Re: CCDWare site Trojan?
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Joe Zeglinski
Hi Pete,
I agree, DEFENDER is generally a good AV program -
even though I sounded like MS Defender bashing.
I have never used any other antivirus program regularly
over the past decades, except Defender or its earlier pre-Microsoft ownership
versions – and don’t plan that I ever will. DEFENDER is/was just a
plain good workhorse of an AV program, and I am glad to have it on all
PC’s.
I just get rattled and lose confidence in it now,
when I get a “LOW level” warning from its recent Build 2004 Win-10 major
rewrite, warning that (even) CCLEAN is one of its suggested PUP’s.
Just because a program like PIRIFORM’s ...
CAN modify the Registry,
shouldn’t automatically make it a PUP threat, until Microsoft has some strong
evidence. Otherwise, we would be chasing many more innocent apps on the
PC. Besides, what should I believe about Defender’s other suggested PUP’s
?
Very many people has been using CCLEAN, (for
example), with confidence, for at least a decade, and most people
trust it, as perhaps the industry’s best clean-up utility. It is a necessary
tool because every Microsoft Update leaves piles of Temp Work files cluttering
up the disk drive, and misdirected & lost Registry links behind, after
performing its frequent Windows updates. Wish Microsoft would clean up
after itself, so the app wouldn’t be needed as much. But, that’s not the
point.
Calling that app a PUP, now makes me highly suspicious
of anything else that Win-10 PRO’s version of Defender considers a PUP.
Seems a bit trigger-happy.
So, contrary to tech advice, I like to back up Defender
with a second opinion by Malwarebytes, another well-respected antivirus
program, but one which never accused CCLEAN of being malware. I think MB
does its due diligence and homework better.
Which is why I suspected that Defender may have
needlessly caused that PUP warning at CCDWARE, that Malwarebytes may
not have.
Joe
From: Pete
Mumbower
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:45 PM
To: main@ap-gto.groups.io
Subject: Re: [ap-gto] CCDWare site Trojan? Actually
Windows Defender has changed significantly in the last couple of years, recent
builds have not changed a ton, at least on the consumer side. The enterprise
side (Advanced Threat Protection) has had some "significant" changes, but
nothing that would effect what this thread is about. It is pretty sophisticated
and one of the leading AV products on the market now. I talked to quite a few
other It professionals at other companies at the big Microsoft conference
(Ignite) last summer and they agree that it is made some major strides in how
well it works compared to others. I do agree and highly recommend only running one AV product on a computer. The threat landscape has change a lot in the last decade and the modern techniques are needed to detect and stop the bad actors out there. Whatever AV product you use, make sure the virus definitions are up date (daily or even hourly) if you do a lot of online browsing with the computer. Pete |
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