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Re: 900GTO power plug

Salyer <salyer@...>
 

Thanks. I'll have the current version, but it's very unlikely the
power connector has been changed. I'll get a couple of these connectors.

Greg

At 04:28 PM 4/4/2007, you wrote:

It's a Switchcraft S760K I.D. 2.1mm O.D. 5.5mm
on the 2003 model 900GTO with a GTOCP2 controller.

William

--- In <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>ap-gto@yahoogroups.com,
"gjsalyer" <salyer@...> wrote:

Does anyone know the type of power plug used on the 900GTO control
panel? I have one on order and I'd like to fix up a 12v supply for it
(rather than use the included cigarette lighter plug), but I don't see
enough information in the manual I downloaded. I assume its a standard
power connector but I can't tell if it needs a male or female plug or
what the ID/OD sizes are. Thanks.

Greg


Re: 900GTO power plug

William Rison <werison@...>
 

It's a Switchcraft S760K I.D. 2.1mm O.D. 5.5mm
on the 2003 model 900GTO with a GTOCP2 controller.

William

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "gjsalyer" <salyer@...> wrote:

Does anyone know the type of power plug used on the 900GTO control
panel? I have one on order and I'd like to fix up a 12v supply for it
(rather than use the included cigarette lighter plug), but I don't see
enough information in the manual I downloaded. I assume its a standard
power connector but I can't tell if it needs a male or female plug or
what the ID/OD sizes are. Thanks.

Greg


Re: Is there any talk of a CP4GTO controller any time soon?

John Winfield
 

I know you can't do direct-to-memory uploads on the CP2, but what's to
stop you replaying an averaged PEC through the autoguider inputs?

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@...> wrote:

Sorry I meant to say that on the CP2 you can only do one PEC run
via the handcontroller and not upload averaged ones.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@>
wrote:

Hi John, that capability is only available on the CP3. You can do
one PEC run via the hand controller but you can't upload
any averaged PEC runs.

Regards,
Brian C.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "John Winfield" <winfij@> wrote:

Hi Brian,

Can't you do the PEC averaging in software using a tool like
PemPro
and then replay the averaged data to the mount?

I'm a new AP900-CP2 owner and haven't got round to training the
PEC
yet, but that was my plan.

I'd be interested to hear if my thoughts are correct from one of
the
old-hands?

John


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@>
wrote:

Hello all. Ive got the CP2 on my AP900 and I do want to upgrade
it
to the CP3 to get the PEC averaging but if there is a CP4
coming
I would sure like to wait.

Regards,
Brian C.


Re: Is there any talk of a CP4GTO controller any time soon?

brian_clever <brian_clever@...>
 

Sorry I meant to say that on the CP2 you can only do one PEC run
via the handcontroller and not upload averaged ones.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@...>
wrote:

Hi John, that capability is only available on the CP3. You can do
one PEC run via the hand controller but you can't upload
any averaged PEC runs.

Regards,
Brian C.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "John Winfield" <winfij@> wrote:

Hi Brian,

Can't you do the PEC averaging in software using a tool like
PemPro
and then replay the averaged data to the mount?

I'm a new AP900-CP2 owner and haven't got round to training the
PEC
yet, but that was my plan.

I'd be interested to hear if my thoughts are correct from one of
the
old-hands?

John


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@>
wrote:

Hello all. Ive got the CP2 on my AP900 and I do want to upgrade
it
to the CP3 to get the PEC averaging but if there is a CP4
coming
I would sure like to wait.

Regards,
Brian C.


Re: Is there any talk of a CP4GTO controller any time soon?

brian_clever <brian_clever@...>
 

Hi John, that capability is only available on the CP3. You can do
one PEC run via the hand controller but you can't upload
any averaged PEC runs.

Regards,
Brian C.

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "John Winfield" <winfij@...> wrote:

Hi Brian,

Can't you do the PEC averaging in software using a tool like PemPro
and then replay the averaged data to the mount?

I'm a new AP900-CP2 owner and haven't got round to training the PEC
yet, but that was my plan.

I'd be interested to hear if my thoughts are correct from one of the
old-hands?

John


--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@> wrote:

Hello all. Ive got the CP2 on my AP900 and I do want to upgrade it
to the CP3 to get the PEC averaging but if there is a CP4 coming
I would sure like to wait.

Regards,
Brian C.


Re: Is there any talk of a CP4GTO controller any time soon?

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 4/4/2007 5:14:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
brian_clever@yahoo.com writes:


Hi Paul, thanks for your response. Could you explain
(including stuff like plug this cable here that cable there)
how you get the PEC data from the mount
into PEMPRO and back into the mount? My experience with PEC
training is limited to what I did for my CGE so pretend you are
speaking with an absolute beginner :)
The PEM data is first gathered in the normal way by guiding (or autoguiding)
the mount with a CCD camera. The data is gathered by PEMPro. You then simply
smooth the data in the program routines and download it into the CP1,2 or 3
controllers via a serial cable attached between your computenator and the CP1,2
or 3 controller. Once you have loaded it into the controller, you can activate
it via PEMPro or via the keypad by selecting the PEM "Play" function.

Rolando


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Re: Is there any talk of a CP4GTO controller any time soon?

John Winfield
 

Hi Brian,

Can't you do the PEC averaging in software using a tool like PemPro
and then replay the averaged data to the mount?

I'm a new AP900-CP2 owner and haven't got round to training the PEC
yet, but that was my plan.

I'd be interested to hear if my thoughts are correct from one of the
old-hands?

John

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@...> wrote:

Hello all. Ive got the CP2 on my AP900 and I do want to upgrade it
to the CP3 to get the PEC averaging but if there is a CP4 coming
I would sure like to wait.

Regards,
Brian C.


900GTO power plug

gjsalyer <salyer@...>
 

Does anyone know the type of power plug used on the 900GTO control
panel? I have one on order and I'd like to fix up a 12v supply for it
(rather than use the included cigarette lighter plug), but I don't see
enough information in the manual I downloaded. I assume its a standard
power connector but I can't tell if it needs a male or female plug or
what the ID/OD sizes are. Thanks.

Greg


Is there any talk of a CP4GTO controller any time soon?

brian_clever <brian_clever@...>
 

Hello all. Ive got the CP2 on my AP900 and I do want to upgrade it
to the CP3 to get the PEC averaging but if there is a CP4 coming
I would sure like to wait.

Regards,
Brian C.


Re: 900s now "caught up"?

Jeff Young <jey@...>
 

Marj --

Oh gosh no, I can't imagine what my wife would say if I suggested a 900
to go in between my 600 and 1200. (Well, actually I can.)

It's just good to see them (more or less) available....

Cheers,
-- Jeff.



________________________________

From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Marj
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:24 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 900s now "caught up"?



Jeff,

We haven't quite reached off-the-shelf status. We are assembling
our last group of 900GTO mounts in the current production run and had
gotten close to the end of our notification list. So, we decided to send
e-mails to all of the people that were still on the list (as of late
yesterday afternoon, except those people who had declined earlier in the
run, but put themselves back on the list) telling them that we have some
900s available for shipment this month. We are only accepting orders
from people that we have contacted.

If we have any mounts remaining, we will look back at the
notification list that has accumulated since yesterday and also people
that declined earlier in the run, but put themselves back on the list.
So, if you want to sign up with the possibility of getting a mount,
please do so. The next production run will not be finished until 2008.
In the meantime, we will continue our notification list.
http://www.astro-physics.com/availability/availability.htm#8
<http://www.astro-physics.com/availability/availability.htm#8>

Thanks for your interest!

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com> ]On
Behalf Of Jeff Young
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:34 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com <mailto:ap-gto%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ap-gto] 900s now "caught up"?

Wow, are the rumors true? Is the 900GTO now caught up, and an
off-the-
shelf item?

If so, let me be the first to congratulate you all at AP!

-- Jeff.


Re: 900s now "caught up"?

Joe Zeglinski
 

But ... did it say "within two years"? I thought they meant possibly
another run, late this year.
It also depends, if you are buying just a mount , or a scope WITH a mount.
Probably smarter to place separate orders, and take separate deliveries, when
one item is ready. At least you might be able to enjoy the new scope, on an
old mount - sooner. Or, you might eventually, unfortunately have to settle for
a different mount.

Joe

----- Original Message -----
From: "Salyer" <salyer@optonline.net>
To: <ap-gto@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] 900s now "caught up"?


Looks like it. I was on the notification list for less than 2 weeks
before I got notified. Don't know if it will last long since the
notification email said that there wouldn't be another production run
till 2008. I understand the situation is the same for the 1200.

Greg


At 03:34 PM 4/3/2007, you wrote:

Wow, are the rumors true? Is the 900GTO now caught up, and an off-the-
shelf item?

If so, let me be the first to congratulate you all at AP!

-- Jeff.


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Re: 900s now "caught up"?

 

Jeff,

We haven't quite reached off-the-shelf status. We are assembling our last group of 900GTO mounts in the current production run and had gotten close to the end of our notification list. So, we decided to send e-mails to all of the people that were still on the list (as of late yesterday afternoon, except those people who had declined earlier in the run, but put themselves back on the list) telling them that we have some 900s available for shipment this month. We are only accepting orders from people that we have contacted.

If we have any mounts remaining, we will look back at the notification list that has accumulated since yesterday and also people that declined earlier in the run, but put themselves back on the list. So, if you want to sign up with the possibility of getting a mount, please do so. The next production run will not be finished until 2008. In the meantime, we will continue our notification list.
http://www.astro-physics.com/availability/availability.htm#8

Thanks for your interest!

Marj Christen
Astro-Physics, Inc
11250 Forest Hills Road
Machesney Park, IL 61115
Phone: 815-282-1513
Fax: 815-282-9847
www.astro-physics.com
Please include this e-mail with your response.

-----Original Message-----
From: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ap-gto@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jeff Young
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:34 PM
To: ap-gto@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ap-gto] 900s now "caught up"?



Wow, are the rumors true? Is the 900GTO now caught up, and an off-the-
shelf item?

If so, let me be the first to congratulate you all at AP!

-- Jeff.


Re: 900s now "caught up"?

Salyer <salyer@...>
 

Looks like it. I was on the notification list for less than 2 weeks before I got notified. Don't know if it will last long since the notification email said that there wouldn't be another production run till 2008. I understand the situation is the same for the 1200.

Greg

At 03:34 PM 4/3/2007, you wrote:

Wow, are the rumors true? Is the 900GTO now caught up, and an off-the-
shelf item?

If so, let me be the first to congratulate you all at AP!

-- Jeff.


900s now "caught up"?

Jeff Young <jey@...>
 

Wow, are the rumors true? Is the 900GTO now caught up, and an off-the-
shelf item?

If so, let me be the first to congratulate you all at AP!

-- Jeff.


Re: Follow Up on Attaching TOA 150 to AP900

flyrcairplanes
 

Thanks for that. I decided to go with a losmandy setup similar to
what you described. I have had great luck with Parallax and it was
less expensive so I am hoping this will work. I don't have the
Casady dovetail saddle but will be using my AP dovelm2. It is only
8.5" long and I honestly don't know if going to a 12" saddle would be
a better choice. Any thoughts about that? Noone chimed in when I
first posted to say I was crazy mounting a TOA 150 and TV 102 on a
AP900 so I am hopeful the mount can handle it.

Jeff
--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "brian_clever" <brian_clever@...>
wrote:

I wasn't going to chime in but then I saw the price of the Tak
tube holder :(

Another alternative, and I think slightly cheaper is

Robin Casady's dovetail saddle (bolted directly to mount head):

http://www.robincasady.com/Astro/dovetail.html

Then Losmandy Dovetail Plate Universal:

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product.asp?pid=483

Then Parallax Rings (special order for TOA 150 bolted to dovetail):

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product.asp?t=&pid=4547&m=

That takes care of the scope, now to mount the guide scope:

Another dovetail (shorter) (This bolts on to the top of the other
rings)

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product.asp?t=&pid=4412&m=

Then another set of Parallax rings for the guide scope.

Hope this helps. This is the setup I have for my FSQ on my AP900.

Regards,
Brian C.

-
-- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "flyrcairplanes" <jeffabbyben@> wrote:

Hello,
I own an new AP900 and am looking to add a TOA 150. Previous
post
were
talking about how to attach these two components and I was hoping
someone might offer some follow-up on how the system is working.
I
do
almost exclusively imaging so I really want a stable system. I
would
need to have a TV 102 guidescope on top. Am I pushing the mount
to
far?

Jeff


Progressive Polar Calibration confirmation and question?

Wiggins, Rick
 

Hi Roland and crew,
I would like to confirm a sequential method of achieving better
polar alignment. Below is what I believe to be progressive levels of
better polar alignment based on the v4.12 Keypad Manual. I have two
questions regarding this list; A) Assuming 3 or more iterations,
will the two keypad routines below (N.Polar Align & Two Star Cal.)
give me a better Polar alignment than the Polar Scope? and B) Is the
progressive order listed below correct and if not what should it be?
I am also assuming that my setup is relatively orthogonal. I have an
AP155 with AP rings and large dovetail plate mounted on the AP 1200
with the largest dovetail saddle.

1. Polar Scope alignment
2. North Polar Calibrate
3. Two Star Calibration
4. GTO Quick Star Drift Method of Polar Alignment (Using Meridian
Delay Feature)
5. CCDOps Drift Align
6. T-Point

Many thanks for the input!
Rick


Re: Follow Up on Attaching TOA 150 to AP900

brian_clever <brian_clever@...>
 

I wasn't going to chime in but then I saw the price of the Tak
tube holder :(

Another alternative, and I think slightly cheaper is

Robin Casady's dovetail saddle (bolted directly to mount head):

http://www.robincasady.com/Astro/dovetail.html

Then Losmandy Dovetail Plate Universal:

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product.asp?pid=483

Then Parallax Rings (special order for TOA 150 bolted to dovetail):

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product.asp?t=&pid=4547&m=

That takes care of the scope, now to mount the guide scope:

Another dovetail (shorter) (This bolts on to the top of the other
rings)

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product.asp?t=&pid=4412&m=

Then another set of Parallax rings for the guide scope.

Hope this helps. This is the setup I have for my FSQ on my AP900.

Regards,
Brian C.

-
-- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "flyrcairplanes" <jeffabbyben@...> wrote:

Hello,
I own an new AP900 and am looking to add a TOA 150. Previous post
were
talking about how to attach these two components and I was hoping
someone might offer some follow-up on how the system is working. I
do
almost exclusively imaging so I really want a stable system. I
would
need to have a TV 102 guidescope on top. Am I pushing the mount to
far?

Jeff


Re: Progressive Polar Calibration confirmation and question?

Roland Christen
 

In a message dated 4/3/2007 11:48:19 AM Central Daylight Time,
rickwiggins@earthlink.net writes:


Hi Roland and crew,
I would like to confirm a sequential method of achieving better
polar alignment. Below is what I believe to be progressive levels of
better polar alignment based on the v4.12 Keypad Manual. I have two
questions regarding this list; A) Assuming 3 or more iterations,
will the two keypad routines below (N.Polar Align & Two Star Cal.)
give me a better Polar alignment than the Polar Scope? and B) Is the
progressive order listed below correct and if not what should it be?
I am also assuming that my setup is relatively orthogonal. I have an
AP155 with AP rings and large dovetail plate mounted on the AP 1200
with the largest dovetail saddle.

1. Polar Scope alignment
2. North Polar Calibrate
3. Two Star Calibration
4. GTO Quick Star Drift Method of Polar Alignment (Using Meridian
Delay Feature)
5. CCDOps Drift Align
6. T-Point

Many thanks for the input!
Rick

You can do any ol' thing that works. The keypad is full of great tools. If
the above sequence works fine for you, then there is nothing further I can add.

Here's what I do when setting up the scope at a remote site:

1. I place the mount and scope in Park1 position using a simple carpenter
level.
2. I start the keypad in Autostart NO and press Resume from Park1
3. I then slew to Park2 and level the tube manually using the carpenter's
level.
4. I slew back to Park1 and level the tube using the altitude adjustment.
This completes the initial setup of the altitude axis.
5. I slew to a known star (or the sun or bright planet) and adjust the
azimuth to bring it near the center of the finder crosshairs.
This completes the initial setup of the azimuth axis. Both of these
adjustments can be done in the daytime, which allows me to find bright stars in the
telescope at low power for further polar refinement before the sun has set.

When these adjustments are finished, I refine the altitude axis by using a
star near the meridian line and using the meridian delay to pick it up on either
side of the mount. This gets the altitude axis quite close to final position,
and takes less than 5 minutes. When that is done, I do a drift align using my
CCD camera. That can take anywhere from 15 - 25 minutes, depending how fussy
I want to be.

Rolando



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Re: Connecting the mount to the computer

Wiggins, Rick
 

Hi Gary,
Serial cables are easy to find and cheap. Contact me for references.
Here is one link.
http://www.sfcable.com/cable/c/db9.html?
gclid=CNCK09jupIsCFQtpGAodlhBqkA
Thanks, Rick

--- In ap-gto@yahoogroups.com, "gary schones" <gary378@...> wrote:

With serial cables getting harder to find can a serial 232 to usb
adpter be used to connect to the sky.
Gary


Re: maintenance of ap 900 gto cp3

lupodima <lupo.di.mare@...>
 

Thanks Rolando

After removed the 2 gear x boxgear,as you described in a old past message
,i cleaned all the old grease with a toothbrush and some degrease
liquid then i put the new lythium grease but i put a little bit more
...will cause problem that?
About the white gear your is a good news the ood sound was caused from
the old grease who was consumed
Now the odd sound is gone and when the observatory will be ready i
will test it in load configuration whit all the OTAs and
counterweights...but im sure it will be all ok.

P.S.
Yesterday i have sent another email to Astrophysic support to Mr
Howard about the extration plug and the new set of clutch plugs
ordered in past January
sure was a misunderstanding but from January i havent get the ok from
Mr Howard for pay the extraction tools and the clutch plugs for my AP
900 gto cp3
Thanks for Your precius attention Rolando
Best regards
Giorgio