Re: 400 GTO First report

Ron Wodaski <ronw@...>

The 1200 is also just plain better for polar aligning than the 600 GTO
mount. There isn't much flexure in the 1200, while the 600 has enough to
cause some trouble during polar alignment. I suppose the flexure will depend
on the weight you've got on the mount. And I can't say that I've tested
orthogonality, though my refractor was best for polar aligning; the 9.25"
SCT was hopeless. <g>

Ron Wodaski

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:00 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 400 GTO First report

Hi Ron,

Usually the 1/2 way won't work well if the mount is not very level.
In that case, you will get one axis affecting the other. Otherwise it
has always worked quite well for me (30+ times with my 1200). Of course
the OTA has to be close to orthogonal too.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Wodaski [mailto:ronw@...]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:49 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 400 GTO First report

It's not always the case that half-way will work for you, and I wondered
why. I have a theory, of course <g>.

The basis of my theory is this (untested) assumption, but I think it's
because the two coordinate systems (alt-az and equatorial) are oriented so
differently, making a change to a single axis (alt or az) can affect
position in the other coordinate system along two axes (RA and Dec).

For example, if one axis (alt or az) is very close to correct, and the
is not, you should avoid making changes to the one that is close to
and concentrate on getting the other one close to correct, too. I haven't
had to do this kind of polar alignment for several months, so my
isn't fresh. I'm currently using a polar scope on an NJP 160, although I
have a 400 GTO coming and will have to re-learn these skills.

But as I recall, if one axis was close, and I made adjustments to two axes
(alt and az), the axis that was close to correct would oscillate
(overshoot). I would then move that axis to the mid position (between the
extremes of the oscillation), and then leave it alone and concentrate on
bringing the other axis close to correct position. Once both were of
equal magnitude, I could then quickly get a good alignment by adjusting

I have even had situations where I have had to go _double_ the distance,
rather than half the distance, to get aligned in a reasonable number of
iterations. If memory serves, that tended to be the case when I was
to stars on different sides of the meridian, but it has been a while and
not entirely sure.

Ron Wodaski

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Gralak [mailto:ray@...]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:27 AM
To: ap-gto@...
Subject: RE: [ap-gto] 400 GTO First report

I figured six times meant I might have the dreaded 'orthogonalilty'
Now how in @^#$ am I suppose to shim this scope when it's mounted. Man
looks like a non-newmoon night task. I am not gonna try that in the
Hi Jeff,

To cut down on the iterations when polar aligning your scope
for each iteration you should only adjust the altitude and azimuth
adjustments to move Polaris half-way to the center of your finder (or
eyepiece when you get sufficiently close). If you put Polaris in
the center each time you will overshoot the correction and it will
take more iterations.

-Ray Gralak

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