolt.jpg> suite.dk/bolt.jpg In Denmark, we call them "Unbrako bolts". Are they "called socket head bolts" in US? The diameter of the thread should be 6.2 mm = 1/4" and it should go in here (read arrow): http://www.nf. <http://www.nf.suite.dk/declination_head.jpg> suite.dk/declination_head.jpg The length of the thread should be between 1.25" and 1.5" Right now, I need 6 bolts, however, I gladly receive, say, 20 or more. The quality should be the highest of stainless steel (in Danish terms "quality 12.9") I very much appreciate it if someone can help. Best regards, Niels Foldager
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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful
Joe Zeglinski
I know ... but I use the "free verse" interpretation of "conquering". The
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new age California style phrase seems so much like the old one. I thought I had it right - which war and century did that old high school Latin phrase come from? Thanks, Joe
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From: <kgkirkley@aol.com> To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful In a message dated 4/30/07 9:17:46 PM, J.Zeglinski@rogers.com writes: Good quote - I think Julius Caesar was purported to have said in the LatinWhat?? Right person, wrong war, wrong century....... I came, I saw, I conquered :)))) Kent
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Re: AP Difficulties-RESOLUTION!
Bob Holzer <b.holzer@...>
Glad your problem is solved Joe. That's not an issue on mine, so we have different problems. I'm still waiting to hear back from AP.
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Bob
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From: jjbadal2003 To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 3:36 PM Subject: [ap-gto] AP Difficulties-RESOLUTION! After accepting the futility of self-help, I gave AP tech support a call. 'Mechano-sleuths' Christine and Wally predicted binding of a gear in the RA motor 'box'. This was diagnosed by comparing the tension differance in RA to the Dec gear box.In my case great effort was required to move the small gear that engages the plate sized gear in the RA housing. Slight loosening of both SS cap head bolts that attach the black RA gear box to the RA housing did the trick. Wally explained that these problems develop, not from customer abuse to mount (from travel,dropping, etc.), but just plain and simple "Majic". Thanks AP. Joe
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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful
Joe Zeglinski
Hi Bill,
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Good quote - I think Julius Caesar was purported to have said in the Latin writings from the Peloponnesus Wars: - "Veni, Vidi, Vici, Toga Habam" or in direct English translation: - "Been there, Seen it, Done that , got the T-Shirt" ... so we didn't invent that phrase :-) That is yet another interesting tale of how bad UPS service can be, but at least they are regularly (bad). This business with a 3 box or a 5 box shipment of our AP mounts - as in your case and mine - might work better if AP and UPS found some way to handle the entire shipment as ONE UNIT. Maybe the only way is to strap everything to a wooden pallet, but that would likely be more expensive. AP shipping dept. should contact UPS and find some way of UPS keeping a multi box shipment together. Obviously, if they put a separate UPS tag on each separate box, to the UPS driver, and the system, they are just totally different boxes, unrelated to each other. I'm just surprised this kind of shipping hasn't run amuck more often. Oh well, if it takes "a few years" (in the past) to get an AP product from your spot on the Notification List, then what's waiting a few more months for UPS to deliver it. Joe
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From: "Bill Gardner" <gardner.w@rogers.com> To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful Joe,
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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful OT
Kent Kirkley
In a message dated 4/30/07 11:55:46 PM, J.Zeglinski@rogers.com writes:
I thought I had it right - which war and century did that old high schoolGeneral and Consul Julius Caesar, 47BC in address to the Senate after his victory over Pharmaces II at the battle of Zela. The Peloponnesian War began in 431BC between Athens and Sparta, about 400 years before Caesar. Kent ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful
Gilles Grosgurin <gilles@...>
I sold my refractor and so I'm bored... You may want to read this when a
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chance... http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/04/09/ups-vs-fedex-battle-of-the-bran ds/ Gilles
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From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gardner Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:43 PM To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful Joe, Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. Years ago when I took delivery of a mount that was shipped in 3 boxes, box 3 arrived first. I paid all the charges and was told by the driver, that the others were probably just on another truck. That was beginning of my saga and my exerpiences with UPS. It took 2 months for the other boxes to arrive. At several points, UPS tried to claim that boxes 1 and 2 never even existed even though they were logged in their system. They eventually found them sitting in Detroit, waiting for box 3 to arrive, so that they could clear all 3 through customs similaneously (at least that was their explanation). When the other two boxes did finally arrive, it took another week for them to admit that they had been paid, even after producing the cancelled cheque. On another occasion, when damage was done to something, they tried to force me to pay all the taxes, duty and brokerage charges on the value of the repairs. Again, another week (after waiting 3 months for repairs to be done) of dealing with supervisors to make them realize that this charge, should have been part of their initial assessment. There was no way I was going to be out of pocket for their screw up. Bill Joseph Zeglinski wrote: Hi,and thought was finally out of courier hell - well UPS sent me a bill forall the duty, and government taxes, and of course UPS C.O.D. service charges,for that shipment, now well over a month ago.driver at the door. When I phoned, UPS acknowledged that the charge wasreported on one system, and not on another. UPS computers don't talk to eachother. paid the bill, I would be out another $85.gross it tooknegligence. weeks ago,"over a week" for my other 3 day shipment to arrive, a couple of REFUNDINGthe UPS agent told me that UPS has an "unadvertised policy" of returnsshipping charges - but ... ONLY if a customer complains, and ONLY will keepthe refund, to the SENDER. careerit, as a bonus. advancement profile at UPS. -- ______________________________________________ Pictor Observatory http://www.pictorobservatory.ca To UNSUBSCRIBE, or for general information on the ap-gto list see http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ap-gto Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful
Bill Gardner <gardner.w@...>
Joe,
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Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. Years ago when I took delivery of a mount that was shipped in 3 boxes, box 3 arrived first. I paid all the charges and was told by the driver, that the others were probably just on another truck. That was beginning of my saga and my exerpiences with UPS. It took 2 months for the other boxes to arrive. At several points, UPS tried to claim that boxes 1 and 2 never even existed even though they were logged in their system. They eventually found them sitting in Detroit, waiting for box 3 to arrive, so that they could clear all 3 through customs similaneously (at least that was their explanation). When the other two boxes did finally arrive, it took another week for them to admit that they had been paid, even after producing the cancelled cheque. On another occasion, when damage was done to something, they tried to force me to pay all the taxes, duty and brokerage charges on the value of the repairs. Again, another week (after waiting 3 months for repairs to be done) of dealing with supervisors to make them realize that this charge, should have been part of their initial assessment. There was no way I was going to be out of pocket for their screw up. Bill Joseph Zeglinski wrote:
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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful
Kent Kirkley
In a message dated 4/30/07 9:17:46 PM, J.Zeglinski@rogers.com writes:
Good quote - I think Julius Caesar was purported to have said in the LatinWhat?? Right person, wrong war, wrong century....... I came, I saw, I conquered :)))) Kent ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful
Joe Zeglinski
Hi,
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Well the UPS screw up saga continues! That OPT shipment from California to Canada, I described below - and thought was finally out of courier hell - well UPS sent me a bill for all the duty, and government taxes, and of course UPS C.O.D. service charges, for that shipment, now well over a month ago. Luckily, I remembered that I paid all that by credit card, to the driver at the door. When I phoned, UPS acknowledged that the charge was reported on one system, and not on another. UPS computers don't talk to each other. If I had simply assumed UPS was in some small way, competent, and I paid the bill, I would be out another $85. Surely, FEDEX can't be nearly as terrible. Once again ... beware of using UPS, if at all possible. Joe
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From: "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@rogers.com> To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:16 PM Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful Maybe it's time to demand the shipping charges be returned, for UPS gross
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AP Difficulties-RESOLUTION!
jjbadal2003
After accepting the futility of self-help, I gave AP tech support a
call. 'Mechano-sleuths' Christine and Wally predicted binding of a gear in the RA motor 'box'. This was diagnosed by comparing the tension differance in RA to the Dec gear box.In my case great effort was required to move the small gear that engages the plate sized gear in the RA housing. Slight loosening of both SS cap head bolts that attach the black RA gear box to the RA housing did the trick. Wally explained that these problems develop, not from customer abuse to mount (from travel,dropping, etc.), but just plain and simple "Majic". Thanks AP. Joe
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PEMPro with SBIG STV
Dick Locke
Hello all,
I'm testing my 900GTO mount out (pier arriving soon!) and started looking at PEMPro. I have several questions, but the most important is: Will PEMPro work with my SBIG STV autoguider/camera? According the the AP website, PEMPro 1.7 requires CCDSoft V5, Maxim DL V4, or AstroArt V3. Which of these is known to work with the STV and PEMPro 1.7? I'd also be interested in recommendations as I have "none of the above." The main thing I want to accomplish would be to use PEMPro to record and average corrections across many worm cycles, and then program the mount to compensate for the average PE error. I realize I can use the STV to feed corrections to the mount, but without the averaging capabilities. (How much difference does that make?) Thanks! -Dick Locke
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Re: What hemisphere am I in again?
Hi Mike,
1. Your database has probably corrupted. That is why M51 was reported as being below the horizon. The database corrupts when the volatile memory loses power. This can happen when the keypad is bumped too hard or more commonly, when the battery dies. Details are in the tech support section of our website: http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad/keypadbat.htm http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad_update/dataload2 01/dataload201.htm 2. LOC:E means that your keypad is set to "external" meaning that the system thinks it is being operated by an outside computer. There are three ways this can occur. First is a bug in v. 4.07. See the following link: http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad_update/bugs407on .pdf Scroll down to the 4.07 bugs and read through it for instructions. Second, you may have the keypad set incorrectly. From the main menu, go to 2=Setup, then 3=Keypad Options. In keypad options, the "1" key will toggle you through the three auto-connect settings: NO, YES and EXT. If you are permanently set up, it should be on YES. If you set up anew for each observing session, it should be on NO. It should only be on EXT if you are controlling the mount from an external computer using a program like PulseGuide, The Sky, or Starry Night. The third way that your keypad can be set to EXT is if you use the "Get Time/Loc FrMnt" command: 2=setup; 1=Site Location Data; 3=Get Time/Loc FrMnt. DO NOT use this command unless you are externally connected to a computer and wish to synchronize the time and location data between the computer and keypad. It will automatically change the keypad to EXT mode since it assumes that a computer is operating the mount. To check the mount's time, always use the 4=Time/LST command from the main menu. This will also tell you your location setting. To check your location parameters, go through setup as if you were adding or changing location data. Exit by pressing menu if you are making no changes. Exit by pressing GOTO if you make any changes. Finally, consider upgrading from 4.07 to 4.12. Jot down your keypad and/or mount serial number(s) and contact Astro-Physics if you don't have the password. http://www.astro-physics.com/tech_support/mounts/keypad_update/keypadver sions.htm Mag. 7 skies! Howard Hedlund Astro-Physics, Inc. 815-282-1513 ________________________________ From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Chapa Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 12:37 AM To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ap-gto] What hemisphere am I in again? Howdy, I haven't been doing much in the hobby the last year, but tried to enjoy some views of the moon through my TEC160FL tonight. After polar aligning, I looked at the moon for a while and then wondered what some objects in Ursa Major might look like with a bright moon. However, when I asked it to go to M51, etc., it said they were below the horizon. I checked the date and time and location and they all seemed fine. One of the pages said I couldn't change anything there because I was in LOC:E--what does that mean? I confess not to being an expert on the AP900GTO--I've always found the handpaddle a bit non-intuitive and I'm often too lazy to read the manual. But, I don't think it has ever done this before and it always tracks like a dream. I'm running 4.07 I think. Can anyone offer some advice how to fix this problem? I realigned 3 times and turned the power off/on several times with realigning and nothing changed. I tried polar align feature and 2 star align--same result. Of note, the mount always returned spot-on to the alignment stars, it just wouldn't slew to M# objects, etc. Thank you. Mike Chapa www.chapaccd.com
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Re: New Mach1GTO question
observe_m13
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How far away is the horizon? Just an approximation. Marj mentioned that it was "real soon now" in mid January. I loaded up the Beta at that point and have had no problems. I know that there are supposed to be a new routine or two added but when will it Beta stage again? Rick.
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Re: New Mach1GTO question
Hi Robert,
Set your keypad to either 900 or 1200. The servo system is the same for all three mounts, the 900GTO, 1200GTO and Mach1GTO. The next firmware version will include a setting for the Mach1GTO to keep people from worrying, but its parameters will be the same as those of the bigger mounts. Since a new firmware version is on the horizon, we didn't want to create a new iteration of 4.12 just to add the Mach1 to the choice list. Mag. 7 skies! Howard Hedlund Astro-Physics, Inc. 815-282-1513 ________________________________ From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dogonenuts1 Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:15 AM To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ap-gto] New Mach1GTO question I just received my new Mach1GTO(after a 6 year wait) three days ago and because of work, soccer and Little League games am just now starting to get it set up. I'll first have to say that the workmanship is really incredible. It is truely like a cross between a handcrafted Swiss watch and an Abrams M1 tank. It is solid yet exquisite. Cudos to you Roland. Anyway, my first question is: under the setup menu, then the park/mount opiton submenu, should there be an option for the Mach1 mount? I only see the old 400,600,900,1200 options. What should I key in? Does it even matter? Thanks, Robert Ham
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Re: AP900 difficulties
Bob Holzer <b.holzer@...>
Hi Rick:
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I have everything moved forward as much as possible. I have my Casady saddle offset mounted to the front. The FSQ is all the way forward in the rings and the dovetail is all the way forward, probably sitting in less than half of the rear clamp. Also, my guide scope is as forward as can be. I have my dew controller mounted on the front of the scope too, but it's very light. I'm still a couple pounds tail heavy, but within ok limits I think. Bob .
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From: Rick K To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:06 AM Subject: [ap-gto] Re: AP900 difficulties Hi Bob, Just wondering how you manage to balance the FSQ with that massive Proline hanging off the back of it? Are you running counterweights on your mounting plates on the objective side? I am still waiting on adapters but I am having some good head scratching sessions with my 155EDF and additional weight to simulate the Proline plus filter wheel. I cannot slide the OTA forward anywhere close to a balance point due to the additional weight of the field flattener plus the camera and filter wheel. I am going to have to add weight to the objective end. I hope to be able to use it with my Traveler as well but that could be really interesting. Anyway, how are you managing this with the FSQ? Rick. --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...> wrote: > > Hi Joe: > > I have exactly the same problem on my AP900, same vintage, same light well balanced load of FSQ/miniborg/FLI Proline. I diagnosed it over the phone with AP, by swapping cables etc, to be a bad motor and sent it back for repair. They looked at it, found nothing wrong except a slight burnt electrical smell from the motor, didn't replace the motor because they are "expensive", charged me a bunch a money and returned it to me. I still have the same problem and haven't heard from them in a week. Please let me know if you hear from them with a solution. > > Bob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: jjbadal2003 > To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:57 PM > Subject: [ap-gto] AP900 difficulties > > > Haven't used the AP900 in a while. In spite of moon, (naturally) very > clear night. Traveler with STV/miniborg/STL11000. AP900 most recent > vintage. I believe very well balanced. Since I have an AP1200 also, I > traded out most of the cables, in attempt to isolate problem. AP900 > Works fine for first 2-3 minutes, then red light on mount turns yellow > and stops. Also slews in DEC just fine,also in RA W-E OK, but E-W > makes a straining noise. Any thoughts appreciated. Joe > > > > > > >
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Re: AP900 difficulties
jjbadal2003
To Joe Z.- I used 2 differant power supplies, including the
new 'large'AP supply. Total weight of Traveler/ camera/stuff- about 35 lbs.- so not past mount capacity.Balance is accomplished by having scope far forward by bolting a 7 inch AP bar to the front end of a Losmandy DUP, then rings attach to the 7 inch bar. I will switch out to the AP1200 for tonight. Will try and further investigate over next few days as time allows. Greetings Bob H.. Sorry about your mount troubles. Joe B.
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Re: AP900 difficulties
observe_m13
Hi Bob,
Just wondering how you manage to balance the FSQ with that massive Proline hanging off the back of it? Are you running counterweights on your mounting plates on the objective side? I am still waiting on adapters but I am having some good head scratching sessions with my 155EDF and additional weight to simulate the Proline plus filter wheel. I cannot slide the OTA forward anywhere close to a balance point due to the additional weight of the field flattener plus the camera and filter wheel. I am going to have to add weight to the objective end. I hope to be able to use it with my Traveler as well but that could be really interesting. Anyway, how are you managing this with the FSQ? Rick. --- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...> wrote: light well balanced load of FSQ/miniborg/FLI Proline. I diagnosed it over the phone with AP, by swapping cables etc, to be a bad motor and sent it back for repair. They looked at it, found nothing wrong except a slight burnt electrical smell from the motor, didn't replace the motor because they are "expensive", charged me a bunch a money and returned it to me. I still have the same problem and haven't heard from them in a week. Please let me know if you hear from them with a solution. yellow and stops. Also slews in DEC just fine,also in RA W-E OK, but E-W
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Re: Need bolts from US
N. Foldager
Thank you so much to Eric, Konstantin, and Stuart!
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Best regards, Niels
If you can't find these screws from a local or EU supplier, you can order
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