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Photos of dueling AP900GTOs

Robin Kerr
 

Dear Group,

I have updated my images on my Observatory web page. Scroll down to
the bottom and you can see my dual AP900s.

http://www.stardoctor.org/lake.html

Latest images accessible from my home page

http://www.stardoctor.org/index.html

Ruben


Safely installing a heavy OTA onto an AP900

Joe Zeglinski
 

Hi,

I recently received my AP900 and had a look at the DOVEM2 dovetail plate
for my existing Losmandy DSUB adapter on a 25 lb. Questar-7 OTA.

The AP dovetail doesn't quite mate the same way. The Losmandy has two
closely fitted V-grooves, into which the OTA's DSUB just slides down, and is
locked in place with one knob. The AP900 DOVEM2 has only one V-groove, and a
much wider, by about 3/16" channel, with a straight, non-grooved wall on the
other side - the two lock knobs act as both the other "channel" and the locks,
for the DSUB plate.

My "queasiness" is handling the heavy MAK OTA to get it locked safely into
the groove. I guess I would have felt safer if the plate was initially mated
"in both notched channels" as on the Losmandy mount. However, the DOVEM2 is
very well designed for a variety of OTA plates, and even balance point
offsets.

So, how do you owners of C9 and similar OTA's used with Losmandy mounts,
do the attachment now on your AP mounts?

Assuming, of course, the mount is positioned and locked in the CWD (counter
weights down) position:

1.. Do you preset the DOVEM2 knobs so they are very close to the width of
the DSUB, and similarly slide the OTA down the channel vertically (as on a
G11, for example), before lock in? Or ...

2.. Do you set the DOVEM2 knobs wide open, and "clip in" the OTA with DSUB
sideways, then tighten the knobs?

Which approach is safer, while precariously standing on snow?

The latter approach seems a bit more hazardous than doing the longitudinal
vertical OTA slide. It's just that using the two DOVEM2 bolt tips as a
substitute V-groove slide, seems prone to jamming the DSUB plate on the way
down.

It sure would be nice if at least, some of the AP documentation showed
"hefty OTA's" actually being installed, on portable mounts, instead of the
lighter refractors, or the large OTA's already pictured in observatories.
But I suppose those are AP refractors. Perhaps AP could show some shots of how
to "handle" their AP MAK in this situation - that would be instructive for us
who already have an investment in good SCT's and MAK's, and just want to
safely use our AP mounts, while perhaps avoiding wrenching our backs in the
exercise.

Opinions please.
Joe


Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe Zeglinski
 

Maybe it's time to demand the shipping charges be returned, for UPS gross
negligence.

Actually, now that I think of it, when I complained to them that it took
"over a week" for my other 3 day shipment to arrive, a couple of weeks ago,
the UPS agent told me that UPS has an "unadvertised policy" of REFUNDING
shipping charges - but ... ONLY if a customer complains, and ONLY returns the
refund, to the SENDER.
Then you have to hassle them to get your money back, or the sender will keep
it, as a bonus.

It's not much, but maybe it at least it gets logged in somebody's career
advancement profile at UPS.

Maybe UPS needs to hire Tom Hanks away from FEDEX :-)
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 3:56 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Well, the idiots at UPS tried to deliver to my home again after
reconfirming twice that it was supposed to be redirected to my office.

The ironic part is my office is across the street, literally, from UPS
World HQ and I can't do anything about it :(

Bob



--- In ap-gto@..., "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...> wrote:


Well, we'll see what happens. Although I changed the address for
delivery to my office, they tried again yesterday to deliver it to my
home where no one was home again. Now, the online tracking has stopped
as of last night, so I have no idea where the mount is and if it will
make it to the office today.

Bob :-(


--- In ap-gto@..., "roy" <roystarman@> wrote:

You noticed that Marj said she tracked it. USPS doe not as of a few
years
ago (2004) always scan a package with that extra service they offer.
I sent
a letter and a check to a mortgage company that way and of course
it got
lost. When I tried to track it via the system it shows leaving my
local area
and arriving at an interim place but nothing else. Where the USPS
does excel
in is attempting to make delivery. Once they found the letter a
few days
later it was delivered as the mortgage company notified me but the
scan
still showed it in transit. Frankly I normally use air freight
either UPS or
Fed EX, my belief being the reduction of bumpy truck rides, One
bumpy ride
to the airport onto a relatively smooth airplane and then another 2
bumpy
truck rides at the destination. This beats the all the bumpy truck
rides
from anywhere. BTW if you watch your routing you wonder how stuff
gets where
it is going as efficiently as it does.



_____

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of
Marj
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I
am not
sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your work
address
was requested. I tracked your package and found that you have already
initiated a request to change the address (which I had planned to
do). Since
you work and live in the same city, you will probably get it
tomorrow. I
hope that it will be in time for your star party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf
Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right
address.
They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where no one
is home
to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I guess I'll miss
our star
party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one
central
company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post
office of the
other country. It takes a long time to track something down. We had a
situation years ago where both post offices blamed the other. After
about 6
months, the package was returned to us. Fortunately, it was an small
accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf Of
Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the
USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a
$10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a
lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet.
<mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ...
over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs
myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the
slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"Dave
McDonald" <dmcdona@> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
Jerry
Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which
I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering
my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great
rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Bob Holzer <b.holzer@...>
 

Well, the idiots at UPS tried to deliver to my home again after
reconfirming twice that it was supposed to be redirected to my office.

The ironic part is my office is across the street, literally, from UPS
World HQ and I can't do anything about it :(

Bob



--- In ap-gto@..., "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...> wrote:


Well, we'll see what happens. Although I changed the address for
delivery to my office, they tried again yesterday to deliver it to my
home where no one was home again. Now, the online tracking has stopped
as of last night, so I have no idea where the mount is and if it will
make it to the office today.

Bob :-(


--- In ap-gto@..., "roy" <roystarman@> wrote:

You noticed that Marj said she tracked it. USPS doe not as of a few
years
ago (2004) always scan a package with that extra service they offer.
I sent
a letter and a check to a mortgage company that way and of course
it got
lost. When I tried to track it via the system it shows leaving my
local area
and arriving at an interim place but nothing else. Where the USPS
does excel
in is attempting to make delivery. Once they found the letter a
few days
later it was delivered as the mortgage company notified me but the
scan
still showed it in transit. Frankly I normally use air freight
either UPS or
Fed EX, my belief being the reduction of bumpy truck rides, One
bumpy ride
to the airport onto a relatively smooth airplane and then another 2
bumpy
truck rides at the destination. This beats the all the bumpy truck
rides
from anywhere. BTW if you watch your routing you wonder how stuff
gets where
it is going as efficiently as it does.



_____

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of
Marj
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I
am not
sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your work
address
was requested. I tracked your package and found that you have already
initiated a request to change the address (which I had planned to
do). Since
you work and live in the same city, you will probably get it
tomorrow. I
hope that it will be in time for your star party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf
Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right
address.
They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where no one
is home
to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I guess I'll miss
our star
party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one
central
company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post
office of the
other country. It takes a long time to track something down. We had a
situation years ago where both post offices blamed the other. After
about 6
months, the package was returned to us. Fortunately, it was an small
accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf Of
Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the
USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a
$10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a
lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet.
<mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ...
over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs
myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the
slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"Dave
McDonald" <dmcdona@> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
Jerry
Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which
I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering
my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great
rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: Photos of dueling AP900GTOs

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 4/13/2007 5:38:54 PM Central Daylight Time,
stardoctor5@... writes:


Dear Group,

I have updated my images on my Observatory web page. Scroll down to
the bottom and you can see my dual AP900s.

http://www.stardoctor.org/lake.html

Latest images accessible from my home page

http://www.stardoctor.org/index.html

Ruben
Impressive observatory you have there. And very nice imaging results.

Rolando


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Pocket PC Control:

rsampsonus
 

Hey Folks,


I am toying with the idea of controlling my AP1200GTO with a
Pocket PC and a USB to Serial Adapter. I am planning on using The Sky
and T-point with Mobile 5.1 operating system. Has anyone ventured in
this arena before that could give me some pointers to circumvent alot
of the learning curve. Maybe there are some caveats I am not aware of?
I figured this might be a good way for me to go visually because I will
have the Planetarium software to do a what is up in the sky tonight???
Any thoughts from anyone???


Clear Skies and BEst Regards, Ron S


Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe Zeglinski
 

Sorry, Anthony, my mistake.

My rage got the better of my eyesight. I missed the extra "S". I would
guess that is why they called their company UPS, so people would confuse them
with the postal service - though I don't why that used to be a good thing. :-)

Seems like the government agency "USPS" is trying harder to get back their
old business from the couriers. Maybe it's not such a "snail mail" service any
more.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" <ayiomami@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


Joe,

Are we talking about the same thing? I am referring to USPS and not UPS?

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@..., "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...> wrote:

Yes, they have a wonderful tracking service. Makes my PC very happy.

I watched the UPS system track my AP900 order across the USA,
through the
Canadian border, Customs Clearance, and to the local UPS dispatch
terminal -
right up to the end point where it read "Delivered - Destination:
Front
Door".

Sorry, but my "front door" doesn't have signing authority for
the $10,000
shipment that UPS left on my front porch.

I was also informed this morning, by the "UPS International"
rep in the
USA (thanks to Christine at AP), that the UPS - USA, "receiver's
signature
option" ends at the border:
UPS Canada (and every other country) does NOT extend that
requirement, after
it clears Customs, to it's Canadian UPS driver, when he delivers
the shipment
at the final destination!

How incompetent.
A different UPS policy between operations in neighbouring countries,
on the
same extremely expensive shipment.

Actually, I was further informed, that if the SENDER asks for a
"signature
on delivery", it is only done for deliveries to a Commercial
destination - not
if you state it is a "Residence".
Ergo, tell UPS it is a "home business" (commercial destination), I
suppose, so
that UPS gets it's act in line. That may be another way of avoiding UPS
abandoning your AP900 on a porch - possibly not even your own. Of
course, that
would likely confuse the hapless UPS driver - but then you can
retrieve your
package at a local UPS store or depot, safe and sound - where I hope
they at
least ask for a signature and I.D.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" <ayiomami@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


Roy,

I am a heavy user of the services offered by USPS and have always
enjoyed timely and accurate tracking over the internet when it comes
to "EMS" and "Two-Day Global Express Guaranteed". Ditto for packages
sent air mail insured.

In fact, you can sign up and have each update to your parcel's status
sent to you by email as well ... which I really like!

Anthony.



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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

ayiomamitis
 

Joe,

Are we talking about the same thing? I am referring to USPS and not UPS?

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@..., "Joseph Zeglinski" <J.Zeglinski@...> wrote:

Yes, they have a wonderful tracking service. Makes my PC very happy.

I watched the UPS system track my AP900 order across the USA,
through the
Canadian border, Customs Clearance, and to the local UPS dispatch
terminal -
right up to the end point where it read "Delivered - Destination:
Front
Door".

Sorry, but my "front door" doesn't have signing authority for
the $10,000
shipment that UPS left on my front porch.

I was also informed this morning, by the "UPS International"
rep in the
USA (thanks to Christine at AP), that the UPS - USA, "receiver's
signature
option" ends at the border:
UPS Canada (and every other country) does NOT extend that
requirement, after
it clears Customs, to it's Canadian UPS driver, when he delivers
the shipment
at the final destination!

How incompetent.
A different UPS policy between operations in neighbouring countries,
on the
same extremely expensive shipment.

Actually, I was further informed, that if the SENDER asks for a
"signature
on delivery", it is only done for deliveries to a Commercial
destination - not
if you state it is a "Residence".
Ergo, tell UPS it is a "home business" (commercial destination), I
suppose, so
that UPS gets it's act in line. That may be another way of avoiding UPS
abandoning your AP900 on a porch - possibly not even your own. Of
course, that
would likely confuse the hapless UPS driver - but then you can
retrieve your
package at a local UPS store or depot, safe and sound - where I hope
they at
least ask for a signature and I.D.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" <ayiomami@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


Roy,

I am a heavy user of the services offered by USPS and have always
enjoyed timely and accurate tracking over the internet when it comes
to "EMS" and "Two-Day Global Express Guaranteed". Ditto for packages
sent air mail insured.

In fact, you can sign up and have each update to your parcel's status
sent to you by email as well ... which I really like!

Anthony.


Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Bob Holzer <b.holzer@...>
 

Well, we'll see what happens. Although I changed the address for
delivery to my office, they tried again yesterday to deliver it to my
home where no one was home again. Now, the online tracking has stopped
as of last night, so I have no idea where the mount is and if it will
make it to the office today.

Bob :-(


--- In ap-gto@..., "roy" <roystarman@...> wrote:

You noticed that Marj said she tracked it. USPS doe not as of a few
years
ago (2004) always scan a package with that extra service they offer.
I sent
a letter and a check to a mortgage company that way and of course it got
lost. When I tried to track it via the system it shows leaving my
local area
and arriving at an interim place but nothing else. Where the USPS
does excel
in is attempting to make delivery. Once they found the letter a few days
later it was delivered as the mortgage company notified me but the scan
still showed it in transit. Frankly I normally use air freight
either UPS or
Fed EX, my belief being the reduction of bumpy truck rides, One
bumpy ride
to the airport onto a relatively smooth airplane and then another 2
bumpy
truck rides at the destination. This beats the all the bumpy truck rides
from anywhere. BTW if you watch your routing you wonder how stuff
gets where
it is going as efficiently as it does.



_____

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of
Marj
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I
am not
sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your work
address
was requested. I tracked your package and found that you have already
initiated a request to change the address (which I had planned to
do). Since
you work and live in the same city, you will probably get it tomorrow. I
hope that it will be in time for your star party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf
Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right
address.
They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where no one
is home
to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I guess I'll miss
our star
party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one
central
company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post
office of the
other country. It takes a long time to track something down. We had a
situation years ago where both post offices blamed the other. After
about 6
months, the package was returned to us. Fortunately, it was an small
accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf Of
Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the
USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a
$10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a
lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet. <mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ... over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"Dave
McDonald" <dmcdona@> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
Jerry
Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great
rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Bob Holzer <b.holzer@...>
 

Hi Dean:

Sorry I missed you & WSP this year.

If TNR would have told me who had my mount, I may have made that trip
<g>. One thing to note though, that while TNR did do some really
stupid things like this, they were incredibly stand-up replacing a bad
FSQ-106 and EM-200 for me.

Bob



--- In ap-gto@..., "Dean S" <dean@...> wrote:

Wow, that sounded like a road trip with some big friends was in
called for?


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



I was way past grumpy <g>.

Bob



--- In ap-gto@..., "Marj" <marj@> wrote:

Bob,

That must have been very frustrating since you could only rely on
his sense of fairness to have him send it to you.


Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]On
Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Marj, I will add that this is still a whole lot better than Tak
returning my mount to the wrong person who refused to return it to me
for 2 months because mine worked better than his.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Holzer
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

I apologize for being so grumpy about it Marj. It won't be delivered
until 5PM Friday and tomorrow is looking like the only good weather
day. So I've missed another whole month of imaging.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I
am not sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your
work address was requested. I tracked your package and found that you
have already initiated a request to change the address (which I had
planned to do). Since you work and live in the same city, you will
probably get it tomorrow. I hope that it will be in time for your star
party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right
address. They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where
no one is home to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I
guess I'll miss our star party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one
central company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post
office of the other country. It takes a long time to track something
down. We had a situation years ago where both post offices blamed the
other. After about 6 months, the package was returned to us.
Fortunately, it was an small accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf Of Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the
USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a
$10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a
lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet.
<mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to
SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using
USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ...
over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs
myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the
slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They
have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"Dave McDonald" <dmcdona@> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
Jerry Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought
they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX,
which I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX
delivering my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great
rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe Zeglinski
 

Yes, they have a wonderful tracking service. Makes my PC very happy.

I watched the UPS system track my AP900 order across the USA, through the
Canadian border, Customs Clearance, and to the local UPS dispatch terminal -
right up to the end point where it read "Delivered - Destination: Front
Door".

Sorry, but my "front door" doesn't have signing authority for the $10,000
shipment that UPS left on my front porch.

I was also informed this morning, by the "UPS International" rep in the
USA (thanks to Christine at AP), that the UPS - USA, "receiver's signature
option" ends at the border:
UPS Canada (and every other country) does NOT extend that requirement, after
it clears Customs, to it's Canadian UPS driver, when he delivers the shipment
at the final destination!

How incompetent.
A different UPS policy between operations in neighbouring countries, on the
same extremely expensive shipment.

Actually, I was further informed, that if the SENDER asks for a "signature
on delivery", it is only done for deliveries to a Commercial destination - not
if you state it is a "Residence".
Ergo, tell UPS it is a "home business" (commercial destination), I suppose, so
that UPS gets it's act in line. That may be another way of avoiding UPS
abandoning your AP900 on a porch - possibly not even your own. Of course, that
would likely confuse the hapless UPS driver - but then you can retrieve your
package at a local UPS store or depot, safe and sound - where I hope they at
least ask for a signature and I.D.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" <ayiomami@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 9:43 AM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


Roy,

I am a heavy user of the services offered by USPS and have always
enjoyed timely and accurate tracking over the internet when it comes
to "EMS" and "Two-Day Global Express Guaranteed". Ditto for packages
sent air mail insured.

In fact, you can sign up and have each update to your parcel's status
sent to you by email as well ... which I really like!

Anthony.


Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

ayiomamitis
 

Roy,

I am a heavy user of the services offered by USPS and have always
enjoyed timely and accurate tracking over the internet when it comes
to "EMS" and "Two-Day Global Express Guaranteed". Ditto for packages
sent air mail insured.

In fact, you can sign up and have each update to your parcel's status
sent to you by email as well ... which I really like!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@..., "roy" <roystarman@...> wrote:

You noticed that Marj said she tracked it. USPS doe not as of a few
years
ago (2004) always scan a package with that extra service they offer.
I sent
a letter and a check to a mortgage company that way and of course it got
lost. When I tried to track it via the system it shows leaving my
local area
and arriving at an interim place but nothing else. Where the USPS
does excel
in is attempting to make delivery. Once they found the letter a few days
later it was delivered as the mortgage company notified me but the scan
still showed it in transit. Frankly I normally use air freight
either UPS or
Fed EX, my belief being the reduction of bumpy truck rides, One
bumpy ride
to the airport onto a relatively smooth airplane and then another 2
bumpy
truck rides at the destination. This beats the all the bumpy truck rides
from anywhere. BTW if you watch your routing you wonder how stuff
gets where
it is going as efficiently as it does.



_____

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On
Behalf Of
Marj
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I
am not
sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your work
address
was requested. I tracked your package and found that you have already
initiated a request to change the address (which I had planned to
do). Since
you work and live in the same city, you will probably get it tomorrow. I
hope that it will be in time for your star party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf
Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right
address.
They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where no one
is home
to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I guess I'll miss
our star
party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one
central
company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post
office of the
other country. It takes a long time to track something down. We had a
situation years ago where both post offices blamed the other. After
about 6
months, the package was returned to us. Fortunately, it was an small
accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf Of
Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the
USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a
$10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a
lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet. <mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ... over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"Dave
McDonald" <dmcdona@> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
Jerry
Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great
rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

roy <roystarman@...>
 

You noticed that Marj said she tracked it. USPS doe not as of a few years
ago (2004) always scan a package with that extra service they offer. I sent
a letter and a check to a mortgage company that way and of course it got
lost. When I tried to track it via the system it shows leaving my local area
and arriving at an interim place but nothing else. Where the USPS does excel
in is attempting to make delivery. Once they found the letter a few days
later it was delivered as the mortgage company notified me but the scan
still showed it in transit. Frankly I normally use air freight either UPS or
Fed EX, my belief being the reduction of bumpy truck rides, One bumpy ride
to the airport onto a relatively smooth airplane and then another 2 bumpy
truck rides at the destination. This beats the all the bumpy truck rides
from anywhere. BTW if you watch your routing you wonder how stuff gets where
it is going as efficiently as it does.



_____

From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...] On Behalf Of
Marj
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I am not
sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your work address
was requested. I tracked your package and found that you have already
initiated a request to change the address (which I had planned to do). Since
you work and live in the same city, you will probably get it tomorrow. I
hope that it will be in time for your star party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf
Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right address.
They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where no one is home
to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I guess I'll miss our star
party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one central
company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post office of the
other country. It takes a long time to track something down. We had a
situation years ago where both post offices blamed the other. After about 6
months, the package was returned to us. Fortunately, it was an small
accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf Of
Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a $10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet. <mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ... over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Dave
McDonald" <dmcdona@...> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto:
ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com, Jerry
Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: Mrk 205 in Draco ... who is right?

Dr. David Toth
 

At 11:17 AM 4/12/2007, Anthony Ayiomamitis wrote:
Dear Friends,

One of the most celebrated quasars is Markarian 205, a fairly bright
quasar in Draco (mag 15.24), which has led to an interesting controversy
the past few years as to whether it is related to NGC 4319 in the
immediate vicinity or not. The dramatic difference between the redshifts
of these two "players" (z=0.07 vs z=0.006) has led to conflicting
interpretations of the redshift and whether it can be used as an
indicator of distance or not.

For an image based on 30 minutes total exposure, I kindly direct you to
http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-QSO-Mrk205.htm .

Clear skies!

Anthony.
This very topic was discussed in the April Sky and Telescope in Rick Fienberg's Spectrum article ...
A Hubble image shows there is NO light bridge between the two, thus weakening/killing Arp's contention that they are related despite the disparate red-shifts.

Dave


Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dean S
 

Wow, that sounded like a road trip with some big friends was in called for?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Holzer" <b.holzer@...>
To: <ap-gto@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



I was way past grumpy <g>.

Bob



--- In ap-gto@..., "Marj" <marj@...> wrote:

Bob,

That must have been very frustrating since you could only rely on
his sense of fairness to have him send it to you.


Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]On
Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Marj, I will add that this is still a whole lot better than Tak
returning my mount to the wrong person who refused to return it to me
for 2 months because mine worked better than his.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Holzer
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

I apologize for being so grumpy about it Marj. It won't be delivered
until 5PM Friday and tomorrow is looking like the only good weather
day. So I've missed another whole month of imaging.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I
am not sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your
work address was requested. I tracked your package and found that you
have already initiated a request to change the address (which I had
planned to do). Since you work and live in the same city, you will
probably get it tomorrow. I hope that it will be in time for your star
party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right
address. They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where
no one is home to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I
guess I'll miss our star party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one
central company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post
office of the other country. It takes a long time to track something
down. We had a situation years ago where both post offices blamed the
other. After about 6 months, the package was returned to us.
Fortunately, it was an small accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf Of Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the
USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a
$10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a
lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet. <mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ... over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"Dave McDonald" <dmcdona@> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
Jerry Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great
rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Bob Holzer <b.holzer@...>
 

I was way past grumpy <g>.

Bob



--- In ap-gto@..., "Marj" <marj@...> wrote:

Bob,

That must have been very frustrating since you could only rely on
his sense of fairness to have him send it to you.


Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]On
Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:21 PM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful



Marj, I will add that this is still a whole lot better than Tak
returning my mount to the wrong person who refused to return it to me
for 2 months because mine worked better than his.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Holzer
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

I apologize for being so grumpy about it Marj. It won't be delivered
until 5PM Friday and tomorrow is looking like the only good weather
day. So I've missed another whole month of imaging.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I
am not sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your
work address was requested. I tracked your package and found that you
have already initiated a request to change the address (which I had
planned to do). Since you work and live in the same city, you will
probably get it tomorrow. I hope that it will be in time for your star
party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right
address. They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where
no one is home to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I
guess I'll miss our star party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one
central company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post
office of the other country. It takes a long time to track something
down. We had a situation years ago where both post offices blamed the
other. After about 6 months, the package was returned to us.
Fortunately, it was an small accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On
Behalf Of Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the
USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a
$10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a
lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet. <mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ... over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
"Dave McDonald" <dmcdona@> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
[mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com,
Jerry Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great
rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Re: maintenance of ap 900 gto cp3

lupodima <lupo.di.mare@...>
 

--- In ap-gto@..., chris1011@... wrote:

In a message dated 4/8/2007 12:37:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
lupo.di.mare@... writes:


in order of maintenance of my AP 900 gto cp3 how i can lubricate also
the worm gear and the cogwheel of the AR -DEC axles whitout disasemble
totally the mount ?
Just remove the motor gearbox and you will see the worm teeth exposed.

Rolando


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hello Rolando
Sorry for the delayed reply but now here in Ischia island is started
the holiday season and a lot of work come ...
For expose the worm teeth i have to completely remove the 2 iron
screw under the motorbox right?
After put some grease on the worm teeth (I found the Lubriplate 105 in
Milan city and they will send it to me just asap they get from USA ) ,
just push on the gearbox for make the coupling and screw all without
any concerns? I need to remove the old grease or just add small
quantity ?
Thanks
best regards
Giorgio


Re: maintenance of ap 900 gto cp3

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 4/12/2007 1:55:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
lupo.di.mare@... writes:


For expose the worm teeth i have to completely remove the 2 iron
screw under the motorbox right?
Yes. Do not remove the screws that hold the bracket to the mount, just those
srews that hold the motor box onto the bracket.

After put some grease on the worm teeth (I found the Lubriplate 105 in
Milan city and they will send it to me just asap they get from USA ) ,
just push on the gearbox for make the coupling and screw all without
any concerns? I need to remove the old grease or just add small
quantity ?
Just push the gearbox gently back into mesh and tighten the screws. No need
to remove the old grease.

Rolando


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Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

 

Bob,

That must have been very frustrating since you could only rely on his sense of fairness to have him send it to you.


Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
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From: ap-gto@... [mailto:ap-gto@...]On Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:21 PM
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Marj, I will add that this is still a whole lot better than Tak returning my mount to the wrong person who refused to return it to me for 2 months because mine worked better than his.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Holzer
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

I apologize for being so grumpy about it Marj. It won't be delivered until 5PM Friday and tomorrow is looking like the only good weather day. So I've missed another whole month of imaging.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:41 PM
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Dear Bob,

Yes, it looks like we made a mistake with your shipping address. I am not sure how it happened since our paperwork clearly states your work address was requested. I tracked your package and found that you have already initiated a request to change the address (which I had planned to do). Since you work and live in the same city, you will probably get it tomorrow. I hope that it will be in time for your star party.

I deeply apologize for your inconvenience.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
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From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf Of Bob Holzer
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

You also have to be careful that Astro-Physics sends to the right address. They just screwed me royally by sending it to my house, where no one is home to sign for it, instead of my office as directed. I guess I'll miss our star party this weekend now. Thanks AP.

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: Marj
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:46 PM
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Joe (and Anthony),
The down side of USPS is that if a package is lost, there is no one central company to deal with. There is the US post office and the post office of the other country. It takes a long time to track something down. We had a situation years ago where both post offices blamed the other. After about 6 months, the package was returned to us. Fortunately, it was an small accessory.

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
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-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com]On Behalf Of Joseph Zeglinski
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:33 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Does anybody know of any "insurance limits" or problems, with the USPS or
the couriers? I would hate to go into litigation for years over a $10,000
mount, as they try to figure out whose fault it was. That could be a lot of
lost observing time.

Please comment.

Thanks,
Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "ayiomamitis" < ayiomami@otenet. <mailto:ayiomami%40otenet.gr> gr>
To: < ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:08 PM
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful

Dave,

I remember about two years ago when I sent my ST-2k back to SBIG for
service and they ignored my pleads for them to return it using USPS.
They used UPS and of course I got burned with their fees ... over $100
for a 2.5 kg package and I cleared the item through customs myself or,
otherwise, it would have been nearly double that.

I also have other bad experiences with UPS. I must confess that
whenever FedEx was involved, everything was fine without the slightest
problem.

Anyway, I use USPS at each and every possible opportunity. They have
fully earned my loyalty and business!

Anthony.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Dave McDonald" <dmcdona@...> wrote:

Anthony - there's a difference between UPS and USPS.

Personally, and I'm clearly fortunate, of all shipment to me from
across the
pond, I've never had an ounce of trouble from any of the main
couriers (UPS
and FedEx) or postal services (USPS or An Post - Ireland). Lots of
heartbreak when they give me the Import and Sales tax bill of
course, but
safely delivered goods in one piece.

FWIW

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com [mailto: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
Behalf Of
ayiomamitis
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 9:26 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [ap-gto] Re: UPS delivery - be VERY careful


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups. <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> com, Jerry Lodriguss <lists5@> wrote:

At 02:54 PM 4/10/2007, you wrote:
Before I retired, I used to have a personal business policy of
NEVER using
UPS because of their problematic performance, but I thought they
had now
improved over the years. Well, it's now back to FEDEX, which I had
always used
previously, and rarely (if ever) had any problems.

Well, I just had a nightmare experience with FEDEX delivering my AP
600E mount, so don't trust them either.
Personally, I am a great fan of USPS ... great service, great rates and
never a problem!

Anthony.


Jerry



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Mrk 205 in Draco ... who is right?

ayiomamitis
 

Dear Friends,

One of the most celebrated quasars is Markarian 205, a fairly bright quasar in Draco (mag 15.24), which has led to an interesting controversy the past few years as to whether it is related to NGC 4319 in the immediate vicinity or not. The dramatic difference between the redshifts of these two "players" (z=0.07 vs z=0.006) has led to conflicting interpretations of the redshift and whether it can be used as an indicator of distance or not.

For an image based on 30 minutes total exposure, I kindly direct you to http://www.perseus.gr/Astro-DSO-QSO-Mrk205.htm .

Clear skies!

Anthony.