Re: AP1100 Notification Suggestions

Christopher Erickson

And I expect that both the 1100 and Mach2 are both machined within microns of perfection with no compromises. 

That's just how AP does things.

Do it once, do it right. Don't have to do it over.

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021, 10:02 AM Christopher Erickson via <> wrote:

My G11 plus Gemini-II sits in a corner of my living room, holding up my first serious telescope from 50 years ago. A 10" f3.8 Newt. I won't admit how long it has been since it last gathered starlight.

If you never plan to exploit the bigger load capacity of the 1100 and you are a portable imager, then you might benefit from the lighter Mach2. Especially as we get older.

-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Waikoloa, HI 96738

On Fri, Mar 5, 2021, 9:45 AM Mark Lamb <lamb_mark@...> wrote:
Thanks for the responses so far!

I think I will end up going for the AP1100 instead of waiting (how long??? Daleen said at least 2 more runs) for the Mach2, even though the AP1100's capacity is overkill.  (I have zero appetite for mounting/dismounting an unwieldy 70#+ load, as this will be uncovered on my back patio.)  I also expect the AP1100 is machined to tighter tolerances vs. the Mach2, as it designed to perform at a high level without the need of encoders.  My mind has an analogy of the sound of simpler Class-A audio amplifiers compared to much more complicated Class-AB with extensive feedback.  The feedback intensive Class-AB have much better specs, but the Class-A amplifiers sound MUCH better and realistic (I have actually built my own Class-A preamp and power-amps, and they sound very realistic).  The downside is the Class-A amplifier requires MUCH higher quality components, better power supplies, and more heat sinking.

My concern with reliability of the encoders is more with the read heads and not the encoder rings, as I expect the failure rate of the read heads would be an order of magnitude higher than the rings due to their electronic nature.  It also seems that the read heads are much more expensive than the rings.

I still do not have a good feel for the practical/realisable/tangible performance improvement to be expected w/ the AE version compared to the base AP1100.  I have read reports than base AP1100s guide as good as seeing allows, though I expect this assertion should be conditioned on the actual seeing conditions.  My seeing is better than most, w/ 1.5" typical and 0.7" on the rare good nights (Meteoblue est. for my location).  With my good seeing location, I expect that can actually realize resolution improvement down to ~0.4"/px, a level that I expect to image at for galaxies (EdgeHD925 & QHY268M).   At 0.4"/px scale and assuming guiding w/ and OAG, would the AE add a meaningful improvement?  Or is AE "gilding the lily"?

Daleen called me while I was in the middle of composing this reply, and I had her put me down for a new AP1100, as I do not want to wait 2 years for a Mach2.  She told me to expect September delivery.  I need to talk to George about deciding whether to go for encoders or not. 

I plan on keeping my G11, to allow running 2 imaging rigs to make the most of the precious clear skies.  I will put the G11 on my LW tripod, and put the AP1100 on my FHD tripod beast.  I need George to explain whether I need attach the AP1100 to my FHD; do I need both the 119FSA and 119FP?  Does the combo 119FSA-FP work for the FHD and does it drop into the FHD's normal MA collar?

I know the encoders eliminate DEC backlash.  But, is DEC backlash a practical problem for the base AP1100?  DEC backlash does give me problems with my G11 from time to time, and is my main frustration with my G11.
I know the encoders will reduce RA PE to ~0.25".  What is typical PEC adjusted PE for the base AP1100?  At what image scales does this give problems?

I think I will go for the DOVEDV10 saddle, as I feel the wider clamp spacing of the DOVELM162 could give problems with my Esprit's after-market 7" dovetail plate; I want at least 2 clamps engaged.  With my G11's 8" saddle, the end of my Esprit's 7" plate extends ~0.5" past the front edge.  With the DOVEDV10 extra 1" on both sides of center, it should clamp in both the middle and end.  Does this make sense?

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