Re: Precise polar alignment of the azimuth axis
Cheng-Yang Tan
I agree that there's always flexure. I have moved to OAG for imaging and that's saved a lot of flexure headaches. As usual YMMV cytan
On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 07:17:11 PM CST, Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote:
> Do the PA routine in SC as usual with the scope starting at Park 3. Adjust Alt and Az to get your PA to good or > excellent. At this point, your scope should be about 90 deg from Park 3. Then in SC hit the restart button. This > time, let SC plate solve with the scope at 90 deg from Park 3. Then once SC is done, send the scope back to Park > 3. And without touching Alt or Az, note what what SC reports. It should still be good or excellent to show that > flexure is not a problem. Because of gravity, there is always flexure. It's just a matter of how much. The bigger the instrument the more flexure there will be. "Piggy-backed" guide scopes, even if they are light, can be subject to flexure exerted on the rings by the primary scope. -Ray Gralak Author of PEMPro Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > -----Original Message----- > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cheng-Yang Tan via groups.io > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 4:11 PM > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Precise polar alignment of the azimuth axis > > Actually there is a way to see whether your guide scope is flexing w.r.t. the mount with SharpCap (SC): > > Do the PA routine in SC as usual with the scope starting at Park 3. Adjust Alt and Az to get your PA to good or > excellent. At this point, your scope should be about 90 deg from Park 3. Then in SC hit the restart button. This > time, let SC plate solve with the scope at 90 deg from Park 3. Then once SC is done, send the scope back to Park > 3. And without touching Alt or Az, note what what SC reports. It should still be good or excellent to show that > flexure is not a problem. > > The above routine is described in SC doc: > > Polar Alignment Troubleshooting – SharpCap – Lunar, Planetary, Solar and Deep Sky Imaging. EAA and Live > Stacking. <https://www.sharpcap.co.uk/sharpcap/features/polar-alignment/polar-alignment-troubleshooting> > > > <https://www.sharpcap.co.uk/sharpcap/features/polar-alignment/polar-alignment-troubleshooting> > > Polar Alignment Troubleshooting – SharpCap – Lunar, Planetary, Solar and... > > > > > > I use it all the time to make sure that nothing has moved during PA. > > IMO, using the guide scope gives a more accurate PA because of its finer image scale. In my workflow, I do a > rough PA with PoleMaster (PM) and the PM scope and then use SC with the guide scope for the final PA. > > Also SC tells you what your PA error is while PM just asks you to eye ball the alignment between the dot in the > square and the circle. I think having a PA error allows you to know how precise your PA is. > > cytan > > P.S. I've never had any success with drift align with PHD2. I think I'm just not patient enough to wait for drift to get > the error to a steady value. > > > > On Tuesday, December 29, 2020, 04:27:13 PM CST, Ray Gralak <groups3@...> wrote: > > > > Try the Sharpcap polar align app using the Polemaster camera. > > That works for me and allows setups using Sharpcap without a guide camera. > > Using the Polemaster camera is the best way to do it. > > If a guide camera is used and the entire scope is rotated, there is going to be flexure somewhere, which can affect > the calculated polar alignment position. > > There is only so much accuracy you are going to get with this method with a guide scope. > > -Ray Gralak > Author of PEMPro > Author of APCC (Astro-Physics Command Center): https://www.astro-physics.com/apcc-pro > Author of Astro-Physics V2 ASCOM Driver: https://www.siriusimaging.com/apdriver > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: main@ap-gto.groups.io [mailto:main@ap-gto.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg McCall > > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2020 1:53 PM > > To: main@ap-gto.groups.io > > Subject: Re: [ap-gto] Precise polar alignment of the azimuth axis > > > > Hi, > > Re Sharpcap and Polesmaster. > > Try the Sharpcap polar align app using the Polemaster camera. > > That works for me and allows setups using Sharpcap without a guide camera. > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > >
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