Re: Recommendations? Outdoor range extender?


Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...>
 

All - sense we've beaten this to death but just in case it is interesting, I did a NEW experiment wherein I unplugged the second range extender I have that helps reach the front upper floors of our house. The observatory range extender, the Netgear 1200 immediately started communicating (or in one test I had to reboot the router for everyone to connect). So I'm thinking the problem is conflict between my two range extenders (different brands). Man this is annoying. Anyway, that is all I have as an update.

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:35 PM, Stuart Heggie <stuart.j.heggie@...> wrote:
Ron, even more help - thanks! Yes, the 1200 is temperamental and it seems to really not like our southern Ontario weather anymore. 

I think this one you're suggesting would be the ticket. It has the minimum 4-ports on the back I need.

BTW - I learned a weird / obvious lesson years ago when I built my first observatory. I put the router in the window of the house to have line of sight to the shed. NO connection. I went to a local store (sort of like Best Buy) and talked to an experienced guy. I told him the scenario. He just stared at me for a second and said "How new are these windows?" and I said "Brand new" and he said "There's your problem. You are trying to punch through a metalized film in the window that provides the heat trapping feature. Put the device on the floor - it will go through wood without seeing it." I did this and voila - instant connect!

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

that's what I was using the netgear 1200 extender.  It still works, but is temperamental. 
My cable internet router is a netgear and has a very good range.  The 1200 extender as you know
creates a 2nd network. Seperate from the primary.  Sometimes my devices would connect to the router
in the house and not the extender and sometimes the other way around.

This mesh unit doesn't great another network and just extends the same.  So devices can connect
to the home router or the mesh extender.  I have IP cameras in the house that I typically would expect
to connect to the home router. But sometimes they connect to the mesh unit 300 feet away instead. = )

the 300 feet away is clear air...  IP cameras connect through the windows.  The router in the house would
require the IP cameras to run the signal through walls.  So they seem to prefer the mesh unit 300 ft away
and no wall. = )

My Nuc, my Mach1 my IP camera and my wifi ACPOWER switch all connect to the home network through
the mesh unit.   It was also very easy setup    AND HAS LIKE 4-5 LAN connections too!  

I've used it now about 4 months.  So far very pleased. It's also been winter in michigan, so it's been out in extreme
cold. 

hope this helps.


On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Ron, thanks for this! My Netgear 1200 (I think) is fading fast. QUITE annoying. 

Stuart

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Ron Kramer ronkramer1957@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

my dome is 300ft out front of the house. I had some off and on issues with a netgear extender.  I recently saw they had a MESH extender that will work with any router. I install it in the dome and so far not a hiccup.  I had been considering a 2 unit mesh setup which ran around 300+.   This one appeared as a promo in my email and said it worked with any router so it's only one unit. (one box). Cost - I think was around 180.   nighthawk? mesh?  I don't recall.  Let me check my amazon order listing.

brb...
 


On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:35 PM, Stuart Heggie stuart.j.heggie@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Greg, my pals are dialing in remotely. I want it to be totally hands off for me where possible. Some nights the only clue I have that they're active is when I'm standing on my deck and the dome suddenly starts to open. So one way or another they need to access their computer here, their powerbar and the dome control. And as I said, the power bar and the dome control has to have a physical connection. They're assigned their own IP addresses so I don't think I can connect them to a computer where they ride piggyback.

Stuart

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:14 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:
 

Stuart, not sure what your exactly doing but it sounds complicated. Would multiple headless computers help? I actually use 3 for various remote tasks.

 

Greg

 

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Greg, thanks! This IS a good idea. My challenge alas is that I have my two rigs in one observatory and an underground conduit to a second observatory where two pals of mine have their rigs. They are connecting their IP controlled powerbars to the extender in my observatory. In addition, the Control-by-Web relay that opens/closes the dome needs a hard connection to the internet access point. All this comes into a hub in the dome then the single cable over to my shed. So, I have the one cable entering my shed from the dome they're in, then in my shed I have the same situation ... two IP controlled powerbars and the shed roof control-by-web rely.. All need hard connections to the single access point.

 

When it was just me with the one set-up I was doing something much more like you but now things are "complicated"..

 

Stuart

 

On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:10 PM, 'Greg Salyer' astronutcase@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Stuart, may I suggest something totally different? I mount a headless computer inside a box on my scope's pier along with all the electronics needed. This keeps all the cables very short (especially those nasty USB cables). I then control that computer (which runs all the software taking images and controlling the scope and other hardware) from inside my house through TeamViewer. I've been doing this for 5 or 6 years without any problems both winter and summer. I did have a single ethernet cable running from the box to the house but have found it unnecessary.. Not sure what problem your trying to solve, so this may not help but just in case...

 

Greg

 

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Hi again. Joe's suggestion was a good one. What I may in fact need vs.. what I said is an "industrial" grade range extender.. Mine needs to have at least 4 ethernet ports on it. I am finding that all the ones I search for with the attribute "outdoor" are excellent at what they do but they are in weather-proof housings and only have power input. Mine will be in the shed protected from rain/snow but not cold/damp..

 

Mine needs a physical connection to my Control-by-Web relay for the roof and to my IP controlled powerbars. Alas, these devices are not wireless.

 

Any new thoughts based on this clarification?

 

Stuart

 

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 3:49 PM, 'Joseph Zeglinski' J.Zeglinski@... [ap-gto] <ap-gto@...> wrote:

 

Hi Stuart,

There may be other more modern offers, but I have been quite pleased with my HAWKING model “HOWABN1” wireless N-Type comms, universal Hi Gain Repeater... It has huge “banana thick” perpendicular antenna sticks, and its “Cow Bell” rugged enclosure is suitable for your conditions. This product is meant as a universal repeater between buildings, and outdoor car lots.

Got mine over a decade ago, at Tiger Direct in GTA, before they downsized to the web.
It is limited to N-type 300 mbps comms – but that gives it more range.

Joe Z.

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